MGOBLOG.COM IS STILL PERFECT. Football universe: relieved. Thankfully, life goes on.
by Bellanca on Jan 11, 2011 1:45 PM CST
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PrintMGOBLOG.COM, and that is capitalized for a reason, today announced that it is still perfect.
"Hey, don't you get it yet? We are perfect, you are not, and move on, nothing to see here, and I get better unsourced emails than you do. Do you have your own home, and what is that like, not living in your parents' basement?" said [NAME REDACTED], proprietor of MGOBLOG.COM (and that is capitalized FOR A REASON), author of THIS WEEK IN SCHADENFREUDE (I spelled that without looking it up, btw), who four hours ago predicted that Les Miles would be the next head coach of the (formerly legendary) University of Michigan football club.
"Schadenfreude: that's something that will roll back on you, perhaps," said Lloyd Carr, in an unguarded moment.
"That's all I have time for, my 8086-processor-based server is crashing again because I have 500! simultaneous Wolverinos trying to hit it, and that's just too many people, so, copy that, over and out, this is MGOBLOG.COM (and that is capitalized for a reason) switching freq NOW. (I will take donations for a new server, however, preferably in oily small bills that don't call attention to themselves.)
Reasonable people doubted that a small man with a compromised ethical backbone (HATER! HATER!) and three plays in his playbook (RUN REALLY FAST FAST RUN IF IT HURTS TAKE THIS SHOT) and absolutely zero interest in playing defense could play Big Ten football and advance the greatness that was -- WAS -- the most elegant program in the Big Ten, would turn out to be the real thing. So, how did that turn out? I think he lost his last three games by a cumulative 88 points (EIGHTY-EIGHT), including the unfortunate result of losing to Mississippi State ([struggling, Starkville, Mississippi, that is where?]) (is that like Ottumwa with a soil conservation studies department?) by 38 points to a 38 year-old neophyte coach after one month of practice. In contrast, HATERS pointed out that Iowa hadn't lost a game by more than seven (7) points in three (3) years.
So here we are. No one wants to work at Michigan, where they have 13 wideouts, one tight end/fb, two QBs who want to get out of town, and a defense that makes Oregon look like the Ravens or Jets. Harbaugh: thank you, no. Miles, I wish you hadn't asked. Next?
But HEY, YOU'RE A HATER, and the worst thing that could ever have happened to Michigan would have been to hire Ferentz in December 2007, because RODRIGUEZ, HEY, THREE PLAYS, NO DEFENSE, 20 MISTAKES A GAME, QB's 5'8" TALL, THE FUTURE SHUT UP HATER!!!
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Oh, Jim Harbaugh? Les Miles? Ask Stoops, because he was right a few days ago. Michigan is a less attractive job today than Indiana. Indiana hired Oklahoma's OC. Michigan wishes it still had a shot at him. It would seem Michigan is a less attractive job than Pitt. But MGOBLOG.COM: STILL PERFECT, and if you don't think so, you are a HATER.
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Editorial note: after last night's game, am I truly the only person in the world who finds this 'spread zone read, QBs who can't throw, no one tackles with his chest and both arms' -- am I the only one who finds this stupid? Was last night's new-age game the dumbest national championship game ever? If not, which one was worse?
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Editorial note #2: this author has been banned from mgoblog.com, for asking questions and being obstreperous, so perhaps he has an axe to grind. (OTOH, this is the internet, what's up with the sanctimony?)
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Man, at least in the OSU-OSU MNC someone would hit someone and tackle him like a football player should.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
You know what?
You’re right. And I may be wrong. If Ohio State ever plays Ohio State, there’s a good chance all of the Ohio State fans will get confused and start a giant, highly destructive brawl with one another.
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 11, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Great job, Bellanca.
I’d love to just listen to your comments if you were drunk or otherwise intoxicated.
And obviously, you are again correct about all things Michigan. It almost seems like you were some type of jilted UM fan from 1985 who decided to make digs at his former passion for the next 35 years. And we are all witnesses.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Well I have to confess,
if I wasn’t born in 1986 I probably wouldn’t have thought anything of the number, but if I use his math(s) skills, that would make me….74, give or take a few years. Right??
When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel
Believe it or not...
that wasn’t really a math error. I just figured Bellanca will continue to rag on MGoBlog for at least another 10 years from right now.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 12, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Do you think MGoBlog
will still be around? I have yet to visit that site, but from all indications, it’s like a back alley in Tokyo.
When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel
Excellent point.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 13, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Last nights game was interesting in one way and one way only
it was a twitter offense playing a text.
The whole no huddle, quick snap, up-tempo offense thing is reflective to a certain degree of contemporary culture. Email has become, for young people, even too slow. Text, twitter…last night was two coaches (Kelly and Malzahn) who are trying to be immediate. Fuck the huddle, just go, details to be dealt with later.
The game that was labelled by some as “An Insight Into The Future of College Football” obscured the future of college football. I don’t know how Alabama lost to Auburn or how Stanford lost to Oregon. It happens I guess. The stars align and you over-analyze and blah, blah, blah.
One thing is for sure, I don’t think either of those teams beat Stanford or Alabama last night. Give those two teams 26 days to prepare and they would have throttled those two jokers.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
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“Give either of those two teams 36 days to prepare and they would have throttled those two jokers.”
and by “those teams” I mean Stanford or Alabama.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I think that was part of it, definitely.
Those teams are difficult to prepare for in a week, but with over a month? Not as much.
A Stanford/Bama game this year would have been dynamite. Shame Bama had to screw up so much in the regular season, because even my playoff-sympathetic heart can’t find a decent reason to let a 3-loss team into a hypothetical playoff.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Bama suffered less, but similar breakdowns to us
O-line play not as dynamic and QB drop off, even though stats suggest otherwise. Defense couldn’t get off field against some teams for some reason too.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I am defiantly not a 'ZOMG SPREAD' guy.
However, the spread in both Auburn & Oregon’s cases are a ‘single-wing’ style offense (whether or not there is a wing, I actually think that SW would be a better term than ‘spread’ to describe them, but I digress).
With the single-wing or Run First Spread, runs have the opportunity to both run with more Power (in this case ‘power’ meaning ‘multiple blockers a the point of attack’) and with more misdirection. They can have both more power and more misdirection simply because it takes longer for the runner to make it to the LOS. Defenders against this style need to be able to flow, and defend horizontally.
Under center offenses advantage is that the runner can hit the hole so quickly, that unless the DL & LB attack the hole quickly, vertically and aggressively, the Offense is virtually guaranteed an acceptable gain (granted the advent of zone blocking somewhat ruins my overly simplistic narrative).
The athletes and skill sets to defend the two different styles are fairly different.
If a D attacks a Run First Spread as they would an under center team- Sell out to get a hard 1st step, & get in the gap vertically- Then the Run First Spread team can either overwhelm them with numbers at the POA, or simply run around them.
Conversely, if a D attacks an under center team, as they would defend a Run First Spread team-Flow with the line, & defend horizontally-Then…..well an ass-whipping will ensue.
I think both Auburn and Oregon have Ds that are more fitted to defend against teams with similar offenses as they do.
That being said…..neither of those teams were the best in the nation.
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Jan 11, 2011 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
it's not the spread I am really zoning in on
because as you say, nothing so new there. It is the complete commitment to no-huddle, fast-break, buzzing bee personnel in an effort to just GO FAST, even if it means your QB is off balance on throws or your linemen are all blocking the same guy, etc. because speed glosses over traditional mistakes—is the thinking I assume.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
It seems like a good idea for an underdog team
I am sure you know of it, but Smartfootball has a number of articles about increasing variance to improve the odds of an underdog winning.
Strange two of these teams met in the MNC game.
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Jan 11, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, I read those Smartfootball articles, and they were interesting
but is Auburn an underdog? Is Michigan? I think Auburn is a hybrid too, no-huddle but power running. I mean, a QB that is 255 lbs, is not a buzzing bee, even in today’s game. That’s Otto Graham, with no offense to Otto Graham.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
No, neither team is an underdog
but their coaches come from underdog programs, and simply bring that system with them. It’s the same reason that these systems will, at some point, fade out. The coaches at the bigger programs will go back to slightly more traditional sets because they don’t need trickery and tomfoolery to win, because they have the talent. However, if these systems do stay at those schools, I think there will be some blowback from upper-echelon recruits, because they don’t put people in the pros. They might get you noticed, but they don’t make you a better football player.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Actually
SmartFootball ran an article a year or two ago evaluating whether the Spread had reached its apogee. Chris’ answer was a qualified “YES”. Chris provided some historical context for the development of the spread offense. At its genesis, the “spread” was an innovation at also-ran schools (Hal Mumme’s Kentucky being at the forefront) looking for ways to neutralize the talent disparity they had versus the big boys. If you’re a lesser program, you can’t possibly hope to compete man vs. man up and down the lineup with a Florida/OSU/Texas/USC, you simply don’t have the personnel to do so. But you probably have 1-2 very good to elite players, the spread, in all its myriad forms, was designed to get the ball to a playmaker in space. That’s it. Now, over time, the offense has continued to evolve, and it was adopted by coaches who have taken from smaller schools (Bowling Green/Utah) to the traditional powers. And it’s worked there for the same reasons: it gets the ball into the hands of your best playmakers, hopefully with some open field around them and allows them to make plays. At a Kentucky, this meant some decent yardage, at a Florida with Percy Harvin, or Auburn with Cam Newton, this has meant offensive explosion.
Chris’ conclusion was that the spread had reached it’s pinnacle, simply because with the number of “elite” teams running one form or another, it no longer provided smaller/lesser schools with a competitive advantage. But, since college football (like life) is never static and unchanging, some “new” offensive scheme would/will take hold in a smaller school by an innovative offensive coordinator, sweep through second-tier programs and eventually rise up to replace the spread. That may be the fabled A-11 or, more likely, something we’ve never heard of. Chances are, however, that it will be a variation on a more traditional “power-run” offense. As teams eschew up-the-gut running and bigger bodies for smaller, faster players, it begs for someone to develop monstrous lines that simply blow you up.
As a side note, and I’m certainly not accusing you of this Brock, one downside of the internet in regards to spots coverage is the complete lack of knowledge of the history of football (and other sports). Too many writers/columnists/anchors are too in love with THE NOW (coughESPNcoughBillSimmonscough) and have no understanding/knowledge of things that are more than five years old. Thus the OMGSPREAD!!!! meme takes hold when mindlessly repeated by those who don’t understand it and why it’s here.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
My favorite Bill Simmons recurring theme:
His obsession with NBA teams “going small”. It’s always his solution to their best five on the floor. He just doesn’t get or understand big men or their importance.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
I've never read much of Simmons stuff
but I still know he’s a moron.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I like Simmons.
Even if I don’t agree with a lot of his sports analysis, he’s a very interesting read and/or listen (podcast).
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
He's become a caricature of himself
And has been for the better part of the last 6-7 years.
Red Sox…touching anecdote about his father…Celtics…Karate Kid reference…Celtics (again)….Red Sox (x 50 more times)…mention of the wife…Patriots…mention of some asinine rule he made up (and that is directly contradicted by another one he invented)…Teen Wolf…Patriots/Red Sox.
There, I’ve just written every Bill Simmons column. Ever.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
It's formulaic but still good.
I still want to hear the classics when I go to a Rolling Stones concert. Bill has shown the depth of his repertoire just the same as they have, and I still appreciate it.
Also, not trying to pick any kind of fight here, but: Kinda funny how you chastise Simmons for constantly embracing THE NOW and then say the reason you dislike him is because he keeps going back to the same well that made him so successful.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
First
you should be dragged out in the street and summarily shot for comparing Bill Simmons to the Rolling Stones. That prison rape of pop culture aside, your point is way off. You may go to a Stones concert and want to hear the classics, but I guaran-damn-tee you that you don’t want to go to the concert and hear Satisfaction over and over again for 3 solid hours. And that’s all Simmons is, a constant repetition of tropes and memes, with the same half-dozen 80s/early 90s pop-culture references sprinkled in. Don’t get me wrong, Simmons was innovative and interesting at one time, he has just failed to progress/evolve as a writer over the past half decade or more. His shtick is as stale as a Catskill comedian dropping the “fresh” comedic stylings of “Take my wife…please.”
And, just because his style is worn-out, that doesn’t mean that he isn’t one of the worst offenders (and there are many, many more) in the “Instant Classic”/everything-we’re-seeing-now-is-the-greatest-thing-ever-until-it-gets-forgotten-five-seconds-from-now crowd.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I guess the thing you disagreed with most
was the “not trying to pick a fight”
No problem though. You clearly have an opinion, I still like him. He’s my favorite writer on tWWL.com, he and Easterbrook are both good. The rest of their staff writers are pretty dreckish. Would you rather see more Rick Reilly or Jemele Hill?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not really trying to convince
and if you like him, that’s your prerogative (you can do what you want to do! /Bobby Brown’d).
I used to really like Reilly back in the day when he was at Sports Illustrated, but haven’t read anything of his in at least 8 years. No one’s reputation suffered more, however, in the rise of Bill Simmons (and the subsequent army of Simmons clones) than Reilly’s. Reilly’s writing/style got “old” and “ancient” real fast. Such is the world I guess.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Liking Reilly?
Now you’re showing some hipster/contradictionist colors.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Do the hipsters like him?
Because, if so, i mayhave to kill myself.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I used to really like Simmons...
when he made an occasional effort to think about and write about new things, or current things from an interesting perspective.
Now, I think he just relies on the fact that he has a following to just yammer about his favorite topics, in a rather predictable fashion. And, he only writes one article per week (I don’t usually listen to his podcasts).
I guess it is forgivable if his family life really is taking up that much of his time. But, it is amazing how bad his column-writing suffers when he is working on a book project or on the 30 for 30 series.
And I wouldn’t be as upset about his Boston-centric writing if the rest of the media (ESPN, movies, etc.) wasn’t also milking the “popularity” of Boston at the same time.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 13, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Do you have a link to this article by any chance?
Sounds interesting
"This is an easy choice- feral pigs plus land mines equals random, airborne bacon." - blanx73
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Jan 13, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Ask
and thou shalt receive. I was wrong, however, Smart Football used the term “apex” in his question (and “apogee” sounded wrong when I wrote it). Also, it was from 2006, so even older than I had thought. Anyhoo, the linky is below:
http://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2006/01/has-spread-offense-reached-its-apex.html
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
It wasn't just the offenses
The DL on both teams (more so Auburn’s) were cheating on almost every play. Shooting the gaps and taking the inherent risk. A spectaular play now and then but also led to some gash runs up the middle.
I’m going to go get arena footbal tickets if it has come to this.
How would you like your steak done, Mr Sweater Vest?
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jan 11, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
I agree to an extent
but Bama had Auburn right where they wanted them. Up 24-nil, moving the ball at will and shutting them down. I really have no clue how it all went so wrong for them. Whatever the reason, I’m pissed it happened the way it did.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Well
Does this mean that we can start looking at spread teams the same way we look at Georgia Tech; A pain in the ass to prepare for during a short week but pretty easy to stop with amonthoff and a defense that doesn’t suck?
Is the spread the new triple option?
http://victorypolka.blogspot.com/
For the record...Iowa would not even request an interview with Brady Hoke
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
People are acting like this is a good hire.
Maybe it is, but when the only reason you’d even interview a guy is because he coached at your school for a couple of years, well, I just don’t see that as a good thing.
I bet Carr gave him a swell letter of recommendation.
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 11, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
I thought Hoke was a decent hire...
but, you are correct, Rambler, that they probably wouldn’t even interview him if he wasn’t a Michigan Man (a decade ago).
They probably should have at least given Gary Patterson an interview, if he would have accepted. And, while he wouldn’t have been a great fit for Michigan, they probably should have talked Chris Peterson into an interview.
But, they’ll probably only have to pay Hoke 1.5 to 2.5 million per year, and they probably would have had to pay Patterson about 3, and Peterson more than that.
If the blue fans can’t get in line with Hoke, then they should lure all of those fans into the Big House with $5 tickets, and then implode the place.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I guess in this day and age...
I should be clear that the whole “implode the big house” comment was only a joke.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
I don't normally defend Michigan and their fans on anything
But my understanding is that money was no object in Ann Arbor when it came to getting the coach they wanted. Harbaugh, and then Miles, understood correctly that they had better options than the Michigan HC job.
If Michigan had wanted Patterson or Peterson, and could have gotten them (that is the key), I am sure Michigan would have ponied up another 1.5 million or so a year.
I don’t know if Peterson or Patterson were ever under consideration for the Michigan job. In keeping with the one of the themes of this thread I suspect they understood they were better off staying where they were, or waiting for better jobs to come open, Michigan millions or no, if they were approached by someone from A2.
Michigan and their fanbase are guilty of many, many things, but being penny-pinchers when it comes to their football programs is not one of them.
by Midnight Rambler on Jan 12, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Then they were sticking to the "Michigan Man" thing...
which might be good (DickRod is not a Mich Man), or might be bad (if Hoke washes out in 3 or 4 years).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 12, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
For the record, ESPN ran an article a few days after Michigan announced its coaching search
and that radio show with Patterson complementing Michigan. That article explained how Patterson promptly signed a huge contract extension. I suspect Brandon was going to reach out to Patterson, but that was probably TCU’s/Patterson’s way of jumping on things and telling Michigan to fuck off.
"This is an easy choice- feral pigs plus land mines equals random, airborne bacon." - blanx73
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Jan 13, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly my thought after seeing the news
SMA is the undisputed Hawkstradamus!
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jan 11, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Plus One
for Ottumwa reference!
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
point, to the point no fakin'
Iowa hasnt lost by more than 7 points in 3 years?
damn, that’s actually really impressive.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 11, 2011 4:16 PM CST reply actions
Until you remember that a loss is a loss is a loss.
by The Mexican't on Jan 11, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
It's all just bad luck and they're not that far from being undefeated.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
A fun speculation would be if Ferentz were hired by, say, the Broncos tomorrow.
Who would Iowa try to replace him with?
We make fun of Michigan and certainly the deserve it, but replacing a coach is not easy. Lots of moving pieces and timing is important, in so many ways.
One guy on my short list, and by this I mean my realistic short list, would be Tom Bradley from Penn State. I would also look youngish pro guys with college backgrounds. Iowa is user friendly to an NFL guy. I wonder who Ferentz would recommend, if he recommended anyone.
Thoughts?
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 11, 2011 4:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Brent Venables? Paul Chryst?
Don’t know if I would want either of those guys, but I would think they might be on the list.
by Ratface McDougal on Jan 11, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
I hate saying it - Josh McDaniels?
He’s a Pioli/Belichik guy, and supposedly can actually coach up a QB.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 11, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
then he can be QB coach
he’s not head coaching any team for a while, if ever.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Given the rapid turnover of NFL coaches
I wouldn’t be so convinced of that. This year we’re seeing owners clinch their cheeks because they don’t want to shell out the big bucks for a coach and then have to pay him during a holdout. Coaches don’t fall under the collective bargaining agreement so they still get paid according to their contracts even if they don’t actually perform their duties.
If they didn’t have a pending lockout/holdout (whatever the fuck it is) I think we could have seen 11 coaches fired this year.
Singletary, Fox, McDaniels, Lewis, Phillips, Childress, Cable, Mangini, Kubiak, Sparano, Turner.
Even though there are a few big names waiting in the wings I still think McDaniels will be a Head Coach within a few years, if he wants to be.
McDaniels has some serious image-rebuilding to do.
He seemed like a petulant coach who didn’t capitalize on his big break with a “good” franchise, and that doesn’t even include the whole video cheating thing.
He’ll need a few years as a successful coordinator again before he gets another NFL HC position. He might be able to go the Lane Kiffin route and get a college HC gig, but I’m unsure how much networking he has at that level. He played at John Carroll, was a GA at Michigan State under Saban, so maybe everyone that wants a Saban or Belichick disciple will accept him, or maybe not.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
College HC gig
Wasn’t that the question. I’m not saying I’d like it, but the Pioloi connections to this Iowa regime run strong, no?
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 12, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Yes.
And I still think he needs to do some image rehab to get a major college HC job.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 12, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Pitt didn't hire Bradley mostly because he coaches at Penn State.
Unlike PSU (Who can seat 100,000 for a game against Oberlin), Pitt is more dependent on boosters and some of the more powerful ones may still hate PSU, etc. You know, forget the fact that Bradley is a better Western PA recruiter than Pitt’s last two coaches.
UConn didn’t hire Bradley because….well, my best theory is that it’s for a reason that might have also played into Pitt’s decision. My local newspaper describes Todd Graham as bringing a “potent offense” to Pitt. And UConn’s new guy is a genius offensive coordinator. Also, Temple didn’t hire Bradley but an OC in Steve Addazio. Who is mostly incompetent. But he’s still an OC.
Where am I?
Anyway, I think most ADs are predisposed towards hiring some genius guy with his fancy spread thing than some boring DC like Bradley. Seriously, if Penn State isn’t running the Cover 3 on a given play they’re probably running something based off of the Cover 3. It’s all enough to make me think Bradley at Iowa isn’t the craziest thing in the world.
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 11, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not really a fan of Bradley as Iowa HC...
but I also wasn’t a big fan of Ferentz at first, either.
I foresee that, if Iowa didn’t promote a member of the staff, they probably look at guys with Iowa ties first, unless they think they can get a big name that would also not be a clown. Which means probably no Mike Leach.
I’d like to find out if Bob Sanders has what it takes to coach. If so, get him on track right after his playing career, so he could be at least Iowa’s DC by 2020 or so.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Jagodzinski?
I know his flirtations with NCState got him canned at BC. He’s probably less likely to stay at Iowa than most coaches, but this job is still better than NCSU or BC.
Mark Stoops? C’mon, who wasn’t impressed with FSU’s D at many points this season?
How about Bobby Stoops instead?
Alma mater, it’s an excellent gig now, etc and so on.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 12, 2011 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
NO STOOPS!
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 12, 2011 8:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
@Packerhawk...
Jagz was fired for interviewing for the NY Jets head coaching job. Former BC coach Tom O’Brien actually left for NC State.
Jagz was head coach for the Omaha UFL team this past season, and was fired for going 3-5 (going 0-4 after starting 3-1). I think the bloom is off this rose.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 12, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
@dub-cheeeeezy
teeee hee motherfucking heeeeeee
Lol
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 12, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
I don't get it.
Or am I the joke? Because then, I probably do get it.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 12, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, I stand corrected.
I just threw out the first name that popped into my head. However, failing to have a winning record at a non-FBS coaching gig shouldn’t disqualify anyone from being a head coach, especially if they have other successes on their resume. Ferentz was 12-21 at Maine.
Michigan hires Brady hoke. That’ll excite them. What a fiasco. The only guy who apparently wanted the job
by txhawkeye on Jan 11, 2011 5:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Indiana passed on pursuing Brady Hoke...
so, yeah, clusterfuck.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
They need someone who can recruit in Northern Ohio and lock down recruiting in Michigan.
So they hired someone who is an unknown commodity in terms of recruiting those areas? I hope they’ve got a good plan for their staff…
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 11, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
You take that back
you don’t really hope that, I hope.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jan 11, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
That's not really true
He recruited those areas for Michigan as a DL coach and associate head coach, and presumably he recruited those areas for Ball State. His entire career has been spent in that region except for the 2 years at SDSU.
I think there are reasons to doubt the hire, but lack of recruiting contacts in the Midwest isn’t one of them.
I don’t think he ever really competed with Mark Dantonio, let alone Jim Tressel.
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 13, 2011 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
I think that's true, however
he has two things going for him now, that Dantonio does not have:
a. he has the full backing of the traditional Michigan community: all the ex-players, coaches, the boosters. I was struck at how real this is; it’s very, very different than what Iowa can present to a recruit.
he’s charming and charismatic, in a Fred Flintstone sort of way, and I am already convinced that they will be a lot tougher and fundamentally sound next fall.I watched his press conference, and I guess I think he’s going to coach and recruit a little like McCarney, with emotion, love and decibels. I think they’ll like him over there and keep Denard and push their D into a top 80 D next fall and be tough.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Depends what you mean by "compete"
As a head coach, probably not. Ball State can’t exactly compete with Ohio State or Michigan State for recruits. It would have been ideal for them to hire someone that has competed as a head coach on that level, but there aren’t too many of those guys available.
But, it’s not like he doesn’t have big-time recruiting experience. He was at Michigan for 6 years recruiting the same players as Ohio State, including 2 years while Tressel and Dantonio were bothat OSU.
Re-phrase that.
…the only guy, out of the three guys they looked at, who apparently wanted the job.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, Bellanca.
I’m sure you already know this, but it appears that MGOBLOG doesn’t really, uh, “get it”. Observe:
After learning a hard lesson about program continuity with the last hire why did Michigan hire a guy who professes to hate the spread ‘n’ shred a day after two spread teams played for the national title?
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
That guy who apparently is the voice behind that site
is an idiot. How any longstanding Michigan fan cannot lust for the days of Elvis Grbac, Tom Brady, Chad Henne (to name a few) and a power running game behind some of the best big uglies ever, is beyond me. Wanting to be Oregon or Auburn suits me fine. I sense that Bo Pelini is about to come to Jesus on the power running game in T-minus…
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I think the deal is that it's really
a fantasy football site, so they focus on things other than winning games. Or, they play Yardage Football there, not Tackle Football.
Whatever. I think Kill and Hoke are good additions to the conference and will make our lives harder in a couple of years.
Watching that awful game last night just led me to believe that coaches are going to have to choose: do they want to have a football team that runs the ball between the tackles, and throws the ball anywhere they want? Or do they want to go single-wing, hope their opponents are confused by science, and forget about throwing the ball with any grace and efficiency? I thought that game was almost unwatchable. I thought those offenses were offensive. I got tired of waiting for someone to properly execute a tackle. All in all, it was what mgoblog wanted for the Michigan future, before they lost their last three games by EIGHTY-EIGHT POINTS. Like I said, I think it’s fantasy football over there.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Fantasy football where watching actual games is optional
reminds me of the G Tech’ers spouting off all the stats last year.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Right now I'm just in amazement that Michigan fired RichRod without a decent plan.
Frankly, I don’t see “We’ll hire Hoke if we have to” as a decent plan.
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 11, 2011 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
I agree. They must have decided that RR was done no matter what,
because it sure seems logical to keep him and restructure a bit, in the event that their first choice (Harbaugh) was unattainable.
Maybe there’s a star chamber of kingly boosters who sit behind the scenes, and they just went “No more Josh Groban, please.”
We play tackle football, most of the time.
The fired Rich Rod, I am guessing
because Brandon felt no one in the Michigan concentric circles supported him anymore, and it became an unworkable situation. I also am guessing that they disagreed on what route to take to get the defense up to snuff. If he retained rich Rod he had poison oozing from every crack of the Big House. And he just lost faith he could win.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
There are some rumors floating around
of various credibility, that seem to indicate that in December Harbaugh was very interested in the Michigan job but that Brandon`failed to act quickly enough or was too lenient in letting Harbaugh coach Stanford in the Orange Bowl before acting. Then, all of a sudden, Harbaugh’s stock soared uncrontrollably in NFL circles and Harbaugh suddenly got cold feet, leaving Michigan hanging out in the wind.
For what it’s worth, I really don’t know what to think about Harbaugh. There is almost zero chance he can live up to the hype in SF and no recent coach has seen his stock soar so high, so quickly and so untethered to any sustained accomplishment.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I sense they never had a shot at Harbaugh
if they really thought their shit didn’t stink, they would have offered the job to Harbaugh and given him 24-hours to respond to a killer offer, right after the regular season. Then if he says no, you’re not getting him after the bowl anyway. Brandon might have done that or he might have chickened out and not have done it. Who cares…they’re sucking wind and I love it.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 12, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Harbaugh
FWIW I don’t know if Harbaugh will bring the 49ers to the “promised land” but I’m sure I can speak for a lot of my fellow niners fans when I say that at this point we would just be happy with a winning season. We have had our dreams dashed for so long (8 years is a long time for a playoff drought!) that we just want to see some progress. Think of it like the Iowa Men’s Hoopyball team.
When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel
I'm hopeful about Harbaugh as a Niner...
because I think we will bring in some new blood at QB, and then Harbaugh will pick one and stick to it.
Rotating around at QB was not helpful for Singletary.
Then, maybe we should actually build an O-Line one of these years.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 12, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
I'm hopeful about lottery playing and winning me
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 12, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
From all indications
it sounds like he knows how to develop QBs, so I will remain ever hopeful that they will turn things around. I liked the Singletary hire at the time, but it became painfully obvious he was not ready for the role.
When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel
Do you think
MS will get another chance somewhere? I wouldn’t think as a HC but maybe a DC or position coach.
I heard rumors that he was interviewing
for the LBs coach in Minnesota with his former teammate (Frasier). I have yet to hear if he ended up getting the job. I think if he gets some experience in a coordinator role, and does generally well, then he should get another opportunity. I could see him going to the college ranks too. Somebody will probably take a chance on him.
You may call me Don Diddles.
I agree
My only concern is, there are reports out there that claimed he is more of a “preacher” than a teacher. It didn’t go over too well in the 49er locker room, but maybe it was a unique situation and a change of scenery is all he needs to succeed. Who knows, maybe I’m just full of shit.
You may call me Don Diddles.
I also foresee a possible coordinator job for him...
and maybe a college job that is a good fit. Time will tell if he gets an NFL head spot again, but those things are trending younger and younger, so maybe that won’t favor him in 5 or 8 years (he’s 52 right now).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 14, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
time will tell
… hmm I see where you are coming from, for sure.
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 14, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
I am so glad Harbough went to the niners
The thought of him on Michigan’s sidelines on Saturdays scared the shit out of me.
"I think Kill...will make our lives harder in a couple of years."
I hope so.
In spite of Maturi’s general fumbling of the Gopher football program since, well, the day he arrived in the Cities, I think Maturi Forrest Gumped his way in to a good coaching hire.
To quote someone on one SBN site or another, “Maturi fell in to a barrel of dicks and somehow came up with a tit in his mouth” when he conducted the search for Brewster’s succesor.
by Midnight Rambler on Jan 12, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
On the other hand...
Maturi fell into a barrel of pelican whores and somehow came up with the human equivalent of a Chihuahua whore when he conducted the search for Mason’s succesor.
"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 12, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
BTW...at 8:30pm on ESPN.COM
the “cover” of the site is Pete Carroll. Michigan is no where to be seen, despite yesterday being the biggest day of the year for college football. That’s how far they’ve dropped.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Loll
This should be the first comment/image posted anytime Bellanca mentions Brian Cook or MGoBlog.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 12, 2011 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
I'm glad
I wasn’t the only one who was so distraught by the game last night. It was brutal, a joke on football, and offensive to anybody to actually appreciates the game and not gimmicks. My bet is Oregon ceases to be impressive by the end of next year, as this latest gimmick offense is shut-down by the defenses that should shut it down.
by imadirtyoldman on Jan 11, 2011 10:24 PM CST reply actions
I only saw the 4th quarter...
but I found myself saying “Why is Oregon pulling a Wisconsin (not doing what you have the huge advantage at)? Why not just pass at Auburn’s sham of a secondary, when you are getting a 30 yard gain about one out of every 3 or 4 passes?”
And Oregon kept trying to run the ball, and kept getting crushed at the line. Then, Auburn started to use RBs instead of just letting Cam Newton’s giant jaw thrust at the Ducks. And it worked, because Oregon only packed a Pac-12 defense.
When Oregon can’t score 45 ppg, they are beatable. Auburn was also beatable, but Cheezuk was lucky enough to run into his second bone-headed opposing coach in as many bowls.
I don’t know why I am surprised that neither team got 30 points, but I am very surprised that we didn’t see Auburn players hugging their agents on the field and accepting bundles of 20 dollar bills at the same time.
F*** them all, we’re Iowa. Deal with it.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Word
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 12, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Scratch where it itches
is apparently a dying philosophy, because almost no one was doing it in there bowls that i saw, Iowa included.
which reminds me, Hyde should return kicks.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 12, 2011 1:07 AM CST reply actions
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