Defending Iowa Fans

A thousand times, this.

I had the same thoughts earlier. Actually, I think you’re too easy on the ISU fans in the pro football analogy. According to the “logic” of the Clones fans, unless you played for the Chicago Bears you can’t be a fan of the team. Which, of course, is ridiculous. It’s just a reflexive way for them to avoid the reality that their program is an afterthought nationally, within their own conference, and in the state.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, ISU fans should play a riveting game of Hide-and-Go-Fuck-Off.

Wanted to go somewhere else for undergrad and they didn’t let me in for grad school. I don’t think I am going to follow either of my school’s athletic programs – I didn’t know my grad school even had a football team until after I graduated and small liberal arts college football from Iowa doesn’t get much national coverage, even if “The Ocho” comes into existence. I was born into a Hawkeye family and continue that tradition to this day.

The person who collects booster money and the money from ticket sales doesn’t give one rat’s ass about where the person attended college. I would guess Iowa collects more money from non-grads than ISU does for their whole program – this is completely speculative on my part but looking at the budgets from both schools and Iowa’s athletics are completely self funded leads me to believe this.

But true dat. Where you went to school shouldn’t determine how good of a fan you are. Your passion should.

about the number of ISU alums that are Iowa fans.

A fanbase that extends beyond the university community is a hallmark of all major, successful programs. Do Cyclone fans really think all those 80,000-110,000 fans filling the stadiums of LSU, Florida, Bama, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, etc. are all alumni? Of course they don’t – rather, they just can’t stand the fact that Iowa is more comparable in stature to those programs than to ISU and their 45,000 attendance, no tv time, December bowl game, Big XII North ilk.

Don’t hate us because we’re beautiful.

When did ISU fans start to act like they went to jNW? What is with all of the “we are smarter than those guys talk”? I didn’t realize that Iowa State was disconnected cousin of the Ivy League.

Went with my dad (Who has some of the cheaper season tickets in the north end zone.) to games growing up. I joined the Navy and did five deployments over 20 years. When at sea, I was at the mercy of what ever news the military happened to give me. Well guess what, unless some town was under water, the only news from home that was about the Hawks.

Since that was my only tie to home,(Beyond 3 week news papers mailed from my dad. Remember the Big Peach/) the Hawks have a special place in my heart. (Does anyone else tear up watching the swarm take the field?)

….and these guys think I haven’t earned the right to be a Hawk fan. Pfffffft.

but mainly because of cost. My college decision came down to Iowa and UNI, and I liked the campus a bit better, and it was cheaper to go to UNI. But I grew up 15 minutes from IC, going to football and basketball games on frequent occasions. We would get 2 season tickets for each, then my brother and I would have to split up the games as to who would get to go with our dad. The Hawk love is ingrained in my DNA. I still root hard for UNI, but the Hawks will always come first. Fuck ISU.

Had to choose between the two for engineering school. Now I’m in Boston, a no-mans land for CFB. I wish I had some friends out here that were fans of either team. We all sit and complain about the other, but let me tell you these assholes out here are deluded. I was born into an Iowa family and that will never change.

Iowa is the popular kid at school, quarterback of the football team, prom king, and sleeping with the hot chicks, while ISU is sitting in the corner trying to get people to look at them and their new macaroni picture they just made.

Simply put, Iowa athletics are larger, generate more money, and are more successful. With that success comes more attention, and therefore generates more fans, whether they went to the school or not.

The Dumb. It is strong with them.

for posting this. My friend from iowa state is constantly ranting about this exact subject. Jealous? Too bad!

I just saw a post over at the Clone Chronicles that had this exact argument in it, in fact i think it was the main point of discussion, or close to it. Yeah…I know I must be getting really bored to be reading anything over there ha.

If other schools in that conference believe this theory than that explains why Nebraska and Texas wanted out so badly. Maybe they looked at their fan base and realized that a great majority of it came from people other than graduates. Knowing this and not wanting to be ridiculed any longer they made a run for it. Or in Texas’ case, ran until the money pulled them back in. For now. And the future demise of the Big12 will come in a few years, when Texas figures out that the scorn of other conference members’ graduates only policy is too much to handle. They leave the conference realizing the disgrace they have bestowed upon the Big12, and beg forgiveness of conferences like the Pac10 or SEC.

meet a fellow clown fan, do you think they ask if they attended ISU? If they did not attend, do they inform them that that are not allowed to be fans?

Not to.be a dick.about it, but one could say that a degree from UI (and the corresponding time in Iowa city, could serve to denote a primary subset of hawk fans.

Either way, face it isu, we have built a better program worth following set at a better university and you Jamie Pollard/d yourselves.

but if trolling was their intention, they’ve done a fine job judging by the reaction.

Either way, they’re all r-tards anyway. It’s equivalent to saying that you shouldn’t be allowed to eat a meal if you didn’t make it. It’s faulty logic for stupidheads.

I went to Coe for a variety of reasons, but have been a lifelong Hawkeye fan. Not going to that school doesn’t prohibit me from being a fan, or make me any less of a fan. I live in Dallas now and see the same crap with A&M and UT. The A&M fans are feeling sorry for themselves and came up w/ the slogan “I’m an Aggie b/c I got a degree, you’re a Longhorn b/c you bought a t-shirt.” Same thing ISU is playing here, and frankly it looks pathetic.

as are many members of my family. Sort of makes fiscal sense to go to college in Cedar Falls if you grew up in Waterloo. However, my grandfather attended (not sure if he graduated) Iowa. If he didn’t graduate, then none of my grandparents have college degrees. My dad went to UNI, and did some graduate work at Iowa.

Bottom line, we root for the Hawks. Sure, we root for UNI also, and are conflicted when they match up. But, if you live in Iowa, you almost have to root for the Hawks.

In fairness, I would probably also root for ISU (when they don’t play Iowa or UNI), but as long as they employ Pollard, it holds me back from supporting them in any tangible way.

All it really takes is one visit to Kinnick or Carver while the Hawks are even doing OK, and you have to respect Iowa and their fans.

Finally, I can’t wait for the day when Iowa wins big (maybe a national title) in football or basketball. It will feel like the whole state won. Why? Because the screen will say “Iowa: 20XX National Champions.”

GO HAWKS!!!

every time they play nebraska or frankly anyone else besides Iowa, I think “you know, I hope they win” but then I’m quickly reminded by their miserable excuses for fans why I hate Iowa State. I never see them supporting Iowa outside of the Cy-Hawk game. It’s always “I hope they lose. I hate Iowa. blah blah blah.” I don’t mean to generalize as I know there are a lot of Iowa State fans that are level headed. But the ones that aren’t really really kill any respect I have for ISU. I hate this game and cannot wait for this weekend to be over. Go Hawks

Our family is complicated in sports, my dad is an Iowa State grad, my mom has been to every school in existence (including ISU) but mainly cheers for Iowa, and my step dad is Missouri. My bro decided to go to ISU because of their engineering program and instate tuition because my dad lives there (were from KC). Pretty understandable. He’s a big ISU fan and makes this argument all the time. He actually roots for the Hawks but dislikes some fans. He even went to the Orange Bowl with us and cheered pretty loud. So in return we cheer for ISU when they dont play Iowa. But he ALWAYS makes this argument to me because I’m a big Iowa fan and im in high school (dont judge). IT INFURIATES ME. Anyone else have family go to ISU?

…there’s also a subset of people who grew up lifelong Hawkeye fans, but didn’t get into Iowa. And we can make fun of people who can’t get into Iowa, but be honest—you were probably friends with a couple kids like that in high school. I know I was. And I really have no patience or desire to let some ISU partisan use a cheap rhetorical trick to demean those guys’ passion for the Hawkeyes, no matter what they did after high school.

I just want to thank Smokin Herb for the great Friend of the Pants t-shirt. Go Hawks.

but I am also currently attending the University of Iowa. And yet, if I’d chosen to go anywhere else, I’d still bleed Black & Gold, because that is my favorite football team.

The End.

It’s a stupid argument, but it flourishes all over the map.