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Ranking The Iowa-Penn State Wins, No. 4: 2002

Let's face it, under Kirk Ferentz, the Iowa Hawkeyes have always had a particularly interesting relationship with the Penn State Nittany Lions. Which is to say we beat them, a lot, but there's usually plenty to the game itself and its repercussions that makes these games special. There's seven wins in the Kirk Ferentz era, and we're going to rank them all.


Full game? Full game. Lots of commercials, though.

 

No. 4: September 28, 2002, Iowa 42, Penn State 35

Here's the deal: I sort of hate this game. I mean, I love it that Iowa won, and that it was their first conference win of an 8-0 Big Ten slte, and that Ed Hinkel made that superman catch in the back of the end zone. Love all that.

But this game had no business being anywhere that close, and I'm not only referring to the fact that Penn State scored 22 unanswered points to finish regulation, although that was nauseating enough all on its own. It was only two weeks prior that we'd witnessed the 29 straight points ISU dumped on Iowa in the second half of that game (which remains the single most aggravating Iowa game we've ever seen), so that wound was a bit fresh as it is.

No, when I say it shouldn't have been that close, I'm referring to the three touchdowns Iowa left off the board with a big lead in place:

Star-divide

  • With six minutes left in the first half and Iowa up 23-0, Antwan Allen stripped Larry Johnson as he was being tackled, then picked up the ball and waltzed into the end zone from about 15 yards out. Problem: the official blew the play dead with the ball already on the ground, no score for Iowa, and Penn State would score a touchdown on that drive.
  • With Iowa leading 35-13, Ed Hinkel took a punt to Penn State's 12 yard line, and one play later, Brad Banks was throwing to Dallas Clark in the end zone. Except, Clark cut so hard that his shoe came off, he slipped, the ball hit Clark in his hands, and bounced to a Penn State defender. Touchback, Penn State ball on the 20.
  • On the ensuing possession, Jovon Johnson picked off Zack Mills and took the ball back to the one-yard line. Very first play from scrimmage, Fred Russell fumbles, Penn State ball.

So this game shouldn't have been close. It should have been an absolute wrecking, something befitting the domination Iowa put on the Nittany Lions. It wasn't, and that makes me mad.

That all out of the way? Good.

This game was still great, though, because it allowed us to see Brad Banks really start to develop into a high-level quarterback against even decent competition. Iowa was 10-18 on 3rd downs over the course of the game, with most of the conversions coming on Banks completions or runs. Iowa's last three touchdowns all came on third down strikes by Banks (who had four TDs on the day), and they wouldn't have been scores on average throws.

What's more, Fred Russell proved to be the every-down back most people thought he was too small to be: 35 rushes, 142 yards, one damned fine 20-yard score. C.J. Jones was an effective red zone target, and the Iowa offensive line pushed PSU's around everywhere. This was the week where it all started to look really legit for the 2002 Iowa team.

But ugh, that comeback. Credit goes to Zack Mills and the Brothers Johnson for their role in it; it was absolutely a sterling performance by the Penn State offense in the fourth quarter. If they'd kept up that production all day long, they'd have scored 88 points, and you know what? I don't think Iowa wins that game. I really don't, guys. Just calling it the way I see it. And that, combined with the multiple touchdowns Iowa didn't score, left me more relieved than happy when the game ended in overtime. At that point, even announcer Mark Jones shifted his summary of the game from "Iowa is dominating" to "Iowa steals a win," and that's so fucking bogus. That wasn't an upset. Iowa was hands-down the better team, they proved it over the course of the year, and they should have proved it that afternoon. Now I'm upset again just thinking about this game. Rrrrgh.

Next up: No more spoilers.

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Rrrrgh.

You pooped yourself like JoePa, didn’t you?

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 30, 2010 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

While I shared your general angst about the game

Paterno chasing the ref like he had a pantsful is a memory that makes it all ok

by Sky High King on Sep 30, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

No mention of Chris Harrell?

He made Yaacov Yisrael look like Deion Sanders in comparison.

If PSU won the ‘02 game, how would that have affected instant replay? I know that wasn’t the only game to cause an uproar, but there’s no denying Joe’s influence on the Big Ten to adopt it, then consequently all of the NCAA.

@jschnauzer
Bloggin' at joepasdoghouse.com

by Cairo on Sep 30, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

See I disagree

That made me hate the game even more. Everyone left the game talking about JoePa running down the field and screaming at the official which proved that a) he’s still alive c) actually coaching (although he really wasn’t, just standing up for his players) and b) that PSU got jobbed by the officials. Never mind the blown call that cost Iowa six points, that’s all everyone was talking about and it angered me.

by Buddy Light on Sep 30, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect I know what's #1.

I’ll be interested in how you order #2 and #3. I have a real soft spot for 6-4, the best, worst football game I’ve maybe ever watched.

by DonnyDonovan on Sep 30, 2010 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

The 1984 game really should be involved.

Long had one play where he was this close to getting stripped by a blitzer but he got away and threw a touchdown pass. That’s why I laugh when they call Terrelle Pryor a Heisman candidate. Long and Bo Jackson in the same year…ridiculous.

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction: 1983

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey look, John Constantine!

/Davie’d

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Sep 30, 2010 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

hellblazer!

Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Sep 30, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess for the rest:

#1: 2008
#2: 2009
#3: 6-4

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Sep 30, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

That year was

Iowa learning to win again. You could see the growth nearly every week. They started in ’01, and were building off it. After losing the big lead vs. ISU, won this one in OT. Looks really bad from where we are now, but from where we were then, frustrating but not as bad.

In Norm we trust.

by Mr. Grizz on Sep 30, 2010 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I know Adam Shada

isn’t well liked around these parts by many (myself included), but in comparison to our secondary in this game, he is positively Deion Sanders-esque.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Sep 30, 2010 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I always admired Adam Shada

and anyone who disagrees can pound sand.

How many tackles did Adam Shada miss?

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Sep 30, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, plenty?

His effort was unimpeachable, but he was not meant to be a Big Ten corner. Unfortunately, we had no other decent options at the time.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Sep 30, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Thank you, Ross, for so effectively and succinctly summing up my feelings. I will never bad mouth Adam Shada as a person, and his effort on the field (hell, just to get back to the field) cannot be questioned. But he was just so clearly not a Big Ten-caliber CB that it was painful to (1) watch and (2) know that there was no one on the team good enough to take his spot.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 1, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

My one memory of 2002 penn st goes something like this:

Johnson up the middle stopped by Johnson." “Ball caught by Johnson, tackled by Johnson with a defensive pass interferance by Johnson.” "Johnson with a run to the outside, great block by Johnson on Johnson, tackled by Johnson while Johnson watches.

by trhawk on Sep 30, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't get your deal, Adam.

Considering the way the second half went (I.e. the momentum was totally in Penn State’s favor), Iowa did steal a win. Yes, they were better, but they certainly didn’t look better when Penn State’s defense finally got their butts in gear.

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

The first half officiating was the real joke.

The TD on the strip (which I think was BOB, btw) was a travesty. Inadvertent whistle my ass, they were trying to protect PSU under some weird mercy rule officiating. It was BS.

And don’t even get me started on the Russell fumble after the INT return. He was over the goal line before he lost the ball. But because it was such a woodshedding at that point no one knew to get worked up over it.

This is an upper 30’s to zippo game without those hosejobs. It’s always bothered me that Psycho Zombie Coach bitched non stop about the officiating after that game. It cost us two clear TDs in the first half, and arguably affected the OT (interesting that PSU fans’ definition of pass interference changed so much between that OT and the 2008 game. Just sayin).

/end rant.

by indyhawk on Sep 30, 2010 7:10 PM CDT reply actions  

This post annoys me more than it should. Iowa won fair and square. To bash Joe is pretty silly considering his “bitching” about the refs in this game and against Michigan two weeks later pretty much got us instant replay. As for the pass interference, you brought it up and since you did, guess what? Nothing should have been called, but if anything Stross interfered with Scirotto. Guess what else? I got over it.

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, obviously I found that on Youtube after I hit post.

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

In my mind, it was like this:
Stanzi rolls, throws downfield, Anthony Scirotto makes a play on the ball, Stross, who is behind him, jumps up for the ball, hits Scirotto, and they both fall down.

Eeesh.

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait.. what?

Stross was behind him? Are you watching an inverse camera angle or something? Stross jumps up for the balll, Scirotto jumps forward, through Stross, to the ball. Pass Interference. He made a play for the ball, yes, but he can’t go through the receiver to do that. If they were side by side with contact, no call.

by hwknout on Oct 1, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah.. nevermind...

Just saw your post below. Forget I said anything… sorry Rambler… that play trips a trigger with me when PSU fans complain about it. Had a guy argue that Stross never even looked for the ball and no matter how many times I showed him the clip, he said he never looked for it…

/rant

by hwknout on Oct 1, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey AJ what's up with the quotation marks disappearing in the header box?

Thought it was just me, but I assume you “quoted” Rambler there. It’s been that way all week (maybe longer).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 1, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa.

It had been way too long since I had seen that play. Stross didn’t interfere with him. Sorry about that.

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last word on it

And I think it was Hawkeye State er Patrick Vint who summed it up best immediately after the game: that’s arguably not really interference on Scoriotto’s part, but given he went through Stross (unintentionally) you’re ALWAYS going to get that call. But that call simply negated the phantom roughing-the-kicker call on Sandeman when Penn State had punted the drive before.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 1, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are good.

But is Bolden, enough?

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Sep 30, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I was so pissed about when the game went to overtime...

…I was all “we wouldn’t even have this problem if it wasn’t Penn State, but they get the calls and we don’t.”
I know that’s homerific (cause I don’t remember them, but I’m sure we got a couple), but the big play calls always seemed to fall their way, and it didn’t seem like an accident.
Though Rambler is right, this season was a big reason we now have the (seemingly more fair, though still occasionally questionable) review/replay.
Just glad we won it. It may have helped to solidify the “grit” of that team. It may have paid off against fPurdue later that year.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 1, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

This game was the beginning of KF going conservative.

Trust me. You will never see us get out to a lead like this against a good team, and thus you will never see an implosion like this either. He was scared straight after this one.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Sep 30, 2010 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh hi Stoops.

Kirk did some interview this week and he was all like “We’re favored? Boy, I just don’t see that.”

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I gotta discuss the meaning (and value) of swagger with him

I love the guy, but he doesn’t exactly help the AP and USA Today vote count. I know some voters are like, “well if their coach isn’t high on them then why should I be?” But I also am sure he expects to win this one…whereas I really don’t think he did last year or the year before. So, in other words, he is out of his comfort zone.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Sep 30, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about we just beat a really good team, and then another one?

If we beat teams, and we have the #1 D in the country, there’s no sense in bragging.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Sep 30, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

swagger's not bragging

we’ve discussed this…

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Oct 1, 2010 6:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look.

All I can say is that Kirk is being ridiculous. I think that was an exact quote I posted. Who talks like that? He sounds like my great grandfather, rest his soul.

I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

All coaches have coach speak...

they’re leaders of very impressionable young men. I understand that any organization has a mission statement, mantras, etc. It is the cornerstone of developing a culture to have everyone on the same page. As we all know, Ferentz routinely puffs up the opposition as an extraordinary challenge that will take near perfection to handle. As he always says, “A program like ours has no room for error.” I get that. But, there are times when it is silly to say these things. He would have been much better off saying nothing or saying something like, “We have a great opportunity here, but no greater than does Penn State.” This notion that we are the sisters of the poor gets intellectually tiring. Because here is why, when Iowa is an underdog he beats that drum silly. (See his comments on being an underdog to Arizona.)

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Oct 1, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, this is insightful

because most other programs and their press don’t quite know what to think of Iowa and Ferentz. They see him as a hard working, successful coach who has a history of strong line play and a predisposition toward running the football and playing field position with solid defense(if they even know that much). People who really pay attention know exactly who Ferentz is and that he is among the Top 10 highest paid football coaches in American says something about Iowa’s committment to football and his value.

But of course Ferentz sells. All communication is persuasive. That is unclear to the layperson, but ask any professor of communication and you’ll get a lecture on this. Human beings are always sending messages, as they say " you cannot not communicate" and those messages influence. So while Ferentz may not be HARD selling, he’s selling nevertheless. Iowa just doesn’t happen. It is a package, a culture, and ideal and idea, and a way to go about things and he goes the Big Ten media day and to recruits homes, and he does his press conference and he thinks long and hard about what he will and will not say and how he will and will not say it.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Oct 1, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're just too swell
It is a package, a culture, an ideal and an idea.

Our defense can still grow to become excellent.

by jtothep on Oct 1, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is, however, the best argument why the Coaches Poll should be discontinued

By his own admission, he (and implicitly most coaches) get rather tunnel-visioned during the season and don’t watch much, if any, of the other games each week. Having them turn around and vote each week is ridiculous

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 1, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I understand your Swagger meme and the justification behind it…but seemingly everyone gripes about the pollsters not actually paying attention to games. Now…we’re pretending as though they aren’t paying attention to the games but they pay close enough attention to every comment Kirk Ferentz makes to catch this one and actually take it into account when making their rankings? I catch much of what Ferentz says and didn’t see this one.

I understand your point…constant references to us not being a very good football team catch up with you in the end…but still there is nothing worse than someone attempting to fein Swagger when it’s just not in their DNA. Furthermore…Kirk’s self-depricating nature and the strength of his character are so strong that he will not become swaggerific anytime soon.

It’s not as if Kirk is always this way (granted he is very often)…if I remember correctly it was the Michigan State game last year where he complained in his post-game interview about how in the world we were underdogs in the game.

by HawKCP on Oct 1, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

ZOMG BUT PENN STATE'S WON 51 GAMES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, DUDE!

KF has been goddamn obsessed with that stat this week.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Sep 30, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just thinking

What are the two easiest ways to become a millionaire in Iowa?
1. Be born in Pella
2. Play football for the Iowa Hawkeyes. They just produce NFL “Ballers”

Lone Star Beer and Bob Wills Music

by newflahawk on Oct 1, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Great Game

Also saw my “Bears Buddy,” Robbie Gould (pronounced “gold”), as in “as good as gold”!

Lone Star Beer and Bob Wills Music

by newflahawk on Oct 1, 2010 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

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