Arizona Preview: Hold The Line
by Adam Jacobi on Sep 17, 2010 10:30 AM CDT
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PrintIt's Friday, which means it's time to preview tomorrow's game. We used to call this "There's A Game On Saturday?", but as it turns out, nobody googles that. So the boring title is your fault.
News, Notes, and News
Here are Iowa's two-deeps. Nolan MacMillan has earned a starting role over Adam Gettis at RG, which we must admit does not worry us in the slightest. MacMillan has been a road grader against EIU and ISU, and considering what even Northern Iowa did to Gettis last year, this is a welcome sign of prosperity on the interior line.
Shaun Prater and Jeff Tarpinian are both healthy and starting. Adam Robinson is the first-string tailback, and Jewel Hampton is the only second-stringer. No other presumptive starters are injured. The only anomaly in the 2-deeps is Christian Ballard sharing starting duties at DT and DE with Mike Daniels and Broderick Binns, respectively; this speaks more to Daniels' progression and Ballard's versatility than anything about Binns. All in all, Iowa is as close to full strength as possible at this point in the season.
On the other side of the ball, Arizona returns massive guard Vaughn Dotsy, who is 6'5" and 360 pounds. Vaughn Dotsy underwent the same type of back surgery that sidelined future New England draft pick Rob Gronkowski for last year's Iowa game, and if Dotsy's in the starting lineup, he's ready to play ball. How Iowa approaches matchups against Dotsy--especially considering the damage he can do off the line in double-team situations--will be key to whether Iowa can be successful on Saturday
Keys to the Game
As with any game between two ranked opponents with a line under four points, this is a contest that could go either way with one errant bounce of the ball or random sprain of an ankle. So if one team loses a key player and the other wins by 11, please refrain from gloating. Because unless you wrote "I am certain that Player X won't survive until halftime," you didn't actually see Outcome Y coming, and you deserve no more credit than any random guesser in that scenario.
That all aside, if both teams stay healthy, Iowa has the advantage on the line of scrimmage. Arizona's offensive line isn't to be trifled with, mind you, and it will likely help lead QB Nick Foles to at least two touchdown drives. But Iowa's defensive line is so good that we can't trust the Arizona to play keep-away from Iowa for very long in the fourth quarter if that's what the game comes to. Moreover, Iowa's DL will either directly force a turnover or two or--at the very least--end a couple drives prematurely.
Meanwhile, Iowa's "rebuilding" offensive line has looked dominant against inferior competition, which sounds an awful lot like Arizona's defensive line's accomplishments thus far. Riley Reiff and Markus Zusevics will likely have their hands full with Ricky Elmore and Brooks Reed, but when it comes to action between the tackles, Iowa probably has the advantage on the LOS. Will Reiff and Zusevics hold the line well enough to let Stanzi punish the linebackers on play-action if they cheat against the run? There's your key for the Iowa offense.
Predictions
Dutiful listeners of the extremely informative BHGPodcast already know my prediction for the game, but here's the deal: if whoever's calling the game this weekend in Norm Parker's stead shares Parker's sensibilities (very likely, that), then Iowa's going to make Foles beat Iowa's base defense over and over, and for 4-9 yards a pop. Foles will probably do that to an extent, but only at the expense of putting Iowa in a position to win if the Hawkeyes manage three or four scoring drives of their own. I expect that to happen. Iowa 24-20 is my call.
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Some points
The two deeps came out on Monday. I think it is premature to say that MacMillian has earned the job over Gettis. We don’t know how practice went this week, and where the staff is going with this.
Just a hunch, but considering Ferentz’ earlier comments about Gettis and MacMillian’s play thus far (solid, but full of errors), I suspect Gettis will win the job if/when he gets healthy. And that could have been during this past week of practice. But it is clear also that MacMillan is a capable big ten offensive lineman.
Indeed
this is going to come down to the battle at the line. If our DL can shake up Foles, I think we stand an excellent chance of winning…especially if our OL can hold off the Arizona DL long enough for Stanzi to find receivers or for our RBs to find the gaps.
KLUG
I think Karl Klug’s quickness versus that massive guard could be interesting. I’d line Klug up against him on passing downs and see if the guy can keep up with him.
I check cheddar like a food inspector
Last year Klug OWNED that RG
I remember one of Klug’s sacks. He literally bullrushed the guard straight back into the backfield and sacked the QB all while carrying this RG along for the ride. And Klug is now bigger, stronger, more experienced and flat out better than he was this time last year.
I’m sure AZ will gain some ground and will win some one-on-one match ups. But on balance Iowa’s D-Line wins this game.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Sep 17, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the key to the game
will be which team will be the best at converting 3rd and short. This keeps the defense on the field in the heat, and the winner of the 4th quarter will likely depend on who has the fresher defense.
Heat will not be an issue
Kickoff temp is projected at 92 degrees. As someone from Iowa that moved to Arizona and played endurance-related sports in their heat (soccer) at midday in the summer, 92 degrees and no sun is not “heat”. When you factor in the low humidity, it’s equivalent to about 65 to 70 degrees and sunny in Iowa. Believe me, I don’t deal with heat well (have passed out from dehydration before) so I know what I’m talking about here.
By halftime, it’s supposed to be 85 degrees. You might see some guys put on long sleeves…
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
This.
What is the big deal about heat? The high is set at 104-ish. That’s at three o’clock in the afternoon. Six and a half hours later, after about two hours of darkness, it will be in the mid-to-upper 80s. Check out this site. What I’m trying to say is that it gets really hot and really humid in August in Iowa, so a night game in Arizona shouldn’t be too rough, weather-wise.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
I think
the team that can most consistently achieve third and short will prevail. If Foles is consistently facing third and 8, Iowa’s defense will eat his lunch. Likewise, if Stanzi is facing the same situation it probably means that Arizona his containing our running attack.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
31-17.
Close game until the fourth quarter when Iowa’s offense starts to roll a valiant but tired Arizona defense.
Tom Bradley's fortune cookie says: "Best defense is good offense."
Beat Kent State.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 17, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions
Yep, that's my score too.
"We'll outfit ya for free, but we get to choose the pants."
by Bucketochicken on Sep 17, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
31-17 here too
I just can’t see Arizona’s DT and LB’s stopping the running game up the middle enough. Same formula as last week against ISU, just with us facing a better offense and secondary. Assuming we can execute like we did on our first 2 drives against ISU, there is no way Arizona’s stopping our offense
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Sep 17, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
As I stated in Ross' fear post, 41-17 Iowa
KF is gonna bring the rain.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Sep 17, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
No! No rain in the desert!
Have you no memory at all, man?!?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 17, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Not real rain.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Sep 17, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't let KOK bring the rain;
he may get confused.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 17, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
That was incredible.
Now try all three. I’m having acid flashbacks again.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
Tom Bradley's fortune cookie says: "Best defense is good offense."
Beat Kent State.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 17, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So much better:
Tom Bradley's fortune cookie says: "Best defense is good offense."
Beat Kent State.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 17, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he meant
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Sep 17, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I HATE THAT SONG
I rarely root for drug overdoses, but in the case of Blind Melon all I can say is “GO HEROIN!”
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You guys are giant pussies.
36-7.
Zona and Iowa have their back ups in by 4th quarter.
Bring on the pain…….
The constant talk of short passing games
reminds me of my old NCAA Football (PS2) strategy…I could do two things well…throw the ball deep to big receivers and cover the deep ball with my safeties (I’m still the only person I’ve ever seen play defense with the FS on every snap)…essentially both came down to my ability to win 75% of jump balls.
Every one of my friends would claim that they knew exactly how to beat me…quick passing plays underneath that my safety couldn’t get to…and pound the ball on the ground. Needless to say…no one…and I mean no one…was ever patient enough to pull that off.
The key to it all…quick scores. My average drive was probably 4 plays and I scored on almost every drive. So even if you were matching me score for score…you still felt like you were behind…eventually you started trying to go over the top and that’s when it got ugly. Rarely did I get to play an entire game against a human opponent.
It’s not an exact correlation…but the moral of the story is that if we can come out and move the ball methodically against them early…we could be looking at blowout city. I just hope Arizona doesn’t “accidentally hit the reset button” shortly into the 3rd quarter.
Iowa 27, Arizona 13
Last year, Arizona faced six defenses ranked in the top 50 in scoring defense: Central Michigan, Iowa, UCLA, Arizona State, USC, and Nebraska. All six teams held them below 30 points. Most held them to 20 points or lower.
Central Michigan: 17.2 ppg avg (14th in nation); gave up 19 pts to AZ
Iowa: 12 ppg avg (10th in nation); gave up 17 to AZ
UCLA: 21.3 ppg avg (33rd in nation); gave up 27 pts to AZ
Arizona St: 21.2 ppg avg (29th in nation); gave up 20 pts to AZ
USC: 20.4 ppg avg (23rd in nation); gave up 21 pts to AZ
Nebraska: 11.2 ppg avg (2nd in nation); gave up 0 pts to AZ
Only UCLA allowed more points than their season average to Arizona. Yes, the Arizona offense improved after Foles took over — only an idiot would argue that he’s not far more capable than Scott — but it also bogged down consistently and repeatedly against high-level defenses.
So to me this game comes down to a few questions:
One, is Arizona’s offense improved from what it was last year? They’ve rolled up points so far, but Toledo is terrible and The Citadel isn’t even a decent I-AA squad. They blew up on bad defenses last year, too, only to get stoned by good defenses. Related question: has Arizona figured out how to handle physical, aggressive teams? They couldn’t last year, which is why they lost most of the games they did. There’s been talk all week from their side that they have sorted that out, but talk’s cheap. It’s one thing to say you’ve figured it out and to go out and pounce all over Toledo or The Citadel; it’s another thing to do it against a team like Iowa.
Two, does Iowa have a high-level defense? I think we’d all say “yes.” Most of the yardage and points they’ve conceded this year has come off freak plays or against second/third-string defenders. Shutting down Iowa State’s offense seems a bit more impressive than disemboweling the defenses of Toledo or The Citadel. Mind you, the x-factor here could be Norm Parker or the lack thereof. Has his absence been a distraction? Has it kept Iowa from formulating its usual rock-solid defensive gameplan? I won’t lie: that does give me cause for concern. But ultimately this defense seems so strong and so experienced that I think they can overcome that problem.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
With respect to Norm Parker - who is a tremendous (tremendous fight win tremendous) Dc
I think the strength and intelligence of Iowa’s defense goes beyond one man. Not to discount his absence, of course.
Tom Bradley's fortune cookie says: "Best defense is good offense."
Beat Kent State.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 17, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
*AGREED* id love to have norm travel to az but
our team is going down there with norms staff, and a defense that has a lot of experience playing under him. i dont think anyone will even notice hes not there based on our play on the field.
3rd quarter banter from the booth guaranteed to include at least three comments about how amazing it is our defense is able to play without norm in tow this week.
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
did they talk about it last week?
Since he missed the last two days of practice and was still in the hospital during the game?
by PackerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 11:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think this is the biggest thing that's discounted
He wasn’t there for the game (LBs Coach called the plays) but you wouldn’t have been able to tell watching the defense fly around.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Sep 17, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
It really is the advantage of our defensive scheme
It is very similar to the offense, we run fewer plays better. Our basic set on defense is going to be the same all game. Norm would set the plan (which he is most likely doing in the hospital) and then the other coaches get it translated to the field. Finally I would say that Norm didn’t spend a whole bunch of time on EIU and ISU in the film room and concentrated on AZ. My guess is he knew what he wanted to do prior to going into the hospital and has passed that onto the assistants.
I hope his health improves and that he has taught his assistants well. Not having him there for the week of practice is more of a concern for me than him not being at the game and lack of Coach Parker is my biggest worry for the game, it just isn’t that big of a worry.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
and lack of Coach Parker
Next Parker in, Phil!
In all seriousness, if Norm was going to miss some time around the team, this is the defense and staff you would want. Everybody has been in the system for so long, that they should be able to execute the plan without Norm being on the field for practice or a walk-through.
Next man in
It’s unfortunate that that meme died. I like it, quite a bit. Also, I like Iowa’s chances here. After all, U of I definitely does NOT stand for University of Illinois. This staff has been constant for quite awhile, and I’m looking forward to seeing how they perform.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
Next meme in
Memes die, but you gotta keep on playin.
by HawkeyeInExile on Sep 17, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but
he had been there for most of the practices that week. This week, Norm hasn’t been there at all. I trust the staff, I really do, but Norm’s absence this entire week is a much bigger cause for concern than I think a lot of us are acknowledging.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Indeed.
We’re probably going to get a crash course in what a defense planned and coordinated by Phil Parker or Darrell Wilson looks like. On the plus side, I don’t think they could ask for a better squad of players than the ones they’re inheriting. You have guys with loads of experience along the defensive line and in the secondary (aside from Hyde) and even the “new” linebackers have been around for a while — they’ve been on road games, they’ve seen live-game action before. As a unit, this defense has seen a lot of different offenses and been to a lot of different stadiums and done pretty well. That all certainly gives me some level of comfort.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
a crash course in what a defense planned and coordinated by Phil Parker or Darrell Wilson looks like
And given their time in the system, it might look very, very familiar. I’ not sure if they’ll change very much. Also, it’s an offensive scheme they’ve seen before. There will obviously be tweaks, but it’s not like they’re prepping for a pistol offense that they have no video of.
No, I don't expect any wild changes.
We aren’t going to start blitzing like crazy just because Norm isn’t there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
what's this word you speak of?
Blitzing? It doesn’t register with me.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the thing we seemed to like to do last year with Spievey
but only when he was on the sideline and vacated his guy for a 6 yard gain to be cleaned up by a safety.
I got blitzed Saturday night
I think he’s speaking of a nasty mix of Crown Royal, Peach Schnapps and Red Bull.
(I think that’s what’s in a Vegas Bomb)
the 9th reindeer….on Donder and Blitzing.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Yep, Donner.
Because in German they translate to Thunder and Lightning. Hooray useless knowledge!
"we're the only team in the state, as far as I know."
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Sep 17, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That's when you send all four linemen after the QB, right?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 17, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
All 4
at the same time? That’s hardly sporting
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 17, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I think "blitzing" might have to do with . . .
eating a lot of danishes.
by The Final Gun on Sep 17, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Blitzing?
Didn’t that happen in 1939? And 1940? And 1941? But it was that damn European football, with the weird field and the guns.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
The things on your feet are TOEs
not tows.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
and if i would typed "TOEs"
you ass holes woulda told me i spelled it wrong :)
thanks
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. There really was no winning for you on that one
Glad you took one for the team and made the joke anyway.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be highly surprised if Norm hasn't been watching film in his hospital room since LAST Thursday.
Game plan for ISU was done, what else is he gonna do?
It’s Norm for christ sakes, he had the I.V. needle doing cut backs behind an OLine of surgical instruments, against an all pain pill AZ defense.
I can imagine the report that KF got on Tues or Wed.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 17, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
For what it's worth...
was a great song by Buffalo Springfield.
Kirk Ferentz said that he has visited Norm in the hospital and that they did not discuss the gameplan and that Norm has not been involved. Now…whether we are to believe that those two spent any amount of time together and didn’t discuss the game…I don’t know…I couldn’t see it either way.
So, you're saying Norm has had AZ figured out all summer...
…and there was no need to talk football.
Got it. That makes me feel better.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 17, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know one way or the other
I’m just relaying info that I heard regarding Norm’s involvement this week. Given the continuity of our coaching staff over the years I’m guessing that there are plenty of assistants in our system that understand Norm’s defensive concepts and can emulate the gameplan that Norm consistantly puts forth.
Honestly I think that Norm does a lot less “figuring out” of the other team that many people would believe and it’s moreso that he does a better job preparing his players to play his defense rather than to counter the other team’s offense. Clearly the Orange Bowl was an instance where Norm did some “figuring out” but I’m just not sold that Arizona’s offense is different enough to necessitate “figuring out”.
we figured it out once
we have had a how-to manual since the holiday bowl…
take some time off norm, you deserve it!
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Which ever coach calls the D...
he won’t call it with the philosophy “What would Norm do?” but rather “Here’s what I’m doing based on ten years learning from Norm.”
(Of course, I’ve always like the out-of-nowhere unexpected full blitz. Kind of like a sword in a bulls neck) But that’s just me.
Sword in a bulls neck?
That’s not surprising. Surprising is a bull in an arena’s grandstands.
by The Mexican't on Sep 17, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
For What It's Worth
Is a great song.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
I would so want to see this in picture form.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Sep 17, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
For everyone who seems confident that Norm's absence won't be a problem . . .
If (big if) we do lose tomorrow . . . will you change your mind?
by The Final Gun on Sep 17, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on how the D looked
If we lose 17-14 with a Rick-Six and a couple of fumbles in our own territory, then no. If we lose 31-27, then yes.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Sep 17, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
If the defense looks out of sorts, then I would be inclined to think that Norm’s absence was a big loss. If the defense looks pretty good but we wind up losing because of some turnovers or a few freak plays, I would think a little differently.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I hear each member of the D-line
will have one of Norm’s toes hanging from their necks for good luck.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 17, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank god Norm didn't have hemorrhoids
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
The takeaway from this
Is that last year Arizona had an average or slightly above average offense.
But, against CMU and Iowa, they were starting Scott. Against ASU and USC they were on the road. And except for the Iowa game, they won all those games, which means they got all the points they needed.
But that was last year. They should be much improved this year. They get most of their weapons back, and they have a massive O-line. And of course they are at home, and will be totally jacked up for this game.
After the ISU game, I was pretty certain that Iowa is the 3rd best team in the country right now. After watching it again, I’m not certain – ISU had a pretty poor defense, no pass rush, and no linebackers. Arnaud is not very good and he got no help from his receivers. And our O-line is still a work in progress, and our receivers are good but a good secondary can shut them down somewhat.
But that being said, I’m pretty sure Iowa has the best defense in the country, as there is no weak link. Our D-line and our safeties may be the best in the country (not necessarily in NFL talent, but as college units). Our CB’s and our linebackers are very good, and with good health and experience may be great units soon if not now.
So I think this game will be similar to the Orange Bowl. Like G-Tech, this Arizona offense that is pretty good and thinks it is pretty good is going to run into a buzzsaw. Foles will be pressured, their receivers will be hit, and Iowa will have some good drives but also struggle at times on offense. And Stanzi will make some mistakes.
But when the game is over, I think it will be clear who is the better team, and the score will be closer than the game. Iowa 27-13.
Agreed on Defense.
Amazingly solid college D, certainly pro talent in there as well. At least on CBS, we have several players ranked as potential draft picks:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings?&1:col1=5&start_row=851
Not quite like Bama or anything, but Iowa will be represented well this year it looks like. Also interesting to see where Stanzi is ranked.
Good link
How often are these updated?
Looking at ISU, Arnaud has a big red down-arrow next to his name. Simms has one too. What’s that mean? Will there be more of these red arrows next to Arizona players next week?
Interesting that the #1 ranked punter is a 6th round choice. I guess you sacrifice a little cash to avoid a lot of contact.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not sure how frequently they are updated (perhaps a CBS writer would know..), but I think they give a pretty good indication of potential picks. Clearly it is updated as least weekly, as Iowa State had a poor recent showing.
As for the arrow, it’s labeled as "stock", or probably a vague idea of public perception. I assume we will start to see more green for Iowa as the season progresses.
It would be fantastic to see AC be the first overall pick. Talk about great press for Iowa. Even number too, as he is currently listed, would be very exciting.
hahahah
poop jokes.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I love how they have the Ryan Donohue's 40 time listed.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
When I saw that play happen, it was like there was a blank wall in my mind and the wall was covered with a picture of Kirk Ferentz and a bunch of question marks.
?
Tom Bradley's fortune cookie says: "Best defense is good offense."
Beat Kent State.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 17, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
id had a lot of beer....
it took me about 5X of looking to realize there werent photoshop seams and this actually happened… then i was like ‘oh yeah, wow, that actually happened’
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
that play was stupifying...
KF needs to get his head examined if we see that kind of knucklehead call again. Just sent Stanzi out and go for it. Or line up Chaeny at kicker at least.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Whatever, Murray was a wicked spin move away from scoring
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Sep 17, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't hit the O button.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Right, he was pressing a button
but it was the start (pause) button.
I actually liked the call, if for no other reason than it will be a reminder of why we don’t do trick plays. If we execute, we don’t need a BSU hook and lateral.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
And if we need one
We’re proper fucked, then, aren’t we? Damn kickers can’t even press O right.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
It worked out OK for Murray
as he actually hit “up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start”. So he got tackled, but he’s got another 29 lives.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 18, 2010 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions
YES!
Are you off work for the game tonight?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Sep 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Contra rocked
Probably played that game more than any other game I’ve owned. I actually played it again a few years ago with a friends’ wife that had over 150 NES games (the wife that is- my friend didn’t play games at all). She didn’t know there was a code. I couldn’t remember it until I held the controller, then I just entered it without thinking. Good times.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 18, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
My take away is that the coaches do a pretty good job
of preparing for the starting QB. What little problem had with Foles was that they preped for Scott and it took a few reps to adjust. Look back to the starting QB’s that Iowa bounced to the bench last year; if I am worried about any QB it is the guy that replaces Foles when Stoops pulls him in the third quarter.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Offense Wins the Press, but Defense Wins Championships
Iowa’s defense is the reason we have been competitive consistently over the last several years. Arizona has yet to face a great, or even good, defense this year. Arizona will dink and dunk, but when it comes down to it, this defense will be stifling.
I may love the Steelers, but I live and die by my Hawkeyes.
by HawkeyeFrake on Sep 17, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
and Arizona's lost seven starters
with everyone gone in the middle of the field. They are going to be a step up on ISU but we should be able to blow holes for the two headed monster we have at running back to get though.
Question – If Iowa lost seven starters on defense would we even be in the pundit’s conversation for this game ? We would have less chance then they think we do now. Most of the talking heads know nothing about defense unless they see someone really, really fast. They can comment about offense, there are stats to look up, but defense is a swirling vortex of stupidity. There is a reason that Mel Kiper comments on interior linemen, he knows football/football players and Todd McShay comments on skill players – he really doesn’t understand what interior linemen do or what a good one looks like on a consistent basis.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
small correction needed, however. Fixed’d
There is a reason that Mel Kiper comments on interior linemen, he knows football/football players and Todd McShay comments on skill players – he really doesn’t understandwhat interior linemen dofootball or what a good one looks like on a consistent basis
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
thanks for cleaning that up for me
you’re correct – much better now
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
My biggest concern about the Arizona offense
is a motivated Grigsby. I’d be shocked if he hasn’t seen the footage of Clayborn chasing him down from behind a dozen times or more. It’s going to be up to our Linebackers to maintain great gap discipline and also watch out for the quick, short passes that Foles throws that often lead to big gains.
My biggest area of hope also pertains to this last point; because Foles has such a strong arm and because many of the Arizona routes are quick and short, our D-linemen, who excel getting their arms up, should be able to deflect a number of his line-drive passes. This bodes well for our ball-hawking secondary.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 17, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
About the D-Line
I agree that is the biggest difference. As a pocket passer Foles needs a window to throw through. I don’t see him getting clear looks into the flat.
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 17, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I don’t think it was just coach speak when Ferentz said he was hoping Grigsby turned pro. He broke a very big one against us last year that fortunately only led to 3 points…but even against our defense he is capable of breaking big ones. I don’t see him being able to consistently gain nice chunks on our defense but he is definitely capable of testing the pursuit ability of our linebackers and secondary. Fortunately…Sash has been flying around the field this year like a man possessed.
He's certainly capable of breaking loose
and I defiinitely fear what he can do. It’s worth noting, however, that the one long run Grigsby had last season (which was basically his only contribution all day) was greatly aided by a pretty blatant hold by the Arizona WR on either Prater or Spievey that the refs missed.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Motivation doesn't always equal success for RB's
or much for ANY skill position on Offense. It seems to help other positions more (take your choice of defensive positions) by giving them that extra boost to shed a block, jump an inch higher to block a punt, etc.
Example- Jewel certainly had a LOT of motivation going into last week’s game and it looked like it just made him impatient. If there’s no hole in front of you, it doesn’t matter how hard/fast you slam into your own OLineman.
Now, if he can motivate his OL, it’s more of a concern.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree, Robinson appears motivated
I think Robinson has shown what motivation, protecting starting position, can do for a RB. He has trucked and run through so many tackles this young season. Don’t confuse motivation with hyperactive about playing for first time in 20 months. Not that is over, expect Jewel to run motivated to win the starting job back and more patient.
quote forthcoming
Kyle,
Are you saying that Grigsby was not motivated last year? or do you think the Iowa Defense will lack motivation this year?
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
I think last year Grigsby looked
like he’d heard a lot about how great Grigsby was.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 18, 2010 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I will say..
Foles looked better throught the year, but against Iowa his stats really weren’t much better than Scott in the end. I don’t remember when the switch happened in the game, to be honest, but the stats show that Foles was barely over 50% and only had 55 yards (obviously the TD/INT difference is nice). Help me understand, and I’m geuninely confused and barely remember the game anymore…
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
N. Foles 6/11 55 5.0 1 0
M. Scott 4/14 50 3.6 0 1
Agree... and wonder...
Stats were not much better and Scott did provide dual threat that you don’t see with Foles. Wonder if Stoops pulled the plug to early. Maybe Scott would have had same or more success against non-Iowa defenses. Regardless, I’d rather face Foles because he is one dimensional. He will get pounded and wouldn’t doubt it if we saw the back up QB from AZ in this one again.
quote forthcoming
It should be noted that the Iowa defense
gave up 10 points to Arizona, not 17.
a 2nd quarter field goal, and a garbage 4th quarter td.
1:53 left on the clock in the 4th when they made their first offensive trip into the end zone.
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
The announcers said time and time again
How Iowa is a fast defense, much faster than they thought or saw prior. Also AZ’s offense wasn’t doing anything until Foles came in, when the score was 27-10.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
True . . . .
But Iowa also stopped a 4th and Goal.
That should have been an additional scoring drive.
Actually...
Iowa stopped them from the one, they settled for field goal on 4th and goal from 3. Later they had 4th and 2 from iowa’s 23 that failed.
quote forthcoming
line moved
from +1 to -1 overnight. don’t really like seeing that. hopefully it’s just west coast money coming in and not the sharps.
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Sep 17, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions
Sharps usually bet early or wait for big movement in the line
This was most likely squares…it’s a good chance that we’ll see that line move back now.
That line movement was all Dr. Bob
Nobody can move a line like him. To the extent “the public” had anything to do with it, it was the people who subscribe to and/or follow him.
That being said, I think the consensus from the professional handicappers (like LVSC, the books, i.e. the ones who really know what they are talking about) is that the game is a pickem. That is why they made Iowa a slight favorite. I’m pretty sure there is no way they think Iowa is a big favorite.
And, while they probably know slightly less about Iowa than us diehards, they know much more about Arizona, much more about the circumstances related to this game, and are looking at this objectively, which we certainly are not.
So in spite of my optimism and certainty of our superiority, I am very concerned for this reason alone.
Well said . . .
I take some solace in the fact that betting Iowa vs. the line the last three years has been an incredible winner (~70%). But that’s certainly not a a good system. If you bet teams that have been doing well against the line, you’ll end up broke pretty fast. Vegas adjusts.
by The Final Gun on Sep 17, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
how many games were we dogs last year?
PSU, Wisconsin, MSU, OSU (alright, I’ll can give you that one). We seem to do pretty well on the road ATS.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Which three did we lose?
Lazy guy here.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
I would guess the close ones against the inferior opponents
Ark St for sure
jNW for sure
UNI (unless there wasn’t a spread due to FBS)
MIchigan (maybe)
would the spread against Minny have been more than 12?
by HawkeyeRecon on Sep 17, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry for not "showing my work."
Never was very good at that in school…
We were favored in all of our home games.
We went 3-3 ATS at home. Losses:
Arkansas State (-20.5)
jNW (-16.5)
Michigan (-8)
The Minnesota spread was -9.5.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 18, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
So for those not keeping track...
That means we were 6-0 ATS on the road.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 18, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Methinks I was the lazy one
Opening a new tab with Google is too hard. Thank you for that, by the way.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
In terms of the spread, the jNW game has become what the ISU game was until the last two years...
A ludicrously high spread that Iowa won’t come close to covering, assuming we don’t just lose it outright.
Hell, 16.5? How many teams did we beat by 17+ last year? ISU and Indiana?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It was looking like we might cover it
right up to the point Ricky went down.
I’m glad we’re bucking last years’ trend on margin of victory so far.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 18, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the media
hammering away, spouting everywhere that Iowa is going to get beat has the pleabs pouring money into the Vegas coffers. If you go to TWWL, CFN (sucks), or NBC Sports they act like this is AZ’s big party and Iowa is just the +1 on the invite.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
Why do you guys continue to bring up last year's Arizona team and game?
The team you all saw in Iowa last year is nothing like the team we have now.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
Is it like the team that got shit-stomped by Nebraska in the Holiday Bowl?
Because I’ll take my chances with that Arizona team, too.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That Iowa team that played Arizona
Didn’t have Bulaga, Moeaki, DJK or Hampton. Our three best offensive players last year and our expected starting running back. And we still scored 27 points, and AZ lost 7 defensive starters.
It's not that one either,
Look, Arizona hasn’t been relevant in college football for a decade. They weren’t ready for a bowl game last year, and they’re not making that mistake again.
It’s a different team now. They didn’t really lose anyone from last year, and every player is much more developed both mentally and physically. In the long run of things, I think the Nebraska loss will actually help our guys more than hurt them.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
honest question
How is this years defense compared to last years defense going into the Iowa game. I know the consensus is that the new guys are pretty solid, but they are new.
And you lost an elite DT, along with another solid DT. And all your linebackers. So how do they compare?
We obviously haven’t seen much as the starters have been out by the 3rd quarter against Toledo and Citadel, but it seems like the linebackers haven’t lost much. Fisher and Earls are both very quick, and while they’re a little undersized, they make up for it with their instincts and ability around the ball.
The loss of the DTs hurts the line a bit, but our scheme seems to be much more built around the DEs. Obviously the guys up the middle play a big role in controlling the run game, and neither Toledo or Citadel played the power football that Iowa will bring.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Ummm...huh?
So you tell us this isn’t the same team as last year…presumably insinuating that they are better…then you give us an explanation that they haven’t lost much at LB…and even though they lost a fair amount at DT they are going to be able to just scheme around the loss.
We get it…this isn’t the same team as last year…neither is Iowa…our RBs look a lot better and Ricky Stanzi looked terrible pretty much throughout the Arizona game last year and has gotten considerably better.
In what ways is Arizona different…and better?
They are at home and Iowa is on the road
That can make a huge difference.
I don't think that AZ has that big of a home advantage
atleast not for crowd noise.. There will likely be 10,000+ hawks there.
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 17, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You all keep saying 10,000+ fans. It’s not going to be that many. Probably more like 8,000.
Also, have you not heard the ZonaZoo at a big game? It’s the biggest student section in the Pac-10 and is one of the bigger ones in the country.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
We've played at Penn State, at night, during a whiteout
Your Zoo doesn’t scare us.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You’re right, but it sure as hell is going to affect you.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It will be interesting to see what the crowd is like
I think we’ll have more than 10,000 fans there…but no one really knows that yet. I keep hearing that Arizona has the 2nd best atmosphere in the Pac 10…it will be interesting to see how that compares with Big 10 atmospheres.
My guess is they are not as racous as:
Ohio St
Iowa
Wisconsin
Penn St
Probably on par with:
Michigan State
Michigan
Slightly better than:
fPurdue
Illinois
Minnesota
I’m going to pretend these teams don’t exist:
jNorthwestern
Indiana
I bet Michigan State is louder
I check cheddar like a food inspector
by SpanishJohnny on Sep 17, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Arizona Stadium is much closer to TCF Bank and Ryan Field than to a stadium worth getting nervous about
Michigan Stadium 109,901 Ann Arbor
Beaver Stadium 107,282 State College
Ohio Stadium 102,329 Columbus
Camp Randall 80,321 Madison
Spartan Stadium 75,025 East Lansing
Kinnick Stadium 70,585 Iowa City
Memorial Stadium 62,872 Champaign
Ross-Ade Stadium 62,500 West Lafayette
Arizona Stadium 57,803 Tucson
TCF Bank Stadium 50,805 Minneapolis
Memorial Stadium 50,180 Bloomington
Ryan Field 49,256 Evanston
I am not saying this will be an Iowa cake walk but if Zona fans think this team will be intimidated or even fazed by 45K opposing fans (10K+ Iowa transplants and fans) they have been drinking the Koolade.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Autzen seats 54K and Reser sits at just under 45K.
No, Arizona is not those places, but a crowd can be intimidating without being huge.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 17, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Fixed this for you
Ryan Field 49,256 26 Evanston
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
Perhaps, but Illinois fucking sucks.
And I haven’t been anywhere near Minneapolis since the Bank opened on a football Saturday, so I’ll withhold opinion.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
fPurdue
OUR MOST HATED RIVALS!
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I have seen and heard Iowa play student sections at Camp Randall, Happy Valley, and Columbus.
They didn’t seem too fazed. Two of those student sections were pretty quiet by the time the fourth quarter rolled around.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Can you post a source for this stat?
I’ve googled everything I can think of and I still can’t find anything that backs up the “largest student section in the Pac-10” claim. fO$U has something like 29K, which would be half your stadium. We’ve seen 29K a couple of times in our history, if you care to check out our past schedules. I get the feeling that your student section and our cadre of Hawk fans might just cancel each other out.
by Frankeinstein on Sep 17, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
no, but
the travel, the time, and the heat and the fact that AZ will be jacked will all be a factor.
Fortunately we have a veteran team, an experienced qb, experience with night games, and we had a very hot August.
Experience
I can say after having lived in both Tucson and Iowa City that 104 and no humidity beats the piss out of 90 and 90% humidity. Plus Iowa will be in white as compared to Arizona who I assume will either be wearing dark blue or red as it’s a “red out”. I wonder how a red out looks with 10,000 fans wearing gold?
by 2BlocksFromKinnick on Sep 17, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Like Trice does when Nebraska is in town?
by PackerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
I'm upgrading you to the VIP suite at the McCann't Hotel.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 18, 2010 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions
:-(
Hey!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Really I just mean my son's room.
Unless you were going to use that toy train set.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 18, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
What time does the first live thread go up?
It’s going to be a long day of drinking and football.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Ugh.
Leaving for Madison right now on 4 hours of sleep.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 18, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
30 minutes.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Not a factor
Game-time temp is 92. At 92 and no sun?? No issue.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you been to the midwest in the summer?
I’ll take Arizona 90° over Iowa 80° plus 90% humidity anyday. It’s not like our boys have been at two-a-days in an air conditioned spa all summer
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
Umm…well, Nick Foles is the starting QB instead of Matt Scott. That’s kind of a big difference.
The game is also at Arizona Stadium. We’ve been great there the last few years.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
How many does AZ stadium hold?
And i think you underestimate how many Iowa fans will be there. I have 8 friends living in AZ that all got a hold of tickets.
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 17, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
They've added seats in the last few years to prepare for the renovation they're doing in 2012
And I’m thinking it’s close to 60,000 if they really cram everyone in there, which they’ll do.
I remember seeing Oregon brought about 8,500 fans last year, which was an absolutely crazy game, and that filled up the entire visiting team section, and then a few parts of the upper deck.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Given that this is the most expensive ticket on your schedule
and that schedule includes Arizona State and USC…I’m guessing they’re expecting a lot of Iowa fans and I don’t think we’ll disappoint them.
On that note
Here is an interesting article by a free-lance scout for the NFL draft, who follows and reports on Iowa, along with some other schools about a key matchup:
I'm not trying to be a dick (cause you're being civil), but if you have undersized linebackers...
…mark my words, if things go as I think they will, one of your LBs is going to get trucked by Jewel, and another one is going to get run over by one of our road-grader linemen (I’ll guess Ferentz) who get to the secondary very quickly.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 17, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then,
I guess we’ll see tomorrow night.
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
on that note
mad props to little ferentz. his last name could be poop and hed still be a draw to start up front. and thats against a sr who who beat a ford f-150. what a horse.
the only way our offense is pressured is if their d line literally takes the field driving pickup trucks. which we have experience against. i still like our chances.
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa wins 24-10
Foles has problems keeping the O on the field due to rushed throws and lack of throwing lanes. Iowa’s D-Line is as good as advertised and they control the game.
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 17, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
anyone know who has the call on espn?
by 2BlocksFromKinnick on Sep 17, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
I was under the impression ...
that Darrell Wilson called the defense last week.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Sep 17, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions
35-10 HERE TOO
I have been thinking this all along. I see the inside guys brushing and blowing past the big boys just like they did against Wiscy.
The coaching staff
is prepared for Norm’s absence, I feel. He wasn’t there for the ISU game, but I don’t know if most people would have been able to tell. It’s happened before, and Kirk et al rarely get burned the same way twice. They acknowledge the team wasn’t ready at all for ASU when we got our asses handed to us.
Nice chatting with you all
BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
I have to applaud your willingness
to walk into the wasp’s nest at a time when they’re already agitated and your ability to keep it classy.
thanks for stopping by
always appreciate an outside opinion!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Is every Arizona fan
taking the biggest shit of their life or what? I don’t understand this “bear down” shit. No pun intended…
by 2BlocksFromKinnick on Sep 17, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that's classy...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Down
'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike
by Scott Coleman on Sep 17, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
In other news...
popular Iowa student athlete Ricky Stanzi starts rally cry that’s waaayyy cooler than that.
by 2BlocksFromKinnick on Sep 17, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the perspective, mate
Always good to hear from the enemy of the state that is our opponent’s fans.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
Depth chart note
Contrary to your above depth chart analysis, Mr. Paki O’Meara is still listed as an “OR” with Hampton. We would not want to have an inaccurate PAKIBOMB alert level now.
Holding steady at Orange.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Paki was co-second string last week and we all saw what that meant
I think this this is just Kirk’s way of respecting Paki’s hard work
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Probably true. Plus, Jewel's only been back for a game.
I’d give Jewel a week or two on his own and we’ll probably see it listed as “Robinson, Hampton.”
Or “Hampton, Robinson” if Jewel just goes bananas over the next few weeks.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
IMO if the heats going to be a problem for anyone it will be Jewel
The worst part of not being in “football” shape and not used to getting hit is that it tires you out faster. Add the heat and Paki might see a little more time.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
It hits red when he lines up in the backfield.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Does it count if we are up big?
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Technically, yes.
But no one cares, because we are up big. At that point Paki just becomes a human victory cigar, which is fine.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Victory Cigar?
Paki = Mistakes Cigars
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
All you sniffling indie kids
HOLD STEADY
I check cheddar like a food inspector
by SpanishJohnny on Sep 17, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
As much as I love the color system...
I’ve recently been using the Pak-Con 1/2/3/4/5 with my compatriots.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Sep 17, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the same team
That comment goes both ways.
Last year Iowa was still trying to find a rb. And Robinson has improved vision and strength this year. Plus jewel
last year Iowa was without bulaga Richardson was iffy the line was somewhat untested but with much less continuity
Stanzi was still learning how to take calculated risks. We gave you 7 points
defensively. The game last year was clayborns coming out party. No intorduce much improved Ballard and klug with the freaky arms of binns +depth
lb we seem to be pretty good here this year and there is no difference in safety except 10 more games played
The only position with any drop off. Although will it matter if files is running for his life
Plus don’t expect a return on kickoff. No humidity meyers puts every kick in the end zone.
while I agree your team improved in some areas. Iowa has made some drastic improvements. Case and point compare the offensive stats from the first two games last year to now. Have fun in your zoo which is a terrible come back. PAC 10 <> big ten stadiums student section and therefore home field advantage
by o-lineu on Sep 17, 2010 12:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Excuse typing errors
Stupid phone
by o-lineu on Sep 17, 2010 12:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
A coin flip decision will decide this game...
I think this game will come down to who gets the ball first. If Iowa as often the case wins the flip and takes the ball, Iowa wins running away. The offense methodically scores taking over 7 minutes off the clock demoralizing AZ. Next thing Iowa is up 21-7 at the half and AZ plays catch up.
If AZ wins the toss and decides to take the ball, they might actually catch an Iowa team off guard, as stated Iowa regularly starts on offense. They score early and they trade scores the rest of the game giving who ever has the ball last the chance to win.
quote forthcoming
coin flip is key...
iowa loses toss, kicks
clayborn ripps foles limb from limb on opening drive
clayborn changes to #47, lines up as fullback, carries ball and 11 wildcats into end zone.
iowa up 7-0 with 10 min left in the first quarter
clayborn feasts on leftover meat from opening drive slaughter, prepares to go back on field
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That doesn't make sense.
O’Keefe doesn’t like giving the ball to the fullback.
Tom Bradley's fortune cookie says: "Best defense is good offense."
Beat Kent State.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 17, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not true.
He won’t let Ricky hand it off to the FB, but he can pass it to him on the FB release.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Sep 17, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
FB Adrian Clayborn would just rip the ball away from Stanzi
taking his arm with it.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Not true
We’ll get the ball either way. It’s scripted that way. We are the only team that chooses to receive when we win the coin toss. It’s so we KNOW what will happen. All part of the script.
Iowa wins toss, takes ball.
Iowa loses toss, AZ defers and Iowa takes the ball.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Except PSU in 2008
Iowa wins, defers.
by PackerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 5:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
, wins.
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
that was because the stadium wouldnt shut up.
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if AZ wins the toss
more often than not the other team defers to the second half and we take the ball to start the game.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Sep 17, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed this is typical, but
if I was a coach watching Iowa run the ball the way they have, and the middle of my defense is soft, I don’t take a chance with Iowa building momentum right out of the gate with a long sustained drive.
quote forthcoming
Agree that he might go this route for the reasons you outlined
But there is a reason that Iowa had that amazingly long streak of getting the ball first. Coaches like to get the ball first in the second half to set a tone for the rest of the game and try out any adjustments that they made. If I were an opposing coach, I would probably take the ball first just to throw Iowa off from what we’re used to.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Sep 17, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah because most coaches
would be chompin at the bit to face Clayborn and company to start a game.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Another reason AZ is likely to defer . . .
A riled up, raucous crowd has a much better impact on your defense than your offense.
They likely will be hoping to seize momentum early by forcing an Iowa three-and-out on the first series.
Iowa needs to at least get a couple first downs, if not score, on the first series, IMO.
Don't go long on first play...
Also, if O’keefe tries to catch AZ loading box early with long play action pass and they score. That would be nice, but AZ will be able to recover from that. With that being said, and reading more material. I don’t see how Iowa doesn’t win this by 21.
You would think Foles and AZ were some great team last year after Iowa, they went 6-4. Their defense is suspect and hasn’t proven anything. They lost their d-coordinator in offseason to FSU. I just don’t see how AZ stops Iowa and nothing has been said or shown that would suggest their offense will be any better against Iowa’s D.
I was also concerned about Parker’s absence since the last time they were in AZ he missed the game and we were blown out. Big difference is all of his assistants on D have been with the team since and developed into pretty cohesive group. Don’t see any drop off and ISU game provided opportunity to develop and learn in preparation as well.
quote forthcoming
I think they covered this pretty well on BTN last night.
On Behind the Schemes DiNardo talked about how Iowa continues to maintain run/pass balance whether they see seven or eight in the box. I thought it was interesting that the run play that he highlighted against the eight man front picked up more yards than the seven man front.
The upshot is that since the zone blocking scheme doesn’t open up a specific hole and the cutback is always available, loading the box may not be as advantageous for an opposing defense. Still, if Arizona wants to do it, fine. I like the idea of releasing Reisner down the middle in single coverage against a safety.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Sep 17, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
another great thing about 8 up front
If you can get by them, you are busting a big one. (See final 31 yard touchdown in Orange Bowl)
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
IOWA getting some love from the other kirk
on sports center… and a MAJOR rip on BSU. awesome.
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions
it was on tv
they had him in to rip on florida/urban collapse, and saturday matchups – if boise wasnt in the picture i dont think THE ONLY MATCHUP BETWEEN RANKED OPPONENTS would even make sports center. espn is pathetic!
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Well who doesn't love a shocker?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 17, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Biggest fear
Stanzi will see AZ’s red, white and blue uniformes and will confuse them with AMERICA. Rick Sixes will then ensue as he trys to help AMERICA win!
So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!
I've been at work fellas, what'd I miss?
I’m still standing by 24-3 Iowa. Offense wins games, defense sends players to the hospital.
There is actually a lot of
SWAGGER in here right now, a lot of us are picking pretty big wins.
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 17, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Tomorrow is going to be miserably long
Us in EST – will be sober, yard work, drunk, puking, sober, puking from nerves, drinking while hungover with two hours to go before kickoff.
I swear, if I can make it to halftime I will consider it a personal moral victory.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
My plan:
sleep all day, wake up at 5:30 pm and start ‘tailgating’ in preparation for a 10:30 start and stay up til 12pm Sunday morning in celebration.
Or…
Just get two cases of beer… 2 beers a hour for 24 hours. That oughta do it.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a marathon
not a sprint. You need to pace the drinking.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 17, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
i will be sprinting with the beer
the sooner i pass out, the more rest i get, the better i can handle such a late game out here in boston…
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean tonight?
By all means, go get blitzed.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
casual dirnking tonight, disaster tomorrow morning!
im thinkin its one of the few times i could get up at normal tailgating time, drink like crazy, sleep 8 hours, and still wake up in time to find out who else wont before we slaughter the wilcats…
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Appropriate pace?
One or 2 beers a hour?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Type of beer required for proper analysis...
Miller lite, 10 an hour. Templeton Rye better pace yourself, 1 every two hours.
quote forthcoming
Set your sights a bit higher.
Might I suggest this?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 18, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I googleed "There's A Game On Saturday?"
I didn’t find anything.
Well, that’s a lie. I found links to thing blog…
In heaven there is no beer. This isn't heaven, it's Iowa.
Iowa 24-21
That’s if we don’t turn the ball over. Arizona is better this year offensively, I think. They will score. Is our offense better than last year? I think that they will need to be better to win not only this game, but a number of upcoming ones. Everyoneis healthy, so no excuses on offense.
by GuttedSnowBird on Sep 17, 2010 2:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
They keep talking about how good there DE's are
but you can only disguise weaknesses for so long. If we can kick the ends out I could we will see a lot of yards between the tackles.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
Whats the over/ under on yards gained on draw plays
I could see KoK running that play on every 3rd down.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
I sure hope not. We ONLY run the draw
We ONLY run the draw when it’s 2nd or 3rd and 20+ yards.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
31-10 Iowa
Iowa’s offense is better, Zona’s D is actually worse than last year so we puts up 7 more. Iowa’s D is better, Zona’s offense is better so a push and Foles get a TD in garbage time, same as last year.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
Iowa is not perfect and they will have trouble along the way
Michigan State, Wisky, Ohio State and as usual, Penn State. But this weekend is a perfect match-up for us. Unless we are careless and simply play without the needed focus and emotion we will win in dominant fashion as we did last year, or perhaps even more so.
Iowa 31
Arizona 13
Foles is not ready for us…he hates to move his feet or be rushed.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Foles hates to be rushed
A sign of impatience. I once heard it said, and I don’t remember who said it, that a team has to be patient to beat the Hawkeyes. While I can’t attribute that ode to its proper owner, it is nonetheless very true.
Last year after Clark threw a TD pass on PSU’s first play from scrimmage I saw him give a guttural/primal scream of triumph. As soon as I saw that I told my sons in the room with me that Penn State was in trouble – they had already lost all patience.
Yes, a team has to be patient to beat the Hawkeyes; and I agree, Foles is not patient. Iowa wins 37-10.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Sep 17, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Slight correction
Foles is not ready for us…hehates tocan’t move his feet or be rushed
fix’d
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 17, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
“….he hates to move his feet or be rushed.” I’ll take your word this is true, and, if so, I think AZ’s in trouble on offense. Because if he’s hurried and hit with 4 rushing, there’s going to be passes to the good guys. I’m no good with predictions and am nervous about this game. That is nothing fucking new however.
Why is it that I agree with you on everything?
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Sep 17, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
SMA's a convincing guy
And he also knows his stuff.
I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker
Iowa 44-7
Arizona scores a meaningless TD with seconds left.
by salparadise23 on Sep 17, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
can we beat boise
on the trip home from az?
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yards charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Sep 17, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
I think we should beat the crap out of them on the way out there
They play at the same time we do. We let our backups beat the hell out of their starters (don’t want to tire our starters), then catch our flight to Arizona. While we’re woopin up on Az, Boise State gets taken down by Wyoming.
We’ll have to skip our second stringers in mop-up duty with AZ and go straight to 3rd string, the exception being Paki of course. He gets to beat BSU with the second stringers. He earned it.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Woops
They play at 8 EST, so they play before us. Doesn’t change the outcome though.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I wanna see Clayborn put his foot in Kellen Moore's 14 year old asshole.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Sep 17, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
good stuff
I laughed
I check cheddar like a food inspector
by SpanishJohnny on Sep 18, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Boise-schmoise
Boise State..man will that trend ever die? They should have lobbied to join the Pac 10..they they could play some real teams throughout the year. It was a joke when everyone starting singing National Title songs when they beat VT…only to see VT lose to James Madison the next week…chumps. I HATE Boise State. They are lucky they are from the potato state because I love potatoes..with butter and sour cream…otherwise i’d drop a Paki-bomb on their Looney Tunes looking field.
Half Hawkeye, Half Duhawk, all Iowa.
by DuHawkeye on Sep 17, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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