VIDEO: Optimism Personified
by Adam Jacobi on Sep 13, 2010 7:30 AM CDT
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op·ti·mism [op-tuh-miz-uhm]
-noun
- a disposition or tendency to look on the more favorable side of events or conditions and to expect the most favorable outcome.
- the belief that good ultimately predominates over evil in the world.
- the belief that goodness pervades reality.
- the doctrine that the existing world is the best of all possible worlds.
- this fucking guy.
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I think it was right after this
that the ISU band started the “Cyclone State” chant. Please leave our stadium.
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 13, 2010 7:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
For a moment
I was worried that ISU was mounting a comeback.
KOK, you might be a genius...
by hawkeye_heartattack on Sep 13, 2010 7:36 AM CDT reply actions
I had to watch the game at home
and when the camera panned to this guy I remember thinking, “what’s this guy gonna do, his team is getting rolled on national TV.” Then he busted that out. As was said in another thread – The dumb. It is strong with them.
During Ferentz first couple years as head coach
Iowa fans were also grateful for any sign of progress. While I have last a bit of respect for Rhodes since the ridiculous viral “I’m so proud of you speech”, he is a step up from Cheesick and in time may get this back to a competitive series. That said, keeping the starters in and running trick plays for the sole purpose of scoring a TD against Iowa’s 2nd or 3rd string is not indicative of a coach trying to build for the future but rather a guy fighting to keep his job.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Whether or not they scored a touchdown
one small fact remains eternally true…
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Sep 13, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Please
Rhoads took a team that was on a 10-game loser and got them to a bowl game. Regardless of who ISU beat last year, that’s a pretty impressive turnaround. Rhoads isn’t going anywhere just because his team got theirs asses kicked in a game where they were expected to get their asses kicked.
It seems like some of us Hawk fans are exhibiting selective memories. Brad Banks last throw as a Hawk was a touchdown, but it came at the end of the Orange Bowl against USC, and I think we all remember how one-sided that game was.
It's not as if those two situations are carbon copies.
It seems like some of us Hawk fans are exhibiting selective memories. Brad Banks last throw as a Hawk was a touchdown, but it came at the end of the Orange Bowl against USC, and I think we all remember how one-sided that game was.
I don’t totally agree with that, either, but at least you can plausibly argue that since it was Banks’ last game and a bowl game, leaving him in that long wasn’t going to hurt anything about the remainder of the season. Leaving Arnaud in for the entire game Saturday — the SECOND GAME OF THE SEASON — certainly posed a far greater risk for a miniscule reward.
If the tables were turned and Ferentz had done the same for Stanzi, he would be getting pilloried for it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I liked the Arnaud TD
What’s wrong with a 3-yr starter that bleeds his colors staying in to get a TD against his arch-rival that has not allowed that for his entire career?
He’s a senior, chose ISU over better programs because of his family legacy (both parents played there), he would regret it for the rest of his life if he never scored a TD against us to save some “pride”.
I find it similar to an aging vet that joins a good team for a chance at a ring. Nobody besmirches that..,
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Sep 13, 2010 1:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe if it were the last game of his career but
as has been said, the risk of injury weighed against the reward of a meaningless TD does not make much sense unless they figure the season is pretty much down the toilet either way.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
I think it was something to build on
for the rest of the season for them, even if it was against Gary Dolphin. Also KF specifically mentioned this in his presser saying the safety was out of position when they lined up and that’s something Iowa is going to have to work on this week.
It works out both ways, ISU has something to build on and Iowa has something to coach up this week. ISU winning helps strength of schedule, blah, blah, blah
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 13, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You, of course, are right and
I am suffering a bit from sour grapes. I really wanted to see them shut out the clones.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
I find it similar to an aging vet that joins a good team for a chance at a ring. Nobody besmirches that..,
That’s a pretty absurd stretch.
Look, it’s one thing for Arnaud to feel that way (although if he cares that much about scoring a TD against Iowa, he’s truly pathetic; no garbage-time TD is going to erase the fact that he was fucking terrible in three games against Iowa). It’s another thing for Rhoads to leave him out there that long when he has another ten games to play; it’s Rhoads’ job to be thinking about the team as a whole and the broader picture, not providing Arnaud with a “warm, fuzzy moment” of incredibly dubious value.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I agree with you 100%
They should have had their backup in there the entire 4th quarter getting experience for next year. Nothing was to be gained by AA getting hurt.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Sep 13, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Sports are played for the "warm fuzzy moments"
They’re recreation and entertainment. Put yourself in Arnaud’s shoes and I think you’d want that TD. And as his coach I’d let him get it.
I think the worry about getting injured is far outweighed by the legacy he takes away from his Cyclone career without that no-TD-vs-Iowa blemish, both in the memory of fans and in his own mind. That would absolutely be the second or third thing mentioned in any bio of him, now it’s not there. Kudos to him.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Sep 13, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
This isn't one of those "everyone gets a participation ribbon" sports
Give me a break. You act like he’s Byron Leftwich playing for the win with a broken leg. He got a garbage time touchdown. End of story. Arnaud would have to have the most selective memory in the history of selective memories to look back at his career and only remember that touchdown. For better or worse he’s going to remember his whole career of being owned by Iowa. There is no “warm and fuzzy moment” from getting that score. Everyone including the Iowa State offense, knows a touchdown against the back-ups to the back-ups is totally meaningless.
I gaurantee you that leaving Arnaud in had nothing to do with creating happy memories and everything to do with getting their offense more experience. Football coaches worry about educating their players. It’s about getting experience, not warm and fuzzy participation ribbons.
by HawkeyeInExile on Sep 13, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think I could disagree with you more if I tried.
The fact that he threw 9 interceptions against Iowa and was flat-out terrible against them the last three years is going to be a far more notable part of his legacy than a bullshit garbage time TD against 2nd/3rd string defenders.
Put yourself in Arnaud’s shoes and I think you’d want that TD.
Again: what Arnaud wants Does. Not. Fucking. Matter.
And as his coach I’d let him get it.
I’m glad you don’t coach a team I care about.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well
I guess I’m the only one with that opinion so I’ll just let it go. I thought I was high-roading it by being happy for a small victory for our thoroughly overmatched opponent, but apparently I’m just a sappy dork. I have to go now as it’s time for my weekly viewing of “Rudy”
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Sep 13, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
If we're going to have warm fuzzy moments
What about ISU’s 2nd and 3rd stringers, many of them Iowans, who will never get a chance to play in this game, a game that has been huge since their childhoods? Why don’t they deserve a chance to get on the field? Because poor little AA needed a booster shot of confidence getting TD versus guys Iowa was pulling in from the stands. It’s just pathetic.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Interesting side conversation...
…would the movie Rudy have been as feel good if Rudy had gotten in on the last couple plays because the Irish were getting totally blown out? If the only reason he sees the field is because his TEAM is having a lousy day, does it feel as good (for him OR for the viewer).
If, instead of screaming “I know that guy!”, D-Bob is out in the parking lot drinking away the memory of a terrible game… well you get my point.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 16, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Who said that Rhodes was going anywhere???
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
That was the
Funniest thing I heard all day. He was just being a smart ass. Kudos on a pretty witty/sarcastic comment
I'm buying my next home from JR Koch.
by greenadidmc on Sep 13, 2010 8:10 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
That was my take too.
Dude was utterly frustrated and snarky. The best (or only good, if you will) kind of ISU fan.
"There are no Pan Asian supermarkets down in hell, so you can't buy Golden Boy peanuts." - The Mountain Goats
Yea
Poor guy isn’t in college so he has been a fan of ISU for a number of years and has been dining on a shit sandwich since 2006. He is just enough of a smart ass to be welcome at my tailgate anytime.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 13, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I read it the same way
He seemed pretty self-aware.
Or maybe, he was on national TV, and just needed to say something appropriate. Who wants to be that fan, sporting your colors, who looking into the camera and says "too little, too late, wow we are awful".
I've never seen someone
so stoked to return to Ames.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Sep 13, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions
That wasn't that bad.
I wished they would’ve shown those kids in their ISU capes though. Epic Sad Pandas.
This guy is just very happy that they broke “the streak.” And at least he didn’t give you the #1 sign.
A Voice From Kinnick - A Hawkeye Blog
The kids in the capes were EPIC
It’s almost as if at the last minute they got out of line at the Super Hero convention and decided to go save the Clones. They have bigger balls than myself for going out in public like that.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Anyone got a pic of the Caped Crusaders to post?
I followed the game on the Internet, didn’t watch TV…
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Sep 13, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Scanning the ISU message boards (just reading, not trolling)
the predominant theme seems to be that ISU lost because Rhodes does not take this game seriously. He apparently was looking past Iowa toward the Kansas State game. As I shook my head, it struck me that I had similar complaints about Ferentz during his early years at Iowa. Does anyone really think either coach would be looking past this game?
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
had = heard
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
no
If Rhodes somehow wins this game, ISU gets a swagger injection that lasts for at least 2 years. He’s not stupid at all, he knows the importance of this game for ISU.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 13, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Regardless of how well ISU was prepared
Iowa was more prepared. Simple as that.
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Yeah but.....
….Seneca Wallace.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Yeah well...
…William Wallace.
(Maybe Rasheed Wallace?)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 13, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Sep 13, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
It isn't the predominant theme at all.
Unless you’re counting that one thread. There are several others that call it like it is – that they got their heads handed to them, and that Iowa is pretty fucking good.
There were at least 4 threads on Cyclone fanatice discussing that point but you missed my point
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
He looks old enough to be a guy
who lived through 15 or so years of Fry beatdowns, when the ISU people became adept at self-deprecating humor. What else was there to do? The bar where I watched the game, when we could get it in those days, invited the ISU club to watch it together. The outcome was a foregone conclusion, and the chant from their side of the bar when they scored was “beat the spread”. All in all, a fairly tame, friendly Iowa-reunion sort of get-together. He, as well as the game, reminds me of that. I think it’s funny.
The younger ISU fans don’t have a clue, just as the younger justNW fans don’t have a clue. Also, if Rhoads wakes up and instills a slightly less gimmicky offense, he could stay for a while. On the other hand, with limited talent, he may think he needs it to survive, at least for now. He’s a guy from just down the highway, and somebody who looks to want to be there. We talk all the time about the connection between Ferentz and Iowa City. I think it’s the same for Rhoades and Ames. How far that gets them remains to be seen, though we would have been thrilled to go to a bowl in 1999.
In Norm we trust.
We've won 7 of the last 13!!!
Against you TavernSquawks!!!!! (Please, no one remind us it’s also 7 of the last 28).
/Cylcone Fanatic’d
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Yeah, he's totally faking it.
I like him.
"Now you put a Pamper on him and send him back out here." - Ray Isom, 1987 Fiesta Bowl
by ReadingRambler on Sep 13, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions
Is it true tha JoePa is too old for the game and has lost his sence of humor?
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
sence = sents = cents = sense
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
How is the PSU nation today?
Not exactly a good weekend for you guys. I was hoping you guys who knock off the evil Saban.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Sep 13, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Created this video because...
I really thought this guy needed to be forever preserved as part of the Cyclone-Hawkeye rivalry. He’s definitely being sarcastic, but the delivery is money. Still laugh out loud watching it…
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