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It's Not Plagiarism If You Link To It Sure Had Fun At Media Days

Thank you for the two days of access; don't worry, we just wasted it anyway: Big Ten Media Days have come and gone, and thanks to the dozens upon dozens of reporters there, we now know... basically nothing more than a week ago. Excellent work, gents and gals. While apparently nobody bothered to ask anybody about things like incoming starters or strategy or things that happen on the field, we were treated to several questions to Joe Paterno asking him about how he's so old, someone asking Adrian Clayborn why he "looks so scary," someone else asking Clayborn to talk about Cameron Heyward (who, let the record show, was also present at Media Days and perfectly capable of taking questions) and innumerable occurrences of reporters feeding answers to their subjects before they're even done asking the question.

FORMULA: "Coach, could you talk about [thing] and in terms of [answer I'm already attributing to you but I need an actual quote."

EXAMPLE, 8:50: "Hey Coach, you're playing Northwestern toward the end of the season at Wrigley Field, could you just talk  about how much of an extra-special experience it'll be, kind of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for you and the team?"

That? That is dogshit journalism. Ask a real question.

If caring is creepy, I guess that makes us all Torrey-adores! Get it, because bullfighting... oh forget it: Iowa has welcomed another recruit to the fold; today, it's Florida DB Torrey Campbell, who is a 3-star prospect with at least 13 BCS offers (though, to be sure, some of those are merely "BCS with finger quotes"). Campbell's got a sensational highlight reel, but it's all as a tailback:

Star-divide

Now, to be sure, Iowa knows much more about Campbell than we do, and there's probably a reason why they think he projects better as a defensive back than a running back. We'll just point out that for all the meaningless kabuki theater of the NFL combine, the one measure of performance that directly correlates with success on the field is offensive linemen and arm length running backs and speed. Campbell can flat-out move with the ball in his hand, and we hope that if he's given the opportunity to play tailback if he wants it. If he's fine in the defensive backfield, though, so much the better, and welcome aboard, young man.

SHORT ROUTEZ:

Tyler Sash is on the Jim Thorpe Watch List. It's like the terrorist watch list, except with football, plus Sash loves America and is allowed to fly on airplanes. So it's not like the terrorist watch list at all. Never mind.

EA's money-printer football games get another challenge; this time, it's a lawsuit from retired NFL players, who aren't particularly thrilled at their inclusion in the Madden NFL series without compensation. Oh sure, Madden will change their names and jersey numbers as some sort of a cover, but as the suit notes, all the other details are left the same, so as to leave no doubt in the gameplayer's mind who the character is supposed to represent. Further, the game is talking about specific teams and specific years; there's even an expectation on the gameplayer's part that, say, the Navy alumni QB1 from the 1978 Cowboys is Roger Staubach. We're not sure how this lawsuit will end, but EA's practice of quick work-arounds of wink-and-a-nod "ambiguity" for these characters' likenesses is probably at an end.

Brett Favre is "retired." We don't believe this for one second; even if Favre doesn't divebomb training camp after the third preseason game, once the Vikings start 2-3 and are staring at 5 more losses in a row, he'll probably report "significant improvement" in his ankle's health, and here we'll go again. But until then, Joe Sports Fan has a thorough list of the sickening praise heaped on the man who has spent the last six offseasons holding his teams hostage, only to return and ruin their playoff runs with untimely interceptions. Good riddance.

And finally, Ron Zook is singing the Seventh Inning Stretch. It's exactly what you would expect.

You'll notice at the end of the clip that the score is 13-1, Milwaukee. TRUE STORY: before Zook started singing, it was 1-0 Cubs; 4 bars into the song, the scorekeeper was so irate that he chalked 13 runs up to the Brewers in protest. The league will not reverse that decision.

Also, we like to imagine that this was the result of weeks and weeks of preparation from Zook, and that during the commercial break before the 7th inning, a conversation between Cubs broadcaster Len Kasper and Zook went like this:

LK: It's been 3 weeks since we first asked you to perform this song, Mr. Zook. We hope that was enough time. How's your Seventh Inning Stretch practice going?
RZ: It's getting better and better!
LK: Great, let's hear a little bit before we're back on the air.
RZ: Ohhh say--(voice cracks)--yyyy can you baseballllll (voice cracks) by the (goes silent for 30 seconds and waits for other people to sing) with libertyyyyy and the home of the baseballlllll
LK: (drinks self to death)

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Real journalist here.

…and by real I mean I have no money, wear a tie as little as possible and I supplement my income by stealing office supplies… anyway…

I’ve been to a ton of these things. Real questions are rarely asked. It’s almost like a gentlemen’s agreement between coaches and journalists to keep things superficial.

It’s as if everyone decides to pretend that every team has a bright and glorious future.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Aug 4, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

That's fair...

Can you imagine actual honesty regarding, say Indiana or Vanderbilt?

Reporter Coach, can you tell us what you’re expecting this year?

Vandy Coach Well, we’re going to get beat like we stole something. Our left tackle is 10 lbs. lighter than Florida’s QB. You know those highlight reel videos the recruits send out to the colleges? The players we land are the ones getting smoked on coverage, and look like they’re running in quicksand in pursuit. We’ll be lucky to win 2 games. Middle Tennessee State Technical School for Blind Paralyzed Children A&M is looking tough this year, and we suck so bad we had to agree to a home and home with them.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Aug 4, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are good guys (Morehouse) doing good work...

I wanted to clear that up.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Aug 4, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now, now, we all like the Friends of the Pants and all...

…but even they would admit that they phone in more than a couple minutes of work at these things (it’s okay to say it out loud). [Check out Mas Casa’s Twitter from yesterday if you think I’m being a dick.]
Like nopants said, that’s part of how these things work. Gentlemens’ agreement and all.

Part of me wishes they’d be more honest (like Toes’ example), but then I think about how unbearable 2007 would have been.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 4, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gentlemen's agreement, schmentalmen's agreement.

With all due respect to Morehouse, Rittenburg, and Nopants- journalists could still ask real, thoughtful questions pertaining to the teams.

Now, they may still get the same ol, run of the mill answers, but at least throw some solid questions out there.

There is nothing worse than a sports fan with zero sense of humor.

by stanzipants on Aug 4, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah (I'm not naming names or implying anyone, cause THIS is a generalization) but...

…everyone has had a day (every Monday?) where you think to yourself, I don’t really want to push/challenge myself today or think/work too hard. I’ve got a long project (the season) ahead, and I just want to coast to a start so as to not throw any bumps in my way at the outset.
That kind of seems to be the thinking overall (again, not getting specific in any way… I’m a fan of the FOTPs). It’s good thinking in this day and age of “journalism” where access is the ultimate end (it may have always been this way, but the Helen Thomas’- – I know, not a sports writer- – of the world seemed like they were willing to piss their subjects off in order to dig deeper). You don’t want to go to the first day of work for the year (which it kind of is for a football beat writer) and be like “Hey Sweatervest, how will you prepare your team differently this year so they don’t choke against Purdue again? Is Danny Hope inside your head, or were your briefs just too tight that day? Are you excited that you won’t have to lose an early game to USC this year, or would you rather be playing them now that they aren’t so dominant?”
That would make for a long season, and your paper wouldn’t be happy because you probably wouldn’t be getting a lot of good interviews or answers the rest of the year. If companies that own newspapers would stop treating them like money-making enterprises, and started treating them like information dissemination media, we (and the writers) would all be better off for it.

That is all.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 4, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another "real" journalist weighing in . . .

Albeit on the news, not sports side.

You have to keep in mind that many if not most of these reporters also have to cover this team all year, and have to deal with access issues, etc.

If a reporter KNOWS they are going to get a vanilla, pointless, non-answer to a “pointed” or “thoughtful” question – based on years of experience on the job – they also know the only outcome of asking that question is to attract animosity from the source.

Why should you make your job harder down the road when you aren’t going to achieve anything by asking the probing question in the first place?

The bigger problem I see is less of asking good questions, than not coming up with more interesting story lines.

by Torbee on Aug 4, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know I know

You.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and by the way Marc . . .

Sorry it was a lame news feature that cost everyone access to player family members.

My bad.

; – )

by Torbee on Aug 4, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought that was me!

I thought it was a Clayborn story I did last year.

What was it? I don’t remember. And it’s all a negotiation.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a link -

The story was a real puff piece, but I think the Sandemans talking about Colin’s injury set off some alarm bells:

http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_78bee86c-cb54-11de-95ed-001cc4c03286.html

by Torbee on Aug 5, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I expect Campbell's 40 time

to drop 4 tenths the instant he (suddenly slowly) crosses the Mason Dixon line.

Too high? What do you mean too high?

by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 4, 2010 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Also

To be honest, all I want to know about recruits are, can they return punts and kickoffs for touchdowns? Because having maybe one of those happen every other year sucks. Against some of the crappier teams we play, I’d like to see more big returns. But that’s just me….

by edr247 on Aug 4, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Have you already forgotten?

D-J-K All the Way

but I know what you mean. Expect DJK to bust a few moves this season.

If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor

by Kluginator on Aug 4, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have not forgotten

But that just proves my point. We had one return for a TD (2 if you count the block). Both were instrumental in keeping us in the game, and in the Penn State case, we won the game. The ISU punt return two years ago was more or less the nail in the coffin in what was at the time still a close game. In fact, special teams TDs have been instrumental in Iowa winning games like the Purdue game with a blocked FG and blocked punt, the blocked punt against LSU in the Cap 1… I’d say the one time returning a kickoff all the way didn’t help us was against USC in the first Orange Bowl.

Now imagine we return a Northwestern punt for a TD last year. That essentially ties up the game. Hell, even if they don’t return it for a score, great field position at least allows us to shorten the field for a struggling offense.

by edr247 on Aug 4, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The best is...

…Len and Bob busting up in the background. That was dreadful.

by hawk4trees on Aug 4, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Tressel was looking GDBQ

I sorta expected him to be wearing the sweater vest under his jacket. Of course, omitting the sweater vest just opened the door for Brewster to win worst dressed honors. Does Ferentz just like to bend over when shaking hands?

If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor

by Kluginator on Aug 4, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

You can write a sports story weeks in advance.

Reporter to Winning Coach: "How did you plan for this game?’

Coach: “Well, we worked hard, practiced hard, prepared well, and they’re a great team so we really earned this one.”

Reporter to Winning Player: “How did you pull off this victory?”

Player: “We came out and essacuted. Our big play guys made big plays and we were able to stop their big play guys. When it comes down to it, you gotta make your plays and our guys did that. We played good for four quarters and won it in the end.”
 
Reporter: “What were you thinking when went up by two with three minutes to play?”
 
Player: “We thinking, this is it, you know? This is what its all about, we gotta get back out there and get it done, run our two minute drill, execute, make our plays.”
 
Reporter: “You play #2 ranked in two weeks, how will you prepare for that?”
 
Player: “We don’t look that far ahead, you know, we just take it one week at a time and next week we play North Center Alaska School of the Blind, so we just gotta get ready for that game, they’re a good team you can’t overlook them.”
 
Reporter: “Last week you were quoted as saying, ‘I can’t wait to wipe the dogshit off my shoe that I will step in when we go to because their stadium is used during the offseason to drain their cheerleaders, I mean, dogs, to sit.’ Did you mean that?”
 
Player: “No, that was taken out of context.”
 
And so on and so forth. Reverse this for the losing team.
 
Losing player: “We just didn’t execute. We didn’t make our plays, and their guys did.”
 
Reporter: “Did you maybe overlook this game since you play #2 next week?”
 
Player: “No, we don’t look at it that way, you play one week at a time and this week we had and we just didn’t get the W, we didn’t execute. We hurt ourselfs on turnovers and penalties and they took advantage.”
 
Just count how many times “playmakers” and “make our plays” is said in any post-game interview. At least six. It’s in Code of Federal Regulations.

by hawkeyeinstl on Aug 4, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I can attest his singing was horrible

I was among several Iowa grads at that game who booed the hell out of him, and we were accompanied by most of the stadium.

They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!

by recoveringfratguy on Aug 4, 2010 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

"That? That is dogshit journalism. Ask a real question."

I love it when you get all indignant.

Maize n Brew
Because Football is Better with Beer

by Maize n Brew Dave on Aug 4, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Your mom is indignant.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Aug 4, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darn right.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the JNW quote reminds me

My little “redirect” on wiki still works when you type in “Just Northwestern”.

;-)

by sfshilo on Aug 4, 2010 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Excellent first caption

I’d guess Ferentz got the stinkier end of that deal, tho. I can totally picture Tressel over-committing with his palm in his crack for a good 3minutes at least longer.

Ohio State has the worst fans in the Big Ten. Bar none. And it’s not even close. Humorless in defeat. Condescending in victory. Generally insecure all the time. I’ve partied and had fun with fans of every team in this league, save Ohio State.

by jtothep on Aug 4, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Am I insane

or was there a reference to Carmen in there? Surely not….

by actifed on Aug 4, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

or Carmen San Diego?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 4, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 for the Christian singer.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's like mining for gold in a parking lot

You have to sift through a lot of cement to find a buck’s worth.

It’s no one’s fault. The Big Ten credentials anyone and everyone. It creates an imbalance in supply (interviewees) and demand (interviewers).

What you can control is what you use. I try to keep the parking lot out of it.

Check the Clayborn video from yesterday for a perfect example of what I’m talking about. (And I am getting grief for that because they believe my questions were too personal. To that, I’d just say you’re selling Adrian Clayborn short. He’s a strong, self-actualized person who’s not hiding anything.)

My fatal flaw in these things is I try to do too much. If I went in with one or two ideas, it might be easier.

And I have no hard feelings on any opinions. I welcome the good and the bad.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly right on Clayborn

He can handle a camera crew. He should have been coiled like an angry snake after the Orange Bowl but he was great on camera.

I live in St. Louis and between Clayborn and McNutt the local yokels have been pretty interested in Iowa football lately (and, much to my satisfaction, profoundly annoyed that Mizzou didn’t get these guys).

by hawkeyeinstl on Aug 4, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a parade from St. Louis

I wouldn’t be shocked to see Shumpert possibly getting a look at PT as a WR this year.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

We appreciate your efforts.

You, Hlas, and Doc could just live in the corridor, kiss Iowa’s butt, and have a nice little existence. Insteady, you guys actually do your job, and you balance the consumers’ needs with the demands placed on you by the athletic department.

Thanks, and keep up the good work.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 4, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

You bring up something I forgot to mention.

Access is hard to come by with Iowa. We don’t get a lot of time with the players or coaches. I couldn’t imagine wasting a second of it.

It’s great, however, during bowl week.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're going in with the wrong credentials.

Trade your media pass for a Kinnick Society I-Club card and you can talk to the coaches all you want. My uncle has Norm Parker on speed dial.

I’m kidding, but not by much.

As an impoverished undergraduate, my access route was my sister, who lived in the same building as Kyle McCann and was dating the starting center, I forget his name now. I went over to her place once and DeVries, Dwight, and Epenesa were over there watching TV (she was in a study group with Epenesa) and she had no idea who any of them were.

by hawkeyeinstl on Aug 4, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Had no idea

That’s hilarious!

Do you think there are people on campus who don’t know these guys? Besides maybe some high-level philosophy grad students who argue about commas?

I walk through the Society lot on gamedays. Now that is some impressive tailgating. More comfortable than my recliner, I’m sure.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a former UI student I can tell you

that while the stars were recognizable, many of the other players could slip by unnoticed by most simply because football uniforms largely limit the players’ appearance to the casual observer. The basketball players, given that their faces are unobstructed by helmets, are much easier to pick out. Hell, I can vouch that Dean Oliver went to class pretty much every day because of that.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Aug 4, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent.

Here is my story. Obviously, I grew up in Waterloo, and graduated from UNI. There was a very good Waterloo high school basketball player that went to UNI (and got thrown off the team within a year or two) in the mid 1990s. Then, I’m in classes with the guy a couple years later, but I didn’t recognize him. And I should have, because he was from my hometown and by that point was somewhat famous/infamous.

Basically stars will get recognized, and role players might not.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 4, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hah! Same thing happened to me at Iowa.

Remember Kent McCausland?

We both grew up in Waterloo, I golfed with him at Sunnyside when we were kids. I basically grew up seeing him out there at least once a month, and we played golf together up through I think junior high or so. Yet when he started playing basketball at Iowa, I didn’t recognize him at all. And Kent was kind of a big deal at Iowa.

by hawkeyeinstl on Aug 4, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

I ran with a non-traditional crowd in Iowa City, they were completely oblivious to university athletics and wore their ignorance as a badge of honor. Lots of them were the children of professors and they hated (and loved) the university. I remained a closet fan and followed the team. But a guy like DeVries, there was no way to not realize he was a football player. You could maybe overlook Dwight because of his height, or mistake him for a wrestler.

That’s how clueless my sister was. She DID know her boyfriend played, though. He got us fantastic tickets once, 20 rows back on the 40 yard line behind the home bench, though tickets were pretty easy to come by back then, during the Between Time.
 
Oh, and Shirley Fry would come through my line at the Coralville Hy-Vee now and then and I never recognized her until she handed me her check. I’d ask, “Is everything current?” and then punch myself in the eye socket for being an idiot.

by hawkeyeinstl on Aug 4, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's hilarious

I only met Shirley a few times. She didn’t have the same sense of humor Hayden does.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's probably a good thing.

Could you imagine the household that fits two personalities that big?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Aug 5, 2010 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Shirley seemed a tad humorless and slightly annoyed at her husband’s local notoriety. I never made a big deal out of it and treated her like any other customer. But at that time, Hayden was also going through his secret cancer treatments, so her lack of good cheer was justifiable.

by hawkeyeinstl on Aug 5, 2010 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Gazette

I’ve always liked (looks like ass-kissing, but isn’t) the way their sports staff (in my lifetime, anyway) does things. I even almost cringed when you asked Mr. Clayborn about his brothers, but he took the questions very well. Kudos to you for understanding your interviewee.

Me gustan los estados unidos.

by hkobb7 on Aug 4, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

More on that subject coming

Check the blog in a day or two.

And thank you.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 4, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

About Favre

I think you’re underestimating the amount of karmic backlash his yearly hostage holding exerts on the team. Those interceptions are completely timely, just not in his favor.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 4, 2010 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

hey not very funny on the zook photo

it was my once a year trip to wrigley with the family and we stand up to sing and they announce ron f-ing zook (not like that of course) and i don’t think i sang a word of the actual lyrics, it was just a bunch of f-bombs that zook was doing it. and yes he was awful, the worst i have ever heard do it. so not only was the trip over from iowa city long and expensive with a downtown hotel and nice seats at wrigley but they got their asses handed to them AND i had to listen to ron fucking zook sing the stretch. damnit anyhow…

by blackgoldandcubbieblue on Aug 4, 2010 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

The worst ever?

Ozzy Osbourne would like a word with you.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Aug 4, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shania Twain

was so bad that when that a country radio station played it on the air afterwards. We had to pull the truck over because we started laughing so hard. The DJ even commented that it was so awful, he would have to play that again later in case anybody missed it.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Aug 5, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

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