INPIYL2I: The Spy Game
Our Opinion on the Michigan-Ohio State Thing.
Splitting Ohio State and Michigan into different divisions in order to preserve the possibility of a Big Blue-OSU championship game might be stupid, but it's not completely unwarranted. Further, your incessant bitching about the mere placement of a game only furthers the view the rest of us have of you: Smug, arrogant, entitled (there's also the douchebag stuff, but that has little to do with this). Wisconsin and Iowa have played 85 times, including every year since 1937, in the Big Ten's most competitive rivalry. It's a game that fans from both schools want, and yet it looks virtually certain that the series will be no more; regardless of where Minnesota ends up, they will trump the Iowa-Wisconsin rivalry. Nobody -- well, at least nobody other than uninformed retirees -- is suggesting the annual Ohio State-Michigan game be skipped. Everyone else here is sacrificing to make this a better conference, and there is little doubt that Nebraska does that. We're not asking for blood and urine samples. It's October. Deal with it.
In related news, Kirk Ferentz said yesterday he believed we'd have news on the divisional alignment before football was played. With Thursday games scheduled in the conference, that could well mean we get answers today or tomorrow.
Fun With Depth Charts. The prohibitive depth chart for Eastern Illinois was released late last week, with little fanfare and few surprises:
- Much ado about nothing: No changes in the starting offensive line since the start of camp, with Reiff/Vandervelde/Ferentz/Gettis/Zusevics across the front. Josh Koeppel, who was listed as co-starting center, might have taken a step back with that whole getting run over by a truck thing yesterday, but could still play, per Mas Casa's Twitter feed. Any reports of Gettis' high ankle sprain were apparently greatly exaggerated.
- Two's company: DJK and Colin Sandeman are sharing the top line at one wideout position. It might seem odd that the all-time leading Iowa receiver-to-be isn't holding down the spot on his own, but it's actually better than last year, when he was backing up McNutt and Stross.
- THREAT LEVEL: ORANGE. Paki O'Meara is, as expected, backing up Adam Robinson at tailback.
- She said the theme of this party's the industrial age, and the defensive line came in dressed like a trainwreck: Broderick Binns' suspension has left the coaching staff indecisive on what to do with the defensive front. Christian Ballard is now listed as a starter at both defensive tackle and defensive end; while he's above 300 pounds now, playing one player in two positions could be a detriment to the Hawkeyes and is ill-advised. The most likely scenario is that Ballard, a former defensive end, will line up on the edge on running downs, making way for Mike Daniels (who has apparently had a monster camp), then kick back inside on passing downs to allow Lebron Daniel to take his talents to the quarterback. A 3-4 scheme isn't necessarily out of the question in certain circumstances; Iowa employed it against Iowa State and Arizona last year, and there is a bevy of upperclassmen linebackers to choose from.
- Absence makes the heart grow fonder: No sign of Shaun Prater, who reportedly went in for an MRI on something last week and hasn't been seen since. While it's not surprising that the coaching staff would hold him out of this game if there was even a threat of injury, what is surprising is that sophomore Greg Castillo -- and not junior Jordan Bernsine -- assumes his spot on the depth chart. This is the part where I remind you of the unmitigated disaster that was Greg Castillo against Northern Iowa last year. This is also the part where you wake up in a cold sweat.
The first weekly press conference is set for this afternoon, so we should know more about these and other issues (wherefore art thou, Cody Hundertmark?) after Kirk does his thing. Ferentz goes on the Big Ten teleconference at 11:40, with a live press conference scheduled for 12:30.
Eastern Promises. The Omaha World Herald's Henry Cordes gets inside access to the Nebraska administration and spins it into gold with this definitive piece on the clandestine game of footsie played between NU Chancellor Harvey Perlman and Big Ten commish Jim Delany which led to Nebraska joining the conference, It's unquestionably the most fascinating read to come out of Nebraska's summertime jump to the Big Ten, with plenty of intrigue...
If things didn't break right, the friend said, even a traditional power like Nebraska could find itself on the outside looking in. The friend said things were moving fast. Perlman decided he needed to move quickly, too.
The next day, as he was sitting in the convention's general assembly, he pulled out his BlackBerry and punched out an e-mail to Jim Delany. "Are you around?'' he asked the Big Ten's commissioner.
"Yes. I'm right behind you,'' came the reply five minutes later.
...international espionage...
To this day, Perlman, Osborne and Delany won't say where they met on May 25. Perlman will describe it only as "a very remote private location'' far from both Big Ten country and Nebraska. It's a secret, Perlman said, because the Big Ten may use it for future business.
They went to considerable lengths to keep the meeting under wraps. Because Osborne is a well-known figure who tends to attract attention, it was agreed he and the chancellor would fly separately. Perlman was joined by Joel Pedersen, the university's general counsel. Few on any of their staffs knew the reason for their travel. After staying overnight in a city and eating breakfast separately to preserve their low profile, Perlman and Osborne received cell calls summoning them to meet a car outside. They then rode to a rural location about an hour outside the city. They were greeted by Delany, Big Ten Deputy Commissioner Brad Traviolia and the conference's legal counsel.
...and even some romance...
In this case, Delany saw a great cultural fit. It's safe to say that Nebraska's stock had climbed considerably, he said last week. "It clicked on both of our ends,'' he said.
Then while the attorneys went over Nebraska's media contracts, and Osborne and Traviolia discussed more detailed athletic matters, Delany and Perlman went for a walk.
I take the mention of "cultural fit," coming off a discussion of how Nebraska didn't bring a flashy presentation or grandiose plans to the meeting, as a shot against Notre Dame and Texas, who both almost certainly had similar meetings with Delany and -- being Notre Dame and Texas -- probably didn't approach them with the same understated humility. In any case, it's absolutely the best piece penned on the Nebraska move and more than worth your time.
POSTZ N STUFF:
Fluffery: CBS Sports on Adrian Clayborn, Don Doxsie of the Quad City Times on Stanzi and the other quarterbacks, Rivals on Clayborn (#1 defensive end in the nation), ESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg on Stanzi. Rittenberg also gets a brief video interview with Ferentz.
That's What It's All About: In preparation for the Hokey Pokey world record attempt scheduled for this Friday at the second-annual Fry Fest, Hlas delivers the story of how the dance made its way into the Iowa locker room all those years ago.
Gameday Atmosphere: After attempting to evict the Magic Bus in favor of a for-profit enterprise that was shot down by the City Council, the new owners of "that house" on Melrose might bring back the Magic Bus after all. This comes after both the Magic Bus and the owners of the replacement operation were denied permits to operate. The irony of this is that, all along, the Magic Bus is exactly what the University and city should be promoting: A confined area with security staff checking ID's and watching for problems. You're not going to take the drinking culture out of pregame festivities -- permitting it is too lucrative to both the University and the region -- so let the responsible operators operate.
Good News for People Who Like Bad News: Kyle Calloway was cut by the Bills.
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MRI on Prater?
Shit.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 31, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
Marc Morehouse
indicated it was a hamstring strain, KF is “hopeful” – anyone’s guess on what that really means. I am hopeful it is minor and we are being very cautious about letting him rest for another week to heal, receive treatment and be ready to go for ISU et al.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi
by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 31, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, the hammy can use as much rest as possible...
…so our Big Ten foes aren’t testing him every week, making it worse.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 1, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's hoping
Castillo has really made the improvement from last season that people are saying he has. Still don’t know why Bernstine isn’t the first corner in, beginning to look more and more like he’s not going to pan out.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Bears should pick up Calloway . . .
I can guarantee he’s better than pretty much all the other dreck they have attempting to block people.
Bears should quit football
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Aug 31, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe football should quit the Bears.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I will fight all of you!!!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 31, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at it this way.
The two Bears v. Lions games this year should be BARN BURNERS!
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
A minor quibble...
…but Iowa has not played Wisconsin every year since 1937. When PSU first joined the league all the protected rival stuff wasn’t sorted out yet, and Wisconsin rotated out of the schedule in 1993 and 1994. I believe they have played every year since 1995 though. I don’t know if there was a year missed anywhere between ’37 and ’92.
I hate you.
Shut up.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 31, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
YOU PEOPLE AND YOUR GODDAMN "FACTS" AND WHATNOT.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Clearly
Avoiding Iowa and it’s Sun Bowl-bound team of destiny is what allowed Wisconsin to win the Big Ten and go to the Rose Bowl in 1993
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Conspiracy! Conspiracy I say!
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Aug 31, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
super-minor quibble
The 1993 Iowa team was bound for the very first Alamo Bowl, where they got destroyed by California something like 31-0. That Cal team had an amazing defense.
OSU and Michigan: smug, arrogant, entitled, douchebags
Agreed. Still: better than Texas.
by hoosierdaddynow on Aug 31, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions
And...
Most of the SEC.
Perpetually living between the click of a light and the start of a dream.
by hawkeyeguy85 on Aug 31, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
So....
What you’re saying is … you DIDN’T want me to send you a blood and urine sample?
Whoops.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 31, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions
You know what, fuck Michigan and Ohio State!
Seriously. When this all started I felt for them, and being a nostalgic type person, I even agreed a little (not enought to care, but a little).
Traditions matter, but these douches have gone from “I feel for you” to “fuck you” due to all of their self-centered hand wringing. “It will never be the same.” “No one else understands.” “You don’t mess with The Game.” “How are we supposed to get excited for this game in October?!” Erp. Wait, what? “How are we supposed to get excited to play any other team at the end of the year?” Hold on now, that sounds… “No other game means anything without building to The Game.” Now just stop right there you piece of… “We don’t even want to play anyone else if we don’t get what we want because UM/OSU is the only game that matters. In fact those other teams aren’t really playing ‘football’ at all because they aren’t from Columbus or Ann Arbor.” STOP. Just stop right there, and fuck right the fuck off.
My god. If you read the quotes of these people (and I use that term loosely) they sound like a bunch of arrogant, self-important, spoon fed fucking fuckfaced fuckers. Fuck.
They sound like they think theirs are the only two teams in the conference, and that they just can’t be expected to even acknowledge the rest of us.
When Rob Lytle is saying shit like, “The team that loses is going to have a hard time getting themselves back up for whoever they next play” it makes me wonder, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE REST OF US DO!? They’ve found their roots and are going around talking like the rest of us are just knavish peasants, not to be looked upon. I’m sick of their better-than-you attitudes. If they don’t like it, they can go independent and play Notre Dame 10 times before meeting each other at the end of the year, for all I care. Fuck those guys.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
This beautiful rant brought to you by UM & tOSU Haters of America.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Aug 31, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
UM/OSU Haters of America...
…it’s accronym = “The rest of us.”
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 1, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think you used enough fucks.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 31, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck, I'm never sure.
It’s such a good fucking word I never want to fucking over-use it. Fuck.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 1, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
wow
its like you took what I was thinking and made words out of my thoughts…..WORDS!!!
"That woman was sexy...Out of your league? Son. Let women figure out why they won't screw you, don't do it for them."...SMDS
by J.R. Angle has a posse on Aug 31, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Very well said.
And the next time you post PLEASE don’t hold anything back. It’s hard to understand where you are coming from when you are biting your tongue
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Mr. Freedumb
what you have just said is one of the most sanely intelligent things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, although very coherent response were you even close to anything that could not be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this blog is now smarter for having read it. I award you infinite points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Aug 31, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF?
Isn’t there a fuck limit for a post? You broke it after sentence number four.
Well done.
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Well
they sound like a bunch of arrogant, self-important, spoon fed fucking fuckfaced fuckers. Fuck.
It’s not that they sound like it. They really are.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Just… wow… Couldn’t agree more. Shouldn’t the actual game matter and not when its played?
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Aug 31, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Competitive balance is a bitch
One thing the Big 10 has been priding itself in this whole expansion process is equality between all of the universities in the conference. Apparently, when the league leaders are trying to balance things out and create equality among the schools, the fan bases of two schools decided that this balance should take a backseat to them. After UM and tOSU, then we can have balance. My hats off to the AD’s of Michigan and OSU that see this balance as a GOOD thing.
I like it. I hope the UM/OSU split happens because it will set things up so that there will be two great divisions and both will produce a great champion that will compete against each other . We should see a fairly good diversity of teams making the championship game over the years because of competitive balance and it WILL have an effect on The Game. The Big 10 will become THE BIG 10(12) and not the Big 2 + 10.
“The Game” will be played between two great teams on the first weekend of December. It will be the last Big 10 conference game of the year. For the Big 10 championship. The way it has been. The “New” Game.
The person with no expectations will never be disappointed.
by Aaron Musfeldt on Aug 31, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Michigan and Ohio State are just emo kids.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Aug 31, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Now now...
…emo kids don’t deserve that.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 1, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
The problem isn't putting OSU-Mich ahead of the conference as a whole.
Although I’m sure a lot of fans of both schools do.
The problem is that breaking up that rivalry game gains absolutely nothing for the rest of the conference. At all. There’s no arrangement of teams with Michigan in one division and OSU in the other that works better than a straightforward geographic split for other rivalries, nor for short-term competitive balance (long-term, consult your Magic 8 Ball and you’ll probably be as accurate as if you’d actually tried to guess it for real). That’s what bothers me about it.
I really hate OSU.
And, I really hate the several Iowans who somehow turned into Michigan fans before they turned 15 years old.
But I actually want “The Game” to continue to be played at the end of the year. Because, I want both teams in a division that does not include Iowa. Because I continue to yearn for the east-west breakdown for divisions (or maybe put PSU in the west and put one of the Illinois schools in the east).
Also, I thought the clear proper terminology for these schools and all their fans was: “jerkoffs.”

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 31, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Reason for being a Michigan fan...
Easy. I HATE OSU! And really since the Irish have snubbed us, twice now, maybe I’m a Michigan fan twice a year.
Read the presser transcript and am excited to see they plan on playing 4 true frosh
Morris and Kirksey on defense, Polish hat on offense and Mike Meyers at kicker. He also mentioned that 4-6 other true freshmen are being looked at for future pt. Also sounds like Koeppel will sit this game out.
the trailer hitch scrotum was my idea
More like Morris and Kirksey on special teams but yeah
That has me excited for their future. Especially Kirksey who has apparently been impressive despite still being badly undersized. A few more years in the weightroom and he could be a good one.
Kirksey's size worries me
Is that caring creepily enough? But he’s awfully small right now, under 2 bills, to be playing linebacker, even if it is on special teams.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Eh.
The last thing I worry about at Iowa is Doyle’s ability to reshape guys as needed. I suppose it would be a concern if we needed him to play a lot this year at LB, but that shouldn’t be the case.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
A look at the depth chart...
tells me how important it will be for us to keep our “patchwork” O-Line healthy. There are some names on the second and third strings right now who have not played at Kinnick in their career yet. And I’m worried.
/shoots arm with needle of SWAGGER
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 31, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
DiNardo said
on the BTN preview show that Iowa has done more to answer its question marks (replacing OL graduations) than any other team in the conference. Dinardo picks Iowa to win the conference title while Griffin has us #2. I am feeling the swagger.
the trailer hitch scrotum was my idea
Have you seen Kirksey's brother (?) at Minny?
He’s got the genes for beefy.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 1, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Interesting.
Both are from St. Louis, MO and both went to Hazelwood East, but I haven’t found anything yet that says that Minnesota’s Kirksey (Brandon) is related to Iowa’s Kirksey (Christian).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Actually, you reminded me.
He isn’t his brother, it’s his uncle. I read something during the off season, during creepy caring time, and yeah, IIRC the Minny Kirksey is the uncle of our Christian Kirksey (and Christian’s uncle says his nephew is the bigger stud of the two).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 2, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I know the secret location Delaney, Osborne, and Pearlman met
An hour outside a city nowhere near Big 10 land…..The bunny ranch outside Vegas. They went to get their freak on.
I honestly don’t know exactly where the bunny ranch is, but I think someone told me about an hour outside Vegas so we’ll just go with it.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
He treated Perlman to a free half and half on the ole Big Ten American Express.
Osborne waited in the car.
by HawkeyeRecon on Aug 31, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Great read on the Nebraska decision
It’s always interesting to see how close perception comes to reality. Not that it always matters, but…
A fella steps out for a two pound burrito and all hell breaks loose.
I don’t see how pointing out the probable loss of Iowa-Wisconsin is supposed to make Michigan or Ohio St. fans feel better about messing the last game of the season. Now, not only is the Hodgepodge of Ass messing with the scheduling of the UM/OSU game, but it is also interfering with other rivalries as well. This wouldn’t be a problem with common sense geographical divisions. I mean, if the Iowa-Wisconsin is as important as you claim, shouldn’t you be joining Michigan and Ohio St. fans decrying the sellout of tradition for a championship game matchup that isn’t guaranteed to happen?
by wile_e8 on Aug 31, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
We just want to play Wisconsin
tOSU and UM are bitching more about WHEN “The Game” will take place, we just want to continue playing our rival every year and don’t need it to be the last week of the schedule.
by Hank Thrasher on Aug 31, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Fans have never made a Big Ten schedule, and their opinions shouldn’t matter. I think tradition went out the window when NEBRASKA joined the conference. If I was a fan of either school I think I’d be a little peeved, but spouting off the way they have is completely asinine. Let two other schools duke it out in that final-game-of-the-regular-season spot for once (exception: IA v MN 2008, but I digress). Do they think hate week will be less hateful because it’s not near turkey day? The Game has been a joke for most of the last ten years anyway. Even Zombie Bo thinks they sound like a bunch of sniveling whiney bitches.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
To play Devil's Advocate..
Why are so many Hawkeyes putting so much stock in the UI / Wisc rivalry? It’s not even been around for a decade, and people are acting Delany shot their dogs. The Heartland Trophy has always been stupid, and will continue to be stupid. I’d much rather have the Neb. game be the season closer – Husker fans are fucking insane, and that insanity can only amp up what will almost certainly be a game with direct post-season implications.
This one's for alllllll the oranges.
I don’t see how pointing out the probable loss of Iowa-Wisconsin is supposed to make Michigan or Ohio St. fans feel better about messing the last game of the season.
I don’t see anything saying we were trying to make Michigan or Ohio St. fans feel better. I recall seeing ‘deal with it’ and ‘incessant bitching.’
To be fair, Iowa-Wisc getting split up is nearly as asinine as Mich-OSU
Of course, there’s a sane division alignment that doesn’t mess with either …
(That’s what blows my mind about this. It’s not so much that everyone should give up something to keep Mich-OSU together, it’s that no one has to give anything up to keep that game together, unless you’re so focused on balance that you forget that the balance is going to shift on a fairly frequent basis and all your hard work at guessing the balance is going to be for naught.)
Thank You
Do an East-West split, all rivalry games will still exist and tOSU and UM can play the last weekend of the season for a shot at the CCG. Nobody can possibly see how “balanced” the conference will be 5, 10, or 15 years from now, so quit trying to predict the future.
by Hank Thrasher on Aug 31, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to Indianapolis
I think we know how Perlman feels about Soldier Field or Lambeau now:
In fact, he actually would end up voting to play the title game in Dallas for the next several years. "I wasn’t prepared to sit in Kansas City in the cold,’’ Perlman said.
Also, I’m shocked that this “definitive” article only mentions Alvarez once. And it completely messes up the story where Alvarez is the sole reason Nebraska is in the Big Ten over the objections of everyone else.
Magic? There's no such thing as magic?
Just a clusterfuck of errors and public officials being stupid about what they really want tailgating to be.
I’m going to say that the property owner really holds most of the blame here. While I respect their desire to extract profit from their location, they were pretty dumb to invest in that new slab and other changes without considering the zoning and regulations. I know you can always apply for zoning exemptions, but a wise choice would have been to feel out how the City would feel about that. Now it sounds like even if they reach an agreement with the rugby club, the city won’t let anything happen until they remove that concrete slab they spent all summer pouring.
Easily fixed.
Hand a sledgehammer and a brew to the first 30 people through the gate (they get in free of charge). That slab will be gone before 7:30 am on Saturday. Fixed.
Slap a sign on the famous vehicle that says, “If this bus is rockin’, it’s home.”
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