Big Ten Media Days: In Which Nothing Is Surprising
Not Surprising: Adrian Clayborn wasn't implying that ISU and UNI don't exist or whatever. It's not fair to call last month's OMG CONTROVERSY a "misquote," since the words "I mean we're the only team in the state, as far as I know" did come out of Adrian Clayborn's mouth, in that order. But any reasonable assessment of that situation would tell you that Clayborn was referring to Iowa merely being the most high-profile college team in a state without professional teams. Indeed, Clayborn was asked again about That Quote, and lo and behold:
"If you look back at the history, we barely beat UNI last year, so we can't disrespect that program," Iowa's All-Big Ten defensive end offered Monday as the curtain fell on the first session of Big Ten football media days. "We were two field goals away from walking back into the locker room crying after our first loss.
"And Iowa State, we've barely been beating those guys, aside from last year. But I think the series is (even) with them since I've been here. There's no disrespect to those programs. They're great programs. If I could answer the question again, I would."
Not Surprising: Sean Keeler doesn't accept that as an answer. It's obvious he wouldn't, since Keeler is a truly terrible hack of a writer, and is not willing to discard a manufactured storyline a full month before the game in question.
But come on. If Clayborn really meant the original statement in a boastful manner, then Kirk Ferentz would have been much more likely to kick him off the team than send him to freaking Media Days; after all, not even DJK has said anything half as incendiary as what Keeler wishes Clayborn meant, and DJK has snipers trained on him every time he speaks to a member of the press. The Tigerhawk-branded sniper rifles are $6,999.95, by the way, and available at your local Scheel's.
Not Surprising: Tate Forcier isn't exactly a Michigan Man. It's bad when one of a team's three representatives at Media Days absolutely buries his own returning starting quarterback, right?
According to [senior Michigan cornerback Troy Woolfolk], what was once a neck-and-neck race between Forcier and Robinson for the starting quarterback job has begun to tip in Robinson's favor. And a big reason for that, Woolfolk said, is the team's perception of players who don't show up to voluntary workouts.
"I personally have a lack of respect for them," Woolfolk said. "The outlook on them is kind of diseased. Like you don't want to be hanging around those people because they have bad work ethic. But at the same time, it's my role to try to persuade them to come out more."
According to Woolfolk, Forcier hasn't shown up to as many workouts as him and the other seniors feel he should have, and Woolfolk said it's hurting his teammates' perception of their signal caller.
"The only reason he's not really labeled as diseased is because of the way he was able to carry the team last year before we started losing. People still trust him a little bit, but he's starting to lose that trust."
Forcier's bitter transfer is coming in 3... 2...
Not Surprising: Tom Osborne wants his team to play the only Big Ten team in a neighboring state. Seriously, what's (the ferociously dapper) Dr. Tom going to say? "Ugh, we just got out of a division with ISU, maybe it's too soon for us and the Hawkeyes"? C'mon.
Not Surprising: Karl Klug is down to earth and focusing on one thing at a time. ESPN's not embedding video, because clearly the last thing they need is to draw attention to Rittenberg's efforts at Media Days, but this interview with Karl Klug is like the most Ferentz intervew any Hawkeye has ever given. Slightly paraphrased: "Talk about your third game of the season." "No because it is not the first."
Not Surprising: Via Marc Morehouse, BHGP is taking over the world, one Media Days at a time.
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Clayborn controversy?
Had he said “I mean we’re the only team in the state other than that voacational school in Ames that claims to play major college football but was almost sent to the MAC a few weeks back, as far as I know” then maybe we have something here.
My experience with motivation through disrespect is…if that which you interpret as disrespectful hurts your feelings, it probably means there’s a shitload of truth to it.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Love the Klug interview
And we I just had an image of a Pants militia or something, with Tiger Hawk rifles, doo rags, and tattoos. Thank you, sir.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
re: Keeler's Column*
He actually also mentions Wartburg, Buena Vista, and Luther as other in-state schools whose fans should be outraged at Clayborn’s egregious disrespect at not mentioning them either. So as a former Vinton-Shellsburg Viking and Loras Duhawk, I too, should be seething with rage at this egomaniacal ruffian’s verbal face-slap? Or perhaps I should be burning with apoplectic righteous indignation at Keeler for not mentioning either of those two schools in his column. So what are you saying, Sean? Loras doesn’t exist? Vinton is a mere figment of my imagination?
What a fucking moron.
*if by “column,” you mean the continuing barely-coherent infected cock-dribblings of pure, undiluted slack-jawed idiocy. (TFJ RudePundit)
"Kittens give Morbo gas."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 3, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And to think...
I used to think he was the GOOD one when the Register had Keeler and Nancy Clark writing in the sports section.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ugh...
I’d almost forgotten about Clark.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Aug 3, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Good
is a relative term
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 3, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I am a Waldorf grad, good sir,
and am OUTRAGED, yes OUTRAGED at these remarks!
How could Clayborn say such things? How could he ignore the school that gave Hawkeye Nation Aaron Granquist?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 3, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Demand an apology and a sympathy hug from him.
And when the hug comes squeeze him until he shits himself or his head pops off. Either would be acceptable.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
I would watch ...
Clayborn squeeze Keeler until something exploded. Might even pay to do it.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 3, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I don't read Keeler's column the same way you guys are
I thought he threw those other schools in there to make fun of Iowa State. And, he did throw in the sarcastic ‘Sigh’ after quoting some ISU player’s whining.
by Brock Sampson on Aug 3, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Also:
I really kind of want to know who’s giving BHGP #BigUps at Media Days there. We appreciate the support.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If I had to guess..
I think it’s @bvak, based on his tweets. But that’s a total guess.
"Kittens give Morbo gas."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 3, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny thing
Right before I hit publish, I got an email from an old friend saying his buddy wore the shirt there and that Morehouse had gotten a picture of it. And so here we are.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
I believe thats a word.
It’s used in a Hanes commercial for thier tagless briefs.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
It's in Stepbrothers too
The first time I heard someone say that, I wanted to punch him (this was 5 or 6 years ago at a training in Omaha for the job I had then).
by shada's revenge on Aug 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take that
over “kind of diseased” any day. I’m now wondering if it might turn into a complete train wreck at Michigan.
A fella steps out for a two pound burrito and all hell breaks loose.
Yeah, how jacked up is that?
Hard to believe he came out and said that in public.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Aug 3, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He said on twitter (protected feed, but someone RTed him)
that his words were taken out of context or something. That seems slightly dubious.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
With a quote as extensive as that...
That IS the context.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Aug 3, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he knows something
Forcier could have leprosy. Or cooties.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 3, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The initial Tate quote and the diseased quote may have been separate and put together in the article...
…but he was clearly talking about Tate during the diseased comment too (though he seemed to try to exclude him from the diseased people, but not a lot).
So Tate transfers to Florida after this year?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 3, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
So does Tate have the disease and is in quarantine?
Why wait until next season. I bet UND would give him a scholly and a chance for immediate PT.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
North Dakota?
Yeah, since they aren’t getting Wegher… QBForce is about the same size I guess.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 4, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe, but this looks like the symptom of an even bigger problem.
When you have a “team leader”, a guy the coach brought to Chicago, presumably because he could handle it, publicly calling out the starting quarterback and other team members not to be named, it indicates to me a lack of control, authority, and mutual respect. The one thing it would seem that Michigan needs the most right now is team unity. Clearly it’s not there, and one year removed from the practice scandal, the problem appears to be ongoing and systemic.
A fella steps out for a two pound burrito and all hell breaks loose.
Well, it is Michigan.
Which means, if you are not practicing 23 hours per day in the offseason (and studying tape the other 1 hour), then you are “diseased.”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 3, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it wrong...
…that I grew up in Iowa, went to Iowa, and didn’t know Northern Iowa had a football team until we played them last year? Honestly, does anyone give a shit about anything other than Hawkeye football in that state? Maybe methamphetamines in Des Moines, but other than that…
If Jesus believed himself to be real, he was a Christian AND a Jew. Your bumper sticker is now invalid.
To be fair...
Meth is popular everywhere in Iowa. The book Methland is all about the meth problem in Oelwein. My favorite part about that book though, is where the author claims that Cedar Rapids is the biggest town in Iowa. Fact checker in the house?
There is nothing worse than a sports fan with zero sense of humor.
Touche
Still, when people refer to Des Moines as the meth capital of the USA….
If Jesus believed himself to be real, he was a Christian AND a Jew. Your bumper sticker is now invalid.
At least that means people have heard of Des Moines?
There is nothing worse than a sports fan with zero sense of humor.
Author claimed Iowa City was the largest city in the state
Something about the “relative anonymity” of Iowa’s largest city. Also used ‘mennonite’ and ‘amish’ interchangably and referred to every horse as a Clydesdale. Not a bad book, just some glaring errors that really leaped off the page.
by buttsweatandtears on Aug 3, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Well we had played them before...
…and Iowa State sure as hell knew they existed.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 3, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Before last year, UNI had been to the national finals once, and semi-finals at least twice.
Hell, they beat ISU just a couple years ago. It seems to me that it might take a pretty big effort to NOT know about the team. Not to mention that the HS state tournament is played at the UNI-Dome. This place in Iowa that you grew up in, did they have running water and electricity?
by The Mexican't on Aug 3, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Small clarification
The final two rounds of the HS state tournament is played at the UNI Dome.
by The Mexican't on Aug 3, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Mexican't...
Didn’t we already establish that no one gives a shit about Iowa State? Why would I follow their schedule and/or know about their interactions with UNI? Hey, at least I knew the school existed. That’s a lot more than most!
If Jesus believed himself to be real, he was a Christian AND a Jew. Your bumper sticker is now invalid.
Are you saying that most people that "grew up in Iowa and went to Iowa"
Don’t know that UNI exists?
by The Mexican't on Aug 3, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think TigerHawk...
is just trying to be a bit too pro-Iowa by dismissing UNI football. I’m a UNI grad, and while I thought the comment was a bit dumb, I’ll give him a pass on this one.
If you don’t live in/around Waterloo/Cedar Falls, and if you don’t have relatives that went to UNI, it is pretty easy to ignore the Panthers. I wouldn’t say it is excusable to not know they have a football team, but I can understand it if it isn’t a priority to follow them.
To TigerHawke, most commenters on this site have more fun making fun of ISU, because theoretically, it should be a fair fight. Making fun of an FCS school is really not as worthwhile.
/end rant
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 3, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
UNI
is the little brother you root for and try to help out.
ISU is the little brother you tell to leave you the hell alone because all he does is annoy the crap out of you.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Let me clarify...
I was explaining, through example, that having grown up in the same state I wasn’t aware of UNI’s football team. In stating that I could grow up in the state, and not be cognizant of the team, could mean that there was validity to Clayborn’s statement. That doesn’t mean that I am anti-UNI. In the QC area, the only teams that ever hit the press were Iowa or Illinois. Perhaps my geography led to my intellectual disadvantage. I apologize if my comment was a “bit dumb.”
If Jesus believed himself to be real, he was a Christian AND a Jew. Your bumper sticker is now invalid.
Fair enough.
I forgot how little the QC media cover anything but Hawkeye sports. And I’m sure that the recent Nespaperpocalypse and LocalTelevisionGeddon have only added to the problem.
And like I said, I have several relatives/friends that have gone to UNI, so I’m sure that keeps them closer to the forefront of my mind.
Go Hawks!
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 4, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Say what you will about Klugs non-answers
I will take that any day of the week over Woolfolks trash talking. Ferentz does a real good job of circling the wagons. The Hawkeye plays could hate each others guts for all we know but you will never hear one Hawkeye player slamming another. Another reason that RichRod makes me want to puke. You just know that Bo Schembechler is rolling in his grave. I recant my earlier remarks about beating Michigan not being easy. I now predict that the Hawkeyes will go all Henry Steele on the Wolverines and give it to em all the way up with a red hot poker.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
Is it
even trash talk if you’re dissing your own QB? Trash talk would be like joking around that you’re the only team in the state (yes, I know that’s not what he meant, but I’m talking about purposefully trash talking). This is just insulting the leader of your offense… AT THE CONFERENCE MEDIA DAY…
I am scratching my head about the open politicing by Belema
regarding a Nebby rivalry game. I can only imagine he has some awesome trophy designed already. While the conference elder statesmen cut off questions about conference divisions by passing the decision off to “the commissioner and his brilliant staff who are much smarter about that high level stuff than this poor dumb football coach” the younger coaches are busy tweeting and facebooking their desires for a new conference order. My left brain tells me that Ferentz, Paterno and Tressel will have much more influence behind closed doors than the youngsters will have through public displays while my right brain just wants to surf the web for porn.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
Did you see his presser yesterday?
Bielema’s face looked as red as Wisky’s home uniform. Dude needs to wear some sunscreen.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Was I reading too much into Paterno's remarks
or did he intimate on national TV that he suffered from bladder control problems?
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
I don't think it was his bladder he was having trouble with...
If you catch my drift.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Aug 3, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting that JoPa is no longer a boxers guy?

If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
Snipers?
DJK has snipers trained on him every time he speaks to a member of the press.
That’s weird. I always thought Ferentz was a “handguns at close range” type of guy.

Now, the Charlie Weis days at Notre Dame were known for using snipers to keep players in line. That’s why after Weis was fired, you have the Nate Montana drinking scandal.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
Having a small head
is a decided schematic advantage.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
All this
and NO mention of Ron Zook talking about how he spent his summer water-skiing and buying appliances? The only eye-raising part is where Rittenberg says Zook appeared “uncharacteristically relaxed.” Uncharacteristically??? If there is one constant to the Zooker it is that he is always relaxed, with a kind of Alfred E. Newman “what, me worry?” look on his face as he stupidly assumes that everything is going to work just fine.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Perhaps uncharacteristically relaxed
means “drunk”
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 3, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Or swapped
Some pot for his usual coke hit in the morning.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
How many times
have they caught Rittenberg with the worst expression possible on his face with the freeze-frames in these videos. There’s gotta be some peon junior editor out there just laughing his ass off every time he submits one of these.
Rittenberg...
may not be very photogenic, but at least his writing is OK to good.
Mark Schlabach may make for a better photo, but he writes like he just graduated from the 6th grade.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 3, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Rittenberg does terrific work.
"Kittens give Morbo gas."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 3, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions

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