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INPIYL2I: Iowa's NFL Draft Picks Not Doing So Hot Right Now

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Well, at least it's early: After the 2010 NFL draft, we were cautiously optimistic about the fates of all the Hawkeyes who were drafted this spring. Bryan Bulaga's finally healthy, Amari Spievey and Pat Angerer wreck fools, A.J. Edds and Tony Moeaki are physically ready to step onto an NFL field on day 1, and Kyle Calloway is very large. Y'know, optimism with a healthy dollop of homeriffic sauce.

The thing about that, though, uh... well, let's just go down the list.

The Detroit Lions' scouting department believes the third-round draft pick has a lot of ability and can be a productive player. The coaching staff thinks otherwise.

Even Amari Spievey, who had been banged up, got into the game in the second half (and proceeded to get chewed out by Gunther Cunningham after Antonio Brown blew by him for a TD.)

TE Tony Moeaki has been the biggest disappointment of the Chiefs 2010 draft class because of injuries that have kept him off the practice field. In the off-season, it was a stomach ailment during the off-season program and then he tweaked his right ankle/foot in camp and that cost him 10 days. Moeaki had the same kind of problems at the University of Iowa.

  • Kyle Calloway: The knock on Calloway was his lack of athleticism, but we figured that had to be just a little overblown, part of the clutter of noise that surrounds player evaluation but that doesn't matter quite as much when the games actually begin. Uh, still just a bit of a concern:

I did watch one extended drill in which the linemen were lined up in a cage, in an effort to keep them from standing upright at the snap. Basically, it was a leverage drill. I watched that drill to see explosion out of the stance and hand punch, and the most impressive players there were Andy Levitre and, oddly, Andre Ramsey. I wasn't particularly fond of Jamon Meredith's hand use. Demetrius Bell looked super fluid firing out of his stance. Kyle Calloway was the last lineman to rotate through on every drill, and is by far the least athletic lineman on the team.

That was on August 5, and Buffalo Rumblings hasn't said anything good about Calloway since.

Oh well. They're all still young.

Star-divide

There goes the Big Ten Network, whispering sweet nothings into our ear... and it sounds good: Everybody knows this 2010 Iowa team isn't without its flaws; losing Angerer and Edds to the draft stinks, and who knows what the backfield's going to look like by the middle of the season. But those are generally trivial concerns next to the offensive line, which is one of Iowa's smallest in the Kirk Ferentz era and returns precious few starts from last season. There's one beast in Riley Reiff and, frankly, four reasons we're keeping our fingers crossed.

But the BTN crew seems to disagree, after seeing Iowa practice during their tour of the Big Ten earlier. And here's what Howard Griffith and Gerry Dinardo had to say, according to Scott Dochterman:

"Maybe there are questions on offensive line. I don’t necessarily see them," Griffith said. "When you look at their system and what they do, I think they’re going to be just fine at that position. (Adam) Gettis, the right guard, I think is going to be an outstanding player for them. I think they’ve got everything in place to make some things happen for them this year.

"I saw a lot of talent. I see them run a lot of plays over and over again. That’s a good thing," said DiNardo, a former All-American lineman at Notre Dame. "Their skill set is constantly worked over and over. Kirk (Ferentz) is obviously involved because of his offensive line background."

Now, look. It's obviously in the BTN's (and the BXI's) best interests to talk up Iowa's line instead of cast genuine doubt on their ability to perform this season. They want fans in that state of ubiquitous summer optimism, not marking games off as losses.

But at the same time, that is the reality of the situation in the camps themselves; everyone is still undefeated, and there is the chance that any offensive line, or any unit, on any team, will or won't click. Some are more likely than others, but this is still college football, one of the least predictable* sports game-to-game and year-to-year. And if the BTN analysts are right about Iowa's line being better than we've given them credit for, well, look out.

Miscellaneous preseason profiles: Dochterman fluffs Mike Daniels, Morehouse fluffs Jeff Tarpinian, and the UI propaganda site fluffs a few freshmen. Still haven't looked "fluff" up on Urban Dictionary. I'm sure we're fine.

4 FAST 4 FURIOUZ

You're standing right now with nine delegates from 100 tailgates. And there's over a hundred more. That's 20,000 hardcore Hawkeye fans. Forty-thousand, counting the Magic Bus crowd, and twenty-thousand more, not organized, but ready to drink: 60,000 tailgaters! Now, there ain't but 20,000 police in the whole town! Can you dig it? Can you dig it??? Can you dig iiiiitttt!!!!

Iowa has multiple players on 11W's list of the best players Ohio State will face this season. How many players? Which ones? Where on their list? Therein lies the mystery, reader!

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: If you're going to pass out naked in a random stranger's house--and let's be honest, readers, we're not putting that past most of you--your response to the inevitable arrival of the police should not be assuming a three-point stance and charging said policemen; that will get you tased, thrown in jail, and kicked off your football team. TMYK!

And finally, A Beastie Boys and Will Smith mashup about outer space? Yes indeed:

BONUS MASHUP COVERAGE IF YOU'RE TOO COOL FOR THE NEW WILLENIUM: Eazy-E and Johnny Cash.

 

*Just so you know, I can't back this up at all. But it sounds right.

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fluff=gross
(We need female reporters, and I don’t care what kind of questions they ask so long as they don’t look like Pam Ward.) That is all.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 24, 2010 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

If you don't like fluff

Try some duck butter dressing the next time you’re tossing a salad.

btw, I seriously considered the screen name Dirty Sanchez at one point.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Aug 24, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know what duck butter is, but I don't toss salads, so...

…but doesn’t Dirty Sanchez play semi-pro ball for the Cleveland Steamers?

Watch out for the Alaskan Pipeline.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 24, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cash/Eazy

Is amazing.

"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Hawkeye State

Off Tackle Empire

by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 24, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

It is getting downloaded as soon as I get home today.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Aug 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some guys once rapped together, ’til one met his end,

and now the other guys do movies, without their friend,

Well, I shot a man on Crenshaw, just to watch him die.

But that dude had the AIDS, and nobody asked why.

/Cryptically Cash’d out.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 24, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Within the Oregon State story's commentary

sits one of if not THE greatest parody of the Bud Light “Real Men of Genius” commercials I have ever encountered! I would link, but at my old, decrepit age (30 today), I am no longer savvy enough to work this new-fangled technology.

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Aug 24, 2010 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Automatic HTML formatting FAIL.

I reiterate the age-related comment stated above.

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Aug 24, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel your pain.

I will turn 31 29 for the third time in 15 days.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on Aug 24, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually like to center my age

I usually just say i’m 40 (because I’m a man, I’m 40) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjF93E4LjlA
I’ll be 40 from 38 till 42.

by HawkeyePapyrus on Aug 24, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

To wit:

Your age doesn’t make you incompetent at internets, and it’s a cop-out to blame something other than your inability or unwillingness to learn.

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Aug 25, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then...

Thank goodness I done got smart reall good. I always knew I learned gooder than most.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on Aug 25, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, of course it's a cop-out.

That much I will admit. It just seemed convenient at the time.

(crawls back into cave)

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Aug 28, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

If someone would just make that into an actual video now.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Aug 24, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

So the Chefs knew about Moeaki's problems

And then bitch about him? Well, I guess they aren’t bitching. But I mean…c’mon. That’s like drafting Maurice Clarett and then finding it disappointing that he has a poor attitude.

A Voice From Kinnick - A Hawkeye Blog

by mikjones24 on Aug 24, 2010 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

That's apparently what happens

when you throw a bunch of football players under the control of gourmet cooks.

/Chef’d

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Aug 24, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amari Spievey

is a cuationary tale for Iowa players who think one decent year in college is enough. He propbably cost himself some dollars by leaving early, maybe a lot in fact. But most importantly, he needed to refine and while I know this is classic retro analysis, I am sure he was told by KF and Norm that he needed another year. I hope he pulls it together but what I have been reading is not encouraging. He already sounds like a guy who needs new pastures.

I buy BTN’s analysis of the O-line. There is NO reason for them to puff that part of the team up. It has often been the case on teams where your match-ups in practice on a daily basis can lift you up or hurt you. It sounds like Clayborn and CO. are helping the development of the line. Although, I hope the D-line is not regressing as a result.

Now, let’s hope our secondary is making Stanzi a better QB.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Aug 24, 2010 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Amari knew what he was talking about when he said....

Don’t you realize? The next time you see sky, it’ll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it’ll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what’s right for them. Because it’s their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it’s our time. It’s our time down here. That’s all over the second we ride up Troy’s bucket.

the trailer hitch scrotum was my idea

by Kluginator on Aug 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

(puffs inhaler)


"All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again."

by Bucketochicken on Aug 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

That. Was. Beautiful.

You see what I did there? Yeeeaaaaaahhhh.

by hkobb7 on Aug 24, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kluginatoooor!!!

You, Gooooonie!!!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Aug 25, 2010 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly, Amari has a young child that he has taken full responsibilty of raising.

If I were a borderline high draft pick after a unbelieveable season, I think I would cash in my chips, too. A responsible thing to do if you consider all of the factors and the potential to have 1) a worse season, or 2) injury before next year’s draft. Even if he had room for improvement at Iowa, I trust that he made the right decision for himself.

by Pubes in Pink Urinals on Aug 24, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob Stoops has done the math (from the Denver Post website)

“Let me show you something,” he said.

He walked to his desk and pulled a single sheet from a three-ring binder. It listed the average signing bonuses of all seven rounds from the 2009 draft:
first round — $13 million;
second — $2.1 million;
third — $720,000;
fourth — $460,000;
fifth — $171,500;
sixth — $$96,900;
seventh — $47,000.

“Here’s what people don’t get,” he said. "The average career in the NFL is 3 1/2 years. You need to maximize in that 3 1/2-year window to make as much as you can make because this money doesn’t come back to you.

“If you settle for this,” as he points to $2.1 million, “and you had a chance to be that,” as he points to $13 million, “you’re not making that up.”

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Aug 24, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's some very selective use of statistics by Mr. Stoops, and he knows it.

But I am le tired. I’ll pursue that argument tomorrow.

Ceci n'est pas un blogue.

by Adam Jacobi on Aug 25, 2010 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes and no

it’s true that if you play like a rock star during your first contract, you will get mucho dinero in the second. It is also true that more than a few rock stars suffered career ending injuries before their second contract.

The signing bonuses are only half the story though. The guaranteed money in the rest of the contract is just as spendable, and makes the gap even wider. So a first rounder who plays like a first rounder, thus getting a nice second contract, will always be ahead of a 2nd or 3rd rounder who plays like a first rounder due to the $10 – $20 million he didn’t earn early on.

What I’ve always wondered though is about that 3.5 year average. How skewed is that because of all the scrubs who wash out early? If we saw a graph, would it be really heavy on the left, then bottom out for awhile until the guys hit about 30, then climb again?

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Aug 25, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The real difference maker?

How much of that money do you spend?

If you live in a giant house in a highly-taxed area, and if you have a wife that loves to travel and spend your cash, then you may not have much left if you are outside the first round.

However, if you buy a sensible but nice home, and you don’t throw barrels of cash at everything you want (like a super-luxury car), then you might have enough that, even if your career ends in 2 or 3 years due to injury, you can still finish school/buy a business/start a nice career after your NFL days are over.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 25, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot #3

The looming spectre of a rookie salary cap or other pay structure changes reducing the salary of all rookies. It will probably only effect those at the top of the draft, but who knows what will happen. So even more reason to strike now, the draft class of 2011 will probably see numbers different from what Stoops pointed out in the link from SMA.

by PackerHawk on Aug 25, 2010 4:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hrm...

I thought the fact the pros ranked, and took Spievey early last year, would mean he’d be pretty set for the next level…but if he’s having problems with Detroit…

It would certainly have been nice to have Bulaga and Spievey on this season’s Iowa team, but can’t dwell on the “what ifs”. It’s like wondering what would have happened last year if Greene had a repeat 2008 season. Heisman? National Championship? Who knows?

by edr247 on Aug 24, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Wait...

…someone is having problems after being drafted by Detroit? No way!

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 24, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent point, EyeHeart.

That Detroit coaching staff won TWO DAMN GAMES last year. Those two wins? Against Washington and Cleveland, who were both very close to full-meltdown mode when they played Detroit. I will not take their opinion as some sort of gospel.

And while I usually don’t question Gunther Cunningham, the dude was 16-16 as a head coach, and hasn’t gotten a head gig since the Chefs. When he was the Chefs’ DC in 2008, they ranked 31 out of 32 teams in total defense. Maybe he isn’t as great an expert without Derrick Thomas shooting beers and sacking punks.

While I will live if Spievey doesn’t start for a year or two as he learns, I will be very angry if the rest of the NFL decides to trust Detroit’s very-questionable judgment and nobody gives him another chance should he not work out with the Lions.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 24, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That organization is a joke.

Look how many careers they have ruined throughout the years.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on Aug 25, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Spievey's problem is system-related

Gunther Cunningham is known for running a wide variety of stuff on defense. Spievey might be facing a steep learning curve, given that he’s played one year in a cover 2-only scheme and some JUCO time.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 24, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

scheme is probably why Angerer is running 3rd string too

even though Indy is pretty vanilla and not that different from what Iowa runs, there’s a significant enough difference in assignment between cover-2 and tampa-2 for the MLB that Angerer is going to need some time. Hopefully he’ll get that extra deep coverage drop down pretty quickly.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov

by shake n bake on Aug 24, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all topic related

But I had to look 3 times before I realized you’d begun using your legal name. I thought someone had stolen the avatar. Should we expect another promotion announcement?

by The Mexican't on Aug 24, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holy Balls!

Pat-RICK? You guys, Hawkeye State is totally Stanzi!

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 24, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I'm from Vinton.

Eerie!


"All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again."

by Bucketochicken on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

No promotion

There might be a bigger announcement at some point, but as of this morning, yes, I have a legal name.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 24, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You do not look like a Patrick.

Can I call you Paddy?

Turn your crank to Frank!

by ReadingRambler on Aug 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

van prick tit?

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Aug 25, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can trip VT?

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Aug 25, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

…we should be looking for you as American Idol’s new replacement-for-the-replacement judge? Kill em all.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 24, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

My god

So you aren’t wanted by the police and hiding on the internet?

(Congratulations, pre-congrats, or whatever is appropriate)

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 24, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adam Jacobi, Patrick Vint, and Jeremiah Weed.

If you guys play instruments, you should start a band called “The Hawkeye Compulsion.”

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 24, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

So was 2008 JuCo?

Because I’ll assume that 2009 wasnt

by PackerHawk on Aug 24, 2010 9:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You're right, that should be two years in a cover-2. My bad.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 25, 2010 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Spievey

was at the Broncos Lions game over the wknd (50 yrd line for a preseason game – yeah!) and it seemed to me that Amari did just fine. granted the QB was Brady Quinn, but still… don’t recall any glaring mistakes by Spievey.

by KentuckyThunderPussy on Aug 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Spievey will be fine

That article was written a couple weeks into camp when he was suffering from a hip injury and wasn’t able to demonstrate what he can do. He is better than Godfrey and Fletcher, and over time that will be demonstrated.

by StevenDS on Aug 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Over time"

could be two years….but he’s cashing a big check so good for him.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Aug 24, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

DiNardo and Griffith

They can sound like goofballs on the air sometime, but they know their football.

DiNardo has a lifetime of coaching experience, and Griffith played in the pros for a decade and in probably the best zone blocking scheme ever.

I put a LOT more stock in what they have to say about football scouting, especially the offensive line, than I would from someone like Herbstreit or Stewartt Mandel.

by StevenDS on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

At least Herbstreit played

Nothing personal against Mandel, I like his stuff but the guys who actually played or coached at a high level understand the game on an entirely different level than those of us who didn’t. Especially if they were a coach.

The BTN guys have an advantage that they only watch 11 teams. They can really get to know them, and they probably have decent connections with each school to get some inside info. The national guys have to follow the top 25 somewhat closely plus try and keep an eye on another handful. There’s no way you can have intelligent opinions on that many teams.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Aug 24, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

and they probably have decent connections with each school to get some inside info

Yea, 7 million dollars a year helps open some doors. I have no problems at all with this, the money rolling in from BTN should grant them access greater than anyone else.

Disclaimer – Mandel and Staples are the only guys I read for information and College Gameday (football) is the only show on ESPN I find worthy to watch because of Herbstreit and Coach. Now if they could do something about Desmond Howard…

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi

by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 24, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

What you talkin' 'bout Bacon?

College Football Live, especially when Jesse Palmer is on, is the most valuable show about college football. Where else can one go for constant regurgitation of the conventional wisdom (SEC GOOD!!!), fluffing of the hot coach/player of the moment, and the never contradictory reporting of Joe Schad!?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 24, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yesterday's College Football Live

Was godawful. Erin Andrews plus Jesse Palmer’s hair plus SEC SEC SEC SEC (Big East interlude) SEC was just….terrible. Same thing today, but I only made it halfway through.

You see what I did there? Yeeeaaaaaahhhh.

by hkobb7 on Aug 24, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

addendum

I will watch college football wrap up with Lou and Mark May. Lou is pure entertainment because anything will come out of his mouth. Then of course MM will have to completely disagree with whatever Dr. Lou just said. By about week 10 Lou could say the sky was blue over a game and MM would immediately say it was green.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi

by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 24, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually kind of like the wrap-up show...

with Rece, Lou, and May.

But the afternoon College Football Live is brutally, terribly, horribly, awfully, putridly, stupidly bad. For my money, Eric Kuselias has a face that is almost as punchable as Jimmy Claussen’s.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 24, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

NICE
Eric Kuselias has a face that is almost as punchable as Jimmy Claussen’s.

+1

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on Aug 25, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't help

That he’s turned into a complete SEC homer as well

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 25, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

A thousand times this. That is one of the biggest differences in the coverage on the BTN and ESPN – commentators who know what the hell they are talking about.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Aug 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not defending the ESPN guys, but their job is much more entertainment based in a very cluttered landscape. The BTN guys have a different audience.

by txhawkeye on Aug 24, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone's job on the t.v. is entertainment...

…television gave up the rights to “reporting” and “journalism” years ago (I know it just sounds like me complaining, but it is actually written into these channels’ business models as “entertainment”- – even the news shows, and I’m not kidding).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 24, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's fine...

but if you only cover the same 13 teams (CF Live does), then you need to sound informed, too.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 24, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, their bosses just think you need to LOOK informed.

What you say is practically irrelevant to the heads of broadcasting.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 25, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your bosses mostly just think you need to look pretty (EA, Palmer) and string words together in English that don’t necessarily make sense.

by txhawkeye on Aug 25, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to believe these guys, really I do...

…but doesn’t their praise sound a lot like KF’s talking points? I mean, Gettis? He was getting used at the Kid’s Day practice.
I hope they’re right. I want to believe they’re right. Okay, I believe them (kind of).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Calloway was a 7th rounder

It’s probably less than 50-50 that he makes it. Doesn’t sound as thought he’s winning anyone over.

If Bulaga breaks in at guard, I just hope it’s at the expense of Daryn Colledge’s roster spot. He’s been a bust.

I wonder about Spievey. I’m not saying he should’ve stayed. I’m surprised at his struggles.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Aug 24, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Bulaga at Guard

Bulagag is playing at Guard b/c the Packers are trying to get the 5 best lineman on the field at once. The current LT, Clifton, is likely gone after this year and Bulaga will then slide over.

by Enoch on Aug 24, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

Moving him to guard is more of a compliment than an indication of struggles as I interpret it. Basically it sounds the coaches are saying exactly what Enoch is saying, the guy is good and he needs to be on the field. He will get kicked around for a while, happens to most linemen, welcome to the next level.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi

by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 24, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's how I saw it too

They’re not saying he can’t play tackle, they’re saying that he’s been so good so far that he deserves the chance to compete for a starting spot, rather than remaining as a backup at tackle. Guard is the quickest way to get him on the field, and the best way to shore up a weak spot in their o-line. It doesn’t say anything about his long term future at tackle.

by NorseHawk on Aug 24, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

So essentially the same result as with Gallery

but for the exact opposite reason

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Aug 24, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

And they are still practicing him at tackle too. He spent a lot of time in the most recent preseason game against Seattle at LT and looked very good.

Reports on Spievey have been very inconsistent. The media really seems to be overblowing things though. Recently after practice a couple of days ago, his coach said:

“"Amari is starting to come on a little bit. He’s (been) injured and missed a lot of time and got behind. I think we’re still seeing a lot of rookie inconsistencies from Amari. He’ll make a flashy play and then have another one that doesn’t look so good. He just needs to work really on being more consistent. He’s got good tools, he’s tough, he’s physical; it’s just the things of knowing the scheme inside and out and just knowing all of the situations and things like that. It’s tough on a rookie and he’s in that boat."
"

by Tophawkeye on Aug 24, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Many Packer fans are hoping to get something for Colledge in a trade because Bulaga is doing so well.

by HeartOfHawkness on Aug 24, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Calloway usually didn't look...

too athletic at Iowa, either.

Also, maybe Buffalo should worry about finding a few more athletes for their first string before picking nits about the third string.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Aug 24, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's Buffalo

They like to play the “blame game.”

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on Aug 25, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

C’mon, this is the team that hired Chan Gailey to be coach. What could possibly go wrong?

by txhawkeye on Aug 25, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spievey struggled with Iowa at first too

Perhaps he just needs to refind that fire in his belly.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Aug 24, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's had a lot of late nights.

Infant at home and all (presumably).


"All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again."

by Bucketochicken on Aug 24, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or maybe he needs to start eating more "Red Hots."

That should put the fire back in his belly!

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on Aug 24, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great quote from the Doc piece:
"He only has one mode, and that’s beast mode when he’s out there he’s throwing people around," Binns said. "You guys have got to watch out for Mike Daniels this year. He’ll get a lot of playing time."

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 24, 2010 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Love me some mashup

Super Mash Bros. will be in Iowa City next thurs and it will be glorious. Some guy named Big Boi will be there too and I heard he can rap.

Gotta get up to get down

by Gustav on Aug 24, 2010 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

That 11Ws article was exactly what I should have expected from an OSU site

An article about the best 11 players who they’ll play next year…and most of the write ups basically say the same thing…this guy is good…well not as good as us…but still he’s decent.

by HawKCP on Aug 25, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

There’s nothing like a backhanded compliment to get the juices flowing.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on Aug 25, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

example: nice profile pic - for a blue guy

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi

by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 26, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

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