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Preseason BlogpLOL: The Search for Schlock

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I'm not going to say we changed the world last year with the BlogpLOL; for one, I'm almost certain no other site has taken up the cause and adopted our method of resume ranking.  But it caused some debate, and it exposed some flaws in the polling system, both in the Blogpoll and those other polls that actually matter.  We never had a chance to write up our final top 25, so without further ado, a quick glance back to where we agreed with the voters and where we didn't.

The knock on our early polling was that it created ridiculous ballots; the response to that outrage was that eventually, we should all see the same results.  For the most part, that is exactly what happened, and it happened with a week to spare.  The final BHGPoll had the same top 10 as the final Blogpoll at large.  In fact, shockingly, after routinely winning Mr. Manic-Depressive for wild swings in the poll, we picked up Mr. Stubborn in the last poll of the season by a huge margin.  This was not because we were actually stubborn, but because the poll was an amazingly accurate predictor of bowl season.  Unlike many of our brethren, we had Ohio State three spots ahead of Oregon before the Rose Bowl.  We had Penn State eight places higher than LSU.  We had Iowa over Georgia Tech.  It is the triumph of the BHGPoll that on-field performance, when objectively observed, trumped preconceived notions about the strength of the Big Ten in general or teams like Pittsburgh and LSU in particular.

We're adjusting this year ever so slightly.  In particular, we are changing the formula to factor in performance on the road.  We're currently working with a team of actuaries (no, I'm not kidding) on how to best factor in the number of games played, which could remove some of the wild swings we saw last season from Pac-10 and Big East teams that take early bye weeks and play games into December.  But the guts of the poll will remain mostly intact:  Losses are exponentially more important as they accrue.  Quality of opposition is just as important as quantity of points, and that calculation is based solely on what that opposition has done to date.  Strength of schedule trumps all.


As for the preseason poll, it's a shot in the dark.  We have no idea if Alabama can replace all those starters on defense, but it's Nick Saban and a boatload of talent, so we'll cast our lot with him.  We're worried about the quarterback situations at Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, and even Ohio State (well, at least one of us is worried about OSU).  Wisconsin at #3 is absurdly high to most, but there is a lot to like about this Badger squad: Veteran line, possibly the best quarterback of the Bielema era in Scott Tolzien, John Clay and Monte Ball running up the gut.  If they have any semblance of a defense (and I'm certainly not yet sold on Bielema's ability to build one from scratch just yet), they could very well win the Big Ten.  We like Miami mostly because they're Miami.  If North Carolina can stay off the NCAA scanner, they have enough talent (especially on defense) to win the ACC and contend on the bigger stage.  We don't understand the love for Nebraska or the lack of it for Washington.  And Middle Tennessee State goes in simply as a good luck wish for when the Blue Raiders open the season as 4-point favorites at home over Minnesota.  Yes, you read that correctly.

Iowa at #7, where they ended last season, feels proper.  Until we've seen the new offensive line in action, there have to be questions about the Hawkeyes' ability to move the ball, and defense can only do so much.  With that said, if we're even close to correct in this poll (and I'll save you the suspense: We aren't), a strong start would have Iowa right at the top; there are few tougher schedules in the country than a Big Ten slate free of Illinois and Purdue, coupled with a non-conference date in the desert in the dead of night.    For now, it's all speculation, and it's all thrown out the window the second the ball is kicked.  Long live BlogpLOL.

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Boise vs VaTech

a bit surprised with VaTech getting 3 pts at a night game in Blacksburg. as much as they are continually overrated, really really hoping the Hokies get it done. otherwise Boise is essentially in the BCS title game before Iowa even plays a meaningful game.

by KentuckyThunderPussy on Aug 18, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

The game isn't in Blacksburg

It’s at FedEx Field. They still have to get by Oregon State and the Rogers brothers. And they have to avoid a stumble in WAC play. Don’t give them a birth in the MNC yet.

Besides a 12-0 Iowa will beat Boise in the computers and won’t be more than a spot or two behind them in the polls. Depending on how Iowa does in the big games, they could jump Boise in the human polls too.

How many years has Boise been undefeated and failed to go to the MNC because there were 2 undefeated BCS teams ahead of them?

by PackerHawk on Aug 18, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

FedEX Field is "neutral"

Like playing NIU in Soldier Field a few years ago was “neutral”. That is a de facto home game for VA Tech.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 18, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I totally understand that

But I’d imagine even the nominal neutrality factors into the betting line.

by PackerHawk on Aug 18, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

My apologies in advance. Getting a “birth” in the MNC made me laugh, slip o’ the keyboard though it was. Thanks for that.

by txhawkeye on Aug 18, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I post too much when I’ve been drinking. I cann spellz moast of the thyme.

by PackerHawk on Aug 18, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say +1

But those bathrooms are too nasty even for that.

Me gustan los estados unidos.

by hkobb7 on Aug 18, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll also go on record here of saying that they will have problems with Nevada

Nevada may have beaten them last year if all three of their 1000 yard rushers were healthy. The game is in Reno this year, and if Boise is undefeated and believing their own press Nevada will beat them. Boise has never really been able to stop the Nevada offense and with a 4 year starter running that offense with 9 returning starters, the Wolf Pack will be a load on offense. Expect another WAC shootout.

by PackerHawk on Aug 18, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's half of the new BigTen in the opening BHGPoll,

Better prepare to get bounced by Poll Master Cook, again, due to obvious regional bias, Smugbama.

Poll looks about as good as any other pre-season poll. MTSU above GT and Washington is interesting (especially as a “good luck wish”), but I don’t know enough about MTSU to call you crazy.

by The Mexican't on Aug 18, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Aug 18, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I saw Fight For Iowa talking about the BlogPLOL a couple weeks back...

…and thought it was odd we hadn’t heard anything here.
I really made me wonder if you’d pissed off enough people last year that you got the JoePa treatment and didn’t get invited back. I guess you have to puke in the punchbowl before you get banned (and “if it’s gonna be that kind of party, Imma stick my dick in the mashed potatos”).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Where is the love for jNW

coming from? Is it just because they find a way to beat Iowa on an all too frequent basis? Haven’t they lost more than most from last year?

the trailer hitch scrotum was my idea

by Kluginator on Aug 18, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Hell if I know

OK, my theory on Northwestern is that they have a quarterback who really fits their system well, some skill position talent (in a jNWU sense) and absolutely nothing on their schedule before November. So they have enough to get them through the non-conference while the line and defense coalesces. It’s enough to get them 9 wins.

Now, will it happen? Of course not. After all, they’re still just Northwestern.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 19, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Houston is WAY to low

if this was an EA Sports NCAA 2010 poll. I could beat almost anyone with that team. I tortured Alabama players with that passing attack. It wasn’t even fair.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Aug 18, 2010 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

That is the first post you've ever made

that may hint at you being under the age of 50.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or he's read about them in The Economist.

We keeeed, we keeeed!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Aug 20, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm interested to see who will be # 1 after the first week.

I know Air Force grabbed the honor last year after smashing someone 72-0.

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Aug 18, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I will be honest

I laughed out loud when I saw Wisconsin’s ranking.

Nevertheless, I salute this effort.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 18, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Hawkeye State has it SO bad for Wisky there's got to be something else to it.

Here are my working theories:

1. He’s trying to hook up with a UW alumnus or
2. He’s trying to hook up a member of the Bielema family
3. He got confused and think Alvarez is still coaching them
4. This is all part of an elaborate plan to raise expectations to a unattainable level just to get a Wisky friend/relative over-confident so he can crush them and win money off them this year.
5. He actually thinks Wisky is a top 5 team nationally

I find 5 to be wholly unbelievable.

by Internet Legend on Aug 19, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Wisconsin was

pretty much beating us down until a) Clay got hurt and b) Bielema inexplicably pulled Tolzien just when he was really humming (and as a younger coach, Bielema is making mistakes but learning from them as opposed to Les Miles who is apparently just an idiot). Add that to the fact that they outplayed tOSU and absolutely dominated Miami and you can see why many are so high on them.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Aug 19, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like...

Wiscy gets uber credit for beating up on Miami and we don’t really get much for threshing GT. I think it has to do with the fact that the Wiscy/Miami game was the moment during the Big Ten dominance on Jan 1 that people could point to as their “holy shit the Big Ten doesn’t suck” moment. Whereas the Iowa/GT game was after the fact and nobody really cared much at that point.

by HawKCP on Aug 20, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

What should be even better than seeing who's #1 after Week 1

is seeing the reaction from the other blogs to who’s #1… I honestly can’t wait

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Aug 18, 2010 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

??? about your ranking at #2

Alright, you made reference briefly to your rationale for ’bama at #1 and Wisky at #2.

I am wondering what led to the high ranking for Oklahoma?
They didn’t finish in the Top 25 last year and lost 3 of the top 4 players taken in the NFL draft. Do they really have that much talent coming back? What’s with the Sooner love?

by MIhawk on Aug 19, 2010 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

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