Broderick Binns Arrested For Drunk Driving, PLUS IMPORTANT LEBRON NEWS
Not good news from Iowa City this morning, as Iowa will almost certainly be without the services of starting defensive end Broderick Binns for at least the first couple games. According to Dochtermann at the Gazette, Binns was popped early this morning for OWI:
According to the police complaint, Binns was driving a gold 2003 Dodge Durango and was pulled over for driving straight through a left turn lane near the intersection of Benton Street and Greenwood Drive and an equipment violation. Binns allegedly had watery eyes, smelled of alcohol and had impaired speech and balance. His preliminary breath test was .097, above Iowa’s .08 standard for drunken driving.
Binns won’t turn 21 for another two weeks but allegedly was wearing a wristband provided for over-21 patrons in downtown Iowa City, according to the police complaint. An Iowa City law went into effect June 1 that prohibits under-21 customers from Iowa City bars after 10 p.m.
Now look, driving drunk is never "okay." We're not going to condone Binns' actions, and he'll deserve every bit of punishment that befalls him on and off the field. But if one were to think up a hypothetical scenario in which the severity of the DUI was minimized (as DUIs go, anyway), this would be close to it. Binns was barely over the legal limit, not driving recklessly (if the left turn he went through on Benton is Orchard St., that lane gets driven through all. the. time.), and he was apparently about a block from home. We'd be shocked if Binns gets more than the minimum OWI penalty.
In fact, the more curious aspect of this arrest would be Binns' wristband. If the police charge him with violating the 21+ ordinance, Binns would be the second Iowa athlete to run afoul of that ordinance since it went into place last month. Jewel Hampton, as you'll recall, received a massive fine for it, and Binns may very well too.
Thus, it seems as if the ordinance has an unintended consequence: as long as football (and to a lesser extent, basketball) players are the only famous students in town, they're going to be the only group of students that bouncers will look the other way to let in. And thus, athletes will be disproportionately affected by this ordinance. Which isn't to say it's "anti-athlete," by any stretch--nobody's putting a gun to these kids' heads and pushing them into the bar--but no matter how famous these 20-and-under players are (and how few drinks they pay for, seeing as how this is Iowa City), they're betting $735 no cops'll check their ID every time they go downtown. Not a wise bet, that.
But uh, back to the lecture at hand. If Binns is suspended--and he certainly ought to be--his replacement at left DE is one Lebron Daniel. OMG LEBRON TO START AT IOWA OMG OMG. Okay, sorry.
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In many ways Binns may be the key to a successful Iowa season
yet part of me would like to see him kicked off the team. I have no ill will towards him and would hate to see what that sort of action would have on the ability of this team to compete at a high level, but I think the message could be very valuable in the long-term.
You are part of a team. Your actions affect your teammates, your community and your family as well as yourself. You’ve been given a gift…don’t fuck it up.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Wow.
I thought I was being harsh about this, but thrown off the team? As near as I can tell, this is his first strike. Yes, it is a bad one, but I think a suspension of 2 to 6 games should suffice.
Oh, and don’t you like how OPS cleverly assured himself some serious internet traffic on BHGP today by adding the words “IMPORTANT LEBRON NEWS” ?
We are all witnesses, to Jacobi’s genius business sense.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
No, he won't be thrown off the team
and I said part of me would like to see it. However, while it’s Broderick’s first strike you can’t act as though there isn’t significant precedent set for how damaging this type of behavior is to the program. The Iowa football team is no longer just scrutinized locally, but held under a national microscope. There is now a reputation (fair or not) for Kirk Ferentz (and the University of Iowa as a whole) failing to control athetes’ behavior. If these kids haven’t been preemptively read the riot act I’m not sure what is going on.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 9, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Shit man, it's indefensible, but some clarity can be brought to the conversation...
…when you think about the fact that the guy is 20. Are most 20 year olds “mature”? Did you listen to everything your parents/coaches/professors/local city counsel had to say when you were 20? Hell no.
Also, these guys come from hometowns (mostly) where they’ve gotten in trouble many times and had nearly everyone brush it under the rug. They also come from big cities where they were just another punk kid, and now they’re put into the fishbowl where everything they do is noticed by everyone.
Of course I’m talking about the bar thing, because the driving while drunk thing is STUPID considering he could probably get a free ride from damn near anyone in town (Call a teammate for god sakes!). It’s just unnecessary.
On the flipside, I find it interesting how cops find out a guy has been to the bar, and may try to bust him for that. Isn’t that like the cops admitting FAILure? Isn’t the point of the ordinance to keep underage folks out of bars? How does an ex post facto punishment accomplish this? What does it do to students when the cops either see them as an ATM (quick cash) or as a potential threat that must be met with force that isn’t appropriate for the infraction (cuz they appear to be jacked up on No-Doze and Jaeger-Bombs)?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
How is he being punished ex post facto?
Come to think of it isn’t everybody punished ex post facto since we first need to commit the offense?
He was caught drunk driving and charged with DUI.
Wearing a wrist band means nothing (except that he was wearing a wrist band) without further investigation; talking to witnesses, bartenders, whoever that can place him in the bar, drinking AND after the age curfew. ICPD isn’t going to do that. So unless he was a complete idiot and blabbed about where he was and when he skates on that one.
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
suicide
only offense for which you can’t be punished
Too high? What do you mean too high?
by The Bacon Explosion on Jul 9, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, I was just trying to sound like a smarty...
…and remember that term (perhaps incorrectly) from late high school and early college government classes. My point was that I don’t think it would be fair to punish him for the bar thing when the cops obviously weren’t enforcing the bar law very closely, but to see a guy wearing a bar wrist band and then to charge him for that too (though no one in enforcement saw him there) would be bullshit and they would just be raising funds for the city (which is where the ex-post facto thing came from).
I didn’t mean to imply that they shouldn’t have pulled over a suspected drunk driver, just that ICPD only seems to do their job when they feel like it, and then they tack on every money-magnet law that may or may not have been broken… well, it’s just shoddy law enforcement.
For the driving infraction they can throw the book at him (I hate when rich folks get off the hook as much as I hate when athletes get off nearly scott free because of their status) but anything else would be stretching their authority (in my opinion).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Ex Post Facto laws:
A law ratified after an act with the intent to make said act illegal, thereby punishing an individual for an action which, at the time committed, was not illegal.
Also, University Heights and IC cops are much like Marion police in that they all think they’re Dirty Harry or John McClane if they make more than three traffic/OWI stops in an hour.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
You don't have to agree with me
but this:
also, these guys come from hometowns (mostly) where they’ve gotten in trouble many times and had nearly everyone brush it under the rug.
is just a sweeping generalization with next to no supportable evidence. Does that scenario play out? Sure, just as there are great basketball players that come from single-parent upbringings. But does that mean that it’s true of most of them?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It is difficult to argue with Eyeheart’s equation:
youth + booze + anecdote + ( stereotyping / possible racism ) + outrage at law enforcement = irrefutable opinion.
I use this formula often myself.
And yes, I am being sarcastic. I must agree with McCann’t.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is my version.
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/article_f2e4dd12-89f0-11df-b54c-001cc4c03286.html
anecdote that affects my hometown + IC resident = All IC residents are criminals.
(yes, this is sarcasm).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough...
…check the KCRG.com site and you’d see the same thing, only it’s folks from Chicagoland who are importing gangs, murder, ect. to our once quiet community. Whatever. That sample size is so much bigger, which makes it even more ludicrous (To say everyone from Chicago is bad…what? That’s a lot of criminals.)
Anyway, I didn’t mean to suggest that all athletes get to walk down easy street. Just that I’m sickened sometimes the way the cops treat the youth of Iowa City.
Mostly it was at the thought that they’d go after him for the wrist band. I mean, for fuck sakes, it was thirsty thursday, when the most underage people are out (at least in my experience). So why weren’t the cops IN the bars that night? Maybe they were waiting outside looking for kids to taser?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
They were University Heights cops.
There aren’t any bars inside their jurisdiction.
America, you're looking good: handsome, free and tall.
by Close Shave America on Jul 9, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I missing something here?
Isn’t the 21-only ordinance an IOWA CITY law? If so, what right does University Heights have to make such a charge?
"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid
I don't get how UH cops pulled him over
If he did indeed run through that turn lane at Orchard he never went through UH from downtown, and wouldn’t until he crossed Sunset.
There’s really no reason to go anywhere near UH going from downtown to the Benton ’hood.
It was the Benton/Greenwood Dr. intersection.
And HawkOnRails,the issue is the OWI. That law applies no matter what city/town/incorporated 6-block area you’re driving through.
America, you're looking good: handsome, free and tall.
by Close Shave America on Jul 9, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Not most of them, but most definitely some of them.
Having said that, everyone makes mistakes. Own it, take your punishment, learn from it, and move on.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I agree...
…it’s a flimsy, opinionated argument. But we’ve all seen it so many times it’s at least a half-truth too (How many think Miami [Fla.]were/are a bunch of thugs who can’t take their own collegiate exams? Are the bad actions of a few true of all? No, I’m sure a few of the Semen-oles are good guys. Has it made for a fairly consistent patern over the last couple decades? Yeah.)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
if we’re talking about “The U”, then generalize away. Lousy thugs.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
In all fairness,
The 30 for 30 documentary about the U was pretty explicit in that a lot of the players were a touch thuggish, if I remember right, even though the film painted Miami’s football team in a pretty positive light.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
Yeah.
I was referring to their football program, not the movie “The U.”
Although I have seen that, and it was interesting. I thought they showed some of the bad and the good about the Canes.
I have also seen a movie about the drug problem in Miami/south Florida in the 70s and 80s, called Cocaine Cowboys. It really makes me wonder what type of influence and possible connections that the dealers had with these athletes. Or maybe I’m glad that I don’t know.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not necessarily true
Win and the scrutiny about off-field misconduct, especially nationally, greatly diminishes. See for example Florida and Urban Meyer.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Florida...
…that’s just because ESPN’s legal team has their back.
(Smile, I’m just kidding.)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Too soft.
I think you’re being too easy on the guy. He had four beers in the middle of summer and drove home. He should be kicked off the team and sent to Fort Madison. Thank goodness the cops have something important to do.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
When I was in high school the drinking age was 18
and it was legal to have an open container in the car. Civilization survived.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Thank you
if anyone read up on the history of alcohol and laws related to making it and consuming it in this country and specifically the history of drinking and driving laws, they might have a bit more context to work from here and they certainly would not expect him to lose his place on the team. This is not even close to an offense that should result in him being thrown off the team.
When it comes to breaking rules in general, yes there should be consequences. But you don’t flush someone after they make a mistake or a second mistake. You just don’t do that with people…period. Hell, this country was built on mistakes for God sakes, it is what makes us vastly different than Japan (90+% convinction rate) for example.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
But you don’t flush someone after they make a mistake or a second mistake. You just don’t do that with people…period.
Unless that person is Anthony Tucker.
/sh*t-stirred
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
fist bump
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Agreed with all of the above
Particularly the second paragraph. This isn’t Singapore, after all.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
A very patriotic mistake
Hell, this country was built on mistakes for God sakes
Philadelphia, July 5, 1776. John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and John Hancock wade through the aftermath of a Declaration signing party…
John Hancock: Oh man, my head like, wicked hurts. How many beer bongs did I do last night?
John Adams: Like, thirteen bro. That party was crazy.
Thomas Jefferson: Hey, has anybody seen the Declaration?
John Adams: Oh, that thing we all signed yesterday? I mailed it this morning.
Jefferson: What? You idiot, you MAILED THAT? It was a joke! Nobody was ever supposed to see that!
Adams: Oh man, sorry T.J.
Jefferson: Welp, I guess we’ll have to go to war with Britain. God damn it.
America, you're looking good: handsome, free and tall.
by Close Shave America on Jul 9, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Just to be very clear
I am not advocating kicking Binns off the team. My frustration is that every single year kids in this program run afoul of the law during the off-season and it hurts the team, further tarnishes the reputation of the program and shows an inability to learn from past mistakes. Am I to believe that simply because this is Binns’ first time getting into trouble that he and all his teammates haven’t had enough examples set for them by now?
And how is the history of alcohol and its relationship to driving relevant? Is it illegal now to consume alcohol under the age of 21? Yes. Is it illegal now to operate a motor vehicle while under the influence of alcohol? Yes. No, it’s not Murder One, but it’s clearly wrong and by now the kids on the team should all be well aware that they are the most visible targets to local law enforcement and by ignoring this fact they all show horrendous judgment.
So while Binns won’t be (and shouldn’t be) thrown off the team for his first offense, that fact that, once again, an Iowa football player has racked up an offense at all is beyond frustrating. As I recall there were several suspended players for the first game last season. Good thing we rolled that first opponent without them…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 9, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to go a different direction
But a drinking age of 18 isn’t an awful idea. I mean, you can vote and enlist at that age, and that’s when you actually become a legal adult. The drinking age being older than everything (except the age to become president) has always seemed odd to me.
That aside, a four to six game suspension seems appropriate to me for Binns. He wasn’t that much above the legal limit, but he was also drunk underage. Of course, he’s only about two weeks shy of his birthday. So I think that bears some thought too. Regardless, it’s not a dismissal offense, but the OWI plus underage drinking merits significant punishment.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
The drinking age should be 16
and the government should get out of the business of raising/policing adolescents.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Right.
Because then, parents will do an excellent job of that.
And alcohol problems will decrease.
Right.
/sarcasm
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Buddy, if you think parents can't raise their own children, but you think deputies can,
there’s a certain surgical procedure available only to men that hurts for about three days, and I recommend it to you.
That is all.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Thanks for the recommendation.
I want to believe parents can raise their own children. And I know that a lot do (and do a good job).
But, especially with the issue of alcohol, I think governmental guidance is not something we should dismiss. I have a relative in law enforcement, and unfortunately, he has to deal with a lot of kids who are not being raised well by their parents. Sometimes those kids are doing crimes, sometimes they are victims.
I have seen parents who do not do a good job helping their children learn responsibility. And it makes me fear for our future.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a relative of an in-law of a friend of a neighbor "in law enforcement",
and he says …. what difference does it make what he says?
Actually, none at all. The cops work for us. It’s not the other way around. If I want guidance I’ll go to church.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Jul 9, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm a parent and don't even think there should be a legally mandated drinking age
nor do I think marijuana should be illegal but we live in a society of laws and it’s my responsibility as a parent to make sure my children understand that first and foremost. Civilization didn’t go on because we once had a younger drinking age and no restriction on open containers, it went on (and goes on) because we have processes by which we decide, obey and enforce laws. If enough people can be convinced otherwise then the law will be overturned (and yes, SMA, I know all about the withheld state transportation funds related to the drinking age).
As soon as adolescents are outside the confines of their own homes they are now the concern of society at large. If Binns had plowed into the side of a van full of kids it sure as shit would have been the concern of law enforcement; that he didn’t could not be further from the point. There are any number of separatist movements that would gladly have you join their ranks if that doesn’t work for you.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 9, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, Christ, we're doing this for the children now?
Look, there are gangs in southeast Iowa City now. There are housewives in their pajamas driving kids to school while eating and talking on the phone. There are farmers who think it’s 1957 and signalling is what you do with your arm, if you’re not having a cigarette. Seriously, we are not looking at social armageddon here with some kid driving a pickup home in time to get up at 5:30 a.m., having consumed 3-4 beers. We’re looking at an overstaffed, underfunded police force that arrests football players and blondes in Volvos, because that’s the quickest way to make quota and get a high five in the locker room.
Binns was stupid, but please dispense with the ‘what if he wiped out a minivan full of little angels’ crap.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Jul 9, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Enforcing DUI laws
is important. There’s a reason the shit is illegal.
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
He's not serious.
But then two Dos Equines is my limit.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jul 9, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude!
What was it, less than 10 years ago that the OWI limit in Iowa was .010?
So you want to boot a kid off a football team for being barely above the arbitrarily (and ridiculously low) alcohol threshold set by the state primarily for revenue generation?
Unbelievable.
I think the .08 thing...
was more about keeping federal money. It was “suggested” by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration" and that usually means that the states have a certain amount of time to adopt it, OR ELSE (they lose federal money).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Regardless of the original intent . . .
The whole DUI industry has developed into an enormous cash cow. Read up a little on the efforts of M.A.D.D. – which is and always has been a front for neo-prohibition and its own enrichment.
As someone else pointed out, a .097 is about four beers for a normal sized guy (probably a sixer for someone the size of BB) and it is highly unlikely he was impaired even close to the level of the average 18 year old bimbo ceaselessly chatting on her damn cell phone.
//self-righteous rant over
Wasn't that the whole 21 law too?
It used to be 18 until states had to bump the legal age to 21 to keep federal funding. You can go to war and die, but you can’t have a beer. Makes a lot of sense.
I recall that also.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It was 19
in Iowa. Wisonsin was 18. That changed in 1986. July 1 if I recall. (my sister missed it by 2 weeks which I found hilarious)
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
I got grandfathered in when it happened.
Was 18 and still able to buy. If I remember right there was a 6 month window. We still drove to Wisconsin monthly, loaded the trunk and drove home. I guess now that might be considered bootlegging.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
I was wondering about that
Because if you were 18 or 19 or 20 when the law went into effect making the age 21, that would SUCK if you were legal and then weren’t again.
Same thing happened to a friend of mine, missed it by days.
But it didn’t matter, we knew which taverns would sell us beer.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jul 9, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops I mentioned the fed and the 21 thing before reading yours...
…but what kills me is that there are statistics that show not being able to drink until three years after voting age (or restrictions in general) actually leads young people to seek alcohol at younger ages, and when found those youngsters are less prepared for the product, but just experimenting because they were told no (not in that exact wording, but that was the idea).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
it becomes more of a taboo issue, as opposed to something that can be introduced and controlled in a family setting. It’s not really surprising the amount of binge drinking that goes on in college.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 9, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That's how the fed got states onto the 21 & over law in the first place...
…and was also used to get the seatbelt laws changed.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting Thought on the Ordinance Violation
I can see that going either way.
Usually underaged students that get picked up for Public Intoxication are not charged with PAULA as well (the fine for PAULA is higher than for a PI). It would be easy for an officer to claim that the person was in possession of alcohol (since it was in their system at the time of the breath test). The police cannot prove that Binns was on the premises of an establishment after whatever time the ordinance takes effect; however, it is highly likely. He could plausibly say that he was given the bracelet, but had left the bar prior to the ordinance time. He then continued drinking at someone’s house/apartment at that point.
I’m no attorney, so I’ll let the professionals handle that one (looking at you HS). That’s just how I would argue against that.
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Jul 9, 2010 11:37 AM CDT reply actions
If they can't find any witnesses
that’ll work. If they can, you’re risking perjury, I would think. Better to just fess up at that point. And Binns is a big guy, probably pretty easy to ID
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 9, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
On a lighter note, Broderick picked a good day in the college football world to get picked up for a DUI, what with a good portion of the Tennessee football team getting into a bar fight.
“what with a good portion of the Tennessee football team getting into a bar fight attending training camp.”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice to see them sticking with Lane Kiffins strict policies after he is gone.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
*RABBLE RABBLE TROLL COMMENT RABBLE*
How far was the bar from his home? I’m going to assume he probably should have just staggered home.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM CDT reply actions
It's probably a couple miles
You could walk it, but it’s a long walk. There’s no reason he couldn’t have taken one of the many, many cabs waiting around downtown to take drunk people home though like most people end up doing. Or called someone or whatever. Just stupid and inexcusible.
I will say that University Heights police are total jackholes. Like was said
If the left turn he went through on Benton is Orchard St., that lane gets driven through all. the. time.)
A friend of mine got pulled over there a when I was in school in the middle of winter with snow covering the ground where you couldn’t see the lines on the street that showed a left turn late. He still got ticketed for driving straight through the left hand turn lane. You get ticketed if you go 1mph over the 25mph speed limit. The cops just sit on the main streets in University Heights just waiting for stupid crap like that so they have something to do. Not making excuses for Binns since it really is just stupid to drive after drinking in IA City with all the options to get home, but there’s a little clarity.
I staggered home
across IC many times. Including from practically the very spot he was busted to Fairchild street, about 2 blocks from Currier. In the winter. It’s called “I got drunk, now I have to not drive home”. I had to walk back to get my car the next day but that’s the way it works.
Binns could have used it as an excuse to get in a good run the next day.
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
Shit I lived in Mayflower
And I staggered my drunk ass home down Dubuque, past all the frat houses, in my black bar pants with no coat in 10 degree weather (freshman year—hadn’t learned yet to just pay for the damn coat check. Or steal someone else’s coat) many a time.
I always loved watching this
Especially when that hill was icy.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 9, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I've probably told this story before, but it's a University Heights story, and it's ridiculous.
Mardi Gras ‘05, after the lady friend ignored my phone call, my roommate and I decided to hoof it home from OEJ’s. Since we lived off Mormon Trek, it was a pretty ridiculous decision. Roommate started to sober up on the way and stopped at a gas station for a forty and we continued. Of course, the UH police were hanging out on the sidewalk outside their office on Melrose. Roommate drops his forty and we continue up the hill. About the time we reach the church just before the University Athletic Club, the cops pull us over and give us a breathalyzer. I didn’t buy a forty, so I blew a .079, while he blew well over the .08. We were both arrested and, initially, charged with public intox. I found out the next morning that my charge was actually “impersonating a drunk” since I was legally sober. Same ticket, and a night in jail, but nobody ever believes me when I tell them that I spent a night in jail for impersonating a drunk.
by The Mexican't on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Emmy goes too.....Anyone you'd like to thank?
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
The police in Lexington, VA are very similar
They would patrols outside one of the two bars (and there were only 2) waiting for last call then follow groups of students who were walking home. If someone slipped, or worse was walking alone, the police would stop them on suspicion of public intoxication, breathalzye them, then arrest them. Yes, you read that right, the “reward” for being responsible and not driving if there was even a chance you were drunk was to be arrested, taken to Rockbridge County Jail and locked-up, plus about a $300 fine. Maybe it is a bad idea to completely fund the Lexington Police Department completely through the fines/citations they issued.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
And then there's me
who walks out of a QT, under 21, drunk, carrying a case of beer, with a big bag of weed in my pocket. And trust me, I looked like the kind of guy who would have a big bag of weed in his pocket. I back through the door and as I’m turning around, bump into a cop who says “watch where you’re going”. I say “sorry officer” and continue on my way.
I’ve kinda had a charmed life when it comes to not getting busted.
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
by Flakbait on Jul 9, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for manners
Re-attribute the ‘watch where you’re going’ remark, and we have a totally different story.
Since joining the Big Ten, Penn State has a record of 103-2 in games where they score 30 points or more. Of course, which college football team doesn't have a similar record.
Impersonating a drunk?
Do you really look that much like David Hasselhoff?
Me gustan los estados unidos.
Foster Brooks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkHjnA6myl4
"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid
Mickey Rourke?
cant remember why we named him chuck....
by chuck longs mom on Jul 9, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Um
You say
The cops just sit on the main streets in University Heights just waiting for stupid crap like that so they have something to do.
Isn’t that the whole purpose of “University Heights”? I didn’t know it was a separate entity for the longest time and, let’s be honest, it only exists to be a reveneue-generating operation through traffic infraction tickets. I would venture to say that the town of University Heights probably has one of the highest police-to-citizen ratios in the country.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Exactly
I never got why there was a separate little town in the middle of Iowa City either. It seems to have no purpose other than for extremely minor traffic infractions (not counting DUIs) on Melrose and Benton.
University Heights
Is the little red dot. Also, the population is under 1000, and the first time I walked through, I thought the “city hall” was a bar.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
It's not even a full square mile in size.
Worst. City. Ever.
by The Mexican't on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a gated community without gates...
…for professors and administration.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Fortunately, we will not be witnesses
to most of the 1,000,000+ mentions of LeBron during the Buckeyes-Hurricanes game, because we will be watching the Iowa-ISU game which largely overlaps it.
by The Great Dark Spot Near Uranus on Jul 9, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
KF's response
Let’s see, two projected starters picked up for EtOH related offenses. I pity the next guy if anyone else has “an issue.” KF is a calm guy but I would imagine there is going to be a tense team meeting.
Too high? What do you mean too high?
by The Bacon Explosion on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions
Can someone explain to me
what’s so hard about drinking beer illegally a) at home; or b) at parties; or c) when beyond reach of the car keys?
The problem here is not the beer it’s the scenery in the bars, I guess.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Parties will most definitely be much more prevalent now
But going to the bars in Iowa City was just plain fun. As you said, the scenery. Girls + drinking + dancing = hooking up. Trust me, I did plenty. I lost track after my sophomore year how many random guys I made out with. Yes this can all happen at house parties, but there’s a lot more, um, variety at the bars. You see a lot of the same people at house parties (friends of friends of friends). I loved going to house parties too (usually cheaper), but I loooved going out downtown. It’s just different. And like I said above, there are tons of cabs to take you home if you don’t feel like walking (or walking is a bit too far).
And I thought your comments earlier in this thread made you sound like a "street-walker."
I’m sorry, but I had to make that joke.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
On the interwebz
Every poster is really a 12 year-old boy posting from his parents’ basement!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Cause it's really just too easy
You can make out with girl, but the girl is a “street-walker.” Well, I guess I don’t know you, so maybe in your case said ‘girl’ really is a streetwalker.
Methinks
That was a joke referencing the fact that you walked home. A little bit of punnery, I might opine.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
And you are the winner.
Who can understand dumb jokes.
Your prize: nothing.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoosh
And you are both losers for not getting mine. I didn’t spell it out that my joke was inspired by his punnery, but I guess it was too subtle to say “it’s too easy.”
by HawkgirlSTL on Jul 9, 2010 3:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Too easy?"
Another softball. I won’t swing this time.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. And I'm the only one.
Not!
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I made out with random girls the number of times I partied in IC.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Jul 9, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Whew!
For a minute there I saw “ton of crabs” instead of “ton of cabs”.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jul 9, 2010 2:10 PM CDT reply actions
come on man....
now im scared to going into rittenburgs blogs on espn…all the haters will b in full effect…HAWKS get your shit together, call me next time, Ill come pick you up
cant remember why we named him chuck....
If you're reading comments at ESPN you're asking for a headache.
by The Mexican't on Jul 9, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Why on gods earth would you read the comments section at ESPN? You lose 5 iq points if you even click on the linky.
can i get my points back if i promise not to go back? i dont think PSU likes us very much
cant remember why we named him chuck....
by chuck longs mom on Jul 9, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends what you mean by 'us'
It’s kind of a love/hate thing right now.
Since joining the Big Ten, Penn State has a record of 103-2 in games where they score 30 points or more. Of course, which college football team doesn't have a similar record.
I agree...
…derp, derp, derp… screeble-da-luca-jingleheimerschmidt… well, back to derp tWWL, my brain damage is derp derp wearing off.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 9, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
or you can just read the Register comments
if you really want a dosage of holier-than thou ISU fans talking up the thug aspect of all things Hawkeye.
Not surprised by an arrest . . .
There are going to be arrests. There just is.
I am surprised it’s Binns. Didn’t see that one coming.
"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."
Why's that?
You got a good hug in on him and felt he was a solid guy?
Since joining the Big Ten, Penn State has a record of 103-2 in games where they score 30 points or more. Of course, which college football team doesn't have a similar record.
I'm guessing he will get a two game suspension that
will become a a de facto three or four game suspension as KF will say he didn’t play because he has to work his way back into game shape or something along those lines.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Which could be okay
Since we should be able to win the first four games with only 3/4 of the original d-line. It will definitely make it easier for those teams to focus on Clayborn though.
It would not be as significant of a loss if he was a tackle
I expect this to ensure that teams run right handed, exclusively.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Move Ballard back to end and put in Mike Daniels
That kid is built like a refrigerator with a head on it. During the spring game he threw the center into the right guard and the left guard into the left tackle. Too bad the play was a run to the right. I know it was against the second team o-line but he is strong.
Binns was stupid,
and someone should point out that the coaches also drink beer, but strangely, they don’t get arrested, and what an effing mystery????.
But ….
a. this is all about revenue generation, because
b. seriously, probable cause for the stop with a .8? I don’t think so. Try driving to work behind some salesman with a cell phone going. Cell phones are definitely worse than a .10.
If the hawkgirl up there is right, he was only out there rolling in the 2003 blinged out Dakota looking for some social life, and he definitely was going home in sufficient shape so he could hit the iron at 6 a.m. These guys are just going to have to give it up. They’re targets. I’d hate to see how many wagons they’d need to collect the miscreants leaving George’s or the Foxhead at 2 a.m., but evidently it’s more fun to bust some kid getting home in time to push weight the next morning.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Wasn't the illegal driving in the turn lane...
the probable cause?
I’m not trying to start an argument, but we probably shouldn’t start the insinuation that “athletes are being stopped for no reason.”
Now, for no GOOD reason, then maybe.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, for fuck's sake, what,
he had three inches of tire over the line?
Anyway, he was stupid, the rap will stick, Norm will lose another toe, I’m going to the kitchen for a refreshment.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Sorry, dude.
My intent was to make a decent point, not to tick you off.
Have a good evening.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Enough.
Binns was stupid and will miss some football games. Life moves; next man in. He won’t be the last athlete to get busted. Oh well. The drinking laws are stupid. Whatever. The University Heights cops suck. Yes, they do.
Let’s move the fuck on.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

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