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BLACK HEART GOLD PODCAST 32: IT'S HARD TO BE HUMBLE WHEN YOU'RE FROM ALABAMA


For season 2 episode 2, your fearless podcasters are joined by The Rivalry, Esq.'s resident Iowa fan Bama Hawkeye to discuss this morning's "Twenty Predictions for the Big Ten in 2010" post.  We find time for the inevitable media talking points on Big Ten division alignment, Ohio State's chances at running the table, Michigan's win total (over/under 8), Northwestern's ability to choke in September, the odds of Minnesota winning a conference game, and the potential retirement of Joe Paterno.  As if that weren't enough, BH continuously thwarts our attempts to put him in a logical chokehold, leaving us grasping at straws by the end.

Also, the Mizzou-Kansas Border War game mentioned at about the 11:00 mark is on ESPNU right now, which is the television equivalent of the call coming from inside the house.

Listen below or subscribe on iTunes and get the podcast a couple of hours early.

 

 

 

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#bigups to your intro

/stiles’d


"Kittens give Morbo gas."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 28, 2010 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Wrong Song

It is hard to be humble. But’s been hard for much longer than I’ve been in Alabama.

Here’s the reason why.

"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Hawkeye State

by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 28, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

can I suggest

the tune of “I’ve been a moonshiner” for the fall? Turn that tone adjuster way down.

by Kevin HD on Jul 28, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe coaches because he doesn’t know what else to do. He admits as much. Unless he knows he’s hurting the team, something that’s hard to judge I’m sure, he’ll stay. The win totals and bowden and all that stuff is great, but I doubt that’s the sole reason he’s staying around.

by Kevin HD on Jul 28, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Also I believe what Musberger said a few years ago (paraphrasing, of course) that since he doesn’t know what else to do, so when he does stop coaching, he’ll probably die, and this is what he does to keep himself going. When he’s ready to pass on, that’s when he’ll retire.

by Buddy Light on Jul 28, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bear Bryant

You can find some articles in which JoePa references Bryant’s death within a year of his retirement. Very valid point.

"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Hawkeye State

by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 28, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember seeing a video of Joe Tiller before his retirement...

talking about a convo he had with Joe Pa about Tiller retiring. Tiller said he was going to do a lot of fishing, to wish Joe Pa replied with something like, “Why do you want to go and do that? You catch one fish, and look at it and they all look pretty much the same after that.”

by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 28, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe doesn't really like the outdoors. He's said as much.

He either goes for a walk or sits around in Avalon, NJ.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which one of you...

…was taping from the heart of a swarm of locusts? Come on, you’re 32 podisodes in. Still no professional sound booth?

by hawk4trees on Jul 28, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I kept hearing ice cubes clacking together. AJ, I’m looking in your direction.

by Buddy Light on Jul 28, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was HS

His drink was way lower than mine.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Jul 28, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

He started earlier? Or you were just nursing yours?

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Jul 29, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

We like you.


"Kittens give Morbo gas."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 28, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still stand with Team Jacobi on this one.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 28, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I pronounce “naked mole rat” as “Adam Jacobi and his delusional bourgeois followers”.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

LAWL


"Kittens give Morbo gas."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 28, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey HS

Can you get an interview with the locust outside your house?

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

1) I think Kevin Newsome will be better than James Vandenberg by the time we get to that loud, angry, inferno of a stadium in Ohio. Doesn’t mean we’re going to win, but I don’t think Ohio State is going to be as good as advertised. Pryor is going to have to improve signifigantly. if their runningbacks don’t improve. I really believe Alabama is the only team that will beat us by double digits because that game is early in the season.
2) I think Iowa will match up better with Ohio State. Stanzi is better than Tolzien and Iowa’s receivers are better. Moreover, Kirk Ferentz >>> Bret Bielema. Iowa wins that game because of karma.

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Jacobi and the rest of you guys need to become more homerish.

I feel like I’m carrying the torch around here. Where’s Stoops?

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re: being more homerish.

I am a bit disappointed that nobody who helps run this Hawkeye blog has chosen Iowa to beat OSU, much less Iowa to win the Big Ten. I don’t really blame you guys for not doing so, but I figured somebody would drink enough to make that pick.

Also, (and yes, I am saying this in a joking manner, not a mean one), HS is starting to sound like Troy Aikman in this podcasts:

Joe Buck/any guest on BHGPodcast: “I think that (team X) will not be able to beat (team Y).”

Troy Aikman/HawkeyeState: “You’re right, Joe/guest.”

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 28, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

"this podcasts" should say "these podcasts"

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comparing anyone to Joe Buck is an insult

Or maybe it’s just me. I hate him.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jul 28, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newsome may be better...

But that doesn’t mean he’s going to play the game of his life like Vandy did.

By life I mean life so far…he’s only 20ish.

A Voice From Kinnick - A Hawkeye Blog

by mikjones24 on Jul 28, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

I recall Iowa looking kinda terrified to throw the ball over the middle unless it was absolutely required (Not a bad attitude, of course). But if Vandy had had several games against good teams under his belt as Newsome will? Maybe it’s different.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you're confident that you're just going to have

Continuous progression from a sophomore QB? I think you’re spoiled because of what you saw from Robinson and Clark, two guys who were upperclassmen when they finally took the reins.

A Voice From Kinnick - A Hawkeye Blog

by mikjones24 on Jul 28, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am confident I am going to see continuous progression from a sophomore QB.

I do not consider myself too spoiled by Clark because I remember Anthony Morelli.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bama Hawkeye is a very smart dude

but his notion that Michigan is ready to reemerge is baffling. I think football has, forever, been about QB play. Michigan doesn’t have the kind of QB play that will make it from week to week. I think Iowa had a game plan against Michigan last year that will not carryover in any way, shape or form to this year. Norm believed that stopping the pass was essential to stopping Michigan. Michigan learned too late in the game that running the ball was their only chance. This year I think Norm utilizes a version of the two defensive game plans from last year…GTech and Arizona. Basically they are going to try to rip the QB’s head off and have deep safeties. By the third quarter the QBs will literally be running away from the line of scrimmage. None of this accounts for what might be the third worst defense in the league and a guy named Stanzi with focus and redemption on his mind.

As for the Ohio State game, I think this is a game that will come into focus about two weeks before these teams play. If Iowa loses along the way it could be much like the Penn State win from 2008 for Iowa…losing most of the game and mostly being outplayed only to win with muscle memory. Or, if Iowa is undefeated and Ohio State has dropped one we could see a Buckeye team playing about as loose as they did in the Rose Bowl while Iowa is stiff as a board, not a good visual. But, if both teams come in undefeated I think it is a toss up. Ohio State will have to find a way to remain upbeat in a potentially physical ball game that will be played very conservatively given the track record of both coaches. I would give Iowa the edge because Pryor is not reliable under those circumstances and I would expect Ricky to play a game very similar to Michigan State—no turnovers, very patient.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah!

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thought

“Rose Bowl Pryor” may not be good enough against Iowa or Wisconsin if my memory of Oregon’s defense being very, very puny is accurate.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Pryor will be concerned with Iowa's size

I think his mistakes are mental. He just isn’t a very smart football player, just an athletic one. THe more he is asked to think through his game, the worse he plays. Being conservative is very taxing on a player like him. He has to remember what NOT to do.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jul 28, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not talking about size only.

That is important, but Iowa and to a lesser extent Wisconsin are (presumably, anyway) more disciplined and tougher.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes.

Although I think Wisconsin attacks more, much more, defensively. It seems to work against Ohio State in their recent games but fails miserably against us.;-)

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jul 28, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well he didn't have that many problems against Iowa

Because SweaterVest had him look at a list of 100 things NOT TO DO before the game. I think SV just keeps Pryor on a leash for the really important games and lets him do his own thing against lesser teams.

A Voice From Kinnick - A Hawkeye Blog

by mikjones24 on Jul 28, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

RE: Iowa's offensive line 2009 vs. offensive line 2010

Last year’s OL was great on paper only. Our three best offensive linemen were Bulaga, Reiff, and Dace — and how often were all three of them healthy and playing at a high level at the same time? Almost never. By the time Bulaga was starting to round into form after the thyroid deal, Dace was done. Reiff was more consistent, but still prone to occasional bits of “oh yeah, that is a redshirt freshman out there.”

Aside from them we had… what? Vandervelde (I always pronounced it without the last e, incidentally, but that’s just because I had a fucking terrible property law professor who pronounced it that way) is a point of concern this year precisely because of the way he played in 2009. Eubanks was a three-year starter that probably should have only been a two-year starter; if Bruggeman hadn’t ripped up his knee prior to 2007, there’s no doubt in my mind that he would have started that year the same way he did in 2008. The coaches loved him and trusted him (with good reason, probably) roughly a billion times more than they did Raffy. And the fifth lineman was, um… Kuempel? Who was so exceptional at his position (or not) that the coaches didn’t seem too concerned about moving him inside for the Orange Bowl, despite playing outside the entire year prior to that point.

I say that not to slag those guys, because I do respect their efforts and think that, for the most part, they did play well last year. We’re not talking banana and turnstile-level ineptitude here by any stretch of the imagination. But it would take some pretty black-and-gold colored glasses to call them a “great” line, IMO. The potential for that was certainly there, but thanks to injuries and inconsistency, I think we rarely (if ever) saw it.

And none of that means that they still won’t be better than the 2010 offensive line; the odds certainly favor that they will be better, if only because of the marked experience edge they have over the 2010 crew. But (1) we don’t know how good (or bad) the 2010 crew will be, (2) the heights of the 2009 crew weren’t really THAT high, and (3) as HS noted, the coaches seem markedly unconcerned about the OL. Which isn’t always the best barometer (I doubt any Iowa fan will forget Norm’s hyperbolic assertion that Humpal and Klink would make us forget about Hodge and Greenway), but could be a sign that (a) the 2010 crew is coming along pretty well and/or (b) they don’t see the 2009 crew as one that was irreplaceable.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 28, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh yeah

Last year’s O-line is on record for paving the way for a rushing offense that finished next to last in the BIg Ten and allowed a ton of sacks and tackles behind the LOS. I can’t see this line finishing withmuch worse numbers. Sure, there is no star power on this line. No one is a household name or on this watch list or any of that. But the proof is in the play. Most of last season our O-line was a train wreck. If nothing else, Staniz and the RBs will be used to it.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jul 28, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I really don't see the point in fretting too much about OL v.2010, aside from the experience factor.

And even that really isn’t too bad, all things considered. I think Ferentz is going to be a very pleasant surprise, and like was stated before, OL v.2009 really wasn’t all that special (not by the standards to which we’re accustomed, anyway).
I mean, yeah, the lack of solid in-game reps is a little worrisome, but really, I think we’ll be ok. We have a perfect schedule leading in to B10 play as far as getting the guys to gel a bit goes, and I dunno, I’m just not all that worried, I guess.

Depth, on the other hand… yeah, that’s fucking scarier than a rat crawling out of the toilet. Or Freddy, or weresharks or… something. Public sharts. I don’t know. But yeah, depth on the OL, secondary and LB is uh, worrisome. Otherwise, fuckin’ bring it. Well, don’t bring it to me – I’m just a nearing-mid-30s schlub on the couch drinking weak-ass diet beers, but please, feel free to bring it to those post-pubescent VLMs about whom we blather so much.

Oh – and the “e” at the end of “Vandervelde” is silent. It’s basically the long O in LOL of “Vandervelde.” Only sorta different.


"Kittens give Morbo gas."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 28, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

And maybe this is fresh in my mind because I just wrote about a zillion words about Michigan's 2010 schedule (god fucking help me)...

But the notion that Michigan won’t lose three in a row to Illinois or Purdue just because it seems absurd on the face of things strikes me as silly — and something that we, as Iowa fans, should be trained to resist. How many times has jNW beaten us now? (No need to time in, chadnudj, I already know: two in a row and four out of five.) How many times has Iowa beaten Penn State in the Aughts? How many times did Iowa State beat Iowa in the Aughts? Etc. Weird shit happens (and, no, I’m not saying that “weird shit happens” explains all of those games — in many of them, the better team simply won. But never in the jNW games.) and sometimes it happens many years in a row.

Do I really expect Illinois to beat Michigan for a third straight year? No. Objectively, rationally, logically… Michigan should win. They are the better team and seemingly better than Illinois at just about every position and along the sidelines. But that was true in many respects last year and they STILL got whupped by 25 points by the Fightin’ Juiceboxes.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 28, 2010 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel the same way about some of Michigan's other games.

And can’t help but think that some of the resurgent-Michigan talk out there is based on that type of logic.

“Michigan can’t lose to [MSU/Purdue/Illinois] for the third year in a row! Ohhhhh no! That coin landed HEADS the last two times you flipped it. There’s no jimmer-jamming way it’s gonna be heads AGAIN!”

Now this year, I don’t see Michigan’s game against Illinois as a toss-up. The Illini will likely show up at Michigan Stadium already in the fetal position. But Sparty and Purdue ARE tossups for the LOLverines. I also think that UConn, Notre Dame and even Indiana are basically toss-ups.

"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson

by EastLosRandy on Jul 28, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

"History tells you..."

In his article and in the podcast I think Bama Hawkeye puts too much into “History”. What happened for Northwestern in 1995 has no bearing on 2010. Ditto for Iowa’s history with Ohio State and others. Those players on those old teams are gone.

The Iowa and OSU teams were close to equal in 2003 and the game was close @OSU, a better Iowa blew out Ohio State in 2004 @Iowa, a better OSU team destroyed Iowa in 2005 @OSU, a much, much better OSU team won decisively over Iowa in 2006 @Iowa, the teams were close to equal in 2009 and went to OT @OSU…

Aside from the better team and the home team being more likely to win, you aren’t going to find history very helpful, and in general it can lead you to wrong conclusions.

by StevenDS on Jul 28, 2010 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, one more thing while I'm here and because the podcast didn't load earlier.

Penn State’s recruiting class isn’t great at all, but we weren’t expecting much because we don’t have a lot of scholarships. We had some guy a couple of days ago and he’s pretty good, and Mangiro is good. I don’t follow recruiting much. Brian Cook had some article about “Joe Pa hurting Penn State” or something (Before we signed two good recruits, natch), but I don’t see reason to worry until we have clear evidence that he is in really poor health.

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

The only other recruits so far are Shawn Oakman, Jordan Kerner, and a two star tight end.

Oakman had offers from UConn, Mich., Pitt, WVU, and Rutgers and a few others. Kerner had offers from BC, Iowa, Rutgers, WVU, Minnesota, and NW among others.

So it’s not great and maybe not even “good”, but it’s not horrible when you consider that a) we had a great class last year, and b) we don’t have a lot of scholarships to offer.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't they say JoePa was hurting recruiting...

right before he brought in some excellent players in 2004, 05, and 06?

If he is willing to change even a little bit with the times, then I think he can still get it done.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 29, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'll paraphrase the esteemed El Presidente BSD Mike.

In year one, Joe Paterno gets the recruits. In years two and three, he builds up the recruits. In year four, he usually has a very good team. He’s done it that way since he started. This year’s class got off to a slow start because as noted, they’re aren’t a whole lot of openings (I think we may have 12), and it’s a really, really down year for talent in Pennsylvania and even in our other recruiting areas like MD and NJ. This isn’t a good class so far and it may end up as a terrible class with only six commits or something, but I won’t speculate on “What’s killing Penn State recruiting” if next year’s class is fine. Right now, we’ve many young players on the team, so thankfully, this isn’t a make or break thing this year.

Friend of the Pants since 2009.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 29, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

No criticism

Or commentary/insight to add. Just wanted to say that Bama’s comment about “going back to the year football was invented. All the way back to 1995.” had me rolling on the floor in fits of laugter.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 29, 2010 5:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh yes.

That was one fabulous line.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 30, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

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