More Fry-era fun from TheHawkeyeHistorian, who is doing the Lord's work. Today, the utterly crazycakes 1986 Holiday Bowl between Iowa and San Diego State, with Hayden Fry's huevos on full display.
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This game was on the BTN.
Marv Cook kicked off. Which is awesome.
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by ReadingRambler on Jul 27, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
I watched the full thing on ESPN Classic last year
To think….SDSU had a football team at one point.
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And I've heard that they might have been coached
By a former Hawkeye Heisman runner-up at some point too.
by PackerHawk on Jul 27, 2010 12:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Brad Banks is coaching?
Just kidding. Yeah, I was watching the video thinking how funny it was that he would eventually be the team’s coach.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 27, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooops...
…edit, edit, edit. I’m an idiot. I lied. I watched the video for the first couple minutes and thought it was the previous year’s team, but then realized it was Charles Gregory Hartlieb, and thought how cool it would have been if it had been Chuck Long.
Then I tried to sound cool with the above comment and made that Boner statement.
Damn the interwebz and their permanence.
[That’s why they don’t have the edit function. Now my grandchildren can laugh at my moronic statement 50 years from now. Dammit!]
Khan! KHANNNNNNNNNNN!!!!
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 27, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Vlasic was the starter.
Hartlieb was the holder on the fake PAT. Coaches knew he was good and basically ready to start, so they trusted his ability on the trick play. He was outstanding as the starter in ’87 and ’88.
And yes, Long graduated the year before this game leaving Mark Vlasic just one year to start as a senior. Vlasic had a great year.
"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson
by EastLosRandy on Jul 27, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You may be right but...
When Vlassic went down in ’86 for a few games, Tom Poholski came in as the backup QB. In ’87 there was a 3-way competition for the QB spot between Poholski, Dan McGwire (brother of Mark, future 1st round draft pick) and Hartlieb.
Poholski had the experience, McGwire had the measurables (and the famous brother) but Hartlieb surprised most fans by winning the job. It took until the 5th game for the matter to be settled.
I will say that Hartlieb’s catch and hold on the winning FG is the greatest, most clutch hold in Hawkeye FB history.
The anti-Romo.
"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson
by EastLosRandy on Jul 27, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hartlieb made a helluva' holder, accounting for 5 points in the role.
The great thing about Tom Poholski is that Fry could NOT say the young man’s name.
“Puh-husky” is how it continually came out, and it was hilarious.
Next season. Puh-husky, McGuire, and Hartlieb battled for the QB slot, and Hartlieb—a really great Tate-like QB—won out. He still hold the record for most QB passing yards in a season (most people think it’s Long), as well as the single game record. Great player, underrated in Iowa lore.
"If you want to become a man--come to Iowa" All American IOWA LB PAT ANGERER, whose best friend is a dog.
by The Director on Jul 27, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
As I recall, Fry chose to give each one a start
before making his decision. Since the 4th game was the earliest he had ever intended to name a starter, it’s not so surprising it took one more game.
The surprising thing about Hartlieb being named starter was that he had that fumbled (well, intercepted really) pitch in the Kickoff Classic that Tennessee returned something like 95+ yards for a TD, just as the Hawks were about to score. That seemingly cost him his chance. But as usual, Hayden knew what he was doing.
by The Great Dark Spot Near Uranus on Jul 27, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Double God Dammit!
I saw Hartlieb in there and blew it. Double Boner statements. I give up until September.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 28, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I give up. I knew Vlasic was in there (I met him when I was younger cause a friend was related to him)...
…but I saw Hartlieb too and got re-confused. My brain hurts. I’ve been on pharma-drugs lately. That will be my excuse.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 28, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
They still have one, though it's sort of a Zen thing these days
If they hold a football game and no one shows up, did the game take place? Plenty of parking available at the stadium on gamedays, though.
by The Great Dark Spot Near Uranus on Jul 27, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
These just make me even more excited for football to start
Sally Mason told me on the radio this morning that kickoff is only 40 days away, which is neat.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jul 27, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions
Vlasic was awesome
if he would have stayed healthy that could have been a dynamic team too.
by Internet Legend on Jul 27, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions
He finally had some good receivers, in Quinn Early....
….a more sure-handed Robert Smith, and TE’s Flagg and Cook.
Vlasic was a great team player—nowadays, he’d of transferred for sure.
Interesting to think of the ’85 team if Long had gone pro and Vlasic had been the starter instead all season.
"If you want to become a man--come to Iowa" All American IOWA LB PAT ANGERER, whose best friend is a dog.
by The Director on Jul 27, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
RTK on the final play.
Also, a big ol’ camera full of Barry Alvarez at 7:03. So strange to see him decked out in black and gold (and 45 lbs. lighter).
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
For what it's worth, it was a FLLLLLLOP.
SDSU guy never touched him. Classic Houghtlin.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Jul 27, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Red card?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 27, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he just lost his footing.
In other words: making the game-winning field goal while falling on his ass.
One of Houghtlin’s many masterpieces.
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by EastLosRandy on Jul 27, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Flagg and Cook, has there ever been a better TE tandem at Iowa?
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And Early and Smith were an excellent WR tandem.
Plus Kevin Harmon coming out of the backfield. A lot of great options for the passing game.
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by EastLosRandy on Jul 27, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I still remember Ronny and Kevin cruising town on their matching Vespa scooters
as there large gold “Harmon” necklaces fluttered in the breeze. They were so ahead of their time in a fashion trend-setting way.
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It's no wonder I'm a Hawk Fan for life...
…I remember jumping around my Aunt’s living room with no less than 10 members of my family (I was the youngest one in there by at least 20 years) at the end of this game. It looked like we were gonna give it away, and then we mount the most unlikely comeback (deservedly so… we are god’s team). I also remember the same sort of pandemonium at my grandparents’ house for the Iowa/Michigan epic with more like 20 individuals strewn about the basement. Games like that (and celebrations like that) stick with you for life (I was less than ten years old for many of the great Hayden games).
Twenty years later it was like deja-vu, with my parents, grandparents, cousins, aunts&unkles, and random girlfriends in my folks’ livingroom for “The Catch.” Or with friends, parents and other random family (this time at a bar) for 7 Got 6.
I love this team, and I can’t wait for this season!
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 27, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
fan forever...
…my first big shove in to hawklore was way back in BB. Krafsicin (cant spell), Waite, Boyle, Brookings, Gamble, Hansen and Ronnie Lester..wow. Didnt get to see um play live and rarely saw them on tv,so watchin beat Syracuse to get to the Final Four was awesome!! Couple summers later I got to play in some pick up games on the field house court during the summer, thought I had died and went to heaven….Football..theres just to many moments..only saw one game live from Kinnick vs NW.. back mid to early eighties..for me it was like the one and only time that i got into Wrigley, just kinda takes your breath away…..so it goes without sayin that no matter where Im livin, my interest in pro teams my change (depends on where our guys get drafted) but i’ll always be a Hawkeye!!
"He was the one that didn't give us a touchdown, ... He didn't officiate for us again." ...Hayden Fry
by chuck longs mom on Jul 27, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Sitting in the west end zone
… and watching that kick go thru…
… Quinn giving his game gloves to my son…
… Vlasic and Early later signing with the bolts…
… Party in Mission Valley…
Best game ever at The Murph.
There is a very fine line between sports fan and mental illness.
Hayden called him
“a rolling ball of butcher knives”.
A fella steps out for a two pound burrito and all hell breaks loose.
Nope, that was Richard Bass.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Jul 27, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He's slow to be "rolling".
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by ReadingRambler on Jul 27, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Exciting game but
our defense was shredded. I remember only being ticked off at the time. We had won the Big Ten in ‘81 and ’85, beat Tennessee and Texas while losing to Florida in the other bowl games, and here we were fighting for our lives against San Diego State. We lost to Michigan, which won the conference that year, on a last-second field goal. Vlasic had good moments and not-so-good moments, though he probably hung around the pros longer than any QB in recent Iowa history with the exception of Long. Over his career, I don’t know if any tight end, including Cook and Moeaki, had as many clutch plays (not flashy, game-winning or anything like that, just clutch, first down conversions) as Mike Flagg.
I can look back on it now with appreciation for the bonkers game it was, but as a die hard fan and recent alum, I was not happy, and I think a lot of other people felt the same way.
A fella steps out for a two pound burrito and all hell breaks loose.
The unhappiness was understandable
when you consider this was during the high water mark of the Fry era. If memory serves, from ‘81 to ’86 we had the highest winning percentage in the Big Ten. Yes, including Michigan and tOSU. It’s a fun game to watch nowadays, but yeah, at the time, it was a considered an ugly win…and justifiably so.
by The Great Dark Spot Near Uranus on Jul 27, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
What's striking to me, watching this game...
Is how much faster (and bigger) our players (and the other teams players) look today. We have really improved our team speed over the past couple of decades (but so has everyone else).
I love Rick Bayless. Guy just gave 100% effort running the ball.
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That's just the nature of the game
The most shocking development in the past 20 years has been the transformation in players: much, much bigger while still faster than players of the 1980s.
The 1983 Michigan-Iowa was on the BTN recently. Had a great comparison of 1980s size vs. current size when Keith Jackson mentioned how “huge” Iowa’s offensive linemen were. The heaviest, as I recall, tipped the scales at about 275 pounds.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Someone on a previous thread compared Houghtlin to Murrey.
They nailed it.
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