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Assume the Position 2010: Cornerback

You know the drill: Every Thursday (or Sunday when my internet goes out) from now until mid-August, BHGP breaks down the depth chart, position by position, from most certain to least certain.

Previously:
1. 
Quarterback
2. 
Defensive Tackle
3. 
Safety
4. 
Defensive End
5. 
Tight End
6. 
Wide Receiver
7. 
Linebacker

Tonight: Cornerback

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We can say this for Iowa cornerbacks: They've locked down picks 66-67 in the NFL Draft.  In three consecutive drafts, an Iowa corner has been taken with either the 66th or 67th choice in April.  Charles Godfrey (#67, Carolina, 2008) quickly converted to safety and started for the Panthers in his rookie year.  The surprising Bradley Fletcher (#66, Rams, 2009) played sparingly.  We're still waiting to see what Amari Spievey (#66, Lions, 2010) will do.  But, barring a breakthrough worthy of an early exit, that streak is going to take a year off.

The Shutdown

Shaun Prater (#28, Junior, 5'11", 180, Central H.S. (Omaha, NE))

Another corner leaves, another corner moves to the top.  On first blush, Prater might be some cause for concern: Undersized, unheralded out of high school, missed time with two injuries (and one two-game suspension) in his only season as a starter.  There are red flags here.  And yet, despite those things, Prater has us feeling confident in his ability to pick up where his predecessors left off.

Prater was the target of opposing offenses wary of Spievey early last season, particularly by Penn State and Wisconsin.  The results were disastrous for the opposition: A Prater interception stopped a third-quarter PSU drive at the Iowa 24, and two Prater breakups stalled a Wisconsin drive at the Iowa 21, leading to a missed field goal that would have put the Badgers ahead late in the third quarter.  Against Indiana and Northwestern, he tied his career high for tackles with seven, but all came on the sort of underneath routes where Prater is taught to contain big yardage.  When  Minnesota and Georgia Tech attacked the sidelines deep, Prater was there (right up until he was injured in the Orange Bowl).

Therein lies his strength: Shaun Prater is an excellent assignment cornerback.  In Iowa's cover 2, he is to play the zone on the flanks, provide run/short pass support, and maintain deep sideline coverage with help over the top from the safeties.  He's proven more than capable of filling those roles, despite his size and limited experience.  It's why he's the next CB1.

Star-divide

The Next Man In

Micah Hyde (#18, Sophomore, 6'1", 185, Fostoria (OH) HS)

Micah Hyde is supposed to need more time, more experience, more strength, more size, more everything before he gets to this point.  A true sophomore, Hyde was about as unheralded a recruit as you'll see: A two-star athlete to Rivals and Scout who didn't even play cornerback in high school (he was a two-way quarterback/safety).  After getting offers from most of the MAC (Ohio, Toledo, Ball State, Miami (OH), etc.), Iowa threw a last-second scholarship at him.  Hyde accepted immediately.  He entered Iowa last year skinny, unheralded, and without a position; he left August camp, in the wake of Jordan Bernstine's ACL tear broken ankle, as one of just three incoming freshmen without a redshirt.  He played in every game, mostly on special teams and in place of the oft-injured Prater.  He was the first one off the bench when Prater went down early in the Orange Bowl, and probably would have been picked on more if Paul Johnson wasn't so stubborn (or stupid).

He should be in a dogfight with the fourth-year junior Bernstine for the second cornerback spot, but if spring was any indication, the fight was over before it even began.  Hyde exited spring with the starting position firmly in hand.  It remains to be seen what Hyde will do when he becomes the target but, if the Traveling Parkers are more comfortable with him than with Bernstine, who am I to judge?  So much for that extra time.

While You Wait for the Others

Jordan Bernstine (#4, Junior, 5'11", 205, Des Moines Lincoln HS)

Bernstine was supposed to be the Godfrey replacement in 2008.  Bernstine was supposed to join up with Spievey in 2009.  Now Bernstine is supposed to step into a starting spot opposite Prater.  And for the third straight year, all indications are that Bernstine is being passed up by an unknown underclassman.

It's not supposed to be this way for JB4.  As he entered his senior year at Des Moines Lincoln, Bernstine was arguably the most-hyped in-state recruit since Blake Larsen topped the Rivals 100 in 2001.  He received four stars from all the services (and was named the #3 corner in the nation by Rivals), received offers from everyone from Nebraska to Pitt to UCLA, even received a scholarship offer for his friend and high school teammate Adam Robinson the next year.  All this came despite the fact that he'd never played cornerback (though his numbers as a high school safety were absurd).  Since the day he hit campus, he's been pegged for the starting cornerback spot. In 2007, he was behind two seniors.  In 2008, he was beaten out by the upperclassman Fletcher and the admittedly excellent Spievey.  In 2009, Bernstine injured his knee ankle and redshirted, but all indications at the time were that Prater had passed him regardless.  Now it's Hyde, and it's bordering on absurd.  It's not just that this is supposed to be Bernstine's time to shine.  It's that Bernstine's time to shine was supposed to start two years ago.

Greg Castillo (#2, Sophomore, 5'11", 180, St. Joseph's HS (Mt. Laurel, NJ))

From the opposite end of the recruiting spectrum comes Greg Castillo, a New Jersey-by-way-of-Texas corner who was committed to FCS powerhouse Villanova prior to receiving a late Iowa offer in 2008.  At the time, he was 158 pounds and worthy of little more than passing interest from the recruitniks (2* Rivals, unrated by Scout, and 72/100 from ESPN).  Castillo was a classic Iowa project, and had a productive redshirt season, adding 20 pounds and showing improved speed.  It still wasn't good enough to make him a starter as a redshirt freshman: Castillo filled in as co-starter in week one because of Prater's suspension, and the results were ugly.  He exits spring practice listed behind Prater, and is still probably a year away from becoming a legitimate option as a full-time contributor.  No harm in that.

Willie Lowe (#10, Junior, 5'10", 175, Glenville HS (Cleveland, OH))

Prater's classmate also played as a true freshman in 2008; he hasn't fared as well in the intervening years.  Lowe shared the starting corner spot in week one last year with the aforementioned Castillo and picked up a start the next two weeks against Iowa State and Arizona.  But Prater made his revelatory return early in week three and Lowe began his slide down the depth chart.  After spring practice, he was nowhere to be found, buried behind Castillo.  It's not that there isn't time to turn this around, but given his lackluster play early last season and his apparently mediocre spring, he'll have to find something and find it quickly.

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In the photo above -

The clasped-hands “ohpleaseohplease” expression sported by Baldy Beardo Guy in the upper right makes me laugh.
 
Good write-up, HS, also.


"Kittens give Morbo gas."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 25, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

I was going to make a uni-bomber joke but you beat me to it. I’m thinking that guy doesn’t attend football games that often. I’m thinking he also screams during the scary parts of movies in the theater.

With regards to the article, I think people should start questioning Bernstine’s work ethic. I mean, are football players from Iowa that terrible? So terrible that the highest touted recruit is being passed up left and right by supposedly inferior and lesser recruited athletes from any place not named Iowa? That can’t be it. So either he’s hurt or he just doesn’t care. I don’t see how he couldn’t care because I would be ashamed if there was all of this hype surrounding me and I never saw the field. I guess time will tell.

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by mikjones24 on Jul 26, 2010 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

well there's not too much shame in getting beat out by guys that went on to be top 70 picks in the NFL draft.

At the time he got passed up, it looked bad, but looking back despite being relatively unknown, Fletcher and Spievey were fantastic players.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov

by shake n bake on Jul 26, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

For a position pretty far down the ATP list

it’s all guys who have gotten PT in meaningful spots (or in Bernstine’s case has been expected to, before being beaten out by a previously unknown, NFL bound, CB).

CB lacks proven top level talent, but isn’t short of guys that can be put out there and expected to be somewhat capable of holding their own.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov

by shake n bake on Jul 25, 2010 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny you mention that

I was just thinking, had this collection of talent been assembled in 2008, it would have been an ATP top 4 pick. That bodes well for this year. It also bodes especially poorly for next season, where all this top-level talent goes and we’re left with 15 holes to fill.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jul 25, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cornerback should move up the list though

Especially if JB4 is a nickel back or lower this year.

by PackerHawk on Jul 26, 2010 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahead of what?

(1) The reason we do these in the order that we do them is so that we can get more info on the positions we know nothing about. The summer lecture circuit resolved this debate, not necessarily spring practice.

(2) Which position would it move ahead of? We know who the three starters will be at linebacker. We know who the top 2 receivers will be, just maybe not that they’ll both be playing (GWTP), and tight end has been declared a done deal. We have a pretty good idea of who is playing at corner, but no more sure than any of the spots before it.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jul 26, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about the current spots 2-4?

Two new DTs for 2011, One (or two?) new DEs, one (or two?) new safeties. So I would say that LB would be the most certain defensive position, but unless current backups play most of the season at DT, DE, or S, I don’t think that those are more certain than the 2011 CBs.

by PackerHawk on Jul 26, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I misread your question

In 2011, yes, this might be #1. It certainly will be higher.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jul 26, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have we reached the point of expectations where

a rebuilding year is no longer acceptable? I can live with one losing season along with 2-3 seasons of 10+ wins. I just don’t think we will ever be a reload every year type team. With a program built on development, you have to allow that some of the kids will not develop as hoped. If we see improvement between September and November for the 2011 team, I will be satisfied.

If you feel like singing along, don't.
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by Kluginator on Jul 25, 2010 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I think that hand wringing over 2011 is waaaaay premature

That being said, 2011 could still be a decent year. The defense will be inexperienced and will be the weak link after a few years of being the strength of the team. I think that the offense will be strong in 2011. If the 2010 o-line is Vandervelde, Ferentz, Reiff, Zusevics, and Gettis, you’ll have 4 returning starters for 2011 along with McNutt (maybe) and Davis as a good 1-2 combo at receiver. JVB has shown potential and, while he’s no Stanzi, should still be able to provide good QB play. Running behind an experienced line should be good for the running backs. I hope the offense is really good in 2011 because we may witness some shootouts.

by PackerHawk on Jul 26, 2010 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think by the time

JVB gets into the starting slot that he’s going to be a bad mamajamma. I don’t know if he’ll be up to fully filling the shoes of “The Patriot”, but I think he’ll do a great job. We should (in theory) have GREAT running backs for the next 3 years. We’ll have a great O-line. It’s really just filling defensive holes that I’m concerned about, and that really hasn’t seemed to be a problem in the past.

"It's something I think about on a day to day basis: These Colors Don't Run. Love it or leave it USA #1!"-Ricky Stanzi Iowa QB and Patriot
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by HAWKEYESBABY on Jul 26, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not hand wringing just acknowledging reality. Hope for the best but realize Iowa fans

are seeing the world through black and gold colored glasses. The team losses so much talent after 2010 that it would be folly to predict the 2011 team will not slip back some. I prefer to accept that rather than set unrealistic expectations. If this team were any other team in the conference and they were losing what we will lose next season, nobody on BHGP would give them a chance.

If you feel like singing along, don't.
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by Kluginator on Jul 26, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not predicting a BCS in 2011

But I think that Ferentz can probably avoid a losing season. While 7-5 would be a change, it wouldn’t be like falling to 4-8.

by PackerHawk on Jul 26, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'd be hard-pressed to predict the schedule in 2011.

Let alone how Iowa will finish.

But I would hope that Iowa could become a team that “falls back” to 8-4 in a rebuilding year. The potential is there, but the fog of uncertainty is thick.

"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson

by EastLosRandy on Jul 26, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's slipping back some and there's freefall.

It’s hard to predict that far out given the realities in terms of coaching changes and personnel moves, but on paper the latter really shouldn’t occur. There should be a pretty fair amount of returning talent on offense and while the defense will be breaking in a lot of new faces, historically we’ve done a good job of plugging in new guys in defense. There have been some promising recruits over the past few years, too; next year we’ll start to see if they can deliver.

In an ideal world, this year’s team would be good enough to allow some backups who’ll be counted on in 2011 to get some action this fall. That didn’t happen in 2009, but hopefully it will in 2010.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Re: unrealistic expectations

I hope you live in Iowa City. I need more rationalists around here because in the offseason (when the Hawks are on a roll) unrealistic expectations is what this town is all about. And with practice starting in a week (or something like that— WOOOOOOO- – football season is around the corner!—sorry) this town is gonna be crazy-stupid with unrealistic expectations.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 26, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with PackerHawk...

I just want to keep the bowl streak intact, and if possible, maybe a florida bowl. I would like to never again experience a loss to a MAC team as our last game of a season.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 26, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think cornerback shows a good way to do it.

Have a guy start at least two years, first year opposite a guy in his second starting year. The year before the first of the two starting years is spent as the nickel back. Upperclassmen not good enough to start are the 4th and 5th CB’s. If it were that easy. That way, you’d have one experienced guy coming back every years. A less-experienced-but-still-somewhat-knowable guy opposite him, with promising players coming in at nickel.

Of course, it’s not that easy.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 26, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

My fear is that unchecked expectations lead to the idiots (nobody on BHGP)

who will scream for Ferentz to be fired because the team drops to 6-6 or worse. While nobody wants to own up to it, there were many such voices back in 06 & 07. As has been noted in prior posts, both 2008 and 2009 were marked by many very close games that could have gone either way. I just figure that the pendulum is due to swing the wrong way especially with a team replacing three of the best d-linemen to play for Ferentz as well as our top linebacker and a 4 year starter at safety on defense as well as replacing arguably Ferentz’s best QB and the likely leading receiver in Iowa history on offense. Like I said, if it was Penn State or Ohio State losing that much experience and quality skill, we would be predicting an off (rebuilding?) year for them and Iowa does not have near the depth of those teams.

If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor

by Kluginator on Jul 26, 2010 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

BHGP isn't completely foreign to idiots.

Of course, if anyone starts calling for Ferentz’s head after a poor season, someone (probably Rambler) will mock them mercilessly.

by The Mexican't on Jul 26, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

And haunt them til they leave SB Nation as a whole, i.e. skins4ever.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jul 26, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

We wouldn't be predicting losing seasons for PSU or OSU.
Like I said, if it was Penn State or Ohio State losing that much experience and quality skill, we would be predicting an off (rebuilding?) year for them and Iowa does not have near the depth of those teams.

Of course, we would predict rebuilding seasons for them, just like many are calling this season a rebuilding season for PSU. That said, most people are still having trouble pegging PSU for much less than 9-3 this year. When Ohio State appears headed for a rebuilding season, the pattern is almost never below 8/9 wins.

The decisive question here is if a rebuilding year for Iowa means missing a bowl game or just slipping to a scrappy 8-4, with a good chance to beat a rebuilding SEC team somewhere in Florida. I think that level of competitive consistency is within reach for this program. We’ll see.

"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson

by EastLosRandy on Jul 26, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll admit that I wsa calling for KOK's head after 2007

And even after the first 6 or so games of 2008 (shame on me). I feel better confessing to that. Of course, that was before I found BHGP and stopped going to some of the other, more rabid and unreasonable sites.

by PackerHawk on Jul 27, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I felt similarly at the end of that season.

However, I think it would take 2 or 3 real bad years (like 2 to 4 wins) for me to start thinking that Ferentz should go.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

My biggest fear is that Norm Parker will

call it quits after this season. The man doesn’t have many more toes to give to the team.

If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor

by Kluginator on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Something tells me...

that he enjoys the coaching so much, we will be surprised how long he will stay. Especially if the rest of the coaching staff makes it easy for him to stay (I get the feeling they are already trying to do this as much as possible).

The fact that he was on the I-Club circuit makes me think he is not anxious to retire.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

And there was his priceless comment during the Outback Bowl press days

about his wife not wanting him around the house. So, I think he’ll be around for awhile. Maybe the JoePa of DCs?

by PackerHawk on Jul 27, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

All indications were that Prater had passed Bernstine in 2009?

I don’t recall hearing anything about that. In fact, I remember hearing reports that Bernstine was killing it prior to his injury. And I think Norm said in the spring that there still seemed to be some lingering effects from the injury, which would partly explain why Hyde emerged as the clear favorite.

by Crush my Battle Opponent's Balls on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

The reason Fletcher played sparingly last year

is because he got hurt early in the season, IIRC. Living in St. Louis I get to mock and harrass the Rams’ fans, and again, IIRC, he was headed towards the top of the depth chart before he got injured (ACL I believe). He has just been given the green light to resume full contact work and is expected to be a major contributor to the defense this year, if he can stay healthy.

by The Nihilist on Jul 27, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

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