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Where would you like to go for a Big Ten Championship game?



Rittenberg has talked a lot about a possible championship game ever since expansion started up.  The key word there is possible, but now with the coming year drawing closer we as fans can always dream and come up with scenarios to our liking.  So I ask you of all these potential NFL locations  to choose from which would you like to visit or bring Big Ten history to?  I for one hope that Iowa will be written in as the first  Big Ten's Championship Game Winner.

Poll
Championship game locations
Ford Field - Detroit
2 votes
Soldier Field - Chicago
127 votes
Lambeau Field - Green Bay
52 votes
Lucas Oil Stadium - Indianapolis
60 votes
Cleveland Browns Stadium - Cleveland
4 votes

245 votes | Poll has closed

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Why in the world would I want to go to Detroit?

Isn’t that the punishment for finishing at the bottom of the league and still qualifying for a bowl anyway?

by The Nihilist on Jul 15, 2010 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Amen

If it’s going to be inside, then Indianapolis works just fine. Unless Robocop starts patrolling the streets soon, there is nothing that would make me want to visit Detroit.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 15, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You Forgot the Metrodome

Indoors and receiving minimal votes,,,,,,,,,drum roll please,,,,,,,the hefty bag dome! Wake up everyone, this game needs to be played at the best day / nite venue in the B10 (12) KINNICK!!!!!!

Hate Northwestern, Hate OSU, Michigan State, Michigan too...you get the picture.

by RetroHawk on Jul 19, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heinz Field - Pittsburgh.

I want to get drunk and wander around the stadium, yelling “PITT SUCKS! PITT SUCKS! PITT SUCKS! PITT SUCKS! PITT SUCKS! MARINO SUCKS! MARINO SUCKS! MARINO SUCKS! MARINO SUCKS! PITT SUCKS!”

"My, my, my, my, my, my, my Mitchell. What would your mama say?"

by ReadingRambler on Jul 15, 2010 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

There's nothing stopping you

from doing that now

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jul 15, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t be as meaningful.

There is fire at the travel agency.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 16, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be a shame

to detract from the dignity and solemnity of such an act by relegating it to just another game.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 16, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

There is fire at the travel agency.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 16, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lucas Oil and Ford Field are out because they're indoors....

Lambeau is out because it’s north of any Big 10 schools. Cleveland or Soldier Field are the two options left. I think Soldier Field would be the way to go due to the more central location.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 15, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Technically, Lucas Oil is an outdoor stadium

with a retractable roof, I believe it even has natural grass, but I could be wrong their, I like Lucas Oil, but thats just because the Big 10 has the basketball tourney in Indy, and the stadium is new and awesome.

Tigers love pepper... they hate cinnamon.

by White Lightning on Jul 15, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lambeau is not North of Minneapolis

Or just barely. Just a fyi.

As much as I love Lambeau in December (not kidding), I don’t see that happening.

by PackerHawk on Jul 16, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do

because Lambeau has a bigger capacity than the other proposed stadiums and the Big Ten Championship is going to be a TV show more than anything. What venue would make for better TV than Lambeau?

In the end, it’s going to rotate among sites. I think Soldier Field, Lucas Oil, Lambeau and Ford Field would be a good rotation. That would also rotate it between outdoor and indoor venues.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 16, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

@PackerHawk

Thank you for making me learn something today. On google maps, Minneapolis actually looks a bit north of Green Bay. And from the wikipedia entries of the two cities, here is some climate data (I’m assuming a Big Ten title game would probably be played in the first week of December?)

Green Bay
December avg high: 25
avg low: 13
snowfall (whole month): 11.9 inches

Minneapolis
December avg high: 24
avg low: 10
snowfall (whole month): 9.3 inches

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 16, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And, I would imagine that...

the Big Ten would make sure the game was played in the daytime if outdoors, so really Lambeau isn’t a terrible option.

Cleveland would be an average of 10 to 15 degrees warmer, but also has more snowfall in December.

Pittsburgh is about the same as Cleveland for temps, but with about half the snow.

Weather would obviously not be a factor for the actual game in Indy or Detroit, but I don’t know if the Big Ten would factor that in for travel purposes. Either way, I’m not going to look those up.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 16, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The problem of Soldier Field is

It is the smallest NFL stadium and only seats 63,000 some say thats big enough for the Big10ish. Lucas Oil isnt much bigger. Im a GB fan so Im a little biased but i dont see a problem with Soldier Field its just that those are the arguements against them.

"I believe I have the total package of speed, strength, and explosion," Adrian F@#kin Clayborn

by DportROTCHawki on Jul 17, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of B10 grads in Chicago

A lot would want to come for a game, which would be problematic if the actual fans of the competitors wanted to come too. Fucking Bears and their stadium.

Kidding, kidding.

Me gustan los estados unidos.

by hkobb7 on Jul 25, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of those choices...

Soldier is the only one I’ve been to. Also it is easily driveable for Iowans, so I favor it.

At one point I thought it would be cool to rotate between all of them, but then I’m sure the Metrodome would want in on the rotation, so who knows.

So, I suppose I’m voting for Soldier.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 15, 2010 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

This is the Big Ten we are talking about, right?

The championship game should be held outside. Our teams and fans aren’t pansies, we can handle it out in the cold. Soldier Field is the best choice. I will be highly unimpressed if Lucas Oil or Ford Field get it.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 15, 2010 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Spencer Hall made a pretty decent point the other day.

All the BigTen fans just rant and rave about how the SEC is full of punks because they don’t play in “weather” or outdoors, when really, it could be muggy and miserable during their regular season while we’re enjoying phenomenal fall weather.

That said, an outdoor CCG would be awesome. Snow and football belong together. Soldier Field gets the vote simply because it’s in Chicago.

by The Mexican't on Jul 15, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rotate maybe?

Take turns among the outdoor stadiums of the upper midwest? Arrowhead, Cleveland, Chicago, Pittsburgh? I could see 86ing Arrowhead due to it’s distance to the south/no B10 in MO, etc. Was just thinking about proximity to the programs at the west end of the conference.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 15, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would like to retract my above statement...

And pick either Chicago or Cleveland. I don’t really care which. Kinda leaning towards Cleveland though, just out of pity. That town hasn’t had anything good happen to it since the Drew Carey Show went into syndication.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 15, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

They had Lebron for 7 years

"I believe I have the total package of speed, strength, and explosion," Adrian F@#kin Clayborn

by DportROTCHawki on Jul 17, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which got them

exactly 0 rings and one nationally televised bitch-slap.

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jul 19, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those first couple of weeks

can be plenty brutal heat wise here too. But I can see his point.
That being said, I’m still calling them out for not playing when it’s cold.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jul 15, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not so much the temperature that's the key

It’s the weather: gusting, swirling winds that are often in the 15-20 mph or more range; cold, not bitter, but still cold and often wet (either rain or snow). That, more than anything else, helps explain the discrepancy between the Big Ten and ESS EEE CEEE SPEEED offensive philosophies. In November (and often late October) it just becomes too dicey a proposition for Big Ten teams to have teams whose offenses are based on chucking the ball all over the field and tends to favor safer, between-the-tackles, ball-control offense.

But yes, if a SEC team ever had to play an outdoor game in cold weather they’d be absolutely useless. Southerners are absolute pussies when it comes to the cold (though summers are so much more brutal around here – it’s not the heat, it’s the humidity).

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 16, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll Point to Wisconsin vs. Miami

To reinforce this point. Wisconsin thrived in what was considered “great December weather.” Miami was huddling for warmth on their sideline the whole game. Too bad you’ll never see a BCS game played at Soldier Field (although Miami for the Orange Bowl felt like a Chicago night in late September).

They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!

by recoveringfratguy on Jul 16, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same for the OB last year

Walking around LandShark in shorts and a T-shirt garnered the stares of a lot of sweater-vest clad Atlantans. Not exactly the point of the thread, but still fun to bring up.

Me gustan los estados unidos.

by hkobb7 on Jul 25, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

calling them out for not playing when it’s cold?

So, when should they play when it will be cold in Florida? The last Ice Age? I can’t believe they wussed out from playing back then! This thread reeks of inferiority complex.

by Brock Sampson on Jul 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are such things as "road games", you know.

When’s the last time an SEC team traveled north of the 40th parallel even in September (when the weather is rarely awful)? Bama will be next year, to their credit, but I don’t remember it happening even once in the last decade prior to that.

by SpartanDan on Jul 20, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

LSU went to Washington last year - so that's at least something

but Florida has not left the state for a OOC road game since 1991.

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jul 21, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And we don't get "muggy and miserable" here?

Maybe not quite as often or throughout the season (though I definitely remember 90 and humid as late as early October even in Minnesota), but it happens. We have to deal with both; therefore we’re entirely justified in calling them wimps for only doing one.

by SpartanDan on Jul 16, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to agree

But no. Trust me, humidity in the midwest is NOTHING like it is here, and I live in the “northern” extreme of the South. I’ve been to Mississippi/Alabama in August, it’s like walking outside into a swimming pool fill with piss-warm water. If I owned a house in Alabama and one in Hell, during July/August/early September I’d rent out the one in Alabama and live in Hell.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 16, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good point here...

When it gets serious about being hot in the south, it fuckin means it. Tennessee in July just about drove me to tears. And this was directly after being in Arizona when it was 115. At least in Arizona you have the Loony Toons scenery to look at. It’s just hot down south.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 16, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

About that 115

At least it’s a dry heat.

But still damnably hot.

Me gustan los estados unidos.

by hkobb7 on Jul 25, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

We don't get it to quite the same extreme, true

At least not during football season (I do remember a 102-degree day with a dew point of 81 in St. Paul, but that was late July). Then again, I moved to Austin last fall and this summer doesn’t seem anything worse than what I was used to in the Midwest (more consistently hot, but no more extreme; we’ve had only a handful of days above 95 so far and even when it has been humid it hasn’t felt that unbearable).

by SpartanDan on Jul 16, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Move east...

Kentucky/Tennessee/Alabama/Mississippi/Georgia/Florida are approximately the Gates of Hell for hot. Probably SC and NC too, but the only time I’ve spent in there was up around Asheville in the mountains. There it’s sunny and 70 everyday. Something to do with Gulf Streams and weather patterns and such I suppose.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 16, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you meant

Arkansas State.

Me gustan los estados unidos.

by hkobb7 on Jul 25, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've also been told that this is a "mild" summer

But even last year, which was supposedly one of the worst, it hit 105 all the time but it was dry. One thing Austin summers have going for them in terms of weather: it’s either warm and humid, or hot and dry, but never blazing hot and humid. Apparently just far enough west to dodge Houston summers (if Alabama and Mississippi are the Gates of Hell for summer weather, Houston is Hell’s sauna).

by SpartanDan on Jul 16, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve lived in Austin (loved it), Annapolis, MD, and am now in Dallas. Annapolis summers were more problematic with the wet and decay. Houston is, by far, the worst city in this state. Truly subtropical and serious about it.

by txhawkeye on Jul 19, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Muggy and miserable, wahhhh.

Babies. It’s a lot harder to run a SPREAD OFFENSE ATTACK in 40 degree weather with a 25-35 MPH wind than “muggy and miserable” weather.

There is fire at the travel agency.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 16, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

And remember

They invented Gatorade for that muggy weather. Last I checked, they didn’t have a similar beverage for bone-chilling cold. Well, not one geared towards improving athletic performance/endurance.

by PackerHawk on Jul 16, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you telling me

that booze-ade doesn’t actually make me invincible? And more attractive?

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jul 16, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spencer Hall is fun,

but anyone who thinks “humidity is weather” is a pussy. That is all.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Jul 16, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you.

There is fire at the travel agency.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 16, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chicago

It’s centrally located. It’s the home of the conference. There are tons of alumni from pretty much every school in the area.

I don’t like the idea of rotating, btw. There’s something to the idea of a constant goal for all the teams in the league. The tradition and all that.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Jul 15, 2010 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll buy that...

The BCS National Championship Game doesn’t have the same ring to it as The Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, etc.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 15, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

It only seems fitting

for the most storied conference to play in the most storied stadium.

This of course is Lambeau Field.

by cubbyhawk on Jul 15, 2010 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

and this comes from a bears fan

by cubbyhawk on Jul 15, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The downside is

That you’re stuck in Green Bay for a weekend where there’s nothing to do. Besides, Green Bay is a lot harder to get to than Chicago/Indy/any of the other cities mentioned.

For the ultimate FUCK YOU to the Big XII, we should hold it in St. Louis/Kansas City just once.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 16, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a question for people who go to "event" games like this?

Are they really out perusing art galleries, shopping at Nieman Marcus, and taking in the museums? While I’m sure that there is some of that among the high end fans, I guess that a lot of people take in the game-related festivities. You know that wherever the game is, that there will be a solid weekend of events for fans. This isn’t like asking Lambeau to host Wisconsin-Ohio State, it’s a destination game that will be hyped like one and programmed as such.

Yes, Green Bay doesn’t offer much for the high end fan, but for people who want to booze it up and/or immerse themselves in football for a weekend the town will roll out the carpet and bend over backwards to accommodate attendees.

by PackerHawk on Jul 16, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

It probably all depends on how much time you can take off work.

When I have gone to Minneapolis for Hawks v. Gophers, I usually only spend one night tops, and I don’t do much besides go to the game and maybe go out to eat.

When I have gone to the Sugar Bowl, or the Orange Bowl, or the Outback Bowl, (or when I have gone to see UNI play in the NCAA basketball tourney), then you are there for at least 2 or 3 days, and sometimes more. Then, you pretty much have to find something to do, so you might branch out for more entertainment.

I think that most Big Ten fans would probably just be at the Big Ten Title Game for a day or two (maybe take Friday off for travel, go to the game Saturday, and try to be back at work on Monday morning), so that might minimize the sight-seeing.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 16, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lambeau would be way too cold.

I know Big Ten fans aren’t slacks when it comes to cold weather, but my God, standing outside in Wisconsin in December for hours makes me want to cry just thinking about it.

by LoveItOrLeaveIt on Jul 15, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

and I agree with not rotating it.

Pick a place and stick with it for tradition’s sake. I voted for Chicago, but I feel like that’s kind of unfair to Penn State. Then again, they joined the conference knowing that they were the eastern outlier so whatever.

by LoveItOrLeaveIt on Jul 15, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

We moved the Western outlier from MSP to Lincoln, NE on them.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 15, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would there be any logistical problems...

with planning a Saturday college football game in a stadium that might be hosting an NFL game the next day? Would we want/be able to paint the field with something about the Big Ten Championship? That’s probably a stupid question, since I figure that wouldn’t fly.

by LoveItOrLeaveIt on Jul 15, 2010 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Possibly

If I understand it correctly, Heinz field does just that, with high school games thrown in as well. That’s why the field there is always in such terrible shape in December. And we all remember what the Capital One field looked like last year.
I don’t think it would be a huge problem, but everyone would need to be aware about the possible field issues

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jul 15, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would a field up north wind up in the same shape?

I have a hard time believing that Pittsburgh/Cincy/Cleveland/Chicago get the same amount of rainfall that time of year the Florida does.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 15, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

If not worse. It’s not an issue of rainfall, it’s frost. Once the grass stops seriously growing, it can’t repair any damage, especially not quickly. They usually just re-sod the whole thing between playoff games when it gets too bad, or at least a big strip down the middle.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jul 15, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you...

The main thing I know about grass is that I’m glad when it stops growing in the fall.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 15, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a very good question

And ChitownHawk is right as well. Heinz is a busy field.

In heaven there is no beer. This isn't heaven, it's Iowa.

by PanterHawk on Jul 15, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also have a hard time believing

the Big Ten would host its championship game in the home field of a Big East school. I think Heinz Field is out.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 16, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Potentially.

But if the BigTen Championship falls on the same weekend each year, then the NFL could simply make sure that Chicago plays an away game that weekend. Sports schedules are pretty consistent, I’m sure they’d find a way to make it work.

by The Mexican't on Jul 15, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

Although given the history of the Metrodome (I know at least one Twins game, before they moved out, had to be suspended after 12 innings because they had to get the field ready for a Gophers game that night), I wonder how much cooperation you’d actually get.

by SpartanDan on Jul 16, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

But with the NFL you wouldn't have to worry about a same-day event

And baseball is done by then. Also, a turf field eliminates the Heinz Field issue of crappy conditions.

by PackerHawk on Jul 16, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't be same day, true

But if they can’t convince MLB to schedule road series those weekends, why would they be able to convince the NFL to send Chicago on the road that weekend every year?

by SpartanDan on Jul 16, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, there's an easy test case for this.

Just look and see if the NFL schedules Falcons home games the day after the SEC Championship Game.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 17, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent Idea!

I was bored. I decided to do research.

2010 (Dec. 5) – Away
2009 (Dec. 6) – Home
2008 (Dec. 7) – Away
2007 (Dec. 2) – Away
2006 (Dec. 3) – Away
2005 (Dec. 4) – Away
2004 (Dec. 5) – Away

I’m done. It looks like the majority of years, the NFL happens to schedule an away game for the Falcons.

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 17, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure that's really the same

After all, they’re playing on turf, and you don’t have that much work to do to get the field changed (re-paint a few logos and the hash marks). But if they’re usually away after that, then maybe the NFL is more cooperative about stuff like that.

by SpartanDan on Jul 18, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

True!

They didn’t even wait for the players to get off the field before tearing into the outfield fence. Strangest thing I’d ever seen.

by bconway6 on Jul 16, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I predict Indy

They are centrally located, even though Chicago is a bigger airline hub. They aren’t that far from Chicago, even if it is a god awful boring drive. Don’t try to tell me that alumni in
Chicago won’t drive to Indy if their team is in the game, or just for a good football game.

I think any rotation will be a two site rotation and will only happen if their is a geographical divide. I could see Indy-Chicago if we get an East-West split and Indy-Detroit if a North-South split occurs.

The Humpty Dump may be in play now that it’s not a Big Ten stadium anymore, god help us.

by PackerHawk on Jul 16, 2010 7:56 AM CDT reply actions  

The Dome

The Metrodome may suck, but if you’re can’t leave out a potential stadium like that…especially if you include Lambeau…

That being said, Chicago is, in fact, pretty much at the center of Big 10 country. It’s ~half way between PSU and Nebraska, and halfway between Minnesota and Indiana (in terms of north-south distance)

by edr247 on Jul 16, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, you can

The Metrodome sucks.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jul 16, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can you even compare Lambeau to the Metrodome?

Both in cold weather cities, but the actually facilities and experiences are light years apart. I’ll admit I’m a Packer homer, but the dome is a dump, most Vikings fans will admit that. And Lambeau is consistently a top-3 NFL game day experience.

by PackerHawk on Jul 16, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

No shit

The Dome is just a lousy place to go for any event. About the only advantage it has is no rainouts for baseball.

by SpartanDan on Jul 16, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not any more

The Twins have their own brand new stadium that opened this year, which is just further proof that the dome sucks. When all the teams that played there are desperate to get out of it, you know it’s terrible. First the Gophers get their own football field, then the Twins, and the Vikings have been trying to get their own stadium for years.

by HawkgirlSTL on Jul 17, 2010 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes...

the Metrodome does not have any ambiance. My dad is a big Twins fan, and so I have spent a good amount of time up there. It is nice to be able to drive somewhere for five hours and be sure there will not be a rain-out, and to have the Twins have a home-field advantage with the turf and the roof, but if you are not a Twins fan (with world series memories), then I’m sure it would suck.

I think the Vikings owners tend to whine about the place because it has only a few dozen skyboxes, and no real club level. Also, it is not owned by the teams, but by some part of the government (city or county, I can’t recall which). I think the Vikings would be dumb to build some new stadium unless it also has a dome or retractable roof. It will be interesting to see how well no roof works for the gophers after the novelty of The Bank wears off.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 17, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Dome would sell booze.

That is all.

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jul 18, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Top 3 Experience

Yes, agreed Lambeau is a top 3 gameday experience if your goals are; 1) Most patrons with a pound of sausage settling into their colon, 2) Sales of cheesehead headgear, and 3) battery operated underwear………

Hate Northwestern, Hate OSU, Michigan State, Michigan too...you get the picture.

by RetroHawk on Jul 20, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, how stereotypical and ignorant.

For what it’s worth, the actual criteria were more objective and not as biased as some on here, myself included.

And you must not tailgate at Kinnick if you think that #1 is any different in GB than IC. Foam corncobs are much more haute couture than cheeseheads? And if you need battery operated underwear you are weak.

by PackerHawk on Jul 22, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just so you guys know

The first part was a joke. I’m from Minnesota, and can’t wait till the Dome is replaced with something. Anything. Also, Lambeau sucks.

The second part is serious though. Although Chicago also sucks. Slightly less than Green Bay, though.

by edr247 on Jul 22, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness, I really wish they hadn’t taken that alien looking heap of crap and dumped it on top of Soldier Field. I’ve heard Soldier Field was kind of a dump, but that new stadium is just so ridiculous. I just don’t know what they were looking for. That drops my enthusiasm for playing there by quite a lot.

There is fire at the travel agency.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 16, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

It does look ridiculous from the outside...

but I got to sit in the club section for the Iowa v. Northern Illinois game a few years ago, and it was a pretty great spot to be a fan.

As you know, it is all about money and fan convenience these days.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 16, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Space Invader Stadium

That’s just Mayor Daley’s makeover to keep the Bears out of the suburbs and the money rolling into the city (which includes a 1% bump for any institution / business on the lakeshore)…

Hate Northwestern, Hate OSU, Michigan State, Michigan too...you get the picture.

by RetroHawk on Jul 20, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rotation

among all member school stadiums, exluding jNW of course. They can play their host year at Soldier. I think it would make the season a little more interesting if a team knows that it’s hosting the conference dance at the end of that respective season and they have the possibility of the playing in the show in their house. Think of the revenue brought in to the respective host areas also, what a boost. Of course the trade off for monetary delight is the thought of foreigners desecrating the hallowed grounds of Kinnick.

by Douche Bagalo on Jul 16, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

I would hope that if this happened (see quote box), that it would at least be PSU as one of the teams playing in Kinnick
Of course the trade off for monetary delight is the thought of foreigners desecrating the hallowed grounds of Kinnick.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jul 16, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 of the 11(12 in a little bit) hold 63k or less....

2 of them are just barely over 50k. Seems like it would really limit the ticket sales and accessibility for the fans to hold it in either stadium in Indiana or Minny. Not to mention the possibility of the CCG taking place on somebodies home turf, without them being present.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jul 16, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're going to play it in NFL stadiums

I just don’t see them wanting to potentially give home field advantage to someone. Plus, do you want to get 100k Buckeye and Hawkeye fans into Happy Valley for a game on two weeks notice?

by Josh Timmers on Jul 16, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be for a rotation, but don't rule out Lambeau

And as a disclaimer, yes, the Packers are my NFL team. But every football fan, regardless of how they feel about GB, should visit Lambeau at least once in their lives.

1. There’s nothing to do in GB? They have tailgating space and sports bars everywhere. You could say the same thing about IC, and we are all in agreement about how great IC is. Yes, I suppose the demographic is a bit older without a major college campus, but there’s enough to do to keep you occupied for a weekend.

2. As for the turf questions, Lambeau now has heated turf, plus some space-age polymer woven into their frost-resistant grass, and you never see giant divots flying out from players’ feet anymore. It would stand up to 2 games in a weekend if necessary.

3. Yeah, it could be cold. But who doesn’t love gratuitous camera shots of steaming black-guy head?

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jul 16, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Rambler might have to do a "you found us" for BHGP now...
But who doesn’t love gratuitous camera shots of steaming black-guy head?

by bconway6 on Jul 16, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm, heads (plural)? Is that any better??

Oh dear, I’ve revealed too much about myself this time…

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jul 16, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sidenote (my only game experience at Lambeau)

A couple buddies and I went up for the 2008 game vs. the Colts. We drove up there the day of the game, which meant no time for tailgating and stuff despite the 3:30 game time (if I could do it again, I’d drive up the night before). Had great seats, about 12 rows up in the middle of the endzone. The stands are less steeply sloped than Kinnick, so the nosebleeds are further from the field, but like Kinnick, there’s not a bad view in the place. I got to see a drubbing in one of Payton’s worst days as a pro, but even my buddies who were Colts fans (I really can’t root against the Colts either) had a fun time and were treated respectfully. We were not treated the same when we rooted against the Vikings in the Metrodome last year (Ravens game).

The next morning before heading home we took in the tour of the stadium’s facilities, which I would highly recommend to anyone visiting for the first time.

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jul 16, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does size matter?

Because the NFL stadiums in the Big Ten footprint aren’t very big. The biggest is Cleveland, followed by Lambeau. People always forget that Soldier Field is tiny at just over 61k.

Here’s the list
Cleveland Browns Stadium – 73,200
Lambeau – 72,928
Lincoln Financial Field – 69,144
Lucas Oil Stadium – 66,153
Paul Brown Stadium – 65,790
Heinz Field – 65,050
Ford Field – 64,500
Humpty Dump – 64,121
Soldier Field – 61,500

by PackerHawk on Jul 16, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes it does

Although I bet Soldier Field gets a pass because it’s Chicago. Just like market size mattered in expansion but it didn’t matter in the case of Nebraska.

The Browns stadium might get more consideration than I thought it might. Humpty Dump is out because it’s awful. Heinz is probably out because it’s the home field of a Big East School.

The rest could all be in a rotation—although I bet it’s either Cleveland or Cincinnati getting a turn and not both. And it would most likely be Cleveland.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 16, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see no reason to have Philly in the rotation, unless we add some teams from out east.

If we have to appease PSU, let’s go with Heinz Field.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 16, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cincinnati send a pretty clear message to the Big East

Play it in one of their cities, but not in a Big East stadium. Not that it would be about luring the Bearcats away, just marking the corner of Ohio that is “big east country”.

by PackerHawk on Jul 17, 2010 12:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree.

We’ll have to force Delany to listen to gospel or the like to “revive” him.

There is fire at the travel agency.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 16, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The other amusing thing going on here

is the idea that, apparently, some think that Indy is a ‘destination’ city — stuff to do, etc., before you go eat sushi and drink wine indoors in Indianapolis in December. “Oooh, go fight win. I’ll try the Vouvray.” Seriously. We’re talking about Indianapolis. I like Des Moines very much, but I would never suggest that it’s a good place to hold a championship football game because it’s so cosmopolitan.

This game should be played in Chicago or Green Bay, and if either venue is too cold for you, stay home and microwave yourself some pseudo-food and sit on the couch with the rest of the early onset dementia set.

If they don’t want to play this game outside it’s absolute proof that our civilization is in decline, that Delany is a wus, and that we are content to assign football supremacy to a bunch of guys who think that, because they’re sweating, it’s hostile weather.

Sincere question: why in the world would people support playing this game in an instant-stadium in Indianapolis, IN. It’s the second-highest vote-taker. Why on earth? It’s the Metrodome with a sliding roof. In a second-rate Des Moines.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Jul 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Central location

Which Lambeau doesn’t have. I’d been leaning toward Indy as the second option (Soldier Field first, given its central location and that it’s outdoor), but the Lambeau option is growing on me (despite my absolute hatred of all things Packer).

by SpartanDan on Jul 18, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lambeau is my dream

I am a lifelong Packer fan, but have never been to a game, though I have always wanted to. Also, while Green Bay is hands down my favorite NFL team, my love and fanaticism for them doesn’t even begin to approach my love for the Hawks. So when I heard this the first thought that popped into my head was, “What could be better than seeing a Packer game in Lambeau in December? Seeing a Hawkeye game in Lambeau in December.” So from purely a selfish standpoint I said Lambeau. I think the Big Ten will do something along the lines of a Indy/Chitown rotation like Bball.

by shada's revenge on Jul 18, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Soldier Field

Because fuck Green Bay and Indianapolis. That’s why.

by fugeeu on Jul 20, 2010 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The weather shouldn’t have an effect on the outcome of a Conference Championship game that could decide whether or not a team plays for the National Championship. Inside of Lucas Oil Stadium leaves the loser with no excuses (assuming there is consistent officiating which is typically pretty solid in the Big 10). That along with the fact that Indianapolis is home to the bball championship game just makes too much sense.

by rjhawk34 on Jul 21, 2010 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't believe what I am reading.

In that case, can we amend the records to show that Penn State beat Iowa in 2008 because JoePa (At the time anyway, he won’t pull that again) felt the players shouldn’t have sideline heaters for the cold weather leading to our punter getting really cold, which may have led to him shanking a punt leading to an Iowa touchdown?

Let’s go with that.

There is fire at the travel agency.

by ReadingRambler on Jul 22, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bullshit

Every game can decide whether or not a team plays for the national championship.

by SpartanDan on Jul 22, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lame.

Football is a game that includes weather. This isn’t TV, this is young men on grass in weather. You’re just saying that we need to compensate for playing football — the rest of the year — in weather. No thank you. Football is not some tv or computer-generated competition. This is young men doing big things no matter the externalities.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indianapolis...for fuck's sake, no.

Let’s grow some balls here. The SEC is finally being unmasked for the pathetic, unprincipled, win-at-all-costs, soap opera disguised as a football conference…let’s stick to our cultural make-up for once quit whining about weather. Leave the indoor games to the softies in Dixie.

Does anyone believe that Alabama could play a bowl game in Soldier Field on any day after Christmas, and win? They had guys wearing long sleeve Underarmor in the fucking Rose Bowl in January. It was swealtering by midwest standards that evening. Big Ten teams are asked to play in every weather condition imaginable, and we do it without complaint. Iowa will play Arizona in the desert in September at midnight this year, as a top 10 team. This is not some desperate attempt to gain national favor. This is how we roll.

Florida would not take that Arizona game for an extra $2 million. And cold weather? You’ll sooner see Rich Rod coaching Michigan Ohio State than an SEC team north of Lexington after autumnal equinox.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jul 22, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

SMA, you knocked that out of the park.

Christ, look at how Da ‘U’ and GT were acting when it was 50 degrees out at 8pm the nights of those games.

Soldier or Lambeau is where it should be played.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jul 23, 2010 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Lambeau? Soldier Field?? Are you out of your minds???

What do we want here folks… a great Big-10 Championship game or a chance to actually compete for a National Championship? If you agree to the latter, continue reading. If you agree to the former, bless you, you are a diehard Big-10 dinosaur stuck in the 50’s. While it would be great to see a Big-10 Championship game played in a venue that could offer the modern day, college equivalent of the “Ice Bowl” year in and year out, it does nothing to prepare us for the the real Championship which will be played in a dome or in a faster, warmer venue that the rest of the country (SEC, Texas, USC…) are fully comfortable playing in. We need to think of this championship game as a warm up to the NTG. I’d love to see a “Snow Bowl” every year myself, but I venture to say more injuries occur in inclement weather games than indoor ones. And the last thing you need is your quarterback losing confidence by throwing into a 40 MPH wind all day and your offense scoring 6 Pts… not a great “jumping off” point to boost your confidence going into the title game. Let’s swallow our midwestern, tough as nails pride and realize that we need to prepare for the game, and the venue it is played in, that defines us the most. Sorry, it must be indoors.

by hatchedahawk on Jul 31, 2010 3:18 AM CDT reply actions  

So are NFC teams at a disadvantage

if the Packers get home field advantage and the NFC Championship game is played at Lambeau Field and then they have to travel to the daunting warm weather of Miami, New Orleans or some other warm weather/indoor climate?

by HawKCP on Jul 31, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point, but...

The Packers won the Superbowl once (in the modern era) when they had homefield advantage (1996 and they beat an upstart Carolina team). They lost to Dallas the year before in Dallas in the NFC Championship Game, and to Denver in 1997 (they didn’t have homefield that year I believe???) Point being, it happened once and they were an awesome team, playing the Patriots pre-Brady. Look at Buffalo of the early 90’s. Buffalo’s a tough place to win in in December/January, but they went on to lose 4 straight Superbowls. Although this is from another era, look at Minnesota of the 70’s. Their home field record was about 10% points higher pre-dome due to the cold, but they lost 4 SuperBowls in a warmer climate. The Big Ten no longer has a dome to play in since Minnesota moved outdoors, so all I’m saying is that, let’s play it in a venue that helps prepare us the best for what we will experience a month out. Plus, with modern day turf, it has to be easier to recover from, i.e. injuries.

by hatchedahawk on Jul 31, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

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