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Better Know An Iowa Football Opponent 2010: Penn State Nittany Lions (Part Two)

The off-season is a long and tiresome trudge, so how can we best get through it?  By looking ahead to next year, of course.  So, in the spirit of forward thinking, we present a team-by-team look at Iowa's 2010 football opponents (with looks at Illinois and Purdue thrown in for good measure so our Big Televen brethren don't feel ignored).  Next up: the Penn State Nittany Lions.  Them again?

In case you missed it (or, more likely, have just forgotten)... PART ONE

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Fear Jack Crawford and his mighty bullet head.

PENN STATE NITTANY LIONS (@ Iowa City, IA; October 2, 2010; 7:00pm CT; ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)

OK, what should we expect when Penn State doesn't have the ball?  A defense with a lot of new faces, but still a typically stout Penn State defense, in all likelihood.  Up front, Penn State loses the reigning Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year in Jared Odrick, but returns experienced faces at three other defensive line spots.  Jack Crawford (31 tackles, 14.5 TFL. 5.5 sacks) and Eric Latimore (21 tackles, 6 TFL, 3.5 sacks) are expected to man the defensive end spots; between them, they started 18 games a year ago.  Their best returning lineman is defensive tackle Ollie Ogibu, an All-Big Ten Honorable Mention who had 30 tackles (8 TFL, 2 sacks) a year ago.  Joining him is (likely) the largely untested DevonStill, who started only one game in 2009, but racked up 19 tackles (5.5 TFL, 2 sacks) in spot action.  Penn State's routinely had top-notch defensive lines over the past few years and while this isn't as immediately intimidating as the lines that featured Aaron Maybin or Odrick, it still figures to be more than solid.

Behind the linebackers, Penn State faces an even greater challenge at linebacker than Iowa.  The Hawks might have to replace 2/3 of their starting linebackers from a year ago, but Penn State has to replace all three primary starters.  They'll have to earn their "Linebacker U" rep this year.  On the plus side, they won't be throwing three brand new starters out there.  WLB Bani Gbadyu started five games a year ago and had 37 tackles (0.5 TFL) and a forced fumble.  SLB Nate Stupar started two games in 2009 and had 31 tackles (1.5 TFL, 1 sack) and one interception.  The bigger question may be at MLB, where Michael Mauti  is expected to slot in as the starter despite missing the entire season in 2009 with a torn ACL.  Whether or not he's fully recovered from that injury could determine whether or not PSU has a weak link in the middle of their defense. Overall, this group is far from being as accomplished as their predecessors, but Penn State linebacking corps are a bit like Iowa linebacking corps: when's the last time you remember a bad crew suiting up?  That said, we still mourn the passing of the Hullstache from the halls of Linebacker U; that was truly a majestic lip-warmer.

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EPIC SUKAY?

The bulk of Penn State's secondary returns intact, led by the safety tandem of Nick Sukay and Drew Astorino.  D'Anton Lynn's expected to start at one CB spot, with Stephon Morris the favorite to start at the other CB spot.  Astorino led the way with 62 tackles (1 TFL), five passes defended (one interception), and two fumbles recovered.  Sukay had 41 tackles, 13 passes defended (two interceptions), and two fumbles recovered.  Lynn had 35 tackles (3.5 TFL) and five passes defended.  No other member of the secondary had any stats of significance, really.  They had a top 20 pass defense a year ago, holding opposing offenses to the same number of passing touchdowns as Iowa (9).  There's little reason to suspect that they won't have a very solid pass defense once again.

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And just how "special" are their special teams?  Not very.  They return their kicker from a year ago -- but that may not be such a good thing.  Jeremy Boone Collin Wagner was 15/22 (and just 1/5 from 40+) a year ago, which is not exactly Groza-winning stuff.  He wasn't any great shakes on touchbacks, either: just ten all year.  And yet Wagner might be the strongest aspect of PSU's special teams unless things improve dramatically.  They're breaking in a new punter, only the likely starter (Anthony Fera) was suspended (ye olde underage boozin') during spring practice.  It won't matter who's punting if their coverage doesn't pick up, though: last year Jeremy Boone averaged a respectable 43.3 yards per kick, but had a net average of 31.7 (that's not good) because their coverage was so abysmal.  And, to top it all off, they were even pretty lousy at returning kickoffs and punts (19.7 KR and 5.0 PR).  Special teams is one area where Iowa could have a substantial advantage on Penn State, not that it will mean much.  I mean, it certainly didn't last year, right?

... oh, right.

Alright, brainiac, what's gonna happen?  One of the slightly under-reported elements of the Iowa-PSU series since Ferentz arrived is that, more often than not, the better team wins.  Penn State had clearly superior teams in 1999 and 2007; they won.  Iowa had superior teams in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004; they won.  It's slightly more anomalous that when the two teams were evenly matched, as they were in 2000 (they were both poor) and 2009 (they were both good), Iowa also won, but two results does not a trend make.  If evenly-matched Iowa and Penn State teams met ten times, Iowa probably wouldn't win all ten games (unless Ferentz really has hexed JoePa).  The only win that stands out as an upset is 2008; that Iowa team was arguably better than its 9-4 record, but that was still a very good Penn State team.  

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Daniel Murray has your "upset" right here... 

So if that's all true... what's it mean for 2010?  Who's going to be the better team this year?  There certainly isn't a massive gap between them; despite their flaws, Penn State still figures to be rather good this year.  In terms of positional units, the teams are fairly even: both teams figure to have good defensive lines and secondaries, both teams are fielding a host of new starters at linebacker, both teams have experienced talent at running back (moreso for PSU) and wide receiver.  The key differences are at quarterback and offensive line; Iowa has experience at the former and inexperience at the latter, and the reverse is true for Penn State.  Can Iowa's new offensive line firm up in time to handle the Penn State defensive line?  We're cautiously optimistic.  Can Penn State's unproven quarterback hold up under the lights at Kinnick?  The Kinnick mystique isn't quite as foreboding as it was in the early 00s, when Iowa put together a 22-game home winning streak, but it can be a terrifying and hostile place at night -- just ask Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson what it's like to make one of the first road starts of your career at Kinnick under the lights.  Like virtually all Iowa-PSU games over the last decade, this one should be a tight, defensive game decided by a handful of key plays; we'll go with Iowa by seven.

So how's the rest of their season gonna play out?  Just as PSU 2009 could be a glimpse of things to come for Iowa 2010, so too could PSU 2010 be a precursor of what Iowa can expect in 2011.  PSU 2010 will be cursed with a novice QB, but blessed with experience at virtually every other offensive position.  They'll also be filling in a lot of holes on defense, including an entire LB corps and key parts of the defensive line and secondary.  Looking in your black-and-gold crystal ball... doesn't that sound a lot like Iowa 2011?  Vandenberg will have slightly more experience than whoever ends up getting the nod for PSU, but he'll still be fairly raw.  Yet all of the running backs should be back (Angry Running Back Hating God's wrath notwithstanding), as should many of the receiving options and everyone on the offensive line except for Vandervelde.  And the 2011 defense will be loaded with fresh faces, with three new starters along the defensive line, a pair of new linebackers, and at least one new face in the secondary.  So take note of what Penn State endures this year, because Iowa could be going through similar woes a year from now.

Mind you, one area that figures to be in Iowa 2011's favor is the schedule.  The Penn State 2010 schedule features a brutal gauntlet of road games, with dates against Alabama, Iowa, and Ohio State looking rather treacherous.  There's no Alabama on Iowa's slate (BHGP SPYZ can exclusively report that Iowa tried to schedule Bama, but Saban refuses to return Iowa's calls after what happened in the Capital One Bowl), but the 2011 schedule in place now has Iowa traveling to Penn State, Ohio State, and Wisconsin (as well as Iowa's personal house of horrors in Ames, IA).  Of course, with our new Big Red neighbors moving in for the 2011 season, that schedule's largely null and void from a conference perspective, so it's anyone's guess who Iowa will draw for road dates two falls from now.

But, good lord, do we ever digress.  PENN SCHTAATE.  Ahem.  So what about their 2010 schedule, eh?  PSU opens the season with four non-conference games: home games with Youngstown State, Kent State, and Temple sandwiched around a much-hyped road date with Alabama.  Penn State rarely struggles with I-AA or MAC opposition, so it's hard to see even a rebuilding PSU squad dropping one of those games.  Temple's a chic pick to win the MAC, but PSU hasn't lost to them since 1941 and it's hard to see that streak ending.  If anything, it seems like one of those games that's closer than expected for a half, until PSU pulls away in the second half.  On the other hand, it's difficult to project a win in Alabama.  While they do have the benefit of playing an inexperienced new Alabama defense early in the season, that's more than offset by the fact that Penn State will be taking a hugely inexperienced quarterback into a night game in Tuscaloosa.  Never mind the fact that PSU's own rebuilding defense will have the unenviable task of trying to slow an explosive and experienced Alabama offense.  3-1 through September seems pretty fair.

October brings four alternating home-and-away Big Ten games sandwiched around a bye week in the middle of the month.  They open October with a road game against Iowa; as noted, we're chalking that one up for Iowa. Fortunately (for PSU), the other three Big Ten games that month look quite winnable: home games against Illinois and Michigan and a road game at Minnesota.  Somewhat amazingly, the only two times that Penn State's lost to Illinois since 1960 were years in which Illinois went to BCS bowls (2001, 2007); chances are that isn't happening this year, so it's probably safe to label that a PSU win.  Minnesota's fared slightly better in their efforts against PSU (7-4 overall), but Brewster's never won a trophy game yet -- why start now?  Michigan famously had PSU's number for years under Lloyd Carr; RichRod hasn't been quite so lucky, overseeing a pair of losses by an average score of 41-14.  Until we see hard evidence of improvement, it's hard to put too much stock in Michigan yet.  3-1 in October seems reasonable, with a slight chance at 2-2 if one of those teams can pull an upset.

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The Governor's Victory Bell (pictured) is what Minnesota and Penn State play for (Nope, it's just a bell), but let's be honest: you want to know more about the inflatable duck, don't you?  Me too.

November sees the final four Big Ten games: home against Northwestern, away at Ohio State, a "neutral site" game against Indiana at FedEx Field, and a home game with Michigan State.  Northwestern is our bugaboo, not theirs.  Amazingly, Indiana is the one Big Ten foe that Penn State has never lost to; logic suggests that streak has to end at some point, but if Indiana couldn't beat weaker PSU teams in the early part of the Aughts, it's difficult to see them doing it against a better PSU now, especially when they sold away any potential home-field advantage.  PSU's nominal Big Ten rival, Michigan State, hasn't been much better since PSU joined the Big Ten in 1993: they have all of four wins over the Nittany Lions, the most recent in 2007.  And exactly none of those wins have come in Happy Valley.  But Ohio State... it's harder to see a win in that one, even if the historical series is pretty even (13-12 OSU) and Penn State did manage to win the last time it was in Columbus (10/25/08, also known as Sad Pryor Day).  A less-experienced and (arguably) less-talented OSU team dismantled a more-experienced and more-talented PSU team in Happy Valley a year ago -- hard to see what's changed that would lead to a reversal of that result.  

Another 3-1 mark seems plausible, which would leave them at 9-3 for the season.  8-4 wouldn't be a stunner, either; they "should" win the other nine games on their schedule, but if there are too many growing pains at QB or on defense, it's not hard to envision them dropping another game somewhere.

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Real quick things

Jeremy Boone was our punter. Somebody, I can’t remember who, blocked a punt in a game last year, and then might have returned it for a touchdown or something? Totally forgot about that. Collin Wagner was our kicker, and we don’t really like him. If not Fera, expect Temple-transfer walk-on Russell Tye to get the punter’s gig.

As far as the linebackers, we’re not too worried. Bowman and Lee were injured so often last year that there were maybe 2 or 3 games when they were both on the field at the same time. I’m not shedding a tear over the loss of Josh Hull, who wasn’t supposed to start last season, but then Mike Mauti got hurt. Mauti and Stupar are going to be the next big things at Penn State, maybe as soon as next year. The defensive backfield is going to be as good as hit has been in close to a decade, because Lynn and Morris are the best corners we’ve had since Alan Zemaitis. The biggest concern is the pass rush—I like Crawford a lot, but he’s more stout and disruptive than an edge rusher. We don’t really have the types who will get in the backfield—Devon Still might be that guy from the inside, but given Larry Johnson’s awesome lines, featuring so many guys who’ve come from nowhere to be All-Conference players.

My greatest concern is the offense. I’m not sold on Newsome, and I think we’d be better off with one of the freshmen, but that’s now how Joe rolls. I think the OL will struggle against the better defensive teams, though with Bama having so much to replace on that end, I think that might be our best chance to steal one, especially with a multi-faceted QB. I’d be thrilled to get 1 win out of those three games, and disappointed if we lost another. 9-3 is the probable outlook.

Fiya Minaya.

by BringBackBobby on Jun 28, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Corrections ahoy.
Jeremy Boone was our punter. Somebody, I can’t remember who, blocked a punt in a game last year, and then might have returned it for a touchdown or something? Totally forgot about that. Collin Wagner was our kicker, and we don’t really like him. If not Fera, expect Temple-transfer walk-on Russell Tye to get the punter’s gig.

Cheers I think I got turned around a little there by Phil Steele and his cornucopia of acronyms when I was writing that section.

I’m not shedding a tear over the loss of Josh Hull,

I’m shedding a tear over the loss of his creepy mustache, though.

I think the OL will struggle against the better defensive teams, though with Bama having so much to replace on that end, I think that might be our best chance to steal one, especially with a multi-faceted QB.

It’s fortuitous that you get them early, possibly before their defense has settled into its new, likely still terrifying self, but Tuscaloosa at night seems like a horrible setting for a newbie QB’s first start. PSU’s best option is probably to hope that the OL is improved and Royster and Green can keep the chains moving on offense; the less they have to rely on Newsome in that one, the better.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 28, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed..

on your assessment of the Bama game…PSU’s best hope on offense is to use their experience in the backfield to capitalize on their (relatively) veteran offensive line.

Also, cornucopia of acronyms is a phrase BHGP should use more often. +1 to you, sir.

Me gustan los estados unidos.

by hkobb7 on Jun 28, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't know

Charlie Villanueva played for Penn State

by Angle's Dangle on Jun 28, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Good write up

Pretty spot on I think.

One thing though, that’s not the Governor’s Victory Bell. It’s a victory bell, but not the Governor’s Victory Bell trophy they play for with Minnesota.

The bell in the picture was a victory bell that used to hang in the stadium but was taken down and stuffed in a closet somewhere. Years ago some senior class donated another victory bell that just hangs on top of the scoreboard in the south endzone. After a win they would play this cheesy bell ringing sound effect over the PA system. Then last year they found the bell in the picture above sitting in a storage room. They polished up and mounted it and last year they started a new tradition where the team captains ring the bell after a win. That’s what you see Sean Lee doing in the picture.

I have no explaination for the duck. Maybe it’s the Ringing of The Victory Bell brought to you by AFLACK.

by BSD on Jun 28, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmm.
One thing though, that’s not the Governor’s Victory Bell. It’s a victory bell, but not the Governor’s Victory Bell trophy they play for with Minnesota.

Goddamn you, Google Image Search.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 28, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the duck showed up during the White Out game.

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter

by xozte on Jun 28, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Obviously it’s at night. I don’t think it was the Iowa or Ohio State games because Lee wouldn’t be ringing the bell after a loss. I’m thinking this was after the Indiana game. I can’t remember if it rained that day.

by BSD on Jun 29, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indiana was a 12pm start...

And it didn’t rain that day. Navarro Bowman very slowly returned an interception for a TD…so maybe the game lasted longer than expected.

linois 2008 seemed like a good candidate til I remembered Sean Lee didn’t suit up all year.

Maybe it was Minnesota with all the wet snow.

by Kunk on Jul 1, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember the duck, but don't remember the game...

…but it was a day that Iowa either didn’t play or had a day game, cause (if I don’t have very-early-onset dimentia) I remember watching this.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 2, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Jack Crawford

He has a rare condition where he can’t grow any hair on his body. Notice he doesn’t have eyebrows.

by BSD on Jun 28, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

... freaky.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 28, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could have been the perfect swimmer.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 28, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has

Brazilian Syndrome?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jun 28, 2010 7:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good lord that's terrifying

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Jun 28, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now picture that mean looking dude talking with a heavy British accent. No so terrifying.

by BSD on Jun 29, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank God I'm a "Too Country" Girl

by letsgopsu on Jul 1, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The PSU game is a toss-up.

The last two have been toss-ups. If they beat Alabama, they sure won’t be fazed by pink urinals.

This is my favorite game of the year. When I used to drive west from NYC, I always felt, somewhere halfway across Penna, that the real world was coming into focus again. These two schools represent the same culture, only they have the ability to recruit better high school kids. Of course, we don’t give a shit because we work harder. But they are extremely talented, in the native sense. You know, we’re just limping along playing high school QBs at TE, and all that.

If we have an edge, it’s their rookie QB. We’ve been pretty hard on them, lately. I suspect all these 19 year-olds watch tape of Iowa and fall asleep after 15 minutes, inasmuch as there is no mystery to it. But the games turn out to be a little different.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Jun 28, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I don’t think Iowa’s victories over PSU are related to “hard work”. This is a Joe Paterno program we’re talking about.

It’s not Iowa’s advanced ethanol powered weight machines either. I blame in order a) the PSU program getting lazy in the mid 90s (Joe has admitted this, sorta), mainly in recruiting, and b) dysfunctional offensive line coaching since the departure of Craig Cirbus after ‘94. We have a good offensive line once every 3-4 years or so. That hasn’t and won’t cut it against Ferentz’s Iowa teams.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 28, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with your O-line analysis

What I can never figure out is why PSU never tries to make it a track meet…they always settle into that curious, funky Iowa rhythm, and next thing you know they (PSU that is) look awkward and uncomfortable.

I doubt you will agree with this but I will throw it out there. When Penn State abandoned fuck you football that made them so good for so many years—that football that worked on any surface, in any weather, against almost any team, when they were running endlessly with those motherfucker backs like Curtis Ennis and pounding away at you—and then suddenly (it seems from afar) adopted the current offense…whatever it is called they seemd to lost some identity. Deep in the psyche of this school and certainly this coach is the notion that they are a smash mouth team. Yes, on defense PSU can be very physical but your offense is no longer compatible with your defense IMO, or your history and, on occasion, these very tough intraleague slugfests.

These past couple of PSU v. Iowa games remind me of the Roberto Duran versus Sugar Ray Leonard fight (the first one in Montreal)…when Leonard foolishly went toe to toe with Duran because he felt his manhood had been challenged. I really think Iowa inadvertantly does this…they come at teams with zero trickery and challenge other teams to “fight like a man” and all those cliches. Playing Iowa is a seductive invite to enter into a kind of football fight club. We tease you not with taunts or verbal nonsense, but with an off-tackle play run on a predictable count, to the same side, over and over again whether we are up 10 or down 10. You either ignore it or, as often happens it seems, you get sidetracked and take it as a challenge. Of course, we hope you take it as a challenge. The Wisconsin game last year is the best example I can think of this…

Iowa plays a style of football that is akin to having someone poking you in the chest. Bottom line, no one likes to be poked in the chest….

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Jun 29, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oy vey, Lost Identity again

But this is the best you’ve put forward on the subject.

Crack is wac

by jtothep on Jun 29, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’d be, like, nice if you could respond to this so I don’t have to take the time to do it.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 29, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

You’re right; I don’t agree. I don’t know what offense we run, because my mind is drawn to defensive football. We do many different things, and I’m not football-smart enough to tell you what to call our offense. But we can beat Michigan State by several scores in snowy, cold weather. In 2008, we got the ball courtesy of Terrelle Pryor and with our backup quarterback we ran the football right at Little Mister Butkus Laurinatis and his awesome “Silver Bullets”, scoring on two consecutive drives. We threw the ball exactly once. Last winter, we defeated LSU on a field that was fresh out of the Battle of the Somme. We ran the ball down their throats too.

Penn State still has the old mentality at heart, we just don’t run everything from the i-formation like we did in the old days. If we have a good offensive line in 2011, I think we’ll beat Iowa.

I’d also add that I feel the reason we look “awkward and uncomfortable” is because our offense can’t block Matt Roth/Mitch King/Adrian Clayborn. I remember that our offense looked very good running the football in the second quarter of the 2008 Iowa-PSU game, but Iowa’s defense stood tall in the redzone and Clark’s erratic play combined with poor playcalling finished us off in the second half.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a fine response

The ‘lost identity’ thing is pretty ethereal, or at least conceptual and certainly subjective and is, as such, tough to counterpoint against. I’m with you, tho, in focusing on the causes of that interpretation (Oline impotence) rather than on the interpretation itself.

And with Iowa’s performance and production around their own Offensive Line coaching and simple identity, I can see why their fans are proud. I’m guessing SMA & Bellanca can also see how distracting the assertion we’ve lost ours is to our proud fans.

The best part is, this year at least, we get to chest poke it all on the field again.

Crack is wac

by jtothep on Jun 29, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very good retort

but I believe if I shot each of you with truth serum, ala a Batman episode, you both would say you feel your offensive identity is not very strong, not where you would like it to be…not quite symbiotic with your defensive mindset. I would argue that offensively Northwestern has a more secure identity offensively than PSU right at this moment.

I get frustrated with Iowa fans who do not like our offensive identity, but I feel it is a very identifiable identity.

I’ll put it another way, if I were a star H.S. RB…a big bruising running back coming out of high school in NJ and PSU and, say, Rutgers came calling…I would probably go to Rutgers. They are more convincingly run oriented to me—between the tackles. If I were an athletic, speed burner RB with good hands and I were recruited by PSU and, say, West Virginia came calling…I would probably go with West Virginia.

My point being that your offense lacks a strong brand identity to me. And when I say identity, I am referring to the psychological definition of identity. Human beings play all sorts of roles in life and can adapt to all kind of situations, but under stress they resort to their truest of identities. It is why Iowa will always run on 3rd and 2 in the red zone with the game on the line. They just can’t throw the ball with conviction. It isn’t who they are…they do not see that offense in the mirror when they wake up in the morning.

You guys get awesome recruits because you…are….penn…state. So no matter what offense you run you will have success but definitionally I am lost on WHO you are on that side of the ball. And that might be the point of this offense. Certainly busting trends and tendencies are a serious offesive game plan. But I don’t know what to expect from your guys this year on offense, at all. And well…maybe that gives you the edge.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Jun 29, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look

I like coming over as much as the next Penn Stater, but I ain’t takin none of your freakin truth serum, you creepy pusher! Inject it yourself and come back to me with Rutgers and West Virginia. Lolz Batman, tho.

Keep it up, tho. I love your work. Identifiable Identity Indeed.

Crack is wac

by jtothep on Jun 29, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I envy you and your ability to not argue when you don’t really feel like doing so.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 29, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think your last paragraph basically stumbled onto what I’m now thinking, so thanks for that.

What we saw in 2008 was the whole goal. The ability to pass, the ability to run exotics, and the ability to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrMIs30B8pU

What Tony Hunt did to Tennessee is still a capability Penn State retains.

Penn State’s offense reminds me of McNamarian military vehicles. They were designed to do many different things, but they were often unable to do them exceptionally well, just ok. That’s not a great example, though, because when Penn State has a good offensive line, we will do many different things exceptionally well. Identity or not.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 29, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should point out

that while I think Iowa has a strong, very identifiable offensive identity, I am not sure that this offense gets you to the promise land. So please don’t confuse my argument of Iowa having a strong offensive identity with me arguing that Iowa has a strong offense.

I think it should be good enough, as Bama showed last year, a vanilla offense can be more than enough with solid execution. But, it takes a superior defense to complement the sort of offense we choose to have.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Jun 29, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is an awesome description of how Iowa plays ball.

I like turtles.

by lilzaphod on Jun 30, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that it's a toss up

After all, there’s about a 50% chance PSU loses by 3, and about a 50% chance PSU loses by 7.

by The Great Dark Spot Near Uranus on Jun 30, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 28, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you’ve never read this rant about the movie the Program, and how Iowa kicks their butts, here’s a chunk:

So let me get this straight – when ESU rolls into Iowa City, Iowa to take on my Iowa Hawkeyes, I’m supposed to be hoping that Joe Kane and his band of miscreants beat the clean-living, God-fearing, farm boys from the Heartland? In Kinnick Stadium? And with everything on the line, fourth down and goal and the Hawks trying to score a winning touchdown, I’m still supposed to hope that some fake team that looks like one of those Division II schools we’d schedule in August for an easy win sends 70,000 rabid Hawk fans home disappointed? I don’t think so.

When the Iowa player barrels over the newly steroid-free Lattimer into the endzone for the dramatic win, I was cheering! Heck, I thought the movie was over right then and there! Hawks win! Hawks win! Bogus movie team crawls back to Hollywood with their vulgar values and sinful lifestyles! Good triumphs over evil! Next stop on Iowa’s world tour of gridiron glory is that other Hollywood, Notre Dame! We beat the left coast liberals, now bring on the Catholics!

A funny thing happened though. This movie went on for another twenty minutes! I don’t know what happened or really care because I was celebrating the big win, setting my couch on fire, slamming Pabsts, and beating up any Iowa State Cyclone fans that happened to wander by! It looked like Coach James Caan was trying to give Joe Kane one of those “your team needs you now” pep talks during their final game, but I couldn’t hear nothing over my singing of the Iowa fight song! We’re going to fight, fight, fight for I-o-wa!

by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, this.

I always root for Iowa during that portion of The Program. I also root for them during The Waterboy.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 29, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I root for them during

Coach until I remember that I’m watching Coach. At that point I look around to make sure no one has seen me, quickly change the channel to Telemundo and pretend like nothing has happengoooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllll!!!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 29, 2010 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is nothing wrong whatsoever with liking Coach.

Screaming Eagles FTW.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 29, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Screamin' Eagles

did play Iowa in one episode of Coach. Hayden, Luther and Dauber were pissing themselves in fear before the game in the coaches office when they get a knock on the door, and open it to find an Iowa football player in full pads, jersey numbers at top-of-the-doorway level (you cant see his head) and the players says “excuse me, where is the visitors’ locker room?” in a very deep voice. “Coach” simply points, jaw dropped, and when the player leaves they continue to be even more scared. Iowa won that “game”.

Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.

by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 29, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course Iowa won.

They were playing a team from Minnesota.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 29, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have seen that episode...

…and many, many others.

Does anyone remember the show where Dabney Coleman played a teacher who was also a rabid Iowa fan?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 29, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, you mean Drexell's Class, season 1 episode 13?

“My Own Private Iowa”…

Fun facts: That show featured a very young Pie Fucker Jason Biggs, and a very young, post Kids Incorporated Brittany Murphy (though she was on only once after Fergie, J. Love-Hewitt and Mario Lopez had already departed).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 29, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the way...

…I don’t have the show on DVD or anything (I had to look up the name and episode number), but I did remember Drexell’s Class (sometimes I confuse it with Head Of The Class) and though I never saw the show back in the day, I just heard the alma maters of Kids Inc recently (when I was looking for the name of the Iowa episode I saw the late Ms. Murphy’s act-ography and spotted Kids Inc) and couldn’t help myself.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 29, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually remember...

watching some “Head of the Class.” However, I have never heard of Drexell’s Class. I usually tolerate/enjoy Dabney Coleman, and with the detail that his character loved Iowa, I sort of wish I had seen it.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 29, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't only that episode

I haven’t seen the show since it aired, so obviously my memory is not 100% clear here, but I seem to recall there being a hawkeye football helmet lamp on top of Drexel’s (Coleman’s character) TV at his home/apartment/whatever. The Hawks got mentioned (in dialogue) in several episodes, if I remember correctly.

I do remember thinking back then that the show wasn’t particularly good. But who knows if I’d feel the same way now.

by The Great Dark Spot Near Uranus on Jun 30, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you mentioned that...

…cause I’ve wanted a Hawkeye helmet lamp ever since and didn’t remember why.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 2, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is an outstanding rant

I like The Program, but the truth is I’d probably like it a less if Iowa had lost. I don’t know what that says about me.

by The Great Dark Spot Near Uranus on Jun 30, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Latimore

mean mother?
I thought he was just another punk that got his ass handed to him by the Hawkeyes.
 That game ended Alvin Mack’s career as well.
Ever notice the Hawkeyes are part of every college football movie, or TV series?
Apparently, the Hawkeyes captivate the USA…..needless to say, the feeling is mutual.

Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina

by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Jun 28, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

meaner than

your mother anyway

by BnFnG on Jun 29, 2010 9:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Was it...

The Waterboy?

Master of the convoluted IOWA cheers!

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 2, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

bingo

Or lattimer? Fuck it. I ain’t askin’

by BnFnG on Jun 28, 2010 6:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Great write up

I think everything is accurate and agreeable. My prediction has officially been 8-4 and a trip to the Outback to face Florida, where we will continue our proud tradition of defeating mediocre SEC teams. The mystery to me is where the 4th loss comes from, likely Minnesota (we come out flat after the bye week) or Michigan… 9-3 should get us back to the Citris Bowl and that would, in my mind, be a huge success for this team.

by millzners on Jun 28, 2010 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

did the Duck replace the traveling

bowling Land Grant awesome trophy?.

if so, maybe neighboring Bugeaters will take notice for future rivalry game.

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Jun 28, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

The Land Grant

doesn’t do much traveling.

For obscurity's sake, people, Evan Hailes needs you.

by KevinHD on Jun 28, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's pretty dominate for an

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Jun 28, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's funny is

It is slowly becoming a rivalry between the schools, PSU fans myself included have a grudge against Dantonio. The PSU loss in 2007 was terrible, then in 2008 Dantonio called a bunch of timeouts at the end of the game (down by 35 points) in the bitter cold to spite the fans and students. Then in 2009, tied at the half, Dantonio told reporters with a smug smile “we’re going to score more points” with regard to his plan to beat PSU. The man just exudes douche bag.

by millzners on Jun 29, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

It does have to go to E Lansing every other year

Regardless of if it goes straight back to State College on the equipment truck. So yeah, it still travels. Occassionally it even gets to stay in E Lansing for a year before going back to Happy Valley.

by PackerHawk on Jun 28, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

end of year "rivalry" game.

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Jun 28, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Part 2 well done.

This is where I disagree for fun:

I think the night thing, while certainly not irrelevant, is overstated. We hadn’t beaten OSU in cbus in years and did it in 2008 at night. They had no problems kicking our asses last year, at night, and I seem to remember them doing something similar to Iowa a year or two before that, although maybe I’m mixing you guys up with someone else.

Not that I think it’s fair we have to play three top-10 teams away and at night, but that’s how they’re dealt I guess.

Special teams are under-rated in the failure of PSU’s 2009 season. I know you guys love that one return, which was total ST FAIL the more you learn about it. The Ohio State game was similarly poisoning, especially the net punting that seemed to be negative at times.

Getting the line together worries me more about the QB thing, not because it’s going to be difficult to get it together, but because I don’t think it matters who the QB is if we get a decent line. Clark was knocked out of the Ohio State game in 2008—the game right before 2008 Iowa—and we came from behind anyway with a backup, mostly because our backup had to do very little…and that was against one of the better defenses in the country that year.

For obscurity's sake, people, Evan Hailes needs you.

by KevinHD on Jun 28, 2010 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

The Ohio State game was in the day. I’m sure of this, because I was not watching the “game” when night fell.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 28, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which Ohio State game are you talking about?

For obscurity's sake, people, Evan Hailes needs you.

by KevinHD on Jun 28, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

2009 “game”.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that the night game thing can certainly be overstated at times.

I tend to think it’s more relevant with inexperienced players, particularly inexperienced quarterbacks, which is what Penn State is going to have this year. On the plus side, they appear to have plenty of experience at the other offensive positions, so if banana peel and stop sign can avoid getting manhandled like they did in 2009, they may be able to lessen the pressure on the PSU QB.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 29, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

You didn’t post this picture of our kicker:

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 28, 2010 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

That can't be real, but if it is get that kid in some phyics classes.

We’ll have free energy for everyone in 5 years with a head like that working on the problem.

by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 28, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That ain't a forehead...

that’s a five-head.

/Joe Buck’d

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 29, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

You could project movies on that thing, in 1080p

Forehead HD

(See what I did there?)

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Jun 29, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus, maybe he's the real bullet-head.

That thing tapers to a nasty-looking point there.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 29, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOD!

Who picked out his tie?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 29, 2010 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your mom.

Master of the convoluted IOWA cheers!

by EnergizerHawk on Jun 29, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rambler, you look different.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 30, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sup Party PPL!

Great work, again, Ross. Awesome photo finds. I’m not sure how I feel that Sean Lee’s stalker throws ducks at him instead of panties. Loved the TFL statwork you put in on our Dline. That’s some pretty decent production last year for an otherwise no-name line. I’m loving this relative anonymity. Very similar to post-07, pre-08 (Aaron Maybin, theretofore, was a skinny kid known more for a great attitude and trouble keeping weight on), cept more real production and less dudes smokin weed.

We’ve got similar anonymity at LB, but with a more legitimate lack of previous production. No real names, but sick athletes (Gawd we hope Gerald Hodges can see some PT, apologies to Bani). Secondary kinda the same. Not that there’s ever gonna be Name Recognition playing in a Cover 3, but Lynn & Morris (best pure CB mentality I’ve seen here in years—such the right mindset) may be the best CB tandem we’ve had there the past 10 years, and there’s some depth with Powell and Thomas. Epic Sukay’ll still be a victim of our scheme, but I’m hoping his experience will give him better angles on arm punts this year.

Lastly, tho, with all this exhaustive research, I can’t believe you missed doggin out our ‘Punter’ (I’m still openly lobbying for RUTS to try out—he was all-conference punter in HS) for his drink of choice.

Thanks for the writeup; Can’t wait for 10/2!

Crack is wac

by jtothep on Jun 29, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Who am I to doubt a young man's fondness for Cruzan Mango Rum?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 29, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

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