WORLD CUP OPEN THREAD, Day 17: The Germans Are Coming!
by RossWB on Jun 27, 2010 9:14 AM CDT
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9:00 CT, ESPN: England vs. Germany Blah blah blah World War II blah blah blah penalty kicks blah blah blah storied rivals blah blah blah. Forget the history and just enjoy the soccer: the English and Germans are two sides loaded with a fair amount of talent -- even if both sides (particularly the English) spent portions of the group stage looking like most of that talent was more focused on their post-tournament vacations than on doing much in the group stage games. Here's hoping the spirit of the rivalry sparks some better play out of them here.
1:30 CT, ABC: Argentina vs. Mexico Even if Mexico wasn't the U.S.' main soccer nemesis and schadenfreude didn't demand that we root against them here, it would be hard not to based purely on their opponent. From an entertainment standpoint, few teams in this tournament have been as dynamite as Argentina, led by their on-field mighty mite, Messi, and their off-field maniacal mite, Maradona. So, yes, we hope that they stomp Mexico into the ground here.
Anyhoo, usual rules of game threads apply: no porn, no discussion of piracy; if you can't watch the game on TV, there are legal online streams at ESPN3.com. (EDIT: Apparently no stream on ESPN3.com for the ABC games.) Beyond that, the topic is verboten.
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GOAL! Germany!
Klose puts them up 1-0.
And, hey, England? Not a good idea to try and duplicate the efforts of the US center backs yesterday.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
12 goals in World Cup matches for Klose.
Pretty damn impressive. 4 more and he has the all-time record.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Best thing about this game:
since both fanbases are huge and typically vocal, the vuvuzuela din is at only a dull roar today.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Had that gone in
I would like to have seen the odds of Jermaine Defoe scoring two World Cup goals.
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This is going to be a brutal week in the English tabloids.
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Whoops.
GOAL! Germany! 2-0 now.
Podolski amazingly didn’t look like shit there. Not a good game for Calamity James so far.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That's what we were talking about last night.
The German chances have been no better than those of the US yesterday, but the finishing is top-flight. It’s the last stage of evolution for becoming a “true” soccer nation.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he has some brothers who can immigrate.
We really do need some forwards with world-class finishing. Maybe Jozy will get there one day, but it’s a ways off now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And this is exactly the sort of shitty example of why.....
… my sports loyalties don’t really extend far beyond Iowa City. It’s just a waste of emotional investment.
On Iowa
Ooh, that was close.
If England can pull a goal back before halftime, they might have a shot yet.
… Although probably not with shambolic defending like that. Jesus.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hey! An ENG goal!
We gots us a game, maybe. 2-1 now after a header from Matthew Upson.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
OK, this is quickly becoming the best match of the tourney.
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WAT
How did that not go in?
Oh, wait, it was. What is the fucking ref’s assistant doing?
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This match is completely insane
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How many goals have been screwed up by officials now?
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Even the B10 has "replay technology"....
…. jeezes no wonder this sport is only popular in every other country not a superpower.
On Iowa
Hey Chazz, I like your second account name...
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
wrong dude kyle
somehow I think you’ve woken up next to a similar “woman” in the past…..
On Iowa
by keosahawkeye on Jun 27, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Whoosh!
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't me.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 27, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Ashley Cole's leg falls off...fucking traitor.
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He related to Andy Cole?
Here’s a supporters song I remember from my days in England ~ “Old football is rubbish, but not as rusbbish as An-dy Cole!”
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Did Andy Cole ever leave Arsenal for Chelsea?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't think so.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Three goals and one added minute?
Really?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
England does need Rooney to stop his Invisible Man routine in the 2nd half, though.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
HT!
2-1 Germany. This game has been a gas so far, though.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
How badly do England fans miss
Tony Adams and David Seaman?
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Jurgen Klinsman looks nervous.
Probably because he’s waiting for Tirico and McManaman to team up and attack him.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Like a WWII reenactment ?
Does Eric Cantona function as a resistance fighter behind the set?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
McNanaman and Klinsman talking about goal line technology at the half...
…even if the technology isn’t there yet, couldn’t they simply place two officials on either touchline for the game’s entirety just like MLB has extra umps for the World Series? It’s not like there’s a more important event going on that they couldn’t spare the refs.
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You'd think.
Maybe FIFA can’t afford a few more refHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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A question
Is having six idiots in charge of the match actually better than having four?
(Also, the chip-in-ball stuff they keep talking about is a hell of a lot more difficult than they seem to think, mostly because you’d almost certainly break the transmitter about two minutes into the match.)
Whatever ESPN was using...
to show that it was clearly a goal, seemed to work.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 27, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, if they're not really "in charge" of anything more than determining whether something is a goal...
there’s limited damage they could do.
Although I’ve long thought that soccer needs more officials. It’s asinine that a sport played by twice as many people on a considerably larger field has fewer referees than basketball. (Yes, there are linesmen and so forth, but they have limited influence.)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
A properly placed official ...
who is not Mr. Magoo would have called that correctly. No tech needed.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
If that uncalled goal ends up costing ENG the match...
it may end up being a blessing for Capello and the squad. The controversy over the goal-that-wasn’t may overshadow the fact that this was a deeply flawed team. They’re old and slow, shockingly weak at the back (though injuries are part of that), their best keeper is probably sitting on the bench because Capello failed to get him enough time in friendlies/qualifiers (Joe Hart), their midfield is dysfunctional and way too narrow, and their best player (Rooney) has spent most of the tourney being completely invisible.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Lamps is thisclose to telling the crossbar to go fuck itself.
It is not his day today so far.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Is James aware...
that he’s playing in a World Cup knockout game?
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions
Great goal.
Raw power and accuracy. Good for Muller, he’s been great so far.
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And that is how you counterattack.
3-1 Germany now. GOAL, Muller.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Again: that is how you counterattack.
4-1 Germany. Good night, England.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Haven't seen the English take a German beating like this since 1940.
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by BoilerTMill on Jun 27, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm waiting for Tyler...
to mention Dunkirk.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
They're getting blitzed!
/killsself
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I'm still upset about yesterday...
But at least I’m not an England fan.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions
Does Capello realize he needs to SCORE goals now?
Bringing on Heskey? He couldn’t find the back of the net with a GPS unit.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, I'm sure as fuck glad we didn't play Germany in this round.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Are you kidding?
Ricardo Clark would have pwned Klose…in pre-game warm-ups?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Thugging it up in pre-game warm-ups may have been our only hope.
Although I’d like to think Timmy wouldn’t have looked quite as hapless as Calamity James.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Write the future...
I think Rooney’s future will include a Ziplock bag of crystal meth, an AK-47, three rabid pit bulls and a hostage negotiator.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions
That differs from a normal night out in Manchester how?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
AK, pit bulls, meth ...
It’s an Oelwein Party Pack!
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
@ BHNoP
+50662
(Oelwein Zip Code)
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by WaterlooChazz on Jun 27, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
usually its TWO bags of crystal meth. that and a cheap hooker
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by BoilerTMill on Jun 27, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
It's Manchester:
a cheap hooker. Economy of words, my friend…
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Mick Jagger is bad luck.
Can we get him in the stands for Mexico this afternoon?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think we need a Mexico win:
1. CONCACAF solidarity
2. save the world from a streaking Maradona
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by BoilerTMill on Jun 27, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Fuck CONCACAF solidarity.
I would bet my dog’s life on the fact that they wouldn’t turn around and cheer for the U.S. in that situation.
Streaking Maradona is still a terrifying image, though.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
How many Tri fans do you know, Ross?
Here in LA, the vast majority of futbol fans cheer for both Mexico and los Estados Unidos.
"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson
by EastLosRandy on Jun 30, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with Ross.
To Hell with Mexico. I blame all this “solidarity” bullshit on the SEC. Seriously, why should I ever want Minnesota to win anything? Also, fuck Lech Walesa, just because.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
ESPN 3 just killed my computer.
Does Germany have 8 goals yet?
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No, they're being surprisingly merciful.
Still just the four goals.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Only feels like it...
No ABC?
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
This one's on ESPN.
Afternoon game on ABC.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And I'm watching the game live...
You’d think I would realize this.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, it appears as though Soccernet just died.
Anyone else having problems?
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Seems fine to me.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So do we get a rousing chorus of Deutscheland Uber Alles now?
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Time to get cracking on that hobo beard, Rooney.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, it is very odd. He was such a non-factor in these games.
Part of might have been physical — he came off with an ankle injury against Slovenia and I don’t think he’s been the same guy, period, since getting hurt in a Champions League match with Bayern Munich in April. I don’t know if he ever got fully healed from that knock.
Part of it might be his teammates — he wasn’t getting very good service from the dysfunctional Gerrard/Lamps midfield — and the formations, which didn’t utilize him quite the same way that Man United uses him (where he’s such a killer).
But, really… a lot of is on him, too. He just looked so unenthused and invisible so much of the time that it has to reflect badly on him. You’d really think a world-class player like him would do more to get into the game and be involved… but he didn’t. Very weird.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Donovan did say prior to the tourney
that Rooney looked tired. Maybe we shouldn’t have laughed.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought Gerrard was at least giving great effort in the USA game. Since then, I haven’t noticed him. Similar to how Lampard seemed to give good effort today, but I didn’t really notice him earlier in the tourney.
But, the whole English offense was a mess. They scored less goals than the US, and you know how I feel about that.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 27, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN's front page
says the non-goal will “forever mar” the result. Um, it was disgraceful to be sure, but this was a blowout.
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England's pathetic defense will "forever mar" this game.
Yeah, the disallowed goal might have shifted the momentum some, but the way England defended all day, you’ll never convince me Germany wouldn’t have found some more goals out there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This times a zillion
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That said...
I also hope the end result doesn’t let FIFA off the hook. The missed goal may not have ultimately influenced the outcome, but it’s still a disgrace — and something that could be fixed oh so easily.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Maybe now that the officiating has hurt
one of the most influential nations in the soccer world, FIFA will finally look at implementing limited video replay. I’m hoping that with enough of the big nations starting to be vocal about the issue, it will actually be seriously considered.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 27, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
England needs to clean house on a lot of this current generation of players.
Terry, Gerrard, Lamps, James, the Coles… they’ve won a lot for their clubs, but they’ve sucked it up on the international stage. Time for a fresh start. Clean them out in time to get the new crop some experience in the 2012 Euros.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Seriously, though
what do they have coming that’s any better? Hargreaves?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Soccer is like every other English athletic invention;
an incredible game that other countries soon better them in. Soccer, cricket, rugby, tennis…they’ll always have croquet, right?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Do they get credit for golf, too?
Or just the Scots?
I think they may be falling behind the curve in croquet, too. Sad day, Engerlund.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Nope, Scottish all the way.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, that is the catch.
The EPL doesn’t do a lot to foster the growth of up-and-coming English talent. Just look at the roster of the last England U-21 team — not a lot of guys getting a lot of run with their club teams there. And thinking of guys in the 21-25 age range is tough, too. I think Milner will be the heart of the England side going forward (he should move inside to replace Lamps or Gerrard) and Rooney’s still young enough to feature in tourneys for the next 6-8 years, probably… but it’s definitely tough to see where these hot new faces are coming from.
Still, the current generation is only going to get older, slower, and crappier.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Whoops, forgot the link.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, what gives?
Asshole…
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Let the Theo Walcott era begin.
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-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 27, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The trajectories of the two nations seems to be heading in opposite directions.
The English game as stagnated. They’re not bad, but the quality of their players isn’t getting any better. The U.S. seems to improve with every World Cup, even if the results don’t show it. The future of the USMNT is bright.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
One, decide whether or not to keep Bob Bradley.
He did some good things for the U.S. team, but his starting line-ups were pretty questionable at times (WHY FINDLEY WHY WHY WHY) and his pre-game prep has to be called into question: the U.S. started off flat and disorganized way, way too much, both in this tourney and in various qualifiers and friendlies. God bless ‘em for being able to turn things around so magnificently so often, but good teams don’t constantly dig themselves holes. I’m beginning to side with those who think the U.S. needs to get a manager with South American/European experience to try and improve the U.S.’s technical and tactical abilities.
Two, find strikers who can fucking finish. We haven’t had a forward score a goal since 2002. I love Jozy, but he’s still raw. Sidenote: maybe this is why Herc and Buddle should’ve played more: they made the team because they were scoring boatloads of goals for their club teams and scored some for the U.S. in friendlies… obviously scoring in the Mexican league isn’t the same as scoring in the World Cup… but, fuck, scoring is still scoring. Give me guys who know how to finish. Jozy wasn’t exactly prolific this past season.
Three, improve the defense. Not having a fully fit Gooch hurt, but this World Cup also revealed how thin we are back there. I thought the fullbacks played better than expected (shocking, considering Bornstein was a walking disaster at times when he saw the field leading up to the WC), but the centerbacks were weak at times. They played a fairly big role in damn near every goal the U.S. conceded here. For years, the U.S.‘s success was built on a tough backline… well, that script was reversed this year, but when you need to outscore teams and your forwards can’t score… that’s a tough battle to win.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I don't think we'll see Bradley around much longer
if only because it’s very rare for national coaches to stick around for more than one WC cycle. People loved Arena after ‘02 but he’d clearly worn out his welcome by ’06.
Bradley has been great for this side, and while I don’t fault him for the slow starts (c’mon, these guys are fucking professionals; nearly nothing a coach says or does for players this age will change focus) I think it’s safe to say that his line-ups for this tourney were somewhat disastrous. Yet it’s the fact that he takes so many chances with unproven players that his guys seem to love him. Arena used to only play “his guys” (a 90-year-old Jeff Agoos comes to mind) where Bradley gave shots to a lot of kids. You could see the father-like moment he had on the sidelines with Ricardo Clark after he was subbed out; Clark was clearly shattered and BB was right there in his ear taking the blame for putting him in a position to fail. It was really a touching moment.
Sadly, there’s nothing the USMNT can do to improve the quality of its strikers. This needs to develop at a a) youth level and b) club level. The US is doing well on the youth front, but I’m afraid too many players make the jump to Europe too early before they’ve used the MLS as an incubator long enough. If we could get some of this kids to resist the pull of the other side of the Atlantic I think they’d end up being a bit more polished.
Just one hack’s opinion.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, good point re: coaches not lasting for multiple World Cups.
The slow start is a puzzler. Bradley typically made good adjustments during the game and at halftime and they always seemed to come out more fired up after halftime… but they started flat and disorganized very often under him. Maybe it’s more on the players than him, but whatever it is needs to get sorted out ASAP.
Bradley certainly deserves credit for not being too loyal to guys who didn’t deserve it (although I think this reliance on Findley came perilously close to that sort of failure), but I’m not sure his constant tinkering was helpful. Yeah, injuries and fatigue were a factor there, but new faces coming in and out of the starting line-up had to have a negative impact on the rhythm and organization of the team. I think the spots where it hurt the most where the partnerships at central defense, central midfield, and up front. There wasn’t much to do about the back — Gooch’s injury couldn’t be helped. But it was a revolving door next to Bradley and Jozy.
The US is doing well on the youth front, but I’m afraid too many players make the jump to Europe too early before they’ve used the MLS as an incubator long enough. If we could get some of this kids to resist the pull of the other side of the Atlantic I think they’d end up being a bit more polished.
Yeah. Unfortunately, when Euro sides offer big money transfers for teenagers like Adu and Jozy, it’s hard to say no to that kind of scratch and work for comparative minimum wage in MLS.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Watched the postgame....
They talked about the future for England and the U.S. Couldn’t help but wonder if Klinsmann making a subtle pitch to U.S.A. Soccer.
There’s a history there…I suspect I was just hearing things.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
His name will always be at the top of the list.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I had the opposite impression re: playing "his guys"
Findley should never have seen the field, not when we have two in-form strikers (Buddle and Gomez) and a third (Altidore) who has shown flashes and is at least drawing fouls and cards even when his final touch is off. Yet he starts all three games where he’s available … and naturally, the only one where we look dangerous for almost the full 90 instead of a half of EPIC FAIL in the attacking third is the one where he’s out with yellows.
BHNoP may be psychic...
It sounds slightly ominous for Bradley.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 28, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Trajectories...
In the near term, England is headed sharply down. Stanzi? Steadily rising.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
A wipeout?
Ass-over-tit? A Beach? Boar(e)d? Watered-down? Yeah, I’m pretty much done.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Slipping away?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Washed up?
Please stop me before I kill again!
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Shark bait?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Inverted?
Water boarded? Marinated in brine?
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jun 27, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooh, all good options!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
You forgot:
wave-fucked.
Master of the convoluted IOWA cheers!
by EnergizerHawk on Jun 27, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
So... not a banner day for referees.
GOL (maybe) for Tevez and Argentina… even though he was blatantly offside.
Still: fuck Mexico.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And we have another official screw up!
The Argies were well offside.
The Mexicans are indignant! No one here gives a fuck.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions
I would sympathize with the indignation (justified, of course) for anyone but Mexico.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hoo boy
another offsides goal. Will FIFA ever change? Seriously, is there anyone that can exert enough pressure on them?
Did Maradona
just hug a FIFA official?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions
Did he slip him an envelope too?
Or just the name of his coke dealer?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hand of Fraud?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
MexicLOL
Nice backpass there, Mexico. GOL Argentina (this time legit) for Higuain, now they’re up 2-0.
And Higuain moves into the lead for the Golden Boot — 4 goals now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yakety Sax time for Mexico's defense.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone know the Spanish word for "schadenfreude"?
Because I am reveling in it right now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Fight?
Mexico and Argentinian players scrapping at the benches heading into halftime.
2-0 ARG at HT.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
When Maradona is the voice of reason...
you know the world has gone crazy.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 27, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Mexico is already in full self-destruct mode.
Remember the closing minutes against the US in ’02? Easily the worst sports in all of soccer (Italy a close 2nd).
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
They will go down swinging.
Like literally swing fists and cleats at anyone in their vicinity.
I wonder if their fans managed to smuggle in any bags of urine or batteries to chuck at the refs or Argentine players.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
HOLY SHITBALLS
Tevez with a spectacular goal from distance. 3-0 ARG now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It is amusing to watch Argentina's keeper dive at shots a second or two too late.
If Mexico’s shots were a touch more accurate, this game might still be close.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, fair's fair -- that was a good goal by Hernandez for Mexico.
3-1 now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
With Chicharito and Dos Santos and a bunch of other good young players
Mexico may finally make the quarters in 2014.
"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson
by EastLosRandy on Jun 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Maradona kind of reminds me of someone...
Nervous? Check. Sweaty? Check. Going through withdrawal? Holy shit, check.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Hoosiers has been on Versus channel...
a couple times this weekend. Maybe Maradona caught a showing and emulated “Shooter.”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 27, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
FT!
3-1 Argentina.
Suck it, Mexico.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Bitches 'til the end
Mexico still jawing at officials after the game. Go. Home.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 27, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
started to root for them
but then the wound it being whiny pussies. no leadership on that team.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jun 27, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
wow the dumbass announcers never learned one thing after yesterday. usa playing uruguay before usa got off the bus
and now they are touting a brazil-argentina game as if it is july 11.
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
holland vs. germany IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!! yes jinx them all you dumbasses!
loser coach and beckham whinning like a baby!
im sorry but germany would have lambasted USA. england and the american media whining about a goal that meant little in this game. if you dont think germany wouldnt have continued to paste that awful goalkeeper think again! what a horrible keeper. both of them. the 3 lions and no goalkeeper! you have bigger problems england…YOU STINK! your whiny coach needs to look in the mirror and see a team whose no match against the real top teams. you may be able to beat or tie usa but germany isnt usa. (insert laughing)
I said this team with beckham by their side was the most overrated of the tournament and they were outted as exactly that.
payback for 1966 england! OUCH how does it feel to be on the other end???
argentina – germany COULD be a worthy final
i hope everybody looks past germany AND holland! what are the odds of my dream match happening. keep talking you idiot announcers! not everybody thinks argentina vs brazil is a given
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