WORLD CUP OPEN THREAD, DAY 13: USA. Algeria. It's On.
by RossWB on Jun 23, 2010 7:30 AM CDT
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Amazingly, every single team playing today could make it into the next round of games -- and every single team playing today could also fail to make it to the next round. These two groups are riddled with chaos and parity -- which is good news if you're a fan, because there should be some full-tilt soccer on display today.
9:00 CT, ESPN: USA vs. Algeria (Group C). Obviously this is the big one from our perspective and the game of the day. Thanks to England's dire draw with Algeria last Friday, the U.S. once again controls its own destiny -- win and we're through to the knockout rounds. Lose and we're toast. Technically, we can also get through with a draw, depending on what happens in the England game, but let's be honest: we need to win this game. On paper, it's a game America should win. Nate Silver's Soccer Power Index ranks America 16th and Algeria 66th; the SPI Match Predictor gives the U.S. 50% odds of winning the game. But nothing is guaranteed; Algeria played inspired defense against England and, having secured a point from that draw, they now have something to play for in this game, since a win could see them through to the next round. On the other hand, that may benefit the U.S. from a tactical sense; with a win a necessity to advance, Algeria should be forced to come forward and attack, leaving the U.S. with more opportunities to counter-attack.
There's also the matter of history -- the U.S. has never won the third game in the group stage of the World Cup and they have a terrible knack of coming up small when the pressure is on them to perform up to high expectations. They'll need to break those trends (as well as the recent trend of conceding an early goal), but it's not as if they need to look too far back to see an example of U.S. success in a do-or-die situation. A year ago at the Confederations Cup, the U.S. was in a seemingly hopeless position heading into their third and final group against Egypt (who are, slightly ironically, the hated rivals of Algeria)... and that turned out pretty well. Things aren't nearly as desperate now, but let's hope the U.S. has a similar performance in store.
9:00 CT, ESPN2: England vs. Slovenia (Group C). The "other" game in our group. In an ideal world, the U.S. would score early in their game and Slovenia would score early in this one to take some of the pressure off the U.S.; if the reverse happens and the English get an early goal while the U.S. has to spend much of the game chasing a goal, the tension is going to mount. If England plays as poorly as they did against Algeria in this game, they will almost certainly lose, their World Cup will be over, and they can join the French in the ranks of "hideously talented underachievers" from this year's World Cup. Their underachieving might be even worse, considering that (a) they're supposed to be good (#5 in the aforementioned SPI) and (b) unlike the French, they've actually been trying to win.
1:30 CT, ESPN: Ghana vs. Germany (Group D). Ghana's one of the few teams playing today that can advance with a draw and no help; unfortunately, they're facing a German team that likely needs a win to advance. The Black Stars have defended well in the tournament thus far (only one goal conceded) and the German offense didn't look nearly as lethal in their 1-0 loss to Serbia as it did in their 4-0 drubbing of Australia. They'll also be without arguably their best striker, Miroslav Klose, thanks to a mandatory red card suspension. On the other hand... they're Germany, you know? Die Mannschaft always seem to find a way to go deep into the World Cup (a record 11 semifinal appearances) -- and they never seem fail to make it out of the group stage (they've made it to the final eight in 14 straight World Cups).
1:30 CT, ESPN2: Serbia vs. Australia (Group D). Australia looked dead and buried after getting pantsed 4-0 by the Germans and going down a man in the opening twenty-five minutes against Ghana, but they somehow scraped out a 1-1 draw and, improbably, find themselves with a chance to go through into the knockout rounds with a win and a German loss. Serbia looked much sharper in edging Germany 1-0 than in blandly stumbling to a 1-0 loss to Ghana. Still, if you're looking for high-scoring soccer, this may not be the game to watch -- both teams have only managed to score a goal apiece through two games. It may be more interesting to see if the Serbians will, for the third straight game, gift their opponents with a penalty kick off a blatantly obvious handball in the box.
Anyhoo, usual rules of game threads apply: no porn, no discussion of piracy; if you can't watch the game on TV, there are legal online streams at ESPN3.com. Beyond that, the topic is verboten.
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Peter Crouch would be a much greater threat if......
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 23, 2010 7:42 AM CDT reply actions
Which would, in turn, make this look even more awkward:
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 23, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions
To think
If we can get a full game out of the squad that showed up in the 2nd half vs. Slovenia…
Man, I wish I would have taken the day off today.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 7:52 AM CDT reply actions
I also wish I had taken the day off.
Watching from gamecast isn’t anywhere near as exciting.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Office doesn't allow for ESPN3
Plus, my productivity would be completely shot if I had a streaming video, as opposed to highlights.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Ditto
I’ll be relying on you folks and Gamecast today.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
US Lineup per Jeremy Schapp
Interesting starting lineup for u.s.: Howard, Bocanegra, Bradley, Cherundolo, Dempsey, Gomez, Donovan, Bornstein, DeMerit, Altidore, Edu
16 minutes ago via UberTwitter
Looks like this
………………….Howard………………….
Cherundulo—-DeMerit—-Bornstein—-Bocanegra
Donovan—-Edu—-Bradley—-Dempsey
-————Gomez—————Altidore———-
Bornstein in the center?
Is this confirmed? I thought they’d move Boca in and put Borny at left back?
I don't know for certain, the article just states that Gooch is being replaced by Bornstein,
and then I just made the formation based on the order that Yahoo listed them here
http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/schedule/united-states-v-algeria-38.html
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
You're right, just found confirmation for Bocanegra to CB and Bornstein at LB
The biggest surprise is in the back, where Oguchi Onyewu moves to the bench, Carlos Bocanegra moves to the middle and Jonathan Bornstein gets the start on the left side.
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
For the record
I have no problem replacing Gooch. I worry about changing the backline, but Gooch has been poor. It’s just that Jonny makes me nervous. He just does.
Looks like Bradley is sacrificing Gooch
In order to get more attacking options from the back and to spread Algeria wide. I would still like to see Gooch in the center to Bocanegra, though…
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Gooch has been playing pretty poorly in the WC
I expected to see him replaced
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
He's also looked pretty gassed.
Maybe a third game in 10-ish days is too much for him right now.
Hopefully Algeria doesn’t have any speedy wingers to exploit Bornstein.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hmmm....
Not that surprising, eh?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Yeah, not to me
I wanted Onyewu to get benched
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
More importantly: Herculez is starting!
IN HERC WE TRUST
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'm completely on board with Gomez at the front.
But am extremely curious as to what happened to Buddle. The kid scores 2 goals in the final friendly before the WC and doesn’t sniff a minute of game time once the tournament rolls around. Edson Buddle is the DJK of the USMNT.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Does that mean Edson ...
has said something to put him on the bench?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Gomez has been practicing better.
Maybe they like the dynamic with Gomez and Altidore better than Buddle and Altidore. I dunno.
It is a little odd, since Buddle actually was doing well in his cameo appearances… but oh well. Maybe Bradley thinks Buddle works best coming on late to go at a tired defense?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Buddle was the first guy off the bench vs England
so he has seen some time.
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Gomez is a goal machine, as of late.
Hopefully he’ll play well enough to usurp the starting spot from Findley in the final 16. /knock on wood.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Silly question...
Anyone know if we’re wearing our white today or if it’s navy again?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That little commentary by Martin Sheen
Was just fucking weird I thought….
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 23, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions
I'm glad our national anthem
isn’t a polka
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 23, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions
exception
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 23, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
The algerian anthem is jaunty
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions
GAH!
Just got called into a meeting! Shit.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 9:00 AM CDT reply actions
"We'd like to speak about something pointless" kinda meeting?
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by EnergizerHawk on Jun 23, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Back
Yep. Work is definitely getting in the way of following sports today…
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
So. Is the back line going to win a ball out of the air sometime today?
Because this is getting pretty fucking ridiculous.
seriously...
we’re looking so tight on defense. and not in a good way.
Life - it's bigger...bigger than you and you are not me.
by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Not that Gooch was playing great or anything
but I’m nervous about losing his height and physicality.
Our backline terrifies me.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Djebbour, their forward, is all over the place...
He scares me, especially as he looks like Imhotep from the Mummy movies.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if the Algergians buy the bleach for their hair as a team or individually or do they have a sponsorship.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
if not a sponsorship...
at LEAST a discount for buying it in bulk at Costco.
Life - it's bigger...bigger than you and you are not me.
by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
You missed Prez. Clinton in the stands.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of
I’ve yet to see the snitch…where is that son of a bitch?
Life - it's bigger...bigger than you and you are not me.
by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if he has any eligibility yet.
Cause that was straight enough, high enough, and long enough.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
That didn't look offsides to me.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Me niether...
but that doesn’t seem to matter when reffing the Yanks…
Life - it's bigger...bigger than you and you are not me.
by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm watching it on my cell phone and it looked clean.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
They did a few replays
showing the plane of offsides and such…
DEFINITELY, without any shadow of a doubt, onside.
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by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Balls!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 9:20 AM CDT reply actions
So... I'm a soccer newbie...
Could somebody explain the “offsides” rule? Is it kinda like American Football where no players can be ahead of the ball when kicking off?
Master of the convoluted IOWA cheers!
As I understand it
You’re “offsides” when the only defensive player in front of you is the keeper.
And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!
or unless the ball was passed before.
Life - it's bigger...bigger than you and you are not me.
by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Or if you're behind a teammate with the ball.
Basically, Dempsey wasn’t offsides because he was even with the last defender that wasn’t the keeper.
What if there are NO defensive players in front of you?
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by EnergizerHawk on Jun 23, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
When a ball is passed to you, there must be two or more defenders in front of you.
One is usually the keeper, but not always (South Africa had this in the first game). And it’s considered when the ball leaves the foot/head/chest of the guy passing the ball, not the one receiving it.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
coached
rec league for many years.
I always explained it to parents as a “a moving blue line in hockey”. While not technically complete, it worked.
Of course, that’s in Minnesota, where it’s against the law to not understand hockey.
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 23, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I was going to say...
How many people asked “And where is the blue line in hockey?” Because I know about three people here in Iowa who understand hockey at all.
The Gram stain is useful in classifying bacteria because....it gives me another reason to hate biology?
When the ball is passed by a teammate, you are offside if you are behind the second-to-last defender (including the keeper; there was one goal earlier this tournament waved off for offside because although there was a defender on the goal line, the keeper had come forward and thus there was only one defender behind him) and ahead of where the ball was played from and taking an active part in the play (a player who is in an offside position but not directly involved in the play is not sufficient to have it blown dead).
This, of course, leads to the linesmen getting it wrong frequently as they have to watch two things happening simultaneously in different parts of the field to determine whether the player passed the second-to-last defender before or after the pass was made (if after, it’s legal).
That could have counted
But we should put multiple goals past this bunch based on the past several minutes.
Fuck!
England is up 1-nil
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
1-0. England
Defoe with the goal. Arrgh.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He makes a great point though.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounded like Gomez was wide open, though.
He needs to finish those better.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
OH NO!
ughhhhh….that should’ve gone in…..GAH
Life - it's bigger...bigger than you and you are not me.
C'mon!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 9:36 AM CDT reply actions
it's the American way
we don’t do anything half-assed
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
F = mass x acceleration
Where F = the amount of points awarded, right?
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by EnergizerHawk on Jun 23, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Man, that Defoe goal for England was pretty soft.
Not a very good effort by the keeper.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Gotta go to work
text me every two seconds. Fuck. This. Game.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 23, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
That blows
…best part about funemployment!
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by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
HT
England 1, Slovenia 0
USA 0, Algeria 0
At least we didn’t concede an early goal.
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thank you
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 23, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Jozy's rocket now available as a "highlight" on the gamecast.
Unreal. Unfortunately, no way to see the offsides call.
Still lost as to what happened in the first half - Gamcast doesn't have a pause to read the comments w/o it going to the top
Please tell me that we didn’t have another goal disallowed…
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Nevermind, just saw a comment come up on Gamecast
Fuck this shit.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
We've been a second-half team so far
Let’s hope the form holds. There are goals out there if anybody can keep their composure for half a second.
Thanks ESPN Stats & Info...
ESPN Stats and Info: The United States has never won at the World Cup when tied at the half. 0-2-3 all-time.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
well
we’re joining the Big 10. the US elected a black president. probably one of the guys that runs this site got laid recently.
All those “all-time” stats can go to hell right now.
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 23, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes...
But Stats and Info also reported soon after that:
Algeria has failed to score a single goal in their last four World Cup matches.
So we’ll see which streak breaks first…
Doesn't matter if that streak doesn't end, though.
If we don’t score (and Slovenia doesn’t equalize with England), we’re done anyway.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
A goal by Slovenia to tie it or a goal by U.S. to win it.
Just so everyone knows.
If England scores another goal, though, unless they lose, or the U.S. wins, England is in over U.S.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Wouldn't it go to coin flip
if England and Slovenia tie 2-2 and the US ties 0-0, I was under the impression that it would be decided by coin flip between US and England.
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that's true.
And this handy little table seems to bear that out.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If you're on Gamecast...
You can see the offside (?) goal by clicking on the Herculez Gomez 20’ Shot on Target highlight.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So who comes on in the 2nd half?
Feilhaber was apparently warming up, per Gamecast, I think.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
offsides
has got to be the toughest call in sports. benefit of the doubt should go to the attacker though right?
The announcers said FIFA has stated that benefit of the doubt should go to the attacker for offsides
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
an exception
for the US, then? :)
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 23, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
expect the same sort of logic against you guys
when you play michigan.
(half kidding)
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by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
i think
that happens this season – last in the Big 12….. should be interesting.
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 23, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
One of the quotes on Gamecast, from Cyphers I believe
Stated that the US might go to three defenders in the second half. No reason not to knowing the ENG/SLO score right now…
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
First we have to get up to two
Demerit has been good, everyone else, bleah
by Brock Sampson on Jun 23, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
If only Yebda didn't have that spiky hair.
Might’ve kept it down.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Radio guys are saying that Algeria is wasting time and seems happy with a draw.
They do know that a draw sends them home too, right? Assholes.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
yeah, they know
but they don’t care. They know they suck.
And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!
time?
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and another miss....
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions
GOD DAMNIT!
that should have been finessed in…ugh!
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I'm no expert
but that kick sucked
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 23, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions
Rooney apparently hits the player of the tourney so far, the post.
Almost 2-0 ENGERLUND
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
AGONY!!!!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
DangIt
If you hit the goalpost in hockey, it’s one thing. When you have like a 100 foot net to shoot at, it’s another.
Michael Bradley and Jozy Altidore are going to be phenomenal.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
U.S. should be winning 3-nil.
oy
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
That ref's yellow card looks like a Post-It Note.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Buddle coming in for Edu.
Let’s go!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Buddle coming on, apparently.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Buddle on, Edu off.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Dempsey back to the midfield should also help provide more opportunities.
He appears to play much better from the wing than the top.
my fuck
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I can't take anymore. I might have to give up and wait until it's over for my disappointment.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
This is gut-wrenching...
I haven’t been this nervous since the Orange Bowl.
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Where's Brandon Wegher to seal the deal?!
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Beasley on, Bornstein off.
C’mon c’mon c’mon
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
so at what fucking point...
do fucking calls go our fucking way?
It’s a lot easier to play defense when you can punch a guy in the face.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions
We're getting into "7 got 6" territory now.
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by RossWB on Jun 23, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I think we're witnessing an Algerian murder/suicide
by fugeeu on Jun 23, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ca you go empty net in soccer?
Says hockey guy
what kind of team...
plays for a draw in a must-win game?
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions
As PatrickKane showed Blackhawks fans
Sometimes you just have to put the puck at the net and something might happe….not sure why he didn’t shoot that
I know it won't matter, but can't the US protest these last 2 games?
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 23, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
;Lqkn'ioqew[ cfohctrohjq34wnbtioh ew'hjwpro j;
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
I'm light headed!
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Your reward
For doubting just moments ago, perhaps? :P
Remember Tate to Holloway?
I about had a stroke when the team got to midfield.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
seriously
??
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Goal Donovan, per Gamecast.
wow
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Nice – thanks for extra time!
Never lose faith brother.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
If I didn't work in a call center I'd be running around screaming.
I’m having a hard time staying in my chair.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I hear that.
I got that same issue here in my office.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Why?
Just curious, but why’d he get the red card. From the replay, it looked like his teammates were arguing, and then he came up to calm them down. Is it because he’s captain?
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET ...
FOR PLAYING FOR A TIE, DICKHEADS!
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions
GAME
USA wins, 1-0!
YES!
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Remember when people thought...
Landon was a choker?
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
USA wins Group C!!!!
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
I believe so. By 1.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Total Goals Scored
we had the same differential as England so it goes to the next tiebreaker
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Unreal
1 goal in extra time is the difference between winning the group and going home
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 23, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
And we win the group too!
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And we win the group!
FUCK YOU SLOVENIA. EAT A BAG OF HERKY DICKS.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
there
are Algerian girls????/
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 23, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I've
never met one…….
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 23, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Well played!
What heart, what smarts, what pateince!
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions
that was incredible.
absolutely incredible.
by Franimal House on Jun 23, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions
I LOVE THIS SHIT
AND I MAY MOVE TO ENGLAND!
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by BoilerTMill on Jun 23, 2010 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I just realized that I forgot to set my DVR.
Anyone able to transfer to DVD and help out this bonehead?
Do you get ESPN Classic?
They re-air the games during the evening. Won’t be HD, though.
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So who would we rather face?
Ghana, Germany or Serbia?
In order...
probably Ghana, Serbia, Germany.
They’re all solid, but I want nothing to do with Das Germans if they make it through.
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Serbia
Serbia = Slovenia, a defensive European team, the World Cup equivalent to a cute little white boy 3-point shooting team in the NCAA Tournament
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
Iowa never made the tourney.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Ghana
They are about as bad of a team as you can hope to see in round of 16, and they don’t have Essien
by Grrranderson on Jun 23, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Ghana
Germany are Germany, and Serbia are big, physical and defensive – a tough out.
Ghana have only scored on penalties and played both games against 10 men.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 23, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
You have changed my mind
Ghana is the anti-United States: the luckiest team in the whole tournament thus far.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
On the other hand, the U.S. only plays Ghana if they beat Germany.
That might change the opinion of them.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Wait, duh. Never mind.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I'll go with......yes.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty damn close.
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It was the final opertunity of the game
Give me #52
by undutchable on Jun 23, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Also notice the green jerseys
of the opponent
Give me #52
by undutchable on Jun 23, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
and we were wearing whites.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Algie, Noooooooo!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 23, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Where's Landon Donovan's "Write the Future" commercial?
I’m sick of those pussies Ronaldo and Rooney.
Wayne Rooney
would be the 4th best player for the United States behind Dempsey, Donovan, and Altidore. I am sick of how hyped that guy is relative to his international performance.
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Ummm.
I’m not sure that I believe that. Rooney may not have any goals in this WC, but he’s definitely the first option at striker if he played for the USMNT
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
he's been mighty flat in this tourney
by Mr. Rosewater on Jun 23, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
No denying that he's yet to have a real impact for the Three Lions
I just wouldn’t consider him behind any of the US strikers.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong
I love all of our guys, especially now, but there is no way in hell that Rooney is the 4th choice for those three.
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by Twin Cities Hawk on Jun 23, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
At the very least
all of those guys are quicker and in far better shape than Rooney. I’ll grant that Rooney is perhaps a more accurate passer and certainly a better ball handler, but those guys are all better athletes, in better shape, and have performed better in the same group.
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Even based purely on form right this very second...
I’m not sure I’d take any of them except Donovan over him. Dempsey and Altidore have been incredibly, absurdly wasteful in front of goal (particularly today). We’ll never know what Rooney would have done with the same sorts of chances that they’ve had, but based on his track record elsewhere, I think he would have scored at least one of them.
They may be more fit than him (likely because they weren’t run ragged by the club teams during the year), but would he have done as little with the quantity (and quality) of chances that they’ve had? I’m still betting on “no.”
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We can agree
that Altidore and Dempsey’s great chances to goals ratios are very high. I think this has been more bad luck than bad play, but yes, for the chances those guys have had, they should each have 1-3 more goals this tournament.
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Unless he gains U.S. citizenship...
and exploits some loophole to join the USMNT.
Then he’s our hero. And his douchness is just flair.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone up top asked about pulling the goalie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hENobUaO2VE
Sevilla’s keeper scoring on a corner kick to stay alive in the UEFA Cup 2007 (which they would win)
Also, Paraguay’s keeper from about 10 years ago used to take a lot of their free kicks and has scored some ridiculous goals.
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Also
USA! USA! USA! USA!
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 23, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I just had 3 F-16s takeoff about 500 feet over my head
That was the icing on the cake.
America, fuck yeah!
by Hank Thrasher on Jun 23, 2010 11:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
The US team reminds me of the 2009 Hawkeyes.
They are not always pretty but exciting and they never give up.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
I can see Stanzi leading this team
buffoonery, tomfoolery, but a late ditch effort for the win
by Mr. Rosewater on Jun 23, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Apropos of this tourney -
I left my office at 8:30 to go to a sports bar because I’m blocked at work. They served me breakfast and appropriately chilled Bass, in my suit and tie. I was many times more productive than I would have been in my office because I talked to other like minded guys around me.
Anywho – Donovan rose to the moment by not hammering that ball and fucking missing. Given the stakes, the stopage time, every around me had given up, they should have already won on the disallowed goal, the ref (not the sideline judge who called the offside) had kept the game honest and wasn’t allowing for much pussifying (and proved it by red carding the Algerian captain for, I think, being a bitch) – while not the hardest goal in the world, it was an incredibly hard goal given the circumstances. I’m no huge fan of the sport but that was outstanding and I’m happy the remainder of my day is shot as a consequence.
I'm not an expert...
But some past USMNT World Cup squads would not have had the heart to stick with it for 90-plus minutes, or would have given up too many set pieces or they would not have had the “rocks” to take big shots.
This group has come so far. It’s so much fun to watch a team grow. We’re getting better at this soccer thing.
From here on out, we’re playing with house money.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 12:24 PM CDT reply actions
One game away from house money
I think that should the USMNT win the next game, they will be playing with house money, but right now, not so much.
The USMNT is currently 14th in the FIFA rankings, and would be higher if not for mediocre performances late in qualifying (when it really didn’t matter that much anymore). Combined with a strong showing at the Confederations Cup (that included a multi-goal win over #2 Spain), this US team is a legit team that could really make some noise.
Should the U.S. make the quarterfinals, I will call this World Cup a success. If the U.S. loses the next game, I won’t call it a failure, the U.S. not only made it out of group play, but won a group that included #8 England. By U.S. standards, that’s never a failure, but it’s not really a success yet, not for this team.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
Good points!
Today’s result doesn’t feel like the ceiling for what the USMNT can accomplish.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends a little on who we draw in the next game, too.
If we draw Ghana and lose that would be much more disappointing than drawing Germany and losing, I’d say.
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did we loose to ghana...
at the last w.c.?
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Germany - U.S.
would be an intriguing matchup. Both teams are talented, and while both (at that point) would have advanced, neither has played up to its potential yet. Germany is certainly the favorite, but the Germans have lost to a side worse than the United States (Serbia), and the U.S. has drawn a team at least on Germany’s level (England).
A loss to Ghana would be a disappointment, but to me, it doesn’t make this WC a failure. I feel the same way about Serbia.
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I dont think a loss at this point to anyone is a failure
just disappointing after the dramatic way we won the group. A win to get to the quarters is a success but I think as of right now, the US team has met the expectations coming in
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Where does today's win stand among US soccer wins?
It’s got to be pretty high up there. Ahead or behind the Spain win last year? I can’t really think of any other games that mean as much as this one right now (then again, I don’t know much about USMNT history). Any thoughts?
Don't know...
but I do think it’s significant that the Spain win and today’s victory came within a year if each other.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
and I don’t think we’ll know for some time. As a soccer country, the U.S. is still building, even though the current team is at least solid. If this leads to a semifinal, it might be the biggest, or at least the biggest in a long time. If the U.S. doesn’t at least make a good showing in the next game, it’s still big, but not nearly so much.
The win is huge only because not winning would’ve meant not advancing out of a fairly pathetic group (Algeria = happy to be there, Slovenia = overly defensive European team, not bad, but not much more than happy to be there, England = the constant World Cup underachiever).
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
It's big because of the context of the World Cup, certainly.
The Spain win came over a much, much, much better side, but it was in a lesser tournament.
Another win that would rank up there is the win over Mexico in the round of 16 in the 2002 World Cup — that put us in the rarefied air of the quarterfinals. The win over Portugal in 2002 was also a big one.
I’d also agree with ck that it will depend a lot on what happens next — if we flame out in the next game, it was a nice, dramatic win to get us out of the group stage, but it didn’t spur us on to anything greater.
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Ghana came to win today.
Algeria take note.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions
Algeria's attitude of settling for the draw to go home
almost cost us the match. It’s no coincidence that the first time Algeria brought numbers into the attack in the second half, we immediately countered and got the winner.
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If fairness,
that guy they had who went booming up the left side on every counter could be a holy terror in the right system.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 23, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Very true
he nearly gave me a heart attack a few times
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Ghana just had a golden chance to take the lead
but good defense in front of the keeper by Germany to stop that shot
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
Scenarios:
Ghana wins US plays Germany?
German wins US plays Ghana?
what happens in a draw?
by Internet Legend on Jun 23, 2010 1:47 PM CDT reply actions
Depends on Serbia
If Serbia wins, they win the group and Ghana is 2nd.
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
They each get a point
and we play Germany, assuming nothing interesting happens in Serbia-Australia
And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!
Sort of.
- GHANA WIN + SERBIA WIN
1) Ghana
2) Serbia
- GHANA WIN + SERBIA LOSS
1) Ghana
2) Australia
- GHANA WIN + SERBIA DRAW
1) Ghana
2) Serbia
- GERMANY WIN + SERBIA WIN
1) Germany
2) Serbia (unless Serbia outscores Germany by 4 goals)
- GERMANY WIN + SERBIA LOSS
1) Germany
2) Ghana (unless the Aussies score a lot of goals)
- GERMANY WIN + SERBIA DRAW
1) Germany
2) Serbia or Ghana (hard to say, since it would depend on how badly Ghana lost)
- GHANA-GERMANY DRAW + SERBIA WIN
1) Serbia
2) Ghana
- GHANA-GERMANY DRAW + SERBIA LOSS
1) Ghana
2) Germany (unless Australia scores a ton)
- GHANA-GERMANY DRAW + SERBIA DRAW
1) Ghana
2) Germany
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Damn you, SB Nation formatting.
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Nice summary still
Thanks Ross
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Scenarios: who the U.S. will play
Germany wins, Serbia wins: Germany
Germany wins, Australia wins, if Germany’s MOV + Australia’s MOV > 5: Australia
Germany wins, Australia wins, if Germany’s MOV + Australia’s MOV = 5: Australia (probably) on goals scored, then coin flip, Australia or Ghana
Germany wins, Australia wins, if Germany’s MOV + Australia’s MOV < 5: Ghana
Germany wins, Serb-Aus draw: Ghana
Ghana wins, Serbia wins: Serbia
Ghana wins, Australia wins: Australia
Ghana wins, Serb-Aus draw: Serbia
Ger-Gha draw, Serbia wins: Ghana
Ger-Gha draw, Australia wins: Germany
Ger-Gha draw, Serb-Aus draw: Serbia
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After reading this, I'm going for Ghana and Australia to win.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That is definitely the ideal scenario.
I’ll take the USA’s chances with the Aussies in a heartbeat.
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Yeah, the 3-1 victory tends to give confidence
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Germany haven't played their best yet
If they start to click, the rest of the world will need to watch out…
Except for the South Americans, who are apparently untouchable this WC
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Germany looked quite good in thumping Australia.
But not so much against Serbia. Still, it’s absolutely true that we’d much prefer to avoid them.
I’d still rank our preferred opponents as Ghana, Serbia, Germany.
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Agreed
Ghana’s difficulty in scoring in non-PK situations puts them above Serbia in my book as well
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as you can avoid getting a handball penalty in the box against Ghana...
you should be alright.
They can’t score any other way in this tourney.
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Goals are certainly at a premium in today's games.
I thought these games would be a bit more high-scoring, to be honest.
But to be fair, it sounds like there were quite a few good saves in many of these games, too.
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HT
0-0 in both games.
If that holds up through the next 45+ minutes, we get ze Germans. (boo)
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UNRELATED
Anyone keeping an eye on the Isner-Mahut match at Wimbledon? It’s gone over NINE HOURS now. The fifth set is tied up 53-53. Seriously.
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I gave up at 41-41.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Longest match in history
About an hour ago the announcers said something like 20 matches have started and been completed in the time that the LAST SET of this match was going. Its got to be more than 20 now, which is just nuts
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit, I could fit my entire workday AND commute in the length of that match.
Ridamndiculous.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I had to explain the scoring rules to the wife while on lunch.
She immediately quit watching ESPN. Apparently she’s not a fan of tennis…
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe Wimbledon is the only tournament where you can get an insane score like that.
Since they don’t have fifth-set tiebreakers.
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I'll admit to knowing very little about tennis.
Only enough to help her understand why we were seeing a game total of 39-39. I had no idea that Wimbeldon was missing a rule that could prevent this situation. I’m not surprised.
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Australian and French Opens as well
US Open is the only Grand Slam event to use the 5th-set tiebreak. Roddick had a 21-19 5th set a few years back at the Aussie.
Play suspended at 59-59
holy cow…
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by hawkeyeguy85 on Jun 23, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
So far in this game
Ghana is looking pretty good. Germany has had better chances but Ghana has been getting a few solid looks as well. I won’t be surprised to see a 0-0 draw out of this one.
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Australia has the ugliest uniforms. Disgustingly gross.
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GOAL!
Ze Germans finally score. Up 1-0 now.
Still 0-0 in the Serbs-Aussie game.
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GOAL!
The Aussies score. Up 1-0 now.
Ghana’s still 2nd in the group, since the Aussies have an ugly -3 GD.
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2-0 now.
They’re on their way. They need 4 to wash the GD, no?
by The Mexican't on Jun 23, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
They need two more.
Or they need ze Germans to pour it on.
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Both extremely unlikely
Looking like we are playing Ghana with Germany winning the group in all probability
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, probably not gonna happen.
I wouldn’t have guessed the Aussies would go up 2-0 on Serbia, either, though.
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True
look at what Portugal did in the final 10 minutes to the Flying Kim Jong-Il’s too…
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It would get really interesting if the Germans could pump in another goal.
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Serbia just put that dream to bed
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Aussies playing inspired right now
still not going to be enough to erase that horrific GD
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One more goal for Serbia and we get them instead of Ghana.
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So its going to be USA vs Ghana on Saturday in the Round of 16
And England vs Germany
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FT!
Germany 1, Ghana 0
Australia 2, Serbia 1
So Germany wins the group and Ghana comes in second.
Saturday, 1:30pm CT: USA v. Ghana (ABC)
Sunday, 9:00am CT: Germany v. England (ESPN)
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At least we get to see a couple high ranking teams try to take each other out.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
What a nice draw.
Winner of USA/GHA gets winner of Uruguay/South Korea.
On the other hand, winner of ENG/GER gets the winner of Argentina/Mexico.
Uruguay’s been one of the surprises of the tourney, but I think I’d take my chances with them as opposed to Germany and (likely) Argentina.
So huge that we were able to win the group.
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Uruguay has been a big surprise and has looked like one of the best teams of the tourney so far
I would much rather play them if we get by Ghana than, in all probability, Argentina. After seeing the round robin matches, Argentina and Brazil look the strongest, with Uruguay third IMO
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
It’s almost comforting knowing that a number of the “big boys” will have to go through each other to even make the quarterfinals let alone the semifinals.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 23, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and an amusing stat about the performance of the US so far in this WC:
Per Grant Wahl’s Twitter:
#USA United States set new World Cup record by winning a group with fewest total minutes in the lead: 2. (Old record: 21 by #NED Netherlands ’94) via @2010MisterChip
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Very amusing
I think that speaks to the resiliency of the USMNT. They don’t give up, no matter how long the odds are
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 23, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Very nice draw
Not making the semifinals would almost be a disappointment (and I only say “almost” because we’re still talking about the United States, and making the quarterfinals is good regardless). The U.S. will be favored in the next two matches. Current world rankings:
- USA
- Uruguay
- Ghana
- South Korea
I’ve said before that the United States is underrated due to some poor performances late in qualifying due to a lack of having anything to play for. Ghana has to be the least deserving team to advance, and South Korea is playing with house money at this point.
While Uruguay has been the anti-France of the tournament thus far; completely exceeding expectations, they only managed a draw against a hapless French side and got dominated in time of possession in a 1-0 win over a good-but-not-great Mexico team. If they play well and the U.S. doesn’t, they could win, but needless to say, I ain’t scurred.
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format fail
well, I posted the correct rankings, but SBN doesn’t like them. Here they are again:
USA – 14
Uruguay – 16
Ghana – 32
South Korea – 47
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