WORLD CUP OPEN THREAD, DAY 8: Who Hates Slovenia? We Hates Slovenia!
by RossWB on Jun 18, 2010 6:30 AM CDT
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6:30 A.M. (ESPN): Germany vs. Serbia, in Group D. Germany had one of the finest performances of the first round of games, while Serbia had one of the poorest. That said, Serbia has talent and should be better, on both the attack and in defense, than the toothless Australia side that Germany battered. Serbia will also be desperate to get a result, since a loss could see them eliminated. On the other hand, Germany looked absolutely wunderbar in their debut here -- hard to bet against them.
9 A.M. (ESPN): United States vs. Slovenia, in Group C. It may not be a "must win game" in the truest sense of the word (a draw would still leave the U.S. in a manageable spot, although they'd need to beat Algeria and hope England knocked off Slovenia in the final group stage games), but let's be honest: anything less than a win would be a pretty big disappointment. With three points from their opening win over Algeria, Slovenia has the ability to sit back, defend, and play for a draw, so it will be incumbent on the U.S. to get forward and break them down -- something they've struggled to do in past World Cups.
1:30 P.M. (ESPN): England vs. Algeria, in Group C. Algeria was godawful in their first game. England threatened but couldn't get much past Timmy Howard. Algeria doesn't have Timmy Howard in goal. Uh-oh. There have been odd results at this World Cup -- Switzerland beating Spain, North Korea holding Brazil in check for nearly 2/3 of the match -- but those surprise teams had the advantage of rock-solid defending and incredible discipline and organization. You probably won't hear those words used to describe Algeria much.
Anyhoo, usual rules of game threads apply: no porn, no discussion of piracy; if you can't watch the game on TV, there are legal online streams at ESPN3.com. Beyond that, the topic is verboten. BONUS QUESTION: Give your score predictions and man of the match guesses for USA-Slovenia.
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Today is going to be full of goals.
England should get 3 from Algeria and Germany hasn’t showed much trouble putting the ball in the net. I think we may see 10 goals today. Could be an exciting day for the casual fan. I still think the US wins 3-0 (Buddle, Dempsey, Altidore). Although Robert “DERP” Green will likely sit on the bench today, I think David James may allow a soft goal while shaking the rust. 3-1 England.
Actually, a draw leaves us still in control of our own destiny
Beat Algeria by two after that and we’re in. Let’s assume England beats Algeria. In that case they’re tied with Slovenia at 4 and we have 2. If we win and England-Slovenia is not a draw, we’re ahead of the loser with 5 points to their 4. If they do draw, we’ll be ahead of Slovenia (and, depending on how badly England beats Algeria, possibly England too) on goal difference and we’ll still advance. We could still advance with a one-goal win if Slovenia and England don’t draw, or if we beat Slovenia on goals scored.
So much rides on the first goal. Slovenia’s goal difference was respectable in qualifying but before the playoff their top three competitors were Slovakia, Czech Republic, and Northern Ireland. When you have Northern Ireland and two worse teams in your group, you damn well better rack up some goals. We have the talent to chase and maybe get it level if we fall behind, but Slovenia does not – and since a loss for them is disastrous (likely means they must beat England), they have to try. That could leave their normally solid defense vulnerable.
Germany 2-0 Serbia
USA 3-0 Slovenia; Dempsey man of the match
England 4-0 Algeria
Ah, thanks. That's what I get for trying to work through the scenarios in the middle of the night.
I think I’d still rather not chance that, though — much better to win today.
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PORTUGAL/NETHERLANDS II
Booking madness!
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Good grief
Six already? This hasn’t been a dirty match at all. At least in Portugal-Netherlands 3/4 of the cards were deserved.
Probably half of these have been
Unfortunately, neither of Klose’s were.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
Serbia didn’t need long to take advantage of the extra man.
That was fast indeed.
These Serbian jerseys look more appropriate for Switzerland… it’s kinda throwing me off.
Also: this is the Serbian side that looks more like the dark horse team to get out of this group.
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Who does Germany get in the final game?
Missing Klose won’t make things any easier, but maybe it’ll be nice to get him rested before the knockout stage.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Ghana
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions
As noted, Ghana.
They got their easiest match at the start in the Aussies. If they can’t claw back and get a result today, there’s going to be a lot riding on that Germany-Ghana game.
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Thank you, sirs.
I’d completely forgotten and assumed it’d be easier to ask then look up the answer myself.
I thought they may be able to handle a loss here, but 0 points today could be extremely detrimental to their chances of escaping the group stage. Exciting stuff in Group D.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions
They should be OK
They are carrying a huge GD from the Australia match, so 3 points against Ghana should still win the group.
Emphasis there is on the word should, however.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Are 3 points likely against Ghaha w/o Klose, though?
Losing the most sure goal scorer in recent WC history has to be a detriment to any team (11 goals in the last 3 WC’s, I believe). Can Podolski and Schweinsteiger make up for his absence?
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions
The way Podolski is finishing right now?
Hell no.
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I think so
There were questions before WC about whether Klose would even be the first choice striker.
Podolski can play up top, slot Schweinsteiger out wide, and slot a MF in Schweinsteiger’s spot.
Or they could play Ozil up top, where he players for Werder (albeit with support)
I think they have lots of options, and certainly wont be wanting for scoring chances against Ghana.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh and I should answer my own question...
I’m going to stick with my 2-1 score.
I’ll say Landon Donovan for man of the match; this is match where he absolutely must come up huge, and I think he will.
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Well, that was quite the flurry
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He seems rather card-happy.
I guess the good news for Germany is that it’s quite likely that he could end up sending off a Serbian guy in the second half and evening things up again.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This.
I think it may get a bit chippy today. Hopefully the official let’s them play.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions
UNRELATED TANGENT
I never would have guessed he’d get busted for speeding after he couldn’t have track down a gimpy-ankled Stanzi in the OB.
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Been watching on Univision
(Because when you’re half asleep, nothing restores you to consciousness like hearing GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!)
On ESPN’s online gamecast, the commentator has been tearing the ref a new asshole. Are the TV commentators on ESPN equally appalled?
Pretty much, yeah
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Huh, I think ESPN has the audio of the vuvuzelas mixed lower than Univision.
They don’t sound quite as loud on the WWL.
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ESPN has started filtering them
Univision is not.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Commentators are mixed louder, actually
On my TV the vuvuzelas are about the same volume on both when I change channels, but the commentary is significantly louder on ESPN.
/flips channels
Yeah, that sounds about right
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, maybe that's it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Although, FWIW
Martinez (the Spanish studio analyst) and Sid Lowe (who covers La Liga for the Guardian) both more or less pointed out that referees in Spain always have a quicker trigger.
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On the twitters, someone said this ref gave out 11 red cards in 17 games in La Liga last year.
So, yeah: very card-happy.
Sooo glad he’s not doing the USA game. We might be down to 8-9 men by the end.
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Penalty
And a booking for Vidic.
No idea how Vidic made it 59 minutes before getting booked
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And it got saved.
Wow.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Second straight game where Serbia gives up a PK on a handball in the box.
Wacky.
Poorly taken penalty by Podolski. Is Klose the regular penalty-taker?
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No idea
Germany didn’t have a (successful, at least) PK in 2006, and Klose didn’t participate in their quarterfinal shootout (though that ended after only four rounds, maybe he would have been their fifth).
I'd imagine it's either Klose or Ballack.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, it probably was Ballack -- good call.
I still feel like it was probably meant to be Klose at this WC.
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I agree.
With Ballack out, it was probably Klose.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Apparently every Serbian defender is on a yellow card now.
If I was Germany, I’d be doing everything I could to get a second yellow on one of them.
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USA lineup out...
Howard; Cherundolo, DeMerit, Onyewu, Bocanegra; Dempsey, Bradley, Torres, Donovan; Altidore, Findley.
So Clark off and Torres on… nice. Buddle will have to work his magic as a super-sub, I guess.
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Still shocked.
I don’t understand the starting of Findley. His pace is far less valuable at the start of the game, and he’s not a known goal threat.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Cacau's diving
could come in handy here.
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Think he got booked for it
late against Australia. Although this ref seems more inclined to show a card for looking at the attacker funny than for diving.
That yellow against Australia
was Gilardino-level great.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Gilardino dive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W00d3yJKl4
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Oh noes! The invisible sniper strikes again!
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25 fouls.
That also seems a bit high. Seems like he may hold the whistle in his mouth throughout the game. No ring whistle for this official.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Badstuber is another very awesome German name.
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"These aren't the North Koreans you're looking for..."
Four North Korean players have apparently disappeared in South Africa.
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After that story in their last game
about the guy who plays in Japan wowing all his teammates by showing them a mobile phone . . . . . . I’m not surprised.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
The only good thing about potentially drawing Germany in the next round...
is that they may be missing a few guys on suspension by then with all the yellows they’re picking up.
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Slightly OT: Wearing the 1950's throwback t-shirt jersey from @twoeightnine today.
Also wore it under the tux during my wedding on Saturday. Everyone loved seeing the USA badge under my shirt during the reception. This may even become my football game day shirt in honor or Stanzi’s patriotism.
I felt the need to share it’s awesomeness
Congratulations – and many happy returns. If you’re watching soccer and blogging on your honeymoon you’re married to the most awesome woman, ever.
Delayed the honeymoon with hopes of attending UFC 116.
Still praying we can scrape together tickets.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
The Brock/Carwin show?
Good luck, man — that’d be a fun show to attend, I think.
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Yeah.
By the time I logged into TicketMaster tickets were $1000 each.
Luckily I know a few Zuffa employees and may be able to weasel my way into the show by begging and asking for a wedding gift. Fingers crossed.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Ghana vs. the Aussies tomorrow
Too bad the Aussies lost Cahill, otherwise they’d have a real shot and Group D would have 3’s across the board.
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I don't think an Aussie upset is unrealistic.
Losing Cahill hurts, but not a deal breaker.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Decision-making on that pass left something to be desired
I know, let’s try to pass it through three defenders and hope the ball quantum-tunnels through them!
Wow, was that a blown call
Foul called on the German player who got speared by the Serb’s cleats. Would have been a soft penalty, perhaps, given that it was a legitimate attempt at a clear.
And that’s it.
If Ghana manages 3 points today, they'll be a mortal lock to get thru.
And will likely win the group. Hell, even the Socceroos have a shot, now. Incredible.
I think Ghana would have been better with Serbia losing
Obviously better odds to win the group with Germany losing – but I still like Germany to beat Ghana, and now if that happens and Serbia beats Australia – Ghana could be going home.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
How annoying is it going to be
when the US wins their group but still draws Germany?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 8:25 AM CDT reply actions
How epic will it be
if US gets second in their group and draws Serbia
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty epic
if only to see the England/Germany match. ESPN showed a potential route to the finals for the US awhile back that would be ridiculously easy. It was somewhat plausible too.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
They may not get Germany at all
If Ghana beats Australia and draws Germany, a Serbian win over Australia eliminates Germany. Ghana would only have to play for a draw with Germany to ensure advancement too.
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Yeah, I know
I’m just a very pessimistic person. Basically since the pools were drawn I’ve assumed the US will get Germany in the next round (no matter what we do) and there will be a handball in the box that isn’t called, and I’ll hate life for a month or two.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
We owe ghana for hte last world cup
Let’s play them.
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I don't have ESPN3 at work. Goddamn it.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Gamecast is actually pretty good.
They’ve got video re-caps of important moments. It’s much better than any other gamecast they’ve offered in the past.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
My productivity is already shot to hell, so the overlords blocking the video on gamecast is just frustrating
Agreed
My company got WebSense all ramped up just in time for the world cup.
I will punish them by not showing up to work today until 10
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Write the Future commercial
anyone else thing that Homer Simpson is about the only player Ronaldo could score against in this World Cup?
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Alexis Lalas went straightedge
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 8:44 AM CDT reply actions
Jeremy Schapp
looks like a baller with those headphones.
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Over/under
on the number of minutes before the US fan dressed as an astronaut dies from heat exhaustion?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 8:47 AM CDT reply actions
Higher than the number of minutes
before I’d get in a fight with the guy at the Chicago bar in an England shirt eating cheetos.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering some of the coaches are wearing parkas
I’m going to have to agree with you.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
There is nothing quite so boring
As listening to another country’s national anthem
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions
It does make me think about how awesome our National Anthem is though
Too bad they don’t fire off real cannons at the end of it, or have an F-16 squadron flyover
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Jun 18, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
yes, ours rules
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm of the opinion
That every time our anthem is played that there should be a flyover.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
And possibly a trained bald eagle released to fly overhead during the singing of it.
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Jun 18, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
and then peck the eyes out of the opposing mascot
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Just make up your own lyrics
That’s why I miss the Soviet anthem
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Clint Dempsey is taking a page out of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Jun 18, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions
Whew
a yellow in under a minute would have been bad
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions
Luckily we don't have the ref from the Germany-Serbia game.
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Definitely.
From the sounds of things, Dempsey likely would have been gone
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
FUCK
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 18, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions
Amazed it hadn't happened already.
The US defense hasn’t marked, spaced well or reacted with any degree of urgency so far. They seem completely unable to operate from a position of strength.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Fuck.
Yet ANOTHER early goal conceded. This story is getting old.
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I was hoping they would be playing more slovenly than they are right now
fuck
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 18, 2010 9:15 AM CDT reply actions
We look so fucking slow and lethargic.
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There isn't a single US defender
that seems to be able to keep up right now.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Finley is completely out of his element here.
I’d go for an early sub.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Birsa is a fucking terror for Slovenia.
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Fucking Ohio.
Is it good for anything? (No.)
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Irritating Michigan?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Finally watched the replay of the goal.
And it appears that Gooch may have been the defender at fault. Awful marking. Incredible.
Plenty of blame to go around on that one, I think.
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Entire team.
No one is reacting at any speed whatsoever.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Ugh, don't mention Charlie Davies.
How nice would he be right now?
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Would Bradley even play him?
He did start Findley up top, after all. Gomez and Buddle are in better form at the moment, but likely won’t see any PT until halftime, at best.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course he'd play a healthy Davies.
Altidore-Davies was certainly the first-choice partnership up front.
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Absolutely.
But I’d LOVE to see Gomez ASAP.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. Him or Buddle.
I’m not that picky.
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Or both.
I love Dempsey’s creativity but hate his tendency to disappear for 80 min.+
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't imagine that Dempsey will come out.
He always finds a way to score that ever important clutch goal. Gomez or Buddle must come in by halftime, though.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Bradley needs a change soon.
The US needs to change the complexion of this match before the half.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Of course the US fan is texting
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions
"Man all thez bees r killin my buzz, bro!"
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That was lovely.
Why hasn’t he taken more free kicks?
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Alright.
Hopefully that sequence wake our boys up; first good stuff we’ve seen.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
I love the magic spray.
They need to market that shit.
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+1, sadly.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The ref just help our cause;
Findley now out for the next game.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
So is everyone after today
at least in pool play
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Ian Darke: "An absolutely ridiculous decision."
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"One of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen"
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Won't complain
Now Bradley has to start a striker who can actually find the goal without the aid of a map, compass, and GPS unit.
Freakin' Findley!
Shoot the ball, Lucy!!!!
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Good attacks lately, but --
FUCK.
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for fucks sake
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions
Fucking lazy defending.
So much space.
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Too bad it's not friendly rules;
I’d love to swap out 6 players at half.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Yeah, no confidence in this side's ability to score
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
And now Slovenia's gonna bunker in something fierce.
Fuckity fuck fuck.
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USA plays like Randy Moss
They sort of trot around for a half hour and don’t really try but then come alive when there’s a chance they think they might score.
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by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 18, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions
Harkes: "US finds themselves in a bit of a hole right now."
Thanks, John!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The defending is mind-blowing in its badness right now.
The Torres giveaway was hideous.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
2nd half lineup I'd like to see:
Tab Ramos, Cobi Jones and Marcelo Balboa.
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In their current state.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
If Robbie Findley starts the 2nd half I'm throwing my CPU against the wall.
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Seriously
He might want to take off his skirt when he gets the ball int he box.
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Saved by the whistle.
This side looks shattered.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The leadership stinks.
Bocanegra’s wearing the captain’s armband but isn’t playing with any fire or direction, Bob Bradley looks like he’s out of ideas and Donovan refuses to get vocal with his young forwards. Gomez or Buddle better make appearances quickly.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Wayne Rooney wonders where this US defense was a week ago.
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He never saw the back line
He was way deep in midfield trying to find the ball, since they give him no service up top.
by Brock Sampson on Jun 18, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Er, great minds, etc.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You wasted time
searching for that pic.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I like to utilize visual aids.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You have visual AIDS?!?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
And he's spreading it without remorse.
Someone call the feds.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry, it's the Magic Johnson kind.
All that happens is that I get fat and gregarious and unable to make coherent arguments.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So you've had this for quite awhile then . . . . . .
zing?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
My secret shame!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
There's only one man who can save them now:
“Help us, Ricky-wan! You’re our only hope!”
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
"It's a great day to be a former Yugoslavian Republic..."
Mike Tirico just uttered a phrase that I’m not sure many people will ever agree with.
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Feilhaber and Edu (or Buddle) warming up.
Who does Feilhaber replace? I’m going to assume the other is Buddle, but can’t imagine Bradley coming off. Is Bob going to remove Bocanegra or Torres?
Can he get a two-for-one Latino replacement?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm completely boggled.
I don’t think the midfield is playing spectacularly, but I also cannot imagine any of them cominig off at half time.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Aww, the big steaming pile of USA fail broke the twitters.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Everyone start drinking Jack Daniels right now
If it works for the Hawks, it has to work for the US too.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 18, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
Torres and Findley out
good, good.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions
SUBS
Feilharber and Edu on, Findley and Torres off.
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AWESOME GOAL
amazing Donovan
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
GOOOOOOAAAALLLL!!!!
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Jokic is playing too well for a man named Jokic
Just think of the comedic possibilities he is robbing us of.
YESSSSSSS
Their keeper just got used
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 18, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions
Aw, fuck!
I go outside to do a little yardwork and miss a goal?
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LANDON!
That was a great goal.
Shitty help from anyone coming forward, though.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
MAGIC SPRAY!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
How many close calls can the US miss in this tourney?
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ESPN 3 stops
literally every time something big is happening.
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Not sure how Koren got that wide open a minute ago.
He’s their best player.
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I don't know if it was the subs
or confidence, or getting a rest, but we look like a completely different team right now
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 18, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions
Dempsey is the ONE player
who I want to be selfish. He needs to create instead of trying to thread it through.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Nice acting job by Krim.
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The Euro footballer in tears after the slightest touch
One of our most cherished stereotypes.
by Brock Sampson on Jun 18, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Southern Euro.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
What did we ever do to Mali?
This ref fucking hates us.
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What is Gooch doing?
No long balls, the US is controlling tempo.
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I think Bob Bradley's got to roll the dice
and make his final sub now. Gomez needs to see the pitch soon.
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JOZY!
Arrgh
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Holy shit, I'm not kidding
ESPN 3 freezes right before every shot.
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Very fortunate there
US defense was totally disorganized.
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US has to press the issue now
too many Slovenians with YC’s not to.,
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Edu isn't doing much for me.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Tricksy shot by Feilhaber there.
Interesting.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Nice flick from Benny
just good goalkeeping awaerness.
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Um, Bradley, that last sub?
Let’s be using it, yeah?
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I think he's under the impression that it'll roll over.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Was he talking to fucking Domenench?!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
IN HERC WE TRUST
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
GOOOOOOAAAALLLL!!!!
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TIED!!!
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 18, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
YES!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Don't you dare let up you Yanks!
This game is ripe for the taking. Run right at these fuckers and watch them card-out.
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Awesome. Absolutely awesome.
Sounds like this was the best game of the WC, so far. Cannot wait to watch on the DVR later tonight.
I'd suggest skipping the first 45.
Unless you’re a masochist or something.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably a good idea.
This reminds me of the ’06 (?) Champions League final. Watching Liverpool come back from 3-0 at half put me over the moon.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
So apparently the way to beat this keeper
is to go directly over his head.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
I'm OK with the US dropping back
but they still need to play the ball. Waaaay too much space between defenders and their marks.
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He's been studying Drogs.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
FUCK
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Oh fuck that so very much
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 18, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions
Didi we just have this one stolen from us?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions
FUCK YOU, REF
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Is this a real botched call?
Or more of the “we don’t know the rules” variety?
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure seemed like the former.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
His floppy hair prevented that header from being any good
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
A ref stealing 2 points from this team after this second half is terrible.
On par with the non-call German handball in ’02?
Nearly every US player
was being held on that play and there was clearly no offsides. I can’t imagine what the referee saw that compelled him to disallow the goal.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
That call brings to mind olympic skating judges
It sure looks like someone earned his money today.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
I seriously don't understand why that goal was disallowed.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Bob Bradley saying no one has any idea.
I really don’t like that. I think players need to have a definitive call of what they did wrong. That’s horseshit.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
If England takes care of business the next two games...
And America beats Algeria, we’re OK.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
What's the score right now?
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 18, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions
you're telling me
that this dude ran his mouth without even playing?
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What a bitch.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Don't know that officiating gets much worse.
He couldn’t even end the game with authority.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
I should be thankful
but this was a 3-2 win stolen from the States.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Apostrophes
can be called “inverted commas”? I don’t think I’ve ever heard that before, but I’m definitely going to use it from now on.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions
well, beat Algeria and we're probably through
Slovenia has 4, US 2. Even if England wins they only have four. As long as we beat Algeria by 2 goals we’ll be safe because Slovenia is +1 on goal differential. if they tie england they’d have five, England would have five, and the US would have five (assuming the US and England beat Algeria. If either Slovenia or England beats the other the loser would have, at most, four points. A US win gives them five, and we’re through.
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Annoying as the ref was...
We need to play like we did in the 2nd half for an ENTIRE GAME.
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This team isn't happy with a lead.
They refuse to play until they’re down. Which team that we all like does that remind us of?
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
The Buffalo Bills?
Oh, wait . . . . . . no, I don’t like them.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I wrote this for a piece comparing B10 teams to World Cup teams.
I ultimately scrapped it for lack of time/ambition/ability to finish it well, but this part still feels right:
IOWA is… the United States.
What, like we could be anything else with the Ameristanzi at the helm? With the nation’s greatest patriot leading the way, Iowa football may wear black and gold, but it bleeds red, white, and blue. But there’s more to it than just the obvious Stanzi tie-in — stylistically, Iowa and US soccer bear more than a passing resemblance to one another. Aside from the free-scoring 2002 outfit, Iowa football under Kirk Ferentz has been built around Norm Parker’s defenses. Success comes from stingy defenses built around players that aren’t always the most talented, but will work harder, smarter, and tougher than anyone else. Similarly, US soccer’s success has come not from having a bevy of solid attacking options, but from a scrappy, hustling defense that keeps scores low. US soccer’s most successful exports in recent years have been goalkeepers — three American goalkeepers started for teams in the English Premier League, one of the top leagues in the world. And from the eerie coincidence department, Iowa’s results in recent years have often mirrored the results of the US national team in big international tournaments. After the US made a shocking run to the World Cup quarterfinals in the summer of 2002, Iowa football made its own stunning run to an 11-win season. In 2006, after the US crashed out of the World Cup in the first round, Iowa stumbled to a 6-7 season. And last year, after the US made an improbable run to the finals of the Confederations Cup, Iowa made its own incredible run to an 11-win season. Alas, both teams even found themselves unable to topple an established giant (Brazil for US soccer and Ohio State for Iowa football) to complete their amazing runs.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He's going through
goatee withdrawal.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly RossWB,
Why can’t we play with that sense of urgency from the start?
by Franimal House on Jun 18, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions
I don't remember a 2nd yellow.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
First yellow was in the england game
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by BoilerTMill on Jun 18, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
You mean not the one before...
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Nah, Dick Bevetta or Bennett Salvatore
Those two make Hightower look competent
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by BoilerTMill on Jun 18, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
The US team needs an Bob Sanders or Adrian Clayborn on defense.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
They have one.
Gooch just can’t do it by himself. Cherundalo was as bad this game as he was good in the first one.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
It also doesn't help that the offense was so clueless in the first half.
Dempsey needs to play and entire game, Demeritt took way too long to find himself and Findley has shown himself to be in way over his head. Gomez had better get the start against Algeria. They need to come out and play aggressively from the get-go. A team like Algeria can be had if they get down early.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
The entire team was hopeless in the first half.
But I thought they pretty much all played much better in the second. Landon finally seemed to step up and lead.
But baffling stuff in that first half.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Donovan just said that
the ref wouldn’t tell anyone why the goal was disallowed. I can’t think of any sport where that type of referee behavior would be acceptable.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 11:09 AM CDT reply actions
I concur. It's ridiculous.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
England needs to beat Slovenia and US needs to beat someone, preferrably Algeria and not themselves.
Even if it should be 7-7-2-0 in the points finish, I’ll take 7-5-4-0. I’d rather they win the Group and take on Ghana or Serbia, but I like them against Germany, too. Although, after the loss today, who knows what’s up.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I can't really see how the next game (England-Algeria) affects the U.S.'s chances negatively.
If England beats Slovenia and U.S. beats Algeria, U.S. is in. Trying to run through all of the various scenarios in my head, it only seems like a negative outcome this afternoon positive influences the U.S.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
The England-Algeria game cannot eliminate the US
But it can make things interesting. An Algeria win is huge for the Group and would make things slightly easier for the US. If Algeria can beat England, we can draw with Algeria (and Slovenia draws or beats England) we can get thru with a simple draw against Algeria.
Obviously that’s asking for a lot from the other teams in the group. The only good thing to come away from the 2-2 tie is that the US still controls their fate. A win on Wednesday should all but assure that the USMNT gets thru.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
when and where
is the riot? Dammit. Can’t US fans riot?
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
Twitter!
cornnation@gmail.com
Only in LA.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Does anyone have any idea on what the goal was disallowed for?
Everywhere I look they talk about it but they don’t talk about what the actual infraction was…? Does anyone even know?
Brunettes not fighter jets
I don't think the ref even knows.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 18, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It was called a US penalty
and the whistle came very early in the play. Of course the replays don’t show any foul during that time period and the ref never told anybody who it was on.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the call was offside
but I don’t see any offside there. Edu sure as shit wasn’t.
by telepathetic on Jun 18, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly think the ref regretted giving the US the free kick
so he decided to blow the whistle right after the ball was kicked no matter what, assuming there would be some contact that could feasibly be considered a foul. That way he wouldn’t be rewarding a dive with a goal. But it backfired on him when there was nothing remotely close to a foul when he blew his whistle.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Spencer Hall says it best:
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/6/18/1524753/usa-vs-slovenia-world-cup-disgrace
A great read that includes the term, “a crapulent fiction.” Few invented words have captured the essence of a bad ref call as effectively as that.
You know who is probably most pissed about this World Cup
Ireland, especially since France essentially decided not to show up after that mess in qualifying.
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At least the Irish are always gutty.
The French looked bored
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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It's called ennui
So basically the French looked French.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I say again
France just pisses me off
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Is Algeria the capital
of failed haircuts?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions
Yes,
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Thanks for doing the leg-work, Ross.
A couple of their guys always remind me of the midish-90s, when bleached hair was a fad in small town Iowa for some reason.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I would never impugn Kevin Kasper.
The Algerian keeper had a horrible haircut to go along with the hideous dye job.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
England's start to this game sounds about as good as America's start this morning.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I haven't been a big follower of soccer since I got out college in '95,
but I take it we want Algeria to either beat or tie England?
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by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 18, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That would make things quite a clusterfuck in Group C.
And give Algeria more than just pride to play for against us.
I can’t really decide what result in this game is the best or the worst for the US, frankly. The US’s hopes for advancing to the next round effectively begin and end with beating Algeria next Wednesday. There are other important factors, too, but the US really really really needs to beat Algeria for them to come into play.
(And, yes, there are wacky possibilities to consider if we draw with Algeria, too, but let’s hold off on those until at least the finish of this game.)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, I don't think it really matters what this game happens.
If the United States wins next week, they’re in.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
From what I've tried to figure out, they can't not get in if they win and end with five points.
Slovenia wins next week, they have 7, England 4, Algeria 0.
England wins next week, they have they have 4, 5 or 7, Slovenia has 4, Algeria has 0, 1, 3.
If they draw, England with 2, 3, 5, Slovenia 5, Algeria 1.
I guess that last one is it. If England wins tonight and draw against Slovenia, then it will be a 3-way tie with the decider being Goal differential against Algeria. That might actually be the most likely scenario, now that I think about it. Damn.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
If GD against Algeria is the winner
Then the US need only beat Algeria by 2, or more, goals
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Only...
that’s optimistic.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, the "only" is a bit optimistic, yes.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to sound...
like an England fan.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
0-0 at HT.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
We could take our frustrations out on Solvenian-Americans...
but that would mean traveling to Cleveland. So, no.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
Yellow card for Carragher, meaning he's out for the Slovenia game.
And England’s down to a third-choice centerback in that game. And the third different CB to start alongside John Terry, for that matter.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Apparently...
the rivalry between England and France even applies to the category of “least successful 2010 World Cup team.”
I slept in today, and misse the US game, and tune in to watch this abomination of English football? Oh, and why does anybody think Wayne Rooney is good?
At least England found a competent keeper, though.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
Rooney is coming off an unreal season in the EPL.
Scored 26 goals. He was in top form coming into the tournament, but it hasn’t shown.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
>sigh<
I slept in today, and misse the US game, and tune in to watch this abomination of English football? Oh, and why does anybody think Wayne Rooney is good?
Please stop being such an ignorant retard.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
TO CLARIFY
Oh, and why does anybody think Wayne Rooney is good?
This is ignorant. He’s had two poor games; that does not make him a poor player. He was utterly exceptional this year in the English Premier League, arguably the toughest soccer league in the world. That’s why people think he’s “good.”
He would walk into the starting line-up of any national team in the world — save perhaps Argentina. I like Jozy and Edson and Herc and Charlie (when healthy), but I’d take Rooney in a heartbeat over any of our guys.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You gonna do up a Game 3 preview?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Not until I wrap my head around this crazy group.
Anyone who had Slovenia leading after two games is a filthy liar.
And, anyway, on-paper breakdowns are proving to be incredibly useless at this World Cup. England should have beaten the pants off Algeria; instead it was all they could do to wheeze to a 0-0 draw. On paper, the US should beat Algeria. But that whole on paper v. in reality distinction has been something else so far this WC.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Don't know nearly enough about the sport...
to offer anything other than smartassery, but I’m starting to wonder if Gooch is a liability at this point. He looks fit but seems to be in the middle of every bad defensive play.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he's 100%
He’s in decent shape and can keep up, but his knee isn’t ready. He’s also rusty and far from top form. It’s incredibly unfortunate.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Just go to YouTube
and do a search for “Wayne Rooney goals”
That may help clarify why people think he is good…
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jun 18, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously, I am exaggerating.
But, if you are a great player, shouldn’t you be able to make some things happen. Maybe not several goals, but I don’t really even see Rooney getting “open” more than once or twice per game.
And yes, he might start for any team in the world, but they have a squad where they might have three to five of those dudes. I don’t necessarily think it is unreasonable to have expected them to look better (and maybe even score more than half a goal per game).
But I guess I’m just being retardedly sarcastic again.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 18, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't watch the England game
But I suspect he’s been playing very high up the field – meaning he needs other people to get him the ball, and he’s susceptible to being marked out of the game. Rooney does a lot better when he lies closer to the midfielders – but then he’d be getting into Lampard and Gerrard’s space, so that’s an issue as well.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
As a WC 2010 counter-example
look at Messi for Argentina. Messi is a better player than Rooney, yes – But Argentina generally are having him drop back into the midfield to receive the ball and then create goals ot be poached by poacher extraordinaire Higuain.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jun 18, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
When you're constantly unfunny, it takes chutzpah to get annoyed when people don't get your "humor."
But, if you are a great player, shouldn’t you be able to make some things happen. Maybe not several goals, but I don’t really even see Rooney getting "open" more than once or twice per game.
Soccer’s not a solo game — you need help from your teammates too and he’s getting none.
And yes, he might start for any team in the world, but they have a squad where they might have three to five of those dudes. I don’t necessarily think it is unreasonable to have expected them to look better (and maybe even score more than half a goal per game).
And sometimes very good players play very poorly. The 2004 Lakers had a host of great players, but imploded badly. The 2004 Olympic men’s basketball team is maybe an even more apt comparison — tons of individual talent, poor chemistry, and lousy results.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jun 18, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then I'm glad...
that I have chutzpah, just like you.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 19, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
A draw here means we win and were through
correct?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
A draw means we let...
the Slovakia/U.S. ref determine the winner.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Tie can get the U.S. through
as long as England loses or draws to Slovenia. if both games are a draw, the US needs to make sure England does not score 3 more goals than the US in the remaining game
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This thing...
is a hot mess.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
because England, with a win over Slovenia, would be through too.
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Or if England loses or draws with Slovenia
than it’s us and Slovenia. At 5 and 5/7 points, respectively.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Wins from all teams, except Algeria next Wednesday
will guarantee a berth in the final 16.
Algeria can get in if they beat the US and Slovenia beat England.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Craptacular by england, too.
Well, U.S. beats Algeria, they’re in.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
0-0, FT.
Wow.
Hilarious. The radio announcers are blaming the England players’ exhaustion on the game they played at altitude LAST SATURDAY.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well...
they don’t look energetic. But, I wonder if they are being allowed to party every night, or if they just suck.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 18, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
They have good players
but a terrible team. They don’t play well together.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
And...
Carragher gets to miss the next game.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 18, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
When I struggled playing bball at the Fieldhouse this winter
I always felt it was due to a game of 21 I played in Denver 8 years ago. I just didn’t have my lungs back.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor guy.
Whenever I’m too tired to do something, I just blame it on that time I joined the Mile-High club with Kathy Ireland back in 1987.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 18, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I checked WebMD
and I don’t think that’s a correct diagnosis . . . . . in fact, banging Kathy Ireland isn’t even listed as a symptom.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I would have thought that banging Kathy Ireland would be a remedy.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 18, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah, I'd love to get with her.
Sincerely,
My Penis Circa 1991.
Is this line of dialogue really happening?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
My ankle hurts...
I hurt it at a field party 15 years ago. I’m dragging, coach.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
This is going to be great
I love that France and England are in deep trouble.
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Slovenia can play for a draw to guarantee advancement too.
A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance
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We can beat Algeria.
After that robbery and absolute theft of our victory and extra 2 points, I expect the US to play inspired. I’m going to say a draw between England and Slovania, us and Slovania move on to round of 16.
USA! USA! USA!
Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
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GROUP C
1) Slovenia: 1-0-1, 4 pts, +1 GD, 3 goals scored
2) USA: 0-0-2, 2 pts, +0 GD, 3 goals scored
3) England: 0-0-2, 2 pts, +0 GD, 1 goal scored
4) Algeria: 0-1-1, 1 pt, +0 GD, 0 goals scored
How to advance:
SLOVENIA: Win and they’re in. They’re also in with a draw.
USA: Win and they’re in. They’re also in with a draw and an ENG-SLV draw, if it’s not really high-scoring.
ENG: Win and they’re in. They could also be in with a really high-scoring draw with SLV and a draw between USA-ALG.
ALG: They need to win and a Slovenia win. Or they need to score a boatload of goals to overcome the GD/GS tiebreakers that Slovenia has.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If both the US and England end with a draw in their next match
they will be tied with 3 points and each will have a goal differential of 0.
What is the tiebreaker at that point to determine who advances?
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jun 18, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
most goals scored
US is up 3-1 there
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If that Malian dude hadn't disallowed our third goal
We’d have 4 points and be a lock for advancing. That makes me a sad panda.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions
Water under the bridge now
nothing can be done at this point other than to win (or draw and hope) against Algeria and move on to the next round.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jun 18, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
No not destroy...
Let’s “liberate” them with our bombs.
Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
Is the World Cup enjoyed?...
or is it endured?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
England has gone roughly 185 minutes without scoring a goal
counting stoppage time, since their goal against the US came in the 4th minute.
Who would have expected that?
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jun 18, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
1st Place Scenarios for US
Win over Algeria by a larger margin than England win over Slovenia.
Win over Algeria by 2 goals and Slovenia draws with England.
Win over Algeria 1-0, Slovenia and England draw 0-0.
I believe it's simpler than that.
A win puts us at 5 points, while an England victory means Slovenia has just 4 and England has 5. Thus, we advance with England.
If Slovenia draws England, that leaves England with 3 and Slovenia with 5, so a win by the US advances the US and Slovenia.
The US need only to worry about winning. The funny scenarios come with two more draws in the group.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Nevermnid.
After pressing “post” I realized those were first place scenarios, not advance scenarios. I’m dumb.
by The Mexican't on Jun 18, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Our official, Mr. Magoo...
had his Wiki page updated…
http://www.blogcdn.com/soccer.fanhouse.com/media/2010/06/screen-shot-2010-06-18-at-12.10.50-pm.png
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 18, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions
I like how it says
“Coulibaly is rumoured to hate the United States of America with the burning passion of a white hot sun,” above which is the little box saying “the neutrality of this article is disputed.” So instead of just changing it someone protested its neutrality.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Jun 18, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Or the burning passion of Hoosier fans
for 25,000 Kelvin Sampsons.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you folks, I'll be here all night
because I’m a sad, lonely little man…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 19, 2010 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Because I'm too lazy to create a fanpost
Every American should see this video. Special attention paid to the 72 second mark, at which Ricky Stanzi let’s us know that America is on his mind from the moment he awakens.
Well done, Señor Mas Casa.
OK, that thing is a goldmine.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 18, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hot damn, that is awesome.
Mas Casa is the best.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
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