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Revisiting Football Season Finale Options

Six weeks ago, before the college football world overdosed on crack and went completely and utterly insane and back when expansion talk was just a back-burner issue to pass the time in the long, ponderous off-season, we looked at the possibility of shaking up Iowa's end-of-the-year rivalry game.  Well, six weeks later one of those options has moved from hypothetical to actual -- and it's arguably the most juicy option of the bunch, Nebraska.

Of course, we aren't the only program giving Nebraska the once-over for that end-of-the-year slot; Barry Alvarez and Bret Bielema are leading a public campaign to make Wisconsin-Nebraska a new end-of-season tradition:

BretBielema I contacted the Big 10 office about hopefully scheduling Nebraska as a last game rival on a yearly basis. Possible starting a trophy game. 

Until Iowa and Minnesota became regular dance partners in the early '80s, Minnesota-Wisconsin was a longstanding end-of-season rivalry game; they played every year from 1933-1982.  Since then, the Badgers have entertained a grab-bag of opponents, including multiple games with Michigan State, Northwestern, and (weirdly) Hawaii.  Their push for Nebraska comes despite the fact that they have less history with the Huskers than virtually any other Big Ten school; while neighbors Minnesota and Iowa have rich and long-standing history against Nebraska (51 and 41 games, respectively), Wisconsin has played Nebraska only five times (most recently in 1974).  Among Big Ten opponents, only Northwestern, Ohio State, and Purdue have played Nebraska less.

So what's your preference on what Iowa should do?  Stick with the old familiar in Minnesota, a series that has produced plenty of good memories (especially in the Aughts)?  Embrace the new hotness with natural rival Nebraska?  Just say "fuck it" and embrace someone else entirely, like Wisconsin, Penn State, or Northwestern? Time to vote.  A deeper look at the candidates after the jump.

Star-divide

MINNESOTA
Series Record:
 42-59-2 (Minnesota leads)

Season Finale History: 25 meetings; Iowa holds a 16-9 advantage. They've met in the season finale in all but three of the past 25 years.

Pros
: Lots of history, especially recently -- they've played each other in eight of the past ten season finales and there have been plenty of memorable moments, like Ed Hinkel's 4-TD day in 2005, the glorious satisfaction of 55-0 in 2008, and (of course) the epic goalpost theft of 2002.  Sure, all but the de-goalposting could have happened if the game took place earlier in the season, but having them take place in the final game of the regular season does add a little juice to the proceedings.  Also, while some Minnesota fans may claim that Wisconsin is a bigger rival, they don't chant "WE HATE WISCONSIN" during totally unrelated games, do they?

Cons:
  Nothing really, unless you're just bored of seeing Iowa play Minnesota in the season finale.  A late November game in Minnesota could get chilly (though the same could be said of any other option here, too).

UPDATE: Nothing's changed here, although it's worth remembering that there's a fair amount of history here that couldn't be replicated elsewhere easily or that wouldn't be as special against Minnesota if it happened earlier in the season.  Would 55-0 be quite so memorable if it wasn't the season finale and the Gophers' last-ever game in the Metrodome?  And good luck getting enough Iowa fans into Memorial Stadium in Lincoln to stage a goalpost takedown if Iowa has another chance to clinch a Big Ten title on another school's turf.  Also worth considering: with end-of-season rivalry games moving to Thanksgiving weekend would you rather go to Lincoln or Minneapolis that weekend?

NEBRASKA 
Series Record: 12-26-3 (Nebraska leads)

Season Finale History:
 18 meetings; Nebraska holds a 13-4-1 advantage.  Remarkably, Nebraska is Iowa's second-most popular season finale opponent, although all of those encounters came prior to 1945 (the year of the last season finale meeting) and most occurred in the 1890s or 1910s.  

Pros:
 Despite the fact that the two schools who haven't played each other in a decade and have played each other only five times in the past thirty years, there's still a great deal of enmity present; chalk it up to the border rivalry that continues to fester.  In Iowa and Nebraska you have two of the most passionate and intense fanbases around, so the atmosphere at an Iowa-Nebraska game would likely be amazing.  Strong potential for national attention.

Cons:
  Tickets to Iowa-Nebraska games would be really hard to come by.  Despite the long-standing enmity, most of the history here is of the ancient variety (only six games since 1946).  

UPDATE: Well, there's certainly no shortage of interest in the series; anyone who's hung around Iowa message boards, newspapers, or this blog can attest to the interest there is in a Iowa-Nebraska series.  And if you've ever spent any time in western Iowa (which we don't recommend, but we understand may be unavoidable), you know there's a lot of intense feeling surrounding Nebraska.  If you subscribe to the theory that the end-of-season rival should be your biggest rival, bestowing that honor on Nebraska would feel a little odd, considering the lack of recent history in the series.

WISCONSIN
Series Record:
 42-41-2 (Iowa leads)

Season Finale History: 3 meetings; Iowa holds a 2-1 edge.  They last met in a season finale in 2004, which wasa rather memorable game.

Pros: Another border rival and one of the closest rivalries in the Big Ten.  Sticking it to Badger fans never really gets old.  The atmosphere at Iowa-Wisconsin games is often pretty electric, since you have two of the more rabid (and well-lubricated) fanbases in the Big Ten; toss in some bowl or conference title implications, and things could get really intense.

Cons:  Harder to get tickets at Wisconsin than it is at Minnesota.  Despite the long-standing nature of the rivalry (Minnesota remains the only team Iowa's played more than Wisco), it doesn't always feel particularly heated, although as with many things rivalry-based, that may depend heavily on one's perspective.

UPDATE: Nothing's changed here.  And, to be fair, it's hard to envision a scenario in which Iowa-Wisconsin would become an end-of-season rivalry in the new Big Ten, unless Minnesota somehow got hold of the end-of-season rivalry with Nebraska.  But the points remain: this is an incredibly close and competitive rivalry and one that's seen plenty of entertaining games in recent years.  

PENN STATE 
Series Record: 11-11

Season Finale History:
 n/a

Pros:
 The Penn State series has produced some of the most exciting and momentous wins and moments of the Ferentz Era at Iowa, like the 42-35 rollercoaster win in 20026-4 and the FU safety in 2004Daniel Murray and the incredible comeback win in 2008, or Adrian Clayborn's rain-soaked punt block in 2009.  Could attract national spotlight if both teams are vying for a conference title or BCS bowl berth.

Cons:
 No more primetime games if the game gets moved to November.  A late-season loss (hey, it could happen) could be especially damaging to bowl or title aspirations.  Trekking to Happy Valley (or vice versa) would be a pain in the ass during Thanksgiving weekend.  Not a protected rival.

UPDATE: Still a dark horse contender, but perhaps one worth remembering anyway.  There were some corkers in this series in the Aughts.

Poll
Who should be Iowa's opponent in the end-of-season rivalry game?
Minnesota
380 votes
Nebraska
735 votes
Wisconsin
49 votes
Penn State
101 votes
Other (specify in comments)
7 votes

1272 votes | Poll has closed

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Penn State winning early.

Awww, you guys like us.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 14, 2010 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Awww, you guys like beating us.

Fixed it for you.

Fiya Minaya.

by BringBackBobby on Jun 14, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went with PSU

Like Ross said, it’s been an exciting, evenly matched series through the Ferentz era. Minnesota has been lopsided, we haven’t played Nebraska frequently enough lately (granted we have only played PSU 22 times) and for some reason just not excited enough about Wisconsin.

by Pain in the Sash on Jun 14, 2010 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Whoever created the Heartland Trophy for Iowa vs. Wisky...

should be shot. The last time 70,000 people worshiped a golden cow, God made them wander the desert for 40 years.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And, that statue is not cool. That is the main reason I don't like it.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

It is a pretty cool trophy.

Also, any religious aspect is irrelevant because we are a) adults, and b) not BYU or Utah.


"Kittens give Morbo gas."

by Bucketochicken on Jun 14, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

2nd'd

I really like that trophy.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 14, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys like the look of this?

Sure, it looks better when Iowa players are hoisting it, but standing alone, I think that cow looks kind of retarded. It is like they were trying to rip off Floyd, only with fake gold (or brass?) and a cow.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You like the winged jerseys.

Your sense of aesthetic beauty is invalid.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was going to make a comment like...

“it is not close to being as beautiful as the old Iowa Apex jerseys.” But then I knew that would be used to prove I am blind.

But you beat me to it, so thank you, Ross. ;)

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did they just spray gold-colored paint on a Mooby toy?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jun 14, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly, it is ridiculous

The idea of a gold bull for a heartland trophy is great.

Why they went with a cartoon bull attempting a “nose stand” is unfathomable.

by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 14, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

It was doing some sort of shaman dance.

The Gram stain is useful in classifying bacteria because....it gives me another reason to hate biology?

by hkobb7 on Jun 15, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

3rd'd.

It’s a sharp-looking trophy, in my opinion.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess it is about...

800% better than the Land-Grant Trophy. But c’mon?

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every other rivalry trophy in existance is 800% better than the Land Grant Trophy

Except the Cy-Hawk trophy, which is only 7.2% better.

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Jun 14, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sharp as in...

Bulls are generally kinda pointy some place. Outside of that, not so much.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jun 14, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too Many Trophies

have diminished the value of the cool ones, like Floyd.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Jun 14, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Lack of a good matchups has diminished the value of Floyd as well. And the Cy-Hawk.

by edr247 on Jun 14, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin Smith made a shit-ton of money using a golden cow in his movies.

Can you say MOOBY?

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Jun 14, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No!

If Iowa plays Nebraska, we’ll be stuck with MSU.

No!

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I

by ReadingRambler on Jun 14, 2010 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes!

If Iowa plays Nebraska, they’ll be stuck with MSU.

Yes!

by HawkeyeInExile on Jun 14, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

"(weirdly) Hawaii"

NCAA rules allow an extra game to a team that plays at Hawaii, because otherwise nobody would schedule them out of conference due to the logistical/$$$ nightmare that is traveling halfway around the world for a football game. That’s why Wisconsin has played @ Hawaii so many times (note that the Warriors haven’t traveled to Madison)

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Jun 14, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm aware of that rule.

Just a little surprising that Wisconsin had taken advantage of it as often as they had.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

We (Iowa) did the same on December 1, 1984.

I’m not sure if that rule was in place, but that was a road game at Hawaii for the last non-bowl game of that year.

(No, I didn’t have that memorized, but I ran across it while I was looking at Iowa v. Minnesota scores).

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alvarez did that intentionally for recruiting purposes

He would schedule a season-ending game at Hawaii every 4 years or so (never against them in Madison) so he could tell recruits that they would get a chance to go to Hawaii once in their career at Wisconsin.

Pretty smart move in my opinion.

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jun 14, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's kind of clever.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

A team gets 2 protected rivalries under current B10 rules

How do the rules change when we go to divisions and a championship game? Probably a lot.

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Jun 14, 2010 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Depends.

In some cases, what’s now a “protected rivalry” may simply become a “divisional rivalry.”

Delany and the Big Ten brass seem well aware of the importance of rivalries in the Big Ten and they aren’t going to rubber-stamp a plan that kills them. Obviously, some rivalries aren’t as important as others (who knew that Purdue and Illinois play for a trophy? Or Minnesota and Penn State?) and their survival won’t be prioritized, but I think many will in one fashion or another.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a perfect world.

Iowa would still play Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Minnesota in a division.

So, if we get one “protected rivalry” outside the division, I would favor PSU. If we get two, I’m not sure who else I would want to keep. Illinois? jNW? OSU? MSU? None are really rivalries, but the Illinois schools border us, and MSU has been a feisty game recently. And, if Iowa is on the brink of a pattern of great success, then a yearly meeting with OSU would be a good test.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll save OSU for the championships.

I like Penn State and then Michigan State.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jun 14, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they split it evenly East & West

Geographically Illinois would be in the Big10 +2 West along with us so we would play them every year anyway. So would jNW

"I believe I have the total package of speed, strength, and explosion," Adrian F@#kin Clayborn

by DportROTCHawki on Jun 15, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent Point.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 15, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i also went with PSU

but i’m sure we’ll always play the goofers, we tend to stick to some traditions well past their shelf life. no getting around playing a finale opponent who owns the “who hates Iowa?” cheer.

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Jun 14, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I like the PSU game right where it is.

I like playing PSU at about the half-way point of Iowa’s Big ten season, or early in the Big Ten season.

And, for pretty much all of my life that I can remember, Iowa has played Minnesota for the pig for the last game of the year. While I don’t really like the idea of messing with that, there are two things that would let me consider making it the second-to-last game. First, Minnesota has really only “showed up” for the game about one out of every three times in the Ferentz era. Second, I do wonder how cold a trip it will be to “The Bank.”

Therefore, I voted for making Nebraska our new year-end game. I figure, Wisconsin has one of “our” basketball recruits, so let’s pay them back by stealing their hopes for the Nebraska year-end game. If they really want a year-end rivalry game, let them start it with the other NU (jNW).

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Nebraska is a no brainer

and not only because of the convenient (and wildy entertaining) drive east from Denver to Lincoln.

let’s face it – Nebraska is still a big name nationally, and playing them annually would do a lot for Iowa. the tradition, the fanatic Husker fans, national perception, etc.

let’s think big picture here – 50 yrs, 75 yrs, etc. in that context, who cares about losing a rivalry with Minnesota. unless all of you believe in Brewster’s ability to take the Goofies to new heights…

by KentuckyThunderPussy on Jun 14, 2010 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

That is an insult.

Nobody believes in Brewster’s ability to take Minnesota to new heights. Not even gopher fans or their athletic director.

Thank you very much.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's bullshit.

He’s got us ready to turn the corner.
/climbs chair
We’re adding depth right now, and we’re going to be making a run at the Big Ten title in 2011.
/adjusts noose
Everything’s coming up Goldy.
/jumps

I voted Nebraska. It makes sense.

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 14, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Don't GO FIGHT WIN do it, WSR.

You have too much EXCELLENCE SUCCESS TRADITION to live for.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, I'm ok.

Brewster tied the knot.

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 14, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wasn't a TRY FIGHT BOY SCOUT?

Or was he and just took credit for all of Mack Brown’s knots in order to get that knot-tying merit badge…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know how some people teach children how to tie shoelaces...

with a rhyme or song? I just thought about how funny it would be to hear Brewster singing one of those with some motivational tourettes added in.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 14, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This appropriate because of a story that I saw in the Star-Tribune

Not sure if this has already been reported here, and I couldn’t find the article in their archives, but I was on my way home from Canada and happened to see a copy of the Star-Tribune from Thursday or Friday. It essentially said that the addition of Nebraska to the Big Ten means that Minnesota will never have a shot of returning to prominence in the Big Ten. It was quite amusing. I will continue looking for the article.

by shada's revenge on Jun 14, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The last time Nebraska played the Gophers

in Minneapolis, the Huskers took a knee twice at the end of the first half rather than try to add to their lead. Goldy has refused to play them since.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 14, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was in Lincoln.

But yeah, it does show the intestinal fortitude (or lack thereof) of the Minnesota Athletic Department and our previous coach.

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 14, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

0-14 since 1960?!

Maybe Mason just got tired of beating his head against that particular brick wall.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mason never played Nebraska.

He was too preoccupied dealing with such college football powers as Ohio, Toledo, SW Texas State, and conquering the University of Louisiana system (but not State)

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 14, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, those Music City Bowl invites didn't grow on trees.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jun 14, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he did

But not as a Goofer— he had 9 losses to UN as Kansas HC.

by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the story

I was wrong on several fronts. First the article wasn’t in the trib, and it is much less self-indulgent whining than I thought. Here’s the link

by shada's revenge on Jun 14, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great link, that is a good read.

Their summary at the bottom does a good job of surmising what each team’s challenges in a conference race might look like.

by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 14, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have it take the place of Nebraska's annual meeting with Colorado on Black Friday, day after Thanksgiving.

That’s a great, great day for Husker fans. I think it would be as great for us Hawkeye fans. Send the S.O. to shop if she wants, you start boozing for a 2:30 p.m., nationally-televised and totally awesome game every year.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jun 14, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Wisconsin (usually a contender) though

The Gram stain is useful in classifying bacteria because....it gives me another reason to hate biology?

by hkobb7 on Jun 15, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted Nebraska

FWIW

Bugeaters. Western Interstate University Football Association/Missouri Valley Conference/Missouri Valley Intercollegiate Athletic Association foes (also a reason Missouri would be a good Iowa rival, Frank Holbrook etc). Split the conference title in 1907. There’s tradition there, but it’s been in a steamer trunk in great grandpappy’s attic for quite a few years. I think it could be brought out, polished up, and put up on the mantle again.

Did you know that once upon a time, the Hawkeyes were called the Cornhuskers and the Cornhuskers were called the Hawkeyes?

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Jun 14, 2010 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Now that you metion it.

I was in Omaha this past weekend and saw that exact infomation in a shop down in the Old Market.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jun 14, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You sure about that?

I know Iowa were the Cornhuskers but I am pretty sure Nebraska were the Bugeaters.

So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!

by Amonra on Jun 14, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nebraska had a few different names

most notably the Bugeaters and the Old Gold Knights. I don’t think Hawkeyes was one of there names. I’ve heard this before, but I’ve never been able to find proof.

by Lioli44 on Jun 14, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted Wisconsin

But that is because I think that Penn State and Nebraska should finish off the year with each other, as neither team has a longstanding Big Ten rival, and Minnesota typically sucks.

by Seth9 on Jun 14, 2010 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

MInnesota

because a) it’s a fun game with honest rivalry blood lust; b) we usually win and that often catapults us to bigger and better things and; b2) with a looming Championship game the final game of the season is only a big deal to the lesser schools—I would hope Iowa plans on making it to the championship game often. Why have back-to-back ball buster games in that case.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Jun 14, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I also went Minnesota

mainly because I enjoy ending the regular season at home, be it at Historic Kinnick Stadium or at newly founded Kinnick North Bank Stadium. Also, the LOLphers hatred for us amuses me whereas there isn’t currently that animosity with NU. I say we wait out NU’s entrance into the Big TwelvEN for 5-10 years and then look back into it. If we turn out to have the best rivalry with them, I’m sure Wisco and Minn. wouldn’t mind working things out so that they play one another to end the season. Plus I want to see how many years in a row we can shut out the LOLphers.

by A True Americanzi on Jun 14, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

There is nothing better than going to that little sleepy town called MINNEAPOLIS and having more fans than the home team. That sure as hell won’t happen in stinkin Lincoln. But it may be best for bowl position to beat a Nebraska team in late November than September.

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by RonnieHarmonsBookie on Jun 14, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

My vote goes to Nebraska, bring on...

THE WAR IN THE CORNFIELD

Natural border rival, likely to become the de facto Big Ten West championship. Let’s make it happen.

by Lioli44 on Jun 14, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Nebraska

because that game could become what Nebraska/Oklahoma used to be—a signature game on national television that everyone talks about. We already know that we can play with the big boys like UNL, but doing so in a signature game would raise our profile to the point where fans and recruits across the country think of us as a national power.

I understand the desire to always finish the season at home—at Kinnick or TCF, it’s always going to be full of Hawkeye fans. That’s not going to happen in Lincoln. But if we want to be considered one of the big boys, we have to finish the season with another big boy and not a cupcake like the Gophers.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 14, 2010 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I voted Nebraska, for reasons above.

Nebraska already has a yearly game on ABC at 2:30 p.m. every Friday after Thanksgiving. When I lived in Lincoln and went to school at UNL, it was a blast. In the few years since, I find an excuse to party. Thursday is for the family. Friday is for the friends and letting loose.

It would quickly become akin to Michigan-Ohio State if the two teams were good the first few years.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jun 14, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

News is

Bielema and the Badgers are trying to lock in Nebraska as their season-ender. And since they end with crap teams like Cal Poly and Fresno and Hawaii and such, I can see them getting to pull Nebraska as the conference/season ender. The Big10(12!) will figure Iowa already has Floyd to end with…

by edr247 on Jun 14, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

that really irks me.

it almost seems as if Wisconsin and Bielema are doing the ooooo I want the new toy even though I don’t deserve it trick. For some reason it really bothers me that the minute nebraska gets in Wisconsin calls dibs like they have a storied history together.

by Pain in the Sash on Jun 14, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alvarez played at Nebraska for Devaney

My only guess why they want NU

So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!

by Amonra on Jun 14, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that

And the fact that, like recruits, if Iowa wants something then Bielema automatically does as well.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jun 14, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, an apparently that's all it will take (if you drink the Badger kool aid)

But then again Bielema played for Fry, so we should obviously be their end of the season rival.

Hearsay Alert (Since I can’t find a journalist who wrote this) While debating my UW friends this weekend they kept making the point that Nebraska owes Alvarez big time as he was the one who convinced the rest of the Big Ten to admit Nebraska. They (okay, sample size of 3 fairly recent alums) all said that it “was being discussed up there” how much Osborne owes Alvarez for getting them into the Big Ten. I think it’s a bunch of badger dung, but Barry is god, so of course he will get whatever he wants. I personally don’t think that there was all that much opposition, but again, I could be wrong and Barry could be god. Sometimes I wish he had just coached Mason City for 30 years and retired.

by PackerHawk on Jun 14, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They want Nebraska

because they haven’t had a good year-end rival since the Gophers dumped them for us.

But none of this is going to be settled until the divisions are decided. I’ve seen several proposals where the Badgers get sent east with Michigan/OSU and Penn State gets sent west.

So all the Badgers are doing right now is behaving like Mizzou with the Big Ten. Just raising your hand and saying
“Pick me! Pick me!” is not going to get it done. Besides, the Cornhuskers will make the final decision on who they play.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 14, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Hawkeyes haven't had a good year-end rival since...

….“the Gophers dumped them for us.”

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jun 14, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

The Gram stain is useful in classifying bacteria because....it gives me another reason to hate biology?

by hkobb7 on Jun 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like playing Minnesota at the end of the season

but I would be perfectly happy with Penn State or Nebraksa. As a side note, I think having Penn State vs Nebraska for the end of the season would be great as well.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Jun 14, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Only for bowl position

Is the reason why I will vote for Nebraska. Hlas is right. They travel like we do but have the bigger name. If it was NU vs. Iowa for the Orange Bowl, they would have gone.

There is only one thing to do about that, which is beat them in the final game.

A fella steps out for a two pound burrito and all hell breaks loose.

by Mr. Grizz on Jun 14, 2010 6:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Iowa/Nebraska should end the season for both schools

1. Border status means easy travel for Nebby in bad November weather.
2. I prefer PSU/Iowa as the conference opener.
3. Wisco and Minny is the most played rivalry in college football so they should be playing each other at the end of the year. Also, both teams’ fans like to tell us Hawk fans how much more they care about their rivalry than the one they have with Iowa…. usually after Iowa has beat them down, of course.
4. Nebby and Iowa fans already like to talk trash with each other and we haven’t even played in over a decade.
5. Bielema can take his twitter campaign and shove it.

by HeartOfHawkness on Jun 14, 2010 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Wisconsin has very little history w/ Nebraska.

Even though Alvarez probably really promoted the Nebraska angle hard during the initial conference expansion phase; I think everyone knows that Iowa-Nebraska makes much more sense.

by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 14, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the 2002 Penn State game

It’s on Big Ten’s Greatest Games tomorrow at 8 on BTN. 2008 game is on Wednesday, 2005 Capital One Bowl is on Thurs, and 2002 Purdue game is on Friday. Apparently it’s Iowa week with a bunch of Iowa programming

by HawkgirlSTL on Jun 14, 2010 7:58 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Those are great games and pretty much show why Iowa should be Nebraska's rival.

I think the BTN programming chief must think Iowa games would be good programming to demonstrate some of the Big10’s greatest games the week after a giant Big10 conference expansion happens.

by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 14, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa/Nebraska for one simple reason:

Colors.

Nebraska wears red. Wisconsin wears an almost identical shade of red. Helmets are similar. Jerseys are similar.

Are you telling me that my buddies who’ve drunk themselves to Nolte Level 3 will be able to tell the difference in the 4th quarter? Some sad sack will go nuts when a Badger breaks a long TD run and his brahs will throw him off a balcony.

This must be prevented at all costs. Iowa-Nebraska: let’s keep each other safe out there.

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jun 14, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

for “Nolte Level 3”.

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Jun 14, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just like the DefCon level

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAcEzhQ7oqA

Except I believe that would be Nolte 1

The Gram stain is useful in classifying bacteria because....it gives me another reason to hate biology?

by hkobb7 on Jun 15, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowegians want to live in Northern Minnesota anyway!

Given the proximitiy of the two schools and coupled with the fact all of the denizens of the great state of Iowa vacation and secretly want to live in Minnesota, having Minnesota v Iowa as the regular season finale seems obvious to me.
Heck, even the cult hero Dan Gable spends his summers up here with us on Leech Lake.
Why would anyone want to change?

by freshwaterorca on Jun 15, 2010 6:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Theres a big difference between vacation and work.

You vacation somewhere to get away from work. Even though as of recently playing the goofers in football hasn’t necessarily seemed like work, you still don’t want to get them to close together. You put the game in the middle of the season. That way you split up your work and vacation more. After all, as the saying goes, It’s a nice place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Jun 15, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Finale

Illinois would be fun to beat the last game every year.

by jrasm on Jun 15, 2010 7:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Purely Personal

I married into a Cornhusker family and have respectfully cheered for them on the Friday after Thanksgiving against the Buffs. I would love to replace that tradition with one that has me decked out in Black and Gold screaming my guts out for the Hawks to whoop the Huskers. We can still beat Minnesota the week before.

by SavagePoop on Jun 15, 2010 7:47 AM CDT reply actions  

I concur.

I am going to marry into a Husker family. I want it to start out right.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jun 15, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Farmageddon !!

Iowa Nebraska hands down. I can’t believe anyone would rather watch Iowa Minnesota.

I’m wondering if we could trade Minnesota to another confrence?

by Southernfried Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

If the Big whatevr were gonna call it now

wants to keep the same end of year rivals which they might for the sake of tradition. Wisc/Neb would have to happen because everyone else already plays someone at the end of the year. Minn would also be a good warm up game before the Big10ish conf champ game

"I believe I have the total package of speed, strength, and explosion," Adrian F@#kin Clayborn

by DportROTCHawki on Jun 15, 2010 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

No, that would be for the sake of inertia

If you look big picture on tradition, it would be Iowa-Nebraska, Minn-WI. That’s where the bulk of the actual history lies (not just the last 30 years).

by PackerHawk on Jun 15, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody post that Sports Illustrated link quick

the one with the polls for who’s your number one rival and all that.

Apparently Wisco hates Minne more than they hate us. And Minne hates Wisco more than they hate us. So let them take their longest-rivalry-in-football and play each other at the end of the season.

We should get Nebraska to close out the season.

by HawkeyeInExile on Jun 15, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

How bout this Big Ten/12 logo?!

I just made it in paintbrush and I think it looks pretty badass if i do say so myself

by Gookin on Jun 15, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Nebraska Nebraska Nebraska Nebraska Nebraska

(I live in the Omaha Metro)
Husker fans think they are an elite, powerhouse, legendary, God of a program. They are so cocky and smug they pretty much pretend Iowa Football isn’t worthy of being in the same stadium. To have us as their designated “Rival” would force them to not only acknowledge us, but even better than that, it would really piss them off since they would expect to be paired with Michigan/tOSU/PSU and be assigned more our equal. It would be hilarious. I’m already excited to never have to hear “the Big Ten is Weak” or “If we played Iowa we’d kill you” ever again. Thinking of this possibility, there is a decent chance one of us could be undefeated going into that final weekend and if it is them I really really really want to be the ones to dash their hopes at a Big Ten Title in the last game. Nothing could be better. Minnesota? You have to be kidding me. Who cares about Minnesota? Please let Nebraska happen. I love the idea of taking over their annual Colorado game after Thanksgiving. Farmageddon? The Corn Wars? How could this NOT happen?

by CUNKNNK on Jun 16, 2010 1:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Minnesota

We should keep our ender as Minnesota. It’s a rivalry and tradition does count for something! When looking at it they can look back and see how many times the Hawkeyes have won the Floyd of Rosedale. Besides who doesn’t want to see our boys come home with a nice trophy?

Why would they split the conference? Yes we are up to twelve teams but the conference has said many times that they DON’T want to do a playoff system. It will be decided in the regular season. There will be three teams to rotate out every year. Period. The End. The Big Ten didn’t change everything when Penn State joined and we all know that Nebraska isn’t special. They’ll be added to our schedule, we’ll pulverize them and then send them home to lick their wounds.

by MKHAWKGIRL2 on Jun 18, 2010 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

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