Do We Have Any NCAA Experts In The House?
Simple question, but one that I don't have a prayer of knowing the answer to. Ryan Bowen, recently hired as administrative assistant and video coordinator, yes. Is he prohibited by the NCAA to do any on-court teaching with the players? Like, are there only certain people with certain titles that are allowed to provide coaching and instruction during official practices, or how does that work?
I ask because it seems like Bowen would be a good guy to have for a 5-on-5 scrimmage at the end of practice, but it also seems like this is exactly the kind of thing that the NCAA would have found a reason to prohibit.
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Not an expert
But I do know that the NCAA doesn’t preclude teams from bringing in non-coaches to practices for a multitude of things (for instance, Tiger Woods worked with Stanford’s golf team at a practice once or twice).
I do know, however, they can’t do any “coaching” during a game. I’d wager that Bowen isn’t allowed to be on the sideline giving instruction in that instance, but isn’t kept out of practice.
Does this help?
11.7.1.1.1.1 Noncoaching Activities. Institutional staff members involved in noncoaching activities
(e.g., administrative assistants, academic counselors) do not count in the institution’s coaching
limitations, provided such individuals are not identified as coaches, do not engage in any on- or off-field
coaching activities (e.g., attending meetings involving coaching activities, analyzing video involving the
institution’s or an opponent’s team), and are not involved in any off-campus recruitment of prospective
student-athletes or scouting of opponents. A noncoaching staff member with sport-specific responsibilities
may not participate with or observe student-athletes in the staff member’s sport who are engaged in
nonorganized voluntary athletically related activities (e.g., pick-up games). (Adopted: 1/16/93, Revised:
1/10/95, 12/13/05, 4/27/06 effective 8/1/06)
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So he won't be allowed to play in pick-up games?
As a video coordinator, wouldn’t he be engaging in video analysis?
by The Mexican't on May 7, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps I should've led into that with something else...
There are limitations on the number of coaches allowed. So thus….
11.7.1.1.1 Countable Coach. An athletics department staff member must count against coaching limits
as soon as the individual participates (in any manner) in the coaching of the intercollegiate team in practice,
games or organized activities directly related to that sport, including any organized staff activity directly
related to the sport.
So if he does take part in coaching, he will be considered a “countable coach.” Thus, the real question becomes, how many countable coaches are allowed?
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And the answer is?
Don’t leave us hanging
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 7, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't answer the question
I don’t want to spend all day reading through the bylaws. I read enough legal stuff as it is. I’m thinking that they might not actually set the number…maybe the conference does.
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I think it might be 4
1 head coach, 2 assistants, and a graduate assistant. I found that here , if I’m reading it right. And based on this NCAA.org site, there is some ongoing discussion right now with the NCAA regarding what is allowable activity for each type of role outside of that.
He's also an administrative assistant, by title
Did they accidentally shit the bed by adding the title?
by Angle's Dangle on May 7, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt it
That could be for University reasons. Maybe it lets them pull his salary from a different account or something. Or maybe he’s just a kick ass typist and Fran puts out a lot of memos.
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From the Ft. Madison newspaper:
New Iowa basketball coach Fran McCaffery has hired Bowen, who lives in Burlington, as the Hawkeyes’ Video coordinator and administrative assisant.
“It an extension of the coaching staff,” said Bowen, who also said he was glad to be back at his alma mater.
Bowen made it clear that he won’t be “just sitting in the video room all day.” He’ll also get to interact with the players. Although there are some things other assistants can do that he can’t, Bowen still sees this as a good inroad to his future plans.
“You run (the “film”) through the computer and code it all. Then you break it down. I’m in the process of learning that system among other things," Bowen said. “You can track 3-point shots, steals, rebounds ….”
When the season draws closer, he’ll spend more time getting scouting reports ready for the Hawks.
“I’m just excited to be there, to get my feet wet,” Bowen, the son of Joe and Alice Bowen, said.
Sounds to me like he’s planning on coaching and, if Rule 11.7.1.1.1.1 cited above applies, preparing scouting reports would make him a “countable coach” regardless of his job title.
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I see this same topic came up on the Rivals board.
Someone there said Bowen would be able to work with the players in unofficial settings – i.e., during the summer and the in non-coach-organized practices during the fall/winter/spring. As he explained it, he can work with them whenever Fran & Co. aren’t doing official organized practices.
Which would seem to make sense; unless Bowen possesses mad video editing skillz, it would seem very odd to hire him if he couldn’t work hands-on with the guys on the team, especially the post players.
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I didn't look
But there’s a whole section on regulations relating to summer activities for bball. I’m sure under there he is allowed to do those things. But if there’s a limit on “countable coaches” he probably can’t do it in the fall.
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Also, they can hire "consultants."
And “consultants” can sit on the bench during games, but can not directly coach players. The reason I know this is because I know a person who actually did this for a D-1 program.
Of course, this has no bearing on the Bowen situation.
Like Ross above, I hope Bowen will actually be able to coach our big men and wings. I like Jarryd Cole, but our big men have certainly been underwhelming lately, (maybe Cy Tate was pretty good, but that’s seems about it in the last 4 or 5 years).
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