Assume the Position 2010: Safety
You know the drill: Every Thursday from now until mid-August, BHGP breaks down the depth chart, position by position, from most certain to least certain.
Previously:
1. Quarterback
2. Defensive Tackle
Tonight: Safety

Revolution #9
Tyler Sash (#9, Junior, 6'1", 210, Oskaloosa, IA)
Thirteen starts in 2009, and 21 in a row overall. Eighty-five tackles, five and a half for loss. Six interceptions with 203 return yards, including an inexplicable play wherein he grabbed a bouncing Plinko chip and ran it 86 yards for a touchdown to keep Iowa in shouting distance of Indiana. Six pass breakups. Two forced fumbles. One dog. One American flag bandana. One JPEG. Consensus first team all-conference. AP third team all-American. Yes, it was a big 2009 for the Jimmer-Jammer, and it follows a big 2008. Sash's first two years as starting strong safety were so significant, in fact, that we're forced to ask the question: Can Sash be the best Iowa strong safety of the Ferentz era? Can he better Bob Sanders?
Now, mind you, it's a wholly unfair question; they are completely different players with different skill sets. Sanders was a natural in run support; Sash's pass instincts are nonpareil. Sanders was a heavy hitter; Sash is a sure tackler but better at playing the ball. And we're not asking if Sash is already better than Sanders, because he's not; while Bob was good as an underclassman, his true metamorphosis into human guided missile wasn't complete until midway through his sophomore year, and Sash has some way to go to match (in particular) Sanders' junior season. But through two years, their numbers are comparable: Sanders holds an edge in tackles, but Sash has more interceptions in two years than Sanders had in four. They are oddly similar in tackles for loss (where one would think Sanders would dominate) and pass breakups (where Sash would likely have an edge). Sanders didn't have the same injury problems in college that have recently plagued him, but there's no denying Sash's edge in durability (although he has now missed two consecutive springs with shoulder issues). If Sash stays healthy and takes another step forward this season, it will be time to ask the question.
The Epic One
Brett Greenwood (#30, Senior, 6'0", 200, Bettendorf, IA)
It's not that we were wrong about Brett Greenwood. Really, it's not.
Greenwood entered the program as a walk-on in 2006 and stunned us all when he was named starting free safety six games into the 2007 season. A game-killing end zone interception in his second game as a starter finished off Illinois and announced Greenwood's intentions to the world. The remainder of the freshman campaign went forward without an event of note.
Greenwood's sophomore season? It was where EPIC GREENWOOD was born, as the safety was clearly the weak link in an otherwise stout defense, and offensive coordinators fitted him with a bullseye. Both Indiana and Pittsburgh exploited his limitations to great success, and if Dave Wannstedt and Bill Lynch can figure it out, anybody can. Greenwood recorded a career high in tackles that year, and it wasn't because he was focused on stopping the run. As 2009 opened, we were skeptical:
Greenwood's problem is not a lack of effort; you don't walk onto a BCS-conference program and start as a redshirt freshman unless you (1) went unnoticed because you played your high school ball in Gabon, or (2) worked your ass off. Nobody questions his commitment. It's just that, in Iowa's defense, a safety has to be in ideal position, tackle well, and stop the run. Too often, Greenwood doesn't.
And so what did Brett Greenwood do in 2009? He improved his positioning, improved his tackling, and even helped out against the run. He was far from a ballhawk; of his three interceptions, two came gift wrapped from Austen Arnaud. But Greenwood was in far better position to play the pass (seven breakups), he exhibited better instincts against the run, and he coupled both developments with far surer tackling. He wasn't yet a star, but he was no longer a weak link in an Iowa defense that was competent-to-unreal across the board.
It's not that we were wrong about Brett Greenwood. It's just that...OK, we might have been a little wrong. Good play, old chap. Now once more into the breach.
While You Wait for the Others
Lance Tillison (#18, Senior, 6'2", 215, Seffner, FL)
Lost in the injury and depth chart news from spring was the apparent return of Lance Tillison, one-time heir to the strong safety throne and 2009 program departee. Heading into 2008, Tillison was in the mix with Harold Dalton and Tyler Sash for a starting spot and heralded by yours truly as a high-level player who slipped through the cracks after Katrina forced him to transfer to a Florida high school days before the start of his senior season. Well, Sash won the spot, and Tillison left the team, and we thought that book was closed. And then Tillison somehow showed up this spring with no explanation given (at least not one that I've seen), and the prodigal safety could be in the mix for some playing time during his final season.
Tom Donatell (#13, Junior, 6'2", 205, Atlanta, GA)
The former walk-on, former quarterback, former linebacker has finally found a home on the Iowa depth chart, at least for the moment. Donatell chose to walk on at Iowa over Auburn and some Division II scholarship offers after missing his senior season with a torn ACL. He entered ostensibly as a quarterback, but had moved to the other side of the ball by the time his grayshirt year had finished. He played safety in high school, and the Iowa track record for walk-ons at safety is excellent, but Donatell won't see more than special teams duty unless Tyler Sash is out, and that's not even funny in an interesting way.
Nick Nielsen (#29, Sophomore, 6'3", 210, Humboldt, IA)
The younger brother of prohibitive starting strongside linebacker Tyler Nielsen switched numbers this spring for reasons unknown. Nielsen is another grayshirt, accepting an offer to join his brother in Iowa City (the "Reverse Derby" to the uninitiated) and has slowly moved his way up the depth chart, now co-backup free safety after seeing limited special teams action late last season. He fits the typical Iowa profile: Former high school quarterback, big numbers as a high school linebacker, good height/frame, spent a year with the strength team, etc., etc.
Jack Swanson (#40, Sophomore, 5'11", 205, Naples, FL)
Unlike everyone listed ahead of him at free safety, Swanson came to Iowa with a scholarship in hand. Like all the rest, though, he is stuck behind the entrenched starters for at least the next year. Swanson chose Iowa over offers from Purdue and Florida International, then added 15 pounds in his redshirt year. His physical growth plateaued last season, though, and while not undersized, Swanson is smaller than the other free safety options both this year and next. He has more experience than his competition, in that he has actually played and recorded a handful of tackles, but it's not the kind of experience that gives him a significant advantage. Still the prohibitive favorite for 2011.
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Sash is almost as valuable to the D as Bob was in his time.
Bob single-handedly saved or almost-saved a couple of games in his time as a Hawk, and Sash met that challenge with the IU game. Bob did get injured one season, and missed about 4-5 games I recall (I think his soph or jr year) but that doesn’t matter—it will indeed be a hard slog for Sash to exceed what Bob did.
And what Bob did, aside from stats, is transform the defense into a bad-ass unit. Sash is arguably not the best defender on his side of the ball for the Hawks, whereas Bob was, without a doubt. He was a FORCE out there, a force whose influence spread well beyond what he actually did. Tyler isn’t quite there yet.
Still, Sash just seems to be there, wherever “there” is, when he needs to. He’s just a little less of a force than Bob, sort of like being Lou Gehrig to Bob’s Babe Ruth, or Roger Maris compared to Mantle.
Amazing that he’s not even a senior yet. His best days may be yet to come, which—if you’re an opponent in the B10—has to be a worry for you.
"If you want to become a man--come to Iowa" All American IOWA LB PAT ANGERER, whose best friend is a dog.
Ferentz freely admit that Bob changed the entire attitude of the defense.
Sash hasn’t come close to having that sort of impact — although, to be fair, he also hasn’t needed to do that. King, Angerer, and Clayborn have been the pace-setters for the defense the last few years; next year is when Sash will need to be a leader for the defense.
Bob did get injured one season, and missed about 4-5 games I recall (I think his soph or jr year)
I don’t remember too much about 2001 (Bob’s SO year), but I’m pretty sure he didn’t miss many games in 2002 (his JR year). I do think he missed a handful of games in 2003, which was a bummer since it was his SR year.
I’m betting Sash will easily win the stats battle against Bob, but so much of Bob’s greatness and legend is tied up in stuff besides stats and I don’t know if Sash will be able to match that. The stat battle I’m interested in re: Sash is the career INT total — he has a great chance to break that record based on his current pace.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
One stat (although unofficial) in which Sash will never exceed the Sandman
It also happens to be my favorite: Running backs’ helmets that landed behind the LOS after being shot off their heads like a cannon from a bone rattling hit in the hole. I don’t see RBHTLBTLOSABSOTHLACFABRHITH becoming a major stat any time soon, but still. Although Sash wins the “WHAT THE FUCK PICK SIX WOOOOOOOOOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHA” stat column hands down. Either way, I’d sign either of them to a long-term extension at Iowa. Or the Jess Settles plan, minus the crippling back injury.
by shada's revenge on May 27, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
He missed one game for disciplary issues and three for injuries in his senior year.
He started 12 of 13 in ’03 and was basically healthy in ’02
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on May 27, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You said it all with this:
“And what Bob did, aside from stats, is transform the defense into a bad-ass unit.”
That is absolutely spot on. When I arrived in Iowa as a freshman in 2001, I was NOT an Iowa fan having grown up in Ames. With my only exposure to live college football being pathetic ISU games, I reluctantly bought tickets for the Hawks. To my astonishment, the Hawks were 180 degrees different from the ISU teams I was used to. The 2001 Hawks lost several games, but they didn’t let anybody push them around. Sanders was probably the biggest single reason for that (as well as the excellent coaching staff). He was my favorite player immediately and is still probably my all time favorite.
by houksyndrome on May 29, 2010 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Bob saved this young man's soul.
Is there any more that could have been asked of him?
by Cattlefeeder on May 31, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
This is nitpicky as hell
But what safety before DE? I mean, the starters are locked in at both positions, but it seems like the DEs jobs are a little safer since they’re not coming off shoulder surgery.
It was tough as hell to distinguish between DE, DT, and S, frankly.
I think you could put them in just about any order and it would work.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It's really all about depth.
As in, there is a little at DE (mostly because of Lebron Daniel) and absolutely none at the other two positions.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on May 27, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
It seems like there is depth at DT too, though.
What about Mike Daniels? I thought I read that Parker considers Daniels like a fifth DL starter.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on May 28, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that was my understanding too
Doc and Morehouse have also gone out of their way to praise Daniels, whereas I haven’t heard anything similar about Daniel.
Oh and on Tillison
Apparently he regretted his decision to leave and asked Ferentz if it was okay if he came back. Ferentz said sure, but didn’t offer him a scholarship (not sure if he’s still paying his own way or not, it’s possible a scholly opened up with a transfer or something). Also I’m like 90% sure he’s playing linebacker.
Yeah, he was playing mostly LB before he left the program.
He came in on some nickel situations or on a couple of those rare times we went 3-4. He’s kind of stuck in that tweener spot between S and LB.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think he is a full time LB now
He is wearing #50 now (according to the Spring Prospectus), which is very LB-like.
by The Barea Bunch on May 29, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
He's still listed at DB, and so he remains DB here.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Man, I don't think we know enough about him to label him a douchebag so callously.
… not that that’s ever stopped us before.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
TMFS is a classic Iowa kid ...
In that he gets the most out of his potential that he possibly can. That seems to be the rule during the Ferentz Era.
Two more years of Jimmer Jammer?
Shit, I’m excited.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on May 27, 2010 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
If we're lucky
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 27, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It seems like the safeties that go early are usually the super-freak athletes.
Sash doesn’t really fit that bill.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think he's NFL-caliber...
with two good years of performance and development. If he stays healthy, I think there will be a Sanders/Sash debate.
But 2010 is the Year of The Nightmarebeast. That and Stanzi leading Hawkeye Nation to a January bowl game after he cleans up the Gulf oil spill, teaches the world to divide by zero and fathers an uberheropatriot with Rachel McAdams.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on May 28, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Rachel McAdams
is Canadian. While anything connected to Stanzi is automatically more patriotic than Uncle Sam surrounded by 1000 flags while eating apple pie and watching baseball with a bald eagle on his shoulder, there are limits even to the Manzi’s patriotic abilities and “Canadian” is just a bit too much.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on May 28, 2010 1:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He may have the power to turn her American.
by HawkeyeRecon on May 28, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions
At least here babies will be half American!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
You guys know too much about Rachel McAdams. And bhnp said if he fathers a baby with her; but if they get married doesn’t she get permanent resident status? What the hell is the law? And, this is probably just me, but Rachel McAdams gets US permanent status for making my pants feel funny.
It's not just you.
And to stay on track…….TMFS!!!!! YES!!!!!
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
"At least here babies will be half American!"
Let me guess: You’re one of those guys who has always been an Iowa fan but went to Iowa State because it was “more convenient,” right?
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on May 28, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope,
Did my undrgrad at BV.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
Maybe it would be easier for you
if you just switched every single word you wrote to “derp.”
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on May 28, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Did I start something?
Sorry if I did.
Substitute Christina Hendricks, if it pleases the court.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on May 28, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Canadians are close enough to Americans...
…but if she were FRENCH-Canandian? Forget it.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 28, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Goddamn French!
Goddamn cheese-eating, surrender monkeys!
Ugh.
2003 called, it wants its retarded jokes back.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on May 28, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
This.
The French have been through things I don’t even want to contemplate.
All the Quebec-ers have given us is Dino Bravo, and that only slightly makes up for Celine D—blahharrghghghg (sorry I just threw up all over myself).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 28, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Good thing you made a Celine Dion joke
to support the derision of topical humor.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 28, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Celine Dion is the greatest singer in the world.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on May 28, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
(opens mouth to respond)
…(closes mouth, closes eyes, shakes head and walks away)
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 28, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Bryan Adams was busy.
(Hey, I thought I’d get patted on the back for trying to inject wrestling into the discussion- – thought maybe there’d be a “Dino Bravo! Where is he now?” kind of response. At which point I could have informed everyone that he was killed by Canadian mobsters over a cigarette importation ring.)
It’s not my fault you all dropped the ball.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 1, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
TMFS
Wasn’t he two INTs off of Kinnick’s season record? All due respect to The Legend, but I wouldn’t mind seeing that record updated this coming season.
7 away
The record for career INTs is 18; he’s at 11 right now. Definitely attainable in the next two years if he keeps up the pace he’s on, but you wonder if teams might start avoiding deep passes towards his side of the field after the last couple years.
He does already have the record for INT return yards though.
I'd imagine that Sash threatened the single season record last year, though.
For whatever reason, I cannot access the fact guide from work and have no idea what the record is. I assumed it to be 7.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Years of playing NCAA Football has taught me that it's 8.
Per the UI Football Media Fact Book, that record is shared by Lou King (1961) and Nile himself (1939). Amazingly, despite getting that many picks, neither got many return yards (62 for King, 52 for Kinnick).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Lack of yards is a bit odd.
But I can’t imagine that many of King or Kinnick’s INTs were the result of pinball madness that allowed for an 80+ yard return.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's the thing
Up until the Miami “Cocaine Users” Hurricanes of the early ’80s, it was generally considered unsporting to attempt to advance an interception unless you were losing. Nowadays, you see “thugs” and “gang members” like Amari Spievey—and also white people like “Showboat” Shada—taking picks to the house even when Iowa had a prohibitively large lead. I guess “real sports” are dead now… THANKS ALOT OBAMA!!!
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on May 28, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like we need a "The More You Know" rainbow here.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm more of a "Knowing Is Half The Battle" guy, personally.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I didn't watch much GI Joe as a child.
“Knowing is half the battle” is definitely the better phrase. It is also the better shirt idea.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Taylor is half the Battle
that Kenny was.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 28, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
No one says anything bad about Talor Battle and gets away with it!
Also, Flight 33, Kenny Battle (while awesome) had Kendall Gill, Marcus Liberty, Nick Anderson, etc, while Talor Battle has a corpse, a Persian cat, a naked hobo, and my mother.
"I want your money, but I don't want your two cents." - JVP
by ReadingRambler on May 28, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That was your mom?
Damn dude, bitch can ball.
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on May 28, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he had turnstile.
That dude’s a two sport stud

It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 28, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Jacobi is Waldorf
because they (I think) both don ’staches. Plus, Statler and HS are taller.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 28, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to assume that the photo should be our fearless leaders
But wasn’t sure if that was Packer’s intent. As it is, you get credit for the thought because you knew the muppets’ names.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
My intent was just grumpy old school men
Since Jacobi’s post was in the vein of “defensive backs these days have no class/respect”
No...
It was in the vein of “how fucking racist can I make one comment without dropping a neutron bomb.”
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on May 29, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Neutron bomb...
would have been a good nickname for Shonn Greene.
What the hell am I doing here?
Go to bed, Me!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on May 29, 2010 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Like when Chazz brought a live thread to a halt
with a deftly placed “Jews”.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 29, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
See I was thinking Dr. Honeydew and Beaker,
but Statler & Waldorf are even better.
And wasn’t today (or yesterday?) Frank Oz’s birthday?
/NPR’d
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on May 28, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
People remember him as Gonzo
whereas I remember him as the director (and cameo actor) of “Spies Like Us”. Now that’s cinema.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 29, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
And not
the corrections officer from “The Blues Brothers”?
For shame, sir. For shame.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 29, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Not career
Season. I remember he was a couple off of Kinnick’s (?) record for INTs in a single season.
6 INTs last year.
So, yes, just 2 away from sharing the record with Nile and the aforementioned Lou King.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
7? is that all?
He could pick that up in the two games left he has with Iowa State.
Adrian Clayborn is strong enough to pull the ears off a Gundark
by The Bacon Explosion on May 28, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW
How did it feel to be Greenwood after last year’s ISU game? Two picks, six tackles, five solo. Should have been a lock for performer of the week. Uh, woops. TMFS.
Adrian Clayborn is strong enough to pull the ears off a Gundark
by The Bacon Explosion on May 28, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
IIRC, Sash and Greenwood were having a friendly competition
To determine who would field more arm punts, which is hilarious.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
1-2 of Sash's INTs
were off of tips by Greenwood, IIRC.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Rittenberg linked to this story
on his “Lunch Links” at his blog over at ESPN.
Congrats guys.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on May 28, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
He's also had them listed in his blog roll for a while.
There’s no denying that Rittenberg is a BHGP fan.
by The Mexican't on May 28, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh, he just likes seeing the name "Adam."
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on May 28, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It is at that
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 28, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Up and Adam!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET IT
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on May 29, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
No, no, no
It’s “Up and atom!”
Ya, that’s what I said, “Up and at them!”

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Parents are such dicks.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He's used the Manzi terminology before, too.
If only we could get him to link to some of the purest insanity we put out, like MARCHIFORNICATION… well, I would be a happy man.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And he'd be unemployed.
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on May 29, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Bah.
ESPN pays Skip Bayless and Rick Riley to spout less-intelligible (and less entertaining) drivel.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Oh right, it's ESPN.
Never mind.
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on May 30, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, you were right
but you also said Adrian Clayborn should play DT, so stick it, Borehouse.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
I say a lot of things
Mostly nonsensical.
"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."
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