Behold, The Worst Article Yet On Big Ten Expansion
You can probably imagine the defensiveness that's necessarily surrounding the Big XII these days. After all, with Missouri and Nebraska practically begging to join the Big Ten, an outside observer might come to the conclusion that the Big XII is an inferior conference (especially if said outside observer were to try to find a Big XII football game that didn't involve Texas or Oklahoma on national television). So there's bound to be a backlash from the rest of the conference.
And nowhere would that backlash of pride be more centralized than the state of Oklahoma, where the Sooners and Cowboys are probably the only two competent athletic departments in the conference that aren't being mentioned as potential candidates for expansion to one of the three (let's be honest) real power conferences. That's not to say that their athletics departments will shrivel up and die when the Big XII inevitably collapses--they'll be all right--but nobody's saying "If the Oklahoma schools left, what would happen to the rest of the Big XII?" Again, not a knock, just a simple by-product of their geography and their history.
But holy smokes, when that tribal pride is unleashed on the rest of the world--particularly by the Tulsa World's Dave Sittler--intelligence calmly excuses itself... by setting itself on fire and jumping out a 20th-story window.
The article starts out innocuously enough, mentioning the fact that the Missouri athletic department would stand to make $15 million a year more by joining the Big Ten. That's not in dispute by anybody, and it's as close to a singularly clinching factor as you'll ever see in these negotiations. The academic standing of the Big Ten, of course, doesn't hurt. So we've clearly delineated some rational, inarguable reasons why Missouri would leave. Now let's get crazy.
Since the Big 12 started competition in 1996, Missouri has won or shared four regular-season championships and eight titles overall when you include postseason Big 12 tournaments.
No, I'm not talking about just football or men's and women's basketball championships. That is the combined number of titles the 18 men's and women's teams have won for Mizzou over the past 14 years!
And that's counting two Big 12 North football titles. And those came against only the five other teams that make up that division.
By comparison, including tournament titles, Oklahoma has won a combined 45 championships and Oklahoma State 35. OU fields 18 men's and women's teams in Big 12 play, while OSU has 16.
Here's what underachieving Mizzou really wants to keep quiet: It's the only Big 12 school with single-digit championships. Yup, Baylor, the league's so-called weakest link, has captured a combined 36 championships.
Yes, the argument being posited here is that Missouri is actually running away from the XII. Like, the Mizzou AD is saying "Man, I'd really like to stay in the Big XII, but our women's track team just isn't up to par. It's a blight on the entire school. We have no choice but to leave this conference at once!" Now, if they were joining the MWC or C-USA or whatever, there might be some merit to that argument. But they'd be joining the Big Ten. And while the warm-weather sports (baseball/softball, track) are clearly going to be better off in Texas and the rest of Tornado Alley than the Rust Belt, it's not like Missouri would have a prayer in something like wrestling or women's volleyball. They might do well in, let's say, baseball, but come on. Missouri's not going to the Big Ten so they can do better in baseball. Oh, but we're just getting started.
The article goes on to suppose that Missouri's failures to win championships in most of the minor sports is actually why the Big Ten would court them:
Nebraska, the other Big 12 school reportedly on the Big Ten's hit list, has won a combined 76 championships, which is second only to Texas' massive haul.
No wonder Big Ten coaches are in favor of adding Missouri, but want nothing to do with overachieving Nebraska.
First of all, that second paragraph is totally unsubstantiated. We've literally seen nothing that would suggest BXI coaches don't want to add Nebraska. Second of all, it's completely ass-backwards; Nebraska is probably more likely to get a call from the Big Ten, if only because they'd bring more money to the conference. They'd do that by being popular, and you stay popular by competing for championships. The Big Ten actually wants that.
And third, it's a completely irrelevant point to begin with; the Big Ten is primarily concerned with A) adjusting to the changing demographics of the nation and B) boosting the ratings of the Big Ten Network as high as possible. All this while maintaining the reputation of the conference as a powerful academic consortium. Just because the Big XII only cares about athletics doesn't mean the Big Ten does too. So even if the Big Ten coaches are afraid of Nebraska (and they're not), it doesn't even matter; the schools' presidents are going to be the ones voting on new members, not the coaches or athletic directors.
When an athletic program wins only eight championships in 14 years, that's the kind of creampuff foe conference members want on their schedules.
Exactly. Which is why we've seen countless instances of BCS conferences adding underqualified, underachieving schools. We still can't believe Middle Tennessee State and Florida International are in the SEC.
Plus, considering the Big Ten's goals stated above, it's pretty much a given that they'll at least put some feelers out for Texas and hope for the best, especially since Delany's not going to cry in a corner if Texas says no. So if the Big Ten is really only looking for patsies, as this article would have its readers believe... why on earth would it also set its sights on the conference's two most decorated members? At what point does that logic add up?
This is a hit piece by the Tulsa World, plain and simple. It's bitter, uninformed, and provincial. It's the type of childish nonsense that always accompanies messy breakups. And boy, are those people fun to be around. Congratulations, TW: you're the journalistic equivalent of the guy by himself at the end of the bar on a Tuesday night who just yells "hate that stupid bitch!" every 45 minutes or so.
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You see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Is this your homework, Larry? Is this your homework, Larry?
by HawkeyeRecon on May 19, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That's just, like, Tulsa World's opinion, man.
by telepathetic on May 19, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
dave shittler has ruined my evening.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on May 19, 2010 6:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This gif is visual interpertation of that article
Logic/Reason/Intelligence is the windshield……the Okie is the fat bearded man

I didn't know Mark Mangino moved to Oklahoma.
Looks like the aerobics of windshield decimation are starting to have a positive effect.
"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid
by HawkOnRails on May 20, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It's true.
On the bright side…it’s better than driving through Kansas. Barely.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 19, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Seem pretty equivalent
GIS for ‘driving through kansas’

For ‘driving through texas’:

Associate Dean
Blackshoe Diaries University
driving through Nebraska is no picnic either...
last week I drove through the state on my way to my temporary home of Wyoming, after Omaha, there isn’t anything worth mentioning and Lincoln is seems about the same size as Indianola, not to mention there was road work every 20 miles and nobody was ever working, on the plus side the speed limit is 75 throughout most of the state.
Tigers love pepper... they hate cinnamon.
by White Lightning on May 19, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
three things, if you were curious
(no, i’m not trying to defend nebraska, really just giving you information if you were curious)
a) it’s like a 15 year plan to widen the Interstate to three lanes each way from omaha to lincoln, sucks, but it’s better
b) they aren’t working due to budget shortfalls, or something like that
c) I-80 follows the Platte River which is super flat land by nature. yeah it’s boring, but really, the rest of the state isn’t so boring
d) I-80 goes faaaar North of Lincoln. LIncoln has about 250,000 people
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Fun fact
A topographical study showed that Kansas is, in fact, flatter than a typical pancake. Not true of Texas, though some sections of it are obviously boring as hell. (The area west of Austin is not really on any of the major thoroughfares, but it’s very hilly.)
The photo is West Texas. It is a lot like TCU football to the most of the state. Irrelevant.
by dimecoverage on May 20, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember when that story broke
it was the highlight of my day, and I made sure everyone saw it.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 20, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure that's the type of story
that could ever be described as “breaking.”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 21, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I drive to kansas every day for work
& all the kansas fans cry that they’re not getting any expansion love. :(
whatever. I think is hilarious. Speaking of hilarious, that guy at 810am sports in KC still refuses to eat any crow over last weeks “mu,nd, neb, rutgers have all been invited” news release.
We"ve all boycotted his radio show during his hours.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on May 19, 2010 6:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If you think that is bad
You clearly haven’t read this little number from the Press-Register (Every Day Should Be Saturday and Adam Ritenberg both linked to it today).
Wow……..just…….Wow
What gets me about all of this is that Delaney hasn’t even garaunteed expansion, he has just said we are looking at it as a possibility. The press has blown this waaaaaaaay out of proportion by suggesting that it is a done deal and the Big Ten is going to turn into a mega conference and destroy college football as we know it. Honestly, I can’t tell whether the mediais doing this to substantiate some narrative as the Big Ten as angry villain or if they just have no fucking clue as to what else to write,but in the words of Jon Stewart, “”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2YK7pADmWU" >Go Fuck Yourselves".
http://victorypolka.blogspot.com/
I think someone linked that article in the comments a day or so ago
But yeah, the delusion of that writer is only topped by his bitter jealously.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on May 19, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
And the only thing that tops that
are the comments. That makes for some fun reading.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 19, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, well...
…this is the same media that will break into a highly rated t.v. or sports show to bring you “breaking news” and then spend the entire interruption saying “we don’t have any details yet, but clearly this is a big story.”
And I’m not talking about one channel, I mean all television news reporters talking shouting heads. News is dead, as is “fact” and we are all now tasked with sifting through the bullshit to get to actual information.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 20, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Pro tip
Take it from someone who’s spent most of their life in a state where the “writer” in question was (and remains) the most powerful media presence in the, uh, state: if you can see that the URL has the word “finebaum” in it, DO NOT CLICK. Obvious troll is obvious, or would be if he didn’t have the newspaper platform from which to troll, anyway.
Terrible article
BHGP favorite Pat Forde has a similar article today that is written with, only slightly, less contempt and derision for the idea of the Big Ten being powerful enough to alter the football landscape. I don’t necessarily disagree with Forde’s thoughts, but the derisive manner in which he presents them really rubs one the wrong way. I have no doubt that if it was the SEC who was considering expansion to 16 teams and thus fundamentally altering college football’s landscape that Forde would be singing the praises and lauding the SEC for being “innovative” and bringing about needed changes to the college football structure. The cognitive dissonance required by these guys to refuse to acknowledge the amazing position the Big Ten is in is truly staggering.
Oh well, fuck ’em.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on May 20, 2010 7:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, saw that
His argument seems to be more fear-based, though, like “please don’t do this to college football, the status quo is good enough!” Which, whatever.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on May 21, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't have the stomach to actually read Sittler's piece...
… much less the stomach to properly eviscerate it. To you, Adam:
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Okies
hate being second fiddle to Texas. I mean HATE it. But now, to imply they are behind Nebraska and, holy fuck you batman MISSOURI!!!
Hey, just because Okie State is a tier 3 University lukcy enough to have T. Boone Pickens writing checks is no reason to say they’re worse than Missouri.
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
I am kinda curious if some of the Big Ten coaches don't want Nebraska
Just for recruiting. Pelini has taken some 4 star guys out of Ill. and Ohio over the last couple of years and Nebraska doesn’t have many recruits to provide (and the 3 to 4 viable CF recruits Nebraska does have usually UNL gets) Whereas Missou is offers more recruiting opportunities and, well, historically is less of a draw for recruits.
I can't imagine that being the case.
Coaches know they just have to beat Nebraska at home and they’ll be able to play the trump card all year long. Nebraska was a national power, but is now no better than Wisconsin/Iowa/Penn State.
Plus, some coaches might enjoy the flipside of recruiting kids from Nebraska. The Hawks have done pretty well with kids from Omaha, I can’t see why other programs wouldn’t want to make inroads into Nebraska, as well.
by The Mexican't on May 19, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
If a coach gets to this level, his response to the idea of increased levels of competition isn’t going to be to eschew it, it’s to welcome it as a sign that his team and he himself are on a higher level now. It’s foolhardy and potentially ruinous, but it makes sense.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Foolhardy and potentially ruinous often makes sense
Usually, tho, booze are involved.
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Blackshoe Diaries University
war were declared
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on May 19, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Bucket
I swear every time I’m reminded of Futurama, you’ve already made the response I was thinking of. Also, I miss your Bender sig.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on May 19, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Having lived in Tulsa for three years
I know Oklahomans can be provincial, but usually Tulsa was a little sharper than that. I think it just reflects the depth of the turmoil about expansion.
I know this is potentially a big thing, but the rumors and shock waves are something to behold. If “the timetable” remains, it may only get wilder. I still think that if Delany is serious about big expansion, the timing period has to do with the rest of the college football world coming to terms with it. We shall see, but after all this, it would be hilarious if the equivalent of “Nah, just messin’ with ya, we’re sticking with 11” was the result.
A fella steps out for a two pound burrito and all hell breaks loose.
OUTSTANDING, thank you
I like you Big Ten folks more every day, and like my (psuedo) B12 brethren, or at least the more pissy panted ones like this dip-sheet, even less.
Funny thing is, MU has gathered most of those titles in the last five years. We have underachieved, somewhat, overall, but this article is firmly based in 1998- not today. Softball, won B12 last year, in champ. this year. Soccer (womens), won it last year. Baseball, in champ. last year. Won B12 North twice in last three years, and was one game short of a NC berth in 2007 (with #1 ranking- how mediocre!). Wrestling and gymnastics teams went to NCAA tourneys (whatever the term is for the ‘last group playing for NC’ in those sports, not sure what the official terms are) this year, meaning basically both were top 10 in the country.
But this is very much in the spirit of the Big 12, where backstabbing furiously while talking nice about our dear conference brethren is the rule.
Welcome to the Big Ten
Yeah, I know…a bit premature, but still inevitable I think.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 19, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
one of thr guys at work seems
To think mizzou has an “outstanding” swimming program, & a “pretty damn good” wrestling program.
I cannot speak of the tiger swim program, & well, I’m guessing mizzou might win 2 or 3 weights (Ross?) Vs. Brands boys, but other than the recent resurgence of the bball program, & occasionally MEH gary pinkel squds, I’m guessing middle of the pack football, & 4th place bball finishes.
Maybe I’m wrong.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on May 19, 2010 6:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I couldn't really say how good the Mizzou wrestling program is.
I know they typically have a few standout guys, but I think they struggle to have good depth across multiple weight classes.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That might change once they're in the BXI, though.
Theoretically.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Yeah, probably.
Despite the increase in competition, they’d have exposure in fertile recruiting areas and more coverage in general thanks to the BTN. I don’t know if they would get good enough to challenge the balance of power necessarily, but they could certainly be a very solid program.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Wait for it
Put “The JoPa Chronicles” in the search bar and let me know if you still want in.
If the Big Ten is looking to expand, the question isn't what schools will join, it's what the Big Ten will call itself afterwords.
What do you mean...
…I think we should have Texas read The JoePa Chronicles- – they’d be in after the second one. In fact, I’m surprised The JPC hasn’t caused world peace yet (except in Spain of course).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 20, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
that pic of Jesus
must’ve been taken during the Indiana game. Or other times where Ricky went full retard.
by Pain in the Sash on May 19, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
You know it's funny
because 8 is the number of championships Northwestern has. From a century of being in the conference. Bravo
You had me at
Jesus facepalm.
Maize n Brew
Because Football is Better with Beer
by Maize n Brew Dave on May 20, 2010 12:06 AM CDT reply actions
Dear God
Please, if you must take anyone, take the entire state of Oklahoma, and make a rule that the vomit their newspapers produce can only be seen, read, or heard on the Big Ten Network.
You ain't hurt...
W-wait
Peter, we don’t want that at all. Why do you hate us so?
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on May 20, 2010 11:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Big Ten's priorities
the Big Ten is primarily concerned with A) adjusting to the changing demographics of the nation and B) boosting the ratings of the Big Ten Network as high as possible.
Never forget C) Adding more Congresscreatures to the “must legislate money to the CIC” fold, which Missouri provides
No alarms and no surprises please.

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