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No, Missouri Is Not A "Done Deal"; Also, the Big East May Be Suicidal

We had to roll our eyes this morning when we saw over at Rock M Nation that KOMU--the (student-run) NBC affiliate in Columbia--was reporting that Missouri's move to the Big Ten was "a done deal." We're not mad at Rock M, of course; if someone's breaking news like that, you owe it to your readers to pass it along, even if you think it's a bad report (see our reaction to KCJJ's report that Lickliter would be resigning for health reasons last month).

No, the real laugher is that KOMU's "source" on this was an ESPN podcast, in which Scott Van Pelt, Bruce Feldman, and Pat Forde discussed Big Ten expansion. Let's even do KOMU a favor and forget the fact that nobody in the course of that conversation ever even approaches confirming the move. Here's what KOMU was assuming: that someone at ESPN was sitting on the first big break of expansion news, but decided to bury the news in the middle of some podcast. And hey, no offense to any of the three panelists, but ESPN would never treat a big story like that. Ever.

KOMU has since retracted, of course, and we're back where we started, and where we've been since the BXI even announced plans to expand in the first place: square one. This brings the media's track record in breaking any new information on Big Ten expansion to roughly 0-423. Really, there are exactly three sources of information to trust when it comes to getting any information on the Big Ten's plans:

  1. The conference itself
  2. An official statement from a school's athletic department
  3. Just kidding, there is no number three, it's just those two

So when Tom Freaking Dienhart tweets something like this:

Big Ten expansion buzz has league adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse and splitting into four, four-team divisions. / The Big Ten divisions: Syra, Pitt, Rut., Penn St.--Mich., Wisc., Mich. St., Mnn.--Ohio St., Pur., IU, Ill./North.--MU, Iowa, Neb., Ill./NU.

It's not that Dienhart is necessarily incorrect, it's that he's working off no good information. He's either A: guessing and passing it off as "buzz," B: listening to someone else who's guessing and passing it off as "buzz," C: just plain ripping off mgoblog and passing it off as "buzz." There is no reason to listen to him or anybody else doing this.

Star-divide

So while we're not going to shut down Big Ten expansion talk here--it's still a fascinating topic, and we'll gladly talk about who should be invited--we're not going to deal with anonymous rumors any longer. Based on the role the media have played thus far, if someone tells a newspaper that Team X or Insert University Here is all but confirmed to join the conference, and they won't even attach their name to the rumor, we must assume it's completely false until proven otherwise. I've known drug addicts that were more reliable than the Tribune.

Now, as for people actually going on the record, there was a very interesting piece by the Norwich Terrier Bulletin (terrorist fist jab: ESPN's Big East blog), saying that--per UConn coach Randy Edsall--the rest of the Big East football coaches are sick of Notre Dame's schtick:

Q: Should a football ultimatum be given to Notre Dame soon?

A: I think that’s something the powers that be are discussing in terms of the strategies that they’re looking at to be proactive rather than reactive.

Note: In a question-and-answer session with the audience, Edsall said the football coaches have been asking the conference to deliver an ultimatum to Notre Dame to come into the conference for football or get out entirely for the last two years. He added that, if as speculated, two teams leave for the Big Ten, "the Big East is all done."

Now, there's no telling whether the conference is going to act on that suggestion, but if it does, you can write Notre Dame to the Big Ten in with pen. After all, as independent as they like to be on the gridiron, the rest of their sports are going to need some serious support--opponents, TV deals, you know, the stuff that comes with conference affiliation. And wouldn't you know it, there's a conference that's willing to take on those Notre Dame teams and has its own massively revenue-generating network and will let Notre Dame play Michigan and Michigan State and Purdue all they want! What are the odds on that one??

ESPN speculates that perhaps practically handing the Big Ten Notre Dame like that will sate the conference's hunger for Big East teams (since there's no chance in Catholic hell that the Irish acquiesce to an ultimatum like that from the Big East), and that the Big East's survival may very well depend on such a deal. As it stands, after all, the conference can't stand to lose a football school, much less two or more. 

That strategy backfired pretty spectacularly on Neville Chamberlain (this analogy makes Jim Delany Hitler, of course, so let's not pursue it that far), though, and it's unlikely to do the Big East any favors. After all, if the Big Ten is handed a piece of leverage like Notre Dame, it can practically name whatever other expansion schools it may want. Syracuse and Pitt? Done. Nebraska? All aboard. Texas and Texas A&M? Gladly. The Supreme Court? Hey, you wouldn't know it by looking at him, but Scalia can ball. Filthy post moves. The point is this: if you give the Big Ten Notre Dame, it's like giving a hobo money. It only makes you a giver and it doesn't solve anything. So give us the Irish. Give. GIIIIIIIIVE.

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Despite being a university incredibly proud of its J-School...

Mizzou alums are turning on their own today.

Horribly, horribly irresponsible stuff from KOMU this morning.

by RPT on Apr 29, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

And now...

Feldman confirms the report isn’t true. KOMU seems to be the only ones unwilling to debunk this.

by RPT on Apr 29, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, so let me get this straight

KOMU is a student-run NBC affiliate. Isn’t Mizzou a top journalism school? This example certainly does not illustrate that.

by HawkgirlSTL on Apr 29, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not a "student-run" affiliate...

…so much as an affiliate that is owned by the university and gives students major opportunities. Not that that really makes a difference here, but I thought I’d clarify. It’s pretty clear that everybody associated with Mizzou (and Pittsburgh, since they went through the whole “OMG THEY’RE CALLING A TEAM MEETING WITH THE FOOTBALL TEAM BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING TO THE BIG TEN” thing a while back) is trying to position themselves to be the first one to break the story when it happens, but like Adam said … saying something in the middle of a podcast isn’t going to be how ESPN or the Big Ten break a “done deal.”

by Bill C. on Apr 29, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mizzou is the top J-school

I was surprised by the report. Im pretty sure they said it was just speculation though.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Apr 30, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ruth Bader Ginsburg...

…throws ’bows like Bill Laimbeer, and Sonia Sotomayor hits unfathomably long threes (and pees in hotel lobbies) like Chris Kingsbury.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 29, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

She's also a hell of a deep threat from the tight end position.

Nothing like a 2 sport athlete.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Apr 29, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a little unfair to the rest of us

to preemptively use the hotel lobby joke alongside the initial Kingsbury reference. What am I supposed to use now that the go-to Kingsbury response is off the board? I feel like the Vikings that time they couldn’t decide who to draft and two teams picked ahead of them.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Apr 29, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

didnt he take a piss in hospital ramp 4

I thought I remember seeing a memorial plaque up at the spot back when I worked for UI parking.

by Internet Legend on Apr 29, 2010 2:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We should start an official walking tour...

…of all the places C.K. pissed. Of course it would have to finish in the Ped Mall area, otherwise (after stopping at all of the fine drinking establishments) the tour would be too drunk to make it up to the fourth floor Reinow lounge (or the nearby Slater elevator/urinal).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 29, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

And we have no idea who the Obama adminstration is going to get a LOI from to fill Stevens' spot

I think Elana Kagan looks like she would be a beast in the post. Think Jayne Appel with shorter hair.

by PackerHawk on Apr 29, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Thomas

Is clearly the most athletic of the bunch, but don’t count out Roberts who is inexplicably fast.

by Hawklyn on Apr 29, 2010 3:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Sotamoyer

has some nasty, mean moves on the wrestling mat. Former state champ in two weight classes but no Div 1 schools would offer a scholarship to a girl. Also, she drak like a fish

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Apr 29, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you mean

“scrappy”

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Apr 29, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's how we'll know

the Big 10 has reached a decision. And I’d like to stress that I am 100% convinced they will expand.

One Sunday, maybe Saturday, next spring, Delaney will announce a press conference in Chicago on Monday.

Anything else out of Alvarez or anybody else is a staged leak, probably to pressure somebody to make a decision. It probably won’t be a lie, but it also won’t convey much actual info since we won’t know the context. Kinda like “Texas was not on that list”. Well, is that because they are out of the picture or because they don’t need to be on that list.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Apr 29, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

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