Greg McDermott Accepts Offer At Creighton; Holy Hell, Iowa State, You Are A Mess
by Adam Jacobi on Apr 26, 2010 12:00 AM CDT
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PrintFor those not particularly interested in Pac-10 or MVC basketball, Dana Altman left Creighton to run off to Oregon--at least until they start duck-calling, anyway, at which point he'll flee back to Creighton in terror.
No matter to us, really, for obvious reasons... until you hear that Creighton had their eyes on Iowa State's very own failwhale, Greg McDermott. Stop laughing. They meant it. He was good at UNI, you know! Not... not "beat Kansas" good, but whatever. Here was the report from WOI earlier today.
And now KCCI is reporting it's already a done deal, with McDermott accepting a 10-year, $9 million deal. The timing comes right after McDermott hired former Cyclone great Jeff Grayer and Iowa Energy coach Nick Nurse to assistant coaching deals; no word on their status, but one must imagine that they'd be well served following McDermott to the B-Jays.
One thing we know for sure: Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard should be a mountain of fun these next couple days. Remember last time he had a money-sport head coach that nobody could seriously imagine fielding competing offers, then lost that coach anyway? Then just for good measure, he completely lost his shit too? Remember that?
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Wow
1. After all this time, the best Phil Knight could come up with is Altman? What a mishandled fiasco at Oregon.
2. Another guy rescued that didn’t deserve rescuing.
3. When’s the last time the three major coaches in a program bolted in a year and a half, when each was totally unexpected because two of them had awful records and the third was thought to be a lifer coach because he’s your prized alum? At least the Michigan pillaging of West Virginia took successful coaches, but this? It ought to be an interesting coaching search. Train wreck that it is, though, if Pollard rebounds anything like he did with Rhoads, he’ll look like an inept genius. But first, maybe a few fascinating days of ineptitude.
Time for Bloodpunch to have some fun.
I can see the Gadsden Purchase from my back yard.
I knew this Oregon thing would turn out hillariously as soon as they did that rambling report about Izzo.
"I want your money, but I don't want your two cents." - JVP
by ReadingRambler on Apr 27, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Oregon is...
not the plum job it seems. People whine about everything up there. You can’t let Phil Knight build you a $200 million arena or buy out a sham of an athletic director for $3 million without citizens coming out of the woodwork to bitch about it.
I was going to say that I don’t see Altman making Oregon seriously competitive, but then I remembered it is the Pac 10. You have UCLA, maybe Washington, maybe Cal, maybe ASU, and not much else right now. And for some reason, Portland and the rest of Oregon seem to put out more than their fair share of highly-rated high school basketball players.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Apr 27, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Everything in college sports is cyclical.
The Pac 10 was staggeringly bad this year, but there is an embarrassment of talent on the West Coast. Howland, Sendak, Romar and Miller are all terrific coaches and I wouldn’t bet against Wazzou, Stanford and Cal putting together good squads in the near future. Certainly, that doesn’t help Altman, but I wouldn’t decry the Pac 10 as uncompetitive. Remember, the Big Ten sucked at football two years ago.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 27, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly this kinda sucks
McDermott was on the way out anyway, so him deciding to leave on his own is about the best thing that could have happened to ISU. It’ll hurt them this year since it’s happening so late, but long term it should be a good thing.
This just in:
Paul Rhodes leave Iowa State for Western Illinois.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
This would blow.
It’s nice to not have a doucher coach on the opposing sideline for the Cy-Hawk games.
I wish them nothing but the worst:
any school with the sad-sack profile of ISU who would run off a class act like Dan McCarney after he built the program to its highest level of success deserves years of bad karma. Sounds a lot like a certain basketball program I support…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 26, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
ISU(ck) Athletics
The comedy gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving.
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
Just awesome
Hating ISU is one thing. But laughing at their implosion is another. Pollard just makes it so easy though, so what are you going to do?
Derm knew the 411. He knew this was going to be his bottoming out year, and knew that he was going to be fired regardless. So why not be smart?
Fail #3 for Pollard. Or #12 if you take into account the other awesome things he’s done.
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by mikjones24 on Apr 26, 2010 7:15 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
This will be the ninth
head coach that Jamie has hired in the three major sports since he got there. Other than Rhoads (who the jury is still out on) and Sanderson, they’ve all been failures in some fashion. Should be interesting to see who they can get this late in the game, and whether or not Nick Nurse and Jeff Grayer go with him.
I will say this though – if deciding to bolt nearly a month after the Final 4 is something of a “fuck you” move by McDermott, I say bravo sir – bravo indeed.
Nine? Really?
I remember that he hired Chizik, Rhoads, Sanderson, Jackson, Morgan, McDermott, and the new BB coach, but who are the other two?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'm looking forward to the spin on this one -
from both Pollard and the Cyclone Fanatic psychotics.
Should be fun.
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
Yep
The countdown to fans saying “we never really wanted him” and “he was never a cyclone” has begun.
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They actually didn't want him though
They were saying that long before this happened. He was probably getting fired next year barring a miracle.
Please make this happen
I’m looking at you, Angry Running Back Hating God, you owe us a solid.
"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy
A quick glance at Clone Chronicles
shows they’ve gotten 2 bball recruits over the weekend. Umm, yeah, guys, what I told you about being the coach, yeah. Not so much. Sorry about that.
It never gets to be easy
don't forget to practice up on this drinking technique
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Apr 26, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
A poster on Clone Chronicles
actually suggested that Billy Gillispie has already been contacted to replace McDermott per some CBS report.
Tigers love pepper... they hate cinnamon.
by White Lightning on Apr 26, 2010 9:08 AM CDT reply actions
that's what you do when you get dumped
You say you already have some other poon already lined up to go, and that other girl was a bitch anyway.
in a couple hours they’ll be crying in the corner and texting greg furiously to get him back
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Apr 26, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Quick game of telephone, anyone?
Gary Parrish (who looks disturbingly like The Miz) said last night to “not be surprised” if Gillispie gets considered, as there are some people in the ISU AD’s office who like him. There is no way that happens, only because they fired a guy for drinking two coaches ago and are afraid of rank hypocrisy even more than they are afraid of winning.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Apr 26, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Was going to say that exact thing. How can you fire a guy for being an alcoholic and then considering hiring another?
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In that case, I hope it happens.
Or that he gets an interview, at least.
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on Apr 26, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't wait for this press conference
If it’s 5% of the Chizik presser it will make my summer. I may need to just drive up to it and see it in person.
by Internet Legend on Apr 26, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions
Yea
I hope you enjoy it. I’m glad the ’Clones can give you a temporary distraction from your own train wreck of a basketball program. By the way, good luck with the latest flash in the pan mid-major coaching experiment, the last one worked our really well…
Rumor has it Alex Brown keeps Chris Simms' right index finger in his back pocket for good luck.
Better a train wreck than a nuclear meltdown.
As for Coach Fran, we’ll see in a few years when he’s got Iowa back in the top half of the Big Ten and playing in the NCAA tournament,and you’re playing to avoid the cellar of the MAC since the Big Ten expanded and destroyed the Big XII.
LIttle siblings are so cute.
by DonnyDonovan on Apr 26, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't feed the trolls...
…they’re unpredictable when backed into a corner or with their leg caught in a trap.
“Inconsolable” is all that needs to be said.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 26, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It's comments like these that keeps comments like mine
funny, timely, and unceasing.
by Internet Legend on Apr 26, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
We indeed live in interesting times...
In McD’s case, he’s probably doing a ‘Fraud to save himself, but I can’t see any compelling reason why Altman is going to experience ANY success at Oregon.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Apr 26, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions
Clone Fans
Trust me on this, I am one, but most fans are absolutely thrilled. We understand that the timing could not have possibly been worse, but really it would make sense that after his utter disaster of a tenure he would leave and decimate the short term prospects of the program.
Transfers
I’m guessing all five recruits leave because the assistant coach TJ Otzelberger is almost 100% sure to be gone. The other five players are seniors or have used their redshirts. Doubt any of them leave.
They could recruit 3 guys or so, go into the season with 8 scholarship players, and then recruit an absolutely massive class in 2011 with heaps of playing time to offer. Next year was going to suck regardless.
"Next year was going to suck regardless."
Get your own working-through-the-pain statement.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 26, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The the Cloneswere smart...(it's hypothetical)...they would go hire
Norm Roberts. He was screwed by St. Johns, the most impossible job in the country. He is a former Kansas workhorse. He would take the job. (that last part is a big deal)
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Something about getting stoned in glass houses....
I forget how that saying goes, but the dude from Pizza Pit is on the front porch and he needs $20.
I have the same fashion sense as Tom Arnold.
If Barta and SUI had the track record that Pollard and ISU have for departing coaches
Then yes, you’d be right to call out Hawkeye fans who are opening laughing and pointing fingers at this. The only correlation is that both of our basketball programs are, ahem, in a state of transition.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Apr 26, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, we fired our coach and didn't lose our most coveted alum to another school.
Meanwhile, Chizik left in the middle of the night, McDermott left for an MVC school and Cael Sanderson bailed and took his Utah pipeline with him. Comparing the current coaching situations at Iowa State and Iowa is laughable.
by The Mexican't on Apr 26, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Succinctly put
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Apr 26, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Nick Nurse
was my first sports hero. He went to the high school that my dad teaches at and I attended. He led his team (a small Catholic school in western Iowa) to the 4A title when I was 5 years old against teams that were decidedly bigger and more athletic than his. My uncle said that, to this day, he has never seen one player take a team on his shoulders and will them to a win like Nurse did in the championship game. He then starred at UNI, and has had a fairly successful coaching career. Through all of this, he has remained relatively close to my dad, and always takes time out to talk to my family members whenever they happen to cross paths.
He is a great person and coach, and I wish him the best of luck no matter what. What a way to start your DI coaching career! I hope it gets better and more stable for him as it goes along.
by shada's revenge on Apr 26, 2010 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
I'm too lazy to look it up
Did Nurse go to CB-St. Alberts? That’s the only western Catholic school I can think of off the top of my head.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Yep should have known that, forgot about that one
I grew up in Clarinda, so we played them in all sorts of sports
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Goddamn, I'd forgotten how fun(ny) that Obamicon thread was...
"Enough of your borax, Poindexter! We need action!"
by Bucketochicken on Apr 26, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
ahahahahahaha they hired Fred Hoiberg
Who, last I checked, has like half a season of coaching experience. At least Nick Nurse was kicking ass in the DL.
They certainly could have done worse
I mean, they hired a notable alum with obvious ties to the university. Hoiberg also had a pretty decent NBA career and was serving as VP of Operations for the Timberwolves, so he definitely knows the game.
And the most important thing is – they hired him 24 hours after McD left, so they didn’t have to go through a multiple week search like Oregon and now can start bringing back the program right away.
I can’t believe I defended ISU there, but I like Hoiberg and think he will be good for them.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Apr 27, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He's basically never coached
A major conference school is not the place to learn on the job. I’m sure he knows that game, but there’s a big gap between that and knowing how to coach it, which he’s never done one any significant level.
Also I’m not sure he’s an especially great front office guy, judging by some of the moves the T-Wolves have made during his tenure.
Basically, this is the BJ Armstrong to Iowa rumor
Only it actually happened. And didn’t we all agree that that would have been a ridiculous bad hire? Just go with Nurse if you want to go with an alumni and get it done quickly. At least he’s coached.
Don't you go and insult my Timberwolves
they’ll be good again…sometime…I hope…maybe…
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Apr 27, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
As someone pointed out in another thread
Half-joking, but still an important question: What if you Hoiberg doesn’t succeed and you have to fire him? That is liable to split the fanbase, perhaps irrepably for 10-15 years. Granted this is getting way ahead of things, but is a key question. It looks like Pollard, again, went for a quick answer, without really doing any homework. And this is the real problem with Pollard, he seems to have no long-term vision for ISU (despite his delusions of grandeur about Iowa being a Cyclone state), he’s more obsessed with winning the news cycle with his personnel decisions, not building any kind of solid foundation for the school
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
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