Big Ten Tournament Saturday Results and Open Thread
by RossWB on Mar 6, 2010 9:30 AM CST
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"It’s time to go. You can only train so much and then – there’s a lot of analogies you can use – you’ve got to let the horse run, let the lion hunt, let the sniper zero in."
-- Tom Brands, from Andy Hamilton's blog
Session I (including both the first-round "pigtail" matches and the quarterfinal matches) begins at 10am CST. No TV coverage or online streams, so you'll have to make do with radio coverage (KXIC if you're in or around Iowa City; Hawkeye All-Access ($) via the intewebs otherwise) or liveblogs/Twitter updates. Liveblogs: Andy Hamilton at Hawk Central; KJ Pilcher at the Gazoo. Twitter: (P-C) Andy_Hamilton, (Gazoo) kjpilcher, (DI) jtbugos and rcyou, and bigtenchamps.
SATURDAY SCHEDULE/RESULTS
Session I
"Pigtail" matches:
125: #2 Matt McDonough PIN (4:33) Brenan Lyon (MSU)
141: #3 Montell Marion MAJ DEC (14-5) Mark Weber (MICH)
165: #2 Ryan Morningstar MAJ DEC (8-0) Jason Martin (PUR)
174: #1 Jay Borschel PIN (3:53) Nick Avery (IND)
Hwt: #2 Dan Erekson MAJ DEC (9-1) Martin Smith (ILL)
Quarterfinal Results
125: #2 Matt McDonough DEC (13-5) #7 John Deneen (ILL)
133: #2 Dan Dennis DEC (4-0) #7 Ian Paddock (OSU)
141: #3 Montell Marion DEC (7-5) #6 Juan Archuleta (PUR)
149: #1 Brent Metcalf PIN (1:08) #8 Nick Bertucci (PUR)
157: #4 Jake Kerr DEC (5-3) #5 Sean Nemec (OSU)
165: #2 Ryan Morningstar DEC (3-0) #7 Cody Yohn (MIN)
174: #1 Jay Borschel DEC (2-0) #8 Justin Zeerip (ILL)
184: #3 Phil Keddy MAJ DEC (14-4) #6 Kaleb Young (MIN)
197: #1 Chad Beatty DEC (6-0) #8 Cody Magrum (OSU)
Hwt: #2 Dan Erekson PIN (1:17) #7 Ben Apland (MICH)
TEAM STANDINGS (thru Session I)
1) IOWA — 93 pts
2) PENN STATE — 59 pts
3) MINNESOTA — 56.5 pts
4) WISCONSIN — 47.5 pts
5) OHIO STATE — 46 pts
6) MICH STATE — 28 pts
7) ILLINOIS — 22 pts
8) INDIANA — 20 pts
9) PURDUE -- 18 pts
11) just NORTHWESTERN — 4 pts
NOTE: Semifinal action resumes tonight around 6pm CST.
Same rules apply as other open threads, so be nice. Let's do this.
TEAM SCORING BREAKDOWN
* 1st-16;2nd-12;3rd-10;4th-9; 5th-7;6th-6;7th-4;8th-3;
* Each fall, forfeit, default, disqualification-2;
* each advancement in championship round-1;
* each advancement in consolation round-1/2;
* tech fall (w/ near fall)-1 1/2;
* tech fall (w/o near fall)-1;
* major decision-1;
* bye followed by a win in championship-1;
* bye followed by a win in consolation-1/2.
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Prater doesn't make weight at 141.
Was a 5 seed for LOLlinois.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 6, 2010 9:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions
125: McD PIN (4:33) Lyon
Nice start. Sounds like he could have had the pin in R1, but the ref was dumb.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Their "live" is slower than Twitter or Hamilton.
But having a nice centralized source of results IS nice. Thanks.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Tengo pregunta...
How do they set the brackets for the national championships? Like.. Do they take the top 64 (or whatever) teams overall, then seed the wrestlers they have? Or do they take the top 64 wrestler at each weight, regardless of school?
I am not sure
but I know that the conference meets and some other regional qualifiers is how wrestlers qualify for nationals. And there isn’t a set number at each weight.
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Top 32 wrestlers at each weight, regardless of school.
If it was the former, Iowa would have zero difficulty qualifying all ten guys, since they are obviously the top team (by a wiiiide margin).
They use conference tourneys to determine most of the qualifiers (part of the reason said tourneys are so important), and then allocate the rest of the spots (called “wildcards”) after the tourneys. They have a formula to determine who’s deserving of the wildcard spots and they just pick guys who meet the criteria. I think they vote on borderline cases, too.
The whole “team scoring” and “team championship” aspect of wrestling is a little weird… it’s just an aggregation of individual results. All you can really do is try and get as many really good guys together on a team and let them go at it and hope they do well.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Which is exactly why Gable's championship streak is so absurd.
To keep reloading for 20 years is absolutely insane. I can’t even imagine what the rest of the country felt like while he was running the wrestling world.
by The Mexican't on Mar 6, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Gable was king.
I can’t even imagine what the rest of the country felt like while he was running the wrestling world.
“Second place isn’t so bad, right?”
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
2nd isn't bad
when your competition is a god
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 7, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
141: Marion win via maj dec (14-5) over Weber
Moves on to face #6 Juan Archuleta (PUR).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Just a reminder for the curious folk
Number of qualifiers for each weight are
125: 6
133: 5
141: 4 (because Prater missed weight)
149: 8
157: 4
165: 5
174: 6
184: 5
197: 7
Hwt: 5
CBS Hawkeye All Access Pass
Also has the radio feed.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 10:40 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Bertucci from Purdue won
And now takes on Metcalf in the quarterfinals. He may die
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 10:41 AM CST reply actions
Metcalf will get his revenge.
via @jtbugos
Nick Bertucci seals his fate: he beats Mark Boyer and death is now certain. He will face Brent Metcalf in the quarterfinals.
Tonight he dines in hell!!!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 6, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
Insert Metcalf decapitating Big 11 opponent name/photo
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 10:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
what time is the match?
I have to make sure I am present.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 6, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
moar funny pictures
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
UPSET ALERT
- Kurt Kinser (IND) went down to MSU’s Anthony Jones at 157.
So in theory Kerr’s path to qualification just got even easier.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kinser was #3 seed.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 10:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions
He can usually do this against crappy dudes.
It’s against the Readers, Sponsellers, Howes, etc. that he turtles up.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
174: Borschel PIN (3:53) Avery
Faces #8 Justin Zeerip (MICH) next.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Four matches down for the Hawks
2 pins and 2 majors. Good start!
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 10:54 AM CST reply actions
165 : Morningstar wins via major decision (8-0) over Jason Martin (PUR)
Next up: #7 Cody Yohn (MIN)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
im going to have to
break out the abacus if Iowa keeps piling on the points like this…
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 11:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am going to let the rulers of the intertubes
do the math for me.
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Somebody on Hamilton's blog said that Yohn withdrew
is this true?
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
I don't see any confirmation of that yet.
That would be some nice easy points for Iowa if that’s the case.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Another major dec for Iowa
Danimal wins 9-1
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 11:23 AM CST reply actions
HWT: Erekson wins via major decision (9-1) over Pisarcik (PUR)
Up next: #7 Ben Apland (MICH)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
125: McD wins via maj dec (13-5) over Deneen
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
141: Marion wins via dec (7-5) over Archuleta
Was down 3-0 early.
A little too nerve-wracking there…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
can someone update the
team score? I think Iowa is up by at least 2 Touchdowns?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 11:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Here's something, not sure how good it is
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
its says Iowa has 33 points
More than Licks’s team will score tomorrow.
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 11:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure about it, but..
I don’t think we’ll get points for the pigtails until we win the quarterfinal match (at each weight)?
I'll try and do it after the QFs
Too hard to do that and keep up with what’s going on.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Metcalf def. The Knee-To-The-Head Bandit via FALL (1:08)
VENGEANCE!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Vengeance indeed...
By the look on Bertucci’s face, he was in a lot of pain. I literally thought Metcalf was going to rip his arms out of his sockets.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Fail by decapitation?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 11:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
"I literally thought Metcalf was going to rip his arms out of his sockets"
This is not the first time someone has written or said this. Nor will it be the last time.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 6, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
excellent. Dominate
PIN
Smash
WIN
NEXT!
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
133: Dennis wins by dec. (4-0) over Paddock
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Just like to express my appreciation to everyone on here keeping things updated
As I will be checking in periodically to see the domination.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
157: Kerr wins via dec (5-3) over Nemec.
Iowa has five guys through into the semis tonight.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Have we ever had 10 guys qualify for NCAA's
It is way early, but it looks like Iowa has a better than average shot at getting all 10 guys into the national tourney.
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I don't have any facts to back this up, but I'm guessing Iowa has done it quite a few times.
Hawkeye fan, born and bred. And when I die, a Hawkeye dead.
I'm pretty sure they have, yeah.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
no losses correct?
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 6, 2010 12:06 PM CST reply actions
From @HawkeyeNation:
Ironside lamenting what they will talk about for first 90 minutes of tonights session 2 broadcast as no hawks expected in consos. Lol
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
174: Borschel wins via decision (2-0) over Zeerip
Not the most impressive result, but let’s never forget that Zeerip has “incredibly strong strength” per the BTN. So it’s like JayBo was wrestling the Incredible Hulk or something, really.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Good point.
Not a tremendously tremendous win, but no such thing as a bad win.
Hawkeye fan, born and bred. And when I die, a Hawkeye dead.
You're wrong
remember all the “bad wins” the football team had this year…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 6, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
The only bad win is one over Iowa State that does not sufficiently embarass them.
Hawkeye fan, born and bred. And when I die, a Hawkeye dead.
165: Morningstar wins via decision (3-0) over Yohn
Morningstar wins via decision? SHOCK!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
MorningstarSMASH!!!!!!
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 12:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Morningstar doesn't SMASH anyone.
He cuddles them to death.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That is as accurate description of Morningstar's wrestling as I've ever heard
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Mar 6, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
184: Keddy wins via major decision (14-4) over Young
Eight into the semis now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
make that 9
Beatty wins in his return
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Err... sorry
misread something… has a lead but it’s not over
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Now it's 9.
You were seeing into the future.
Hawkeye fan, born and bred. And when I die, a Hawkeye dead.
he sees 100 + team points
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 12:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
197: Beatty wins via decision (6-0) over Magrum
Nice return for Chad.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Not sure if this is up to date
But on http://www.nwcaonline.com/nwcaonline/results/colscorebook/LiveCvgMeets.aspx this is the standings so far:
Iowa 48.0
Wisconsin 30.0
Ohio State 29.0
Minnesota 27.0
Illinois 18.0
Purdue 17.0
Michigan St 16.0
Penn St 15.0
Indiana 13.0
Michigan 6.0
Northwestern 3.0
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 12:49 PM CST reply actions
race for second is in full swing
and looks like it will be close
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 6, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
3 teams in the thick of that race, yeah
Should be about the same as nationals, with ISU thrown in there
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Throw in Okie State and Cornell, too.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
14/14 actually
Iowa grapplers went 14-0 this morning with 4 falls and 4 major decisions
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Well, you know what I mean.
10 guys in the semis.
Jerkstore called, etc. etc.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
And they're all out of Ro-Tel?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 6, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I know
wasn’t trying to be dickish, just to emphasize the domination
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
The jerkstore is open on Saturdays?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 6, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
The Jerkstore is like Wal-Mart.
Open 24/7/365.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So
it’s basically Wal-Mart staffed by jNW grads? And without Wal-Mart’s usual cretinous pathos?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 6, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
That is probably the first time "pathos" has ever been used to describe Wal-Mart, in any context.
And a Wal-Mart staffed by jNWU grads? That’s just crazy — Armani’s not part of the attire there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I meant like their version of Wal-Mart
You know, like 5 Armani suits bundled for five grand or something. Valet parking, obviously.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 6, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Do they do a credit check to let you in the door?
Free tune-ups for your Ferrari?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That would be
dKny-Mart
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 6, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
is Iowa within striking distance of any scoring records?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
I think I read the points record is like 200
Which is basically impossible to reach. Iowa won like 9 titles that year. That’s all second-hand message board info though, so I’m not positive that it’s accurate.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 6, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
That is accurate - both the point total and the number of champions. 1983.
Hawkeye fan, born and bred. And when I die, a Hawkeye dead.
Make that 15/15.
We had five “pigtail” matches (125, 141, 165, 174, Hwt) and won them all. Bonus points in all of ’em too.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hmm
you are right… the page I was looking at must be fucked up
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Actually...
Iowa’s picked up bonus points in 9 of their 15 wins so far.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah
NWCA Online only has 14 of our matches listed. And only 8 of them had bonus points. I can’t find/remember the 15th/9th. So it’s possible that we have more than the 58 points they have us down for now.
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
HWT: Erekson wins via FALL (1:17) over Apland (MICH)
All ten Iowa guys in the semis tonight. Awesome.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Any rouch idea when the semis will start?
Thanks for keeping us up to date Ross and shada. I might need to grab an am/fm radio and actually listen to the broadcast.
The next session starts at 5pm CST.
But there’s going to be a bunch of consolation matches before the actual semifinal matches. Iowa, of course, has no one in those conso matches (because we are awesome)… so the first Iowa match won’t be for probably 60-90 minutes after that.
So 6-6:30pm CST tonight?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
i think Bluder's bunch plays Sparty @ 4pm?
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 1:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yep
The women are fun to watch too. I kind of feel like Iowa wrestling and women’s basketball are intrinsically linked——providing emergency relief from the pain of Iowa men’s basketball.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 6, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
i saw the women play @ kansas last yr
at the “24” hours of ESPN bball season kick off thingy. Nothing like a bunch of 11am drunk guys cheering for Hawkeye women bballersm.
They lost that game.
One of the guys @ wrk, his daughter is being recruited by Iowa out of Blue Springs, MO.
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 1:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Blue Springs, MO
of Ladell Betts fame, of course.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 6, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
I guess
any concerns about Iowa’s lack of dominance over its last two opponents was a little unwarranted.
Ankles! We don't need no stinking ankles!
by three and out the kok story on Mar 6, 2010 12:59 PM CST reply actions
Indiana and jNWU...
just went OT. Craptastic!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 6, 2010 1:02 PM CST reply actions
jNW 80/ hoosiers 88, final OT
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by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 2:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
TEAM STANDINGS
1) IOWA — 93 pts
2) PENN STATE — 59 pts
3) MINNESOTA — 56.5 pts
4) WISCONSIN — 47.5 pts
5) OHIO STATE — 46 pts
6) MICH STATE — 28 pts
7) ILLINOIS — 22 pts
8) INDIANA — 20 pts
9) PURDUE - 18 pts 16 pts
10) MICHIGAN -
11) just NORTHWESTERN — 4 pts
Who’s awesome? That’d be us.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Damn strikethroughs.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So Purdue lost their points
but Michigan lost their team? Ouch!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 6, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
And they're the host school!
That’s just mean.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
maybe the michigan wrestlers at the hockey game?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Was that supposed to read:
…“the michigan wrestlers are are the hockey game?”
or
“the michigan wreslter’s at the hockey game?”
because the second option would explain their point total.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 6, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Fail
option one should have “are at” not “are are”. Amazing.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 6, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
NCAA's
since we got all 10 in the semis and all weights take at least 4 are we guaranteed all qualifying??
Not yet, I think.
I think if guys were to lose tonight and then right away tomorrow, they may not finish high enough for auto-qualification — this is especially true for Kerr at 157.
Wins tonight obviously lock up qualification.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
can Iowa lock up the title tonite?
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2010 Big Ten Championships Team Standings
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/mich/sports/m-wrestl/auto_pdf/wrm-big-ten-brackets-2010.pdf
for those that like PDF and want to see the LOL consolation bracket.
props to ROSS of course.
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This may be presumptuous of me
but does it matter when we lock it up? It’s entirely obvious to me at this point that we will, and yeah probably tonight. What I am saying is, the much more pressing question is "Can we qualify 10? or even, “Can we qualify 10 for the semis?” If we do that, the team title will take care of itself.
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
fail on my part
We have already qualified 10 for the semis, I should have said, “Can we qualify 10 for the finals?”
by shada's revenge on Mar 6, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO
jNW has all 10 of there guys alive in the consolation bracket.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
They need hopes for something.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 6, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
My prediction:
8 in the finals (McD, Dennis, Marion, Metcalf, JayBo, Keddy, Beatty, Erekson) and 2 lose close (Kerr, M*). Iowa seals the title tonight.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
M* will beat Sponsellor
Ryan is an offensive juggernaut compared to Sponselor.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
So you got M* over Sponselor 1-0 in OT?
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Mar 6, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
The Hawkeyes need to be more dominant.
I’m just joking. I have been traveling and just checked the above thread from a public internet portal. I have just broken two Mississippi laws in 5 minutes; first by publicly ejaculating all over this pay interweb monitor and then by sharing a satisfying smoke with the nun sitting at the machine next to me. She is a huge Metcalf fan and fortunately carries a wad of spare tissues. Go Hawks.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
That's disgusting.
I mean, honestly, a nun smoking…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 6, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Are there any math wizzes out there who can calculate
Iowa worst case team point scenario and worst case NCAA qualifying scenario vs. Iowa best case team point and National qualifying scenarios. Off the top of my head the best case scenario has the Hawkeyes winning a buttload of points and qualifying 10 wrestlers but what is the worst case. Not to piss in the punchbowl but Iowa has, on occasion, come out flat after a great start; so it is not out of the realm of possibility that one or more guys lose their next two matches.
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Ross, new thread for tonite?
this one is pretty lucky so far, unless your a jNW fan.
Thanks.
Go Hawks
Dominate
PIN
WIN
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 2:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Video of Metcalf destroying Nick Bertucci
http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2010/3/6/1360161/video-brent-metcalf-erases-nick
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
SEMIFINAL MATCHES
125: #2 Matt McDonough vs. #3 Zach Sanders (MIN)
133: #2 Dan Dennis vs. #3 Franklin Gomez (MSU)
141: #3 Montell Marion vs. #2 Mike Thorn (MIN)
149: #1 Brent Metcalf vs. #4 Frank Molinaro (PSU)
157: #4 Jake Kerr vs. #1 Colton Salazar (PUR)
165: #2 Ryan Morningstar vs. #3 Colt Sponseller (OSU)
174: #1 Jay Borschel vs. #5 Jordan Blanton (ILL)
184: #3 Phil Keddy vs. #2 Dave Erwin (PSU)
197: #1 Chad Beatty vs. #5 Sonny Yohn (MIN)
Hwt: #2 Dan Erekson vs. #3 Cameron Wade (PSU)
All but the matches at 174 and 197 are rematches from earlier this season. McDonough swept Sanders in their two earlier meetings, Dennis beat Gomez in a narrow 3-2 decision, and Marion and Thorn split two matches (Thorn won via pin, Marion won via MAJ DEC). Metcalf pinned Molinaro, Kerr lost in OT to Salazar, and Morningstar edged Sponseller 1-0. Keddy lost to Erwin, 6-4, and Erekson beat Wade, 6-1.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Top 4 qualify out of 157 and 141, correct?
So, technically, aren’t all 10 already auto-qualified for NCAA’s?
by The Mexican't on Mar 6, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Just because they're in the semis is no guarantee they'll finish 4th at worst.
For instance, here’s the bracket for 157.
If Kerr loses tonight, he would wrestle the winner of the Arlis/Johnson match in the consolation bracket. If he loses that, he’d wrestle in the 5th place match.
That said, if he beats the winner of the Arlis/Johnson match in that hypo, he would be in the 3rd place match and could finish no worse than 4th. So as long as he wins one of his next two matches, he’ll qualify for NCAAs.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, damn.
I never did quite understand wrestlebacks, but I think I’ve got it now. Thanks, Ross, you’re the greatest.
by The Mexican't on Mar 6, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
Well I was aware of the double elimination
I guess my math was shaky and I hadn’t considered that the losers of the semis still had to wrestle back into the top 4.
by The Mexican't on Mar 6, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
Bluders Bunch 12/ sparty 7, 10:50 first half
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 4:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Iowa 25/ sparty women 26, Halftime
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 6, 2010 5:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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