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The Short List: Brian Gregory

While loose lips in the athletics department may sink ships, they also leave plenty of room for speculation as to who the replacement will be.  Every day seems to bring another story about whether or not one of the myriad options is interested in the job, or if an option truly is under consideration.  Most is rumormongering, to be sure, but this is the internet: If we didn't rumormonger, what would fill these pages?  Let's get it on.

Depending on who you are reading, Iowa has contacted Dayton head coach Brian Gregory about taking over the basketball program, and Gregory turned them down.  Or Gregory told them to wait until his team finishes their run in the NIT.  Or Gary Barta flew to Cincinnati Thursday to interview him.  Or none of this has happened.  In any case, ten days into the coaching search, he's the "hot" name, which says a lot for how the search is going.

Gregory_mediumThat's not to say Gregory is a bad coach; quite to the contrary, the pedigree and results are there.  Gregory played his college ball at Oakland (Mich.) University after transferring out of Navy.  Immediately after graduating, he caught on as a graduate assistant to Jud Heathcote, staying for 6 years.  He then spent one year as an assistant at Toledo before joining Kevin O'Neill's staff at Northwestern for two seasons.  Gregory finally returned to Michigan State as an assistant to Tom Izzo, spending four years in East Lansing on his second tour of duty before being chosen to replace Oliver Purnell at Dayton.

In the seven seasons since assuming the head spot for the Flyers, Gregory has compiled a 169-92 record, with two NCAA appearances and a pair of NIT's.  He has yet to win a conference championship in the Atlantic 10, however (he did win a division championship in his first season).  His teams have also exhibited a disturbing tendency to flame out down the stretch; the 2007-08 Flyers climbed to #14 in the AP poll in January before a February collapse and sub-.500 conference record dropped them into the NIT.  It could be chalked up as an anomaly, except for the fact that this year's team did almost exactly the same thing, losing 6 of its last 9 and finishing 8-8 in a conference they were expected to win (to be fair, they have regrouped and made a run to the NIT semifinals).  Two may be a coincidence, but should he get the Iowa job, the trend would be proven or disproven on our dime.

Recruiting is less of a concern than virtually every other candidate.  Gregory has focused his efforts on Ohio, Michigan, and Illinois, and the results have been positive.  He has landed a steady string of 3-star types, better than your average A-10 team is expected to score.  He's also shown the ability to play at the highest levels; this year, he picked off 4-star point guard Juwan Staten out of Virginia's Oak Hill Academy.  Of all the potential issues I might have with Gregory, none of them are recruiting-related.

There could also be financial concerns, as Gregory's contract was extended through 2018 after last season's NCAA appearance, mostly to prevent precisely what Iowa may attempt to do.  Dayton is private and has declined to disclose the details of Gregory's agreement, but recent filings indicate he received slightly more than $500k in base pay, with a total compensation package of approximately $750k this year (and that doesn't even count the money he gets for his Just For Men Touch of Gray commercials).  That is, at the high end, a $4M buyout, and is likely at least $2M.  That means a big payout to Dayton on top of the Lickliter buyout and a comparable package to Gregory for taking the job, all for a program admittedly strapped for short-term cash.

And all of this assumes he wants the job, which has not been confirmed and, if one branch of the rumor tree is correct, has actually been proven false.  When Tom Izzo issued his statement in the wake of Lickliter's termination comparing Iowa to Al-Qaeda, many read that as a direct message to his former assistant that Iowa is not the job to take.  Gregory has Big Ten ties, to be sure, but he also grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, where DePaul is promising to throw wads of cash at their next coach.  He is also entrenched at Dayton, with a contract that virtually assures him continued gainful employment for the next five years in a conference that is traditionally strong in basketball and poised to get stronger should the Big East disintegrate.

There are a lot of question marks here, perhaps not as many as the other options at this point, but enough to give any prudent fan pause.  And the upside potential in choosing a coach who is slightly better than average in the Atlantic 10 seems, at first blush, limited.  He wouldn't be a terrible choice, but he isn't going to set the world on fire.

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Doesn't sound like the right fit.

Like a George Raveling Lite, without any of the strong personal attributes. Any word if Clyde Frazier, Keith Hernandez and Emmit Smith would come along as part of his JFM entourage?

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 7:57 AM CDT reply actions  

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Well…sort of.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's because

I’m Keith Hernandez.

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...I don't want this guy

we need someone who can live, no thrive, with Iowa basketball as third banana. In this regard Raveling got it. He always said that winning in basketball is easier if you are winning in football. And guess who else just said that yesterday, Bruce Pearl. (see Hlog’s Blog)

Strong self-esteem is what I want in the next coach. Lickliter was almost bereft of it. Alford was a fake. That is why these Indiana guys get painted with a broad brush. They cannot believe any school would EVER support anything other than basketball. Most of these Indiana basketball coaches, sad to say, have this wet dream of basketball being like it is at Kentucky or, of course, Indiana, where football is an appetizer.

Bruce Pearl is a George Raveling with coaching ability.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 26, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why'd you spit on Kramer?

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 26, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

There was a second spitter!

It was Roger McDowell!

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice refrence!

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I always think of this guy when I see George Raveling's name

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Mar 26, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not quite the recruiter, But a hell of a players coach.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Barta was in Cincinnati for some Skyline chili.

Coaching searches are hungry work!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 26, 2010 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Nothing like

cinnamon in your chili.

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do we have a link

To Izzo’s post Lick firing reaction?

by TAMPAHAWK on Mar 26, 2010 9:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

http://noise.typepad.com/hey_joe/2010/03/lickliter-out.html

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 26, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hypothetical situation

Let’s say our new basketball coach, we’ll call him coach blah blah blah, is at a press conference. Said coach is asked a question regarding their current 3 game losing streak and if the fact of not having “his” players in “his” system is the cause for current streak.

In resopnse to the question, coach blah blah blah stands up, makes a gesture with his hand and speaks with a loud, yet calm voice:

Fuck you, we’re IOWA!

He then walks out of the room with everyone in complete silence, totally stunned.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

At least

we’d know the man had a set!

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

SuperNanny's the Iowa AD?

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Mar 26, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I'm guessing a freak in the sheets.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 26, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then Jim Boylen is your man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ihiHuvn_yA

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 26, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's what I am talking about.

Nice find!

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, hell yes.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 26, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, God no.

That’s precisely what we don’t need. Might as well try to get Penders back out of retirement if we’re going for unlikable.

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least

we’d know the man had a set!

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I really needto learn how to use the reply function!

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't this smell a little like the last 2 regimes?

Kind of a mid major, mid-west guy that hasn’t done it on a big scale?

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

What you talking about Willis?

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

He just seems like the next flavor of the day.

I could be WAY of base, but to me it just seems to be a bad fit.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just wanted to use that quote.

I agree with you comment. I just sometimes like to fuck things up. It is probably best to just ignore me. I mean, come on, look at my name!

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not a problem.

I thought you were pushing for him to get back into politics.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

BTW,

everytime I read one of your comments, I can’t help but have Brian’s voice in my head. It definately puts a twist on the whole thing.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 26, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be kind of cool if it were Quagmire's... Giggity

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are similarities...

But he does have experience coaching in a big-time program from his days as an ass’t at MSU. He’s familiar with the Big Ten and should know what it takes to win in the league. That’s no guarantee of anything, of course, but it’s a leg up on what Alford and Lickliter brought to the table when they came here.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 26, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Except that as HS pointed out, Izzo may be on a campaign to warn all ex-assts off the Iowa job. Reasons may be fourfold:
1) He’d prefer Iowa remain his bitch (unofficial record v. Iowa during his time at MSU = 20-8. 71% winning %age)
2) He likes Iowa basketball being in the shitter.
3) He doesn’t want to face ex-assts in conf.
4) He thinks it is a lousy job.

I’m biased but am giving more weight to 1-3 over 4.

by txhawkeye on Mar 26, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with all that.

I was just pointing out why this mid-major coach could be different than the last two we’ve had.

I just don’t think we can afford to toss out all “mid-major” coaches as possible contenders because we got burned by Redacted and Lick. There are too many mid-major coaches succeeding in the tourney now and too many major conference teams coached by former mid-major coaches to make that a viable strategy. We need to look at why those guys failed — poor communicators, poor recruiting, lack of experience coaching in big-time college basketball — and find candidates who aren’t flawed in those areas.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 26, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I was being a little smart-alecky, or at least average-alecky. Although I was initially on the NO mid-major coach squad, my thinking has changed to being on the pay attention to fit squad – who have qualities that are “good” where you reference avoidance of “bad”. Or something.

by txhawkeye on Mar 26, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The reason coaching in pro sports is stupid

is that everyone is just a retread. In a 28-32 team league, there are maybe a group of 40 coaches/managers that just get rotated in for one another. Can you think of any logical reason Wade Phillips has a head coaching gig? College sports stay vital, and routinely have “Cinderella” stories because new blood is consistently infused with in the coaching ranks. Programs taking chances on unproven but also untapped resources is what gives us our Gonzagas, St. Mary’s and UNI’s in basketball and allow dormant programs like Mizzou, Rutgers and even (gasp!) jNW to become relevant in football. Unless it’s an absolute home run, why not take a chance with an up-and-comer?

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

My vote, based on what you just said, is......

Steve Forbes

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 26, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teve Torbes?

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually played

a Penn State recruiter in that episode! How does nobody remember it!?!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's from Lone Tree?!?

My mom ran track against them in high school. Good luck finding “Highland High School” on Iowa high school sports search’s.

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe as a backup choice

The more I see and hear of this, I think Barta’s waiting to see if Scott Drew has any interest.

"Mongo just pawn in game of life" --Mongo (Inspiration by HawkOnRails' Waco Kid)

by Mr. Grizz on Mar 26, 2010 11:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You don't think he's waiting on

Calipari?

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

All of his sanctions and forfeited wins.

Would make people yearn for TL.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

After his forfeited wins

wouldn’t he still have a comparable record to TL?

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be a waste

considering I suggested it for nothing more than humorous effect. Even if he wasn’t a DO. NOT. WANT. (which he is) he would still be a CAN. NOT. GET.

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understood and Thankful

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're not cheatin'

you’re not tryin. Over/under on UK sanctions, please, entertainment purposes only?

"Mongo just pawn in game of life" --Mongo (Inspiration by HawkOnRails' Waco Kid)

by Mr. Grizz on Mar 26, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just for this year?

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 26, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the NCAA?

Or the United Nations?

My dentist once fixed Russ Millard's tooth at 1 in the morning.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 26, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

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