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The Short List: Ben Jacobson

While loose lips in the athletics department may sink ships, they also leave plenty of room for speculation as to who the replacement will be.  Every day seems to bring another story about whether or not one of the myriad options is interested in the job, or if an option truly is under consideration.  Most is rumormongering, to be sure, but this is the internet: If we didn't rumormonger, what would fill these pages?  Let's get it on.

The unsexy pick just got a whole lot sexier.  Ladies and gentlemen, the pride of Iowa, the vanquisher of the Kansas Jayhawks, America's sweetheart: Northern Iowa's Ben Jacobson.

Jacobson_mediumJacobson hails from Mayville, ND, and played point guard for North Dakota in the early 90's.  He graduated the school's all-time assist leader. Following graduation, he stayed on as a graduate assistant, then full-time assistant coach, with the Fighting Sioux until 2000, then latched on with Greg McDermott at North Dakota State as assistant coach and recruiting coordinator.  He moved to Northern Iowa with McDermott the next year (2001), and remained McDermott's top assistant until assuming the head coaching position when McDermott moved to Ames.

Jacobson has presided over the greatest extended run in UNI history, leading the program through the last four of six consecutive 18-win seasons.  He finished his first two years with an even .500 conference record in the true heyday of Missouri Valley Conference basketball.  UNI then surprisingly won the conference in 2008-09 with a team picked to finish close to the bottom of the Mo Valley, going 14-4 in the conference after an auspicious 9-7 start in non-conference play and winning the conference tournament.  There were no surprises this year, as UNI led the MVC virtually wire-to-wire, posting a 28-4 record to date with a 15-3 mark in the conference and a season sweep of Iowa, Iowa State, and Drake (not exactly the most impressive season to complete that feat, but still).  And then came the NCAA tournament.  And then came Kansas.  And the rest is soon-to-be-made history.

At first blush, many Iowa fans are less than enthused at the prospect of Jacobson as head coach at Iowa; UNI runs a slow-down system, and Jacobson isn't the most exciting coach to watch work.  But first impressions are rarely correct, and the comparisons between Jacobson and Lickliter end with the three-syllable last names.  Ben Jacobson is a basketball wonk's wet dream.  He doesn't run a system, so much as an incredible number of sets: UNI players are required to learn more than 100 set plays without the benefit of a playbook, and games are scripted much like a football coordinator would, exploiting intentional patterns in play to expose defensive tendencies and overpursuit.  His players learn tempo-free stats, and are taught the benefits of offensive and defensive efficiency (in an interview earlier this year, Adam Koch told a reporter that UNI was 21-1 when their defensive efficiency was under 1.00; the reporter was naturally dumbfounded).  While the virtues of the Jacobson and Lickliter systems are the same, the methods of getting there are entirely different.

Where Jacobson could run into trouble is recruiting.  Jacobson's roster is the typical Missouri Valley hodgepodge of Iowa kids ignored by UI and ISU, with a mix of players from Wisconsin and Minnesota.  Recently, Jacobson has made inroads into St. Louis, where the Missouri Valley is headquartered and plays its tournament, playing off the cache of its recent conference success, but the results have been less-than-stellar; none of his St. Louis targets, let alone recruits, have received more than 1 star from Scout.  The highest-ranked player in his incoming 2010 class is Greg McDermott's son, who didn't get an offer from dad.  That's a concern.

There is no financial issue whatsoever.  Jacobson earns just $150,000 per season in base salary at UNI on a contract that runs through 2012 and, while I haven't seen a buyout figure, it can't be more than the cost of a new automobile.  Throw in the fact that 5 players are graduating, and the timing could not be better for Jacobson to make a move up.  Unlike UNI, Iowa has the money to make Jacobson an offer he can't refuse; that is, unless someone else does it first.  

So the question becomes whether the concerns over recruiting, the pall cast by Greg McDermott's tragic turn in Ames, and the general "meh" factor of begrudgingly accepting a coach not just from a mid-major program but the mid-major program 60 miles up the road that most Iowa fans follow and treat like a kid brother, solves the problem.  Kansas win or no, a Ben Jacobson announcement isn't going to set off a rush to the ticket windows, but, to be fair, there are remarkably few coaches in play that would (I count exactly one under serious consideration).  What will sell tickets is winning; with the talent currently on the roster in Iowa City under his tutelage, I get the strange feeling that could come sooner rather than later.  But it might take a little patience; given this fan base's hunger for success, that might be the one thing lacking.

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From everything I've read about Coach Jake

He reminds me of a young Phil Jackson tho be honest. Calm, cool and collected, and the players love him.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 23, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Which is coincidental because,

if the Sioux City Journal is to be believed, Brennon Cougill is reminiscent of a young Michael Jordan.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 23, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you have it half right.

That would be a young Michael Jordan with a hint of some Lebron James.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 23, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right now

He reminds me of a mildly-athletic competitive hot dog eater.

"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."

by Twin Cities Hawk on Mar 23, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Landfill?

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 23, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kobayashi!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 23, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Badlands Booker.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 23, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, Landfill's Brother

But Landfill told him all about the rest of the team, so he is up to speed already. In fact why don’t you just call him Landfill in honor of his brother.

by BuckeyFucker on Mar 23, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

For the perfect Gill response to that.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 23, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both Phil Jackson and Ben Jacobson...

played high school basketball in North Dakota, and played college ball for the U of North Dakota.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like him a lot

And as a UNI grad, I would like him to stay there. However, if he’s going to leave, I would certainly rather have him coaching the Hawks than somewhere else. While he does have a slow-down system, there is at least a lot more movement than Lick’s. One thing that drove me absolutely nuts about Lick’s system was the complete lack of movement away from the ball. The offense was so stagnant. UNI’s does get bogged down on occasion, but by and large there is plenty of movement and opportunities to score (not to mention he doesn’t discourage shots early in the shot clock, unlike our recently deposed coach).
The other problem I initially had with the idea of him coming to Iowa City was that he seems like a pretty quiet, laid back guy, and didn’t know how he would handle a little more media scrutiny that comes with the territory, as opposed to Cedar Falls. However, he seems like a much more personable guy than Lick was, so maybe it wouldn’t be as big a problem as I thought. Just my $.02.

by Brock8144 on Mar 23, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I think fans are being a little naive

Just because the last two mid-major coaches have been disappointments doesn’t mean the next one will be.

Jacobsen isn’t Greg McDermott just like Todd Lickliter wasn’t Thad Matta. Hell, once upon a time Bruce Pearl was coaching a sweet sixteen Cinderella too.

I’m assuming Barta won’t hold past mid-major failures against Jacobsen. Not saying hes the right guy, but he seems like a pretty good candidate.

by burglinturds on Mar 23, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

It's not that I'm against mid-major coaches

Obviously, some cinderella coaches go on to build consistent winners. [Name redacted] actually had a decent measure of success here, at least until the NCAA tourney. Pearl at Tennessee also comes to mind. I just think somebody with consistent success at the high-major level is a more attractive candidate.

A coach like Few, who has shown the ability to win on a regular basis, and rebuild a program is more attractive than a Lick or [redacted]. If Jacobson had built and then rebuilt a program I would feel differently.

Yes, Pearl was the coach of a cinderella once. That sweet sixteen run was also the 2nd time in 3 years UWM went to the tourney with a NIT bid between. The team he built then took a first year head coach to the second round (7 seniors can make a coach look good). He also had built a DII powerhouse before landing in Milwaukee. His resume is longer than Jacobson’s or Lick’s.

by PackerHawk on Mar 23, 2010 11:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What has Few rebuilt?

He took over for Monson in Gonzaga and has had tons of success ever since. That actually sounds a lot like Jacobsen.

by burglinturds on Mar 23, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I misspoke

Few hasn’t rebuilt, I thought that they missed the tournament once or twice. I was wrong.

But while I’m on it, let’s compare resumes:
Few – 11 years at Gonzaga, 11 tournament appearances, 12-11 tournament record, 4 sweet sixteens.

Jacobson – 4 years at UNI, 2 tournament appearance, 2-1 tournament record (as of now), 1 sweet sixteen.

Jacobson missed the tournament his first two years, so you could say he rebuilt UNI after McDermott left. But I’ll take 11-for-11 in the tourney over 2-for-4 in the tourney. His resume compares to Few’s when he has had a decade of success like Few. I AM NOT ADVOCATING FOR MARK FEW AS OUR NEXT COACH, Just wanted to be clear on that.

My opinion is that a mid major coach with a decade of success is much different than a coach with two years of success.

by PackerHawk on Mar 23, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

well we don't have a chance with Few

Few has turned down far better jobs than this one (including Oregon this time around). Jacobsen is more realistic, and I think I’d prefer him over the other coaches that have been named recently (Marshall, Boylen, etc).

by burglinturds on Mar 24, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's

creepy!

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 23, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love him but....

I’ll pass. This job, thanks to TL, just became a work your fucking ass off job. Big personality need apply…and frankly, the Iowa basketball team needs to ceate a unique identity. We do not need a KF version of basketball. If we are goiong to copy any coach, we copy Brands. Take no prisoners basketball. Attack.

The next coach will excite me if he is a high octane personality, with an offense and defense to match. This is not that guy…at all. Let’s get outside the box now Barta.

Yep, I’ll pass.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 23, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Does he also get Brands' talent level?

Because it’s really easy to admire Brands’ style of coaching when you get the best recruiting classes every fucking year. Hell, when you have about 2 to 3 schools with whom you might compete for kids.

Let’s not pretend that Iowa’s success has to do with the wrestling coaches’ personalities. All wrestling coaches are like that. Iowa just happens to be the place where the best want to go.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 23, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right

It’s wrestling……..you have NOWHERE near the competition for talent that you do in BB.

If all the rest of the NCAA schools spent half the resources Iowa does on wrestling, we’d be just another team. Hell, 50%+ of NCAA don’t even have a program.

"For the charming if somewhat curious branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightily struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"

by tommy veryzer on Mar 23, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

This conversation took an utterly pointless digression, but I'll make one point anyway...
If all the rest of the NCAA schools spent half the resources Iowa does on wrestling, we’d be just another team.

That’s fucking stupid.

Iowa has an elite coach, more tradition than anywhere but Oklahoma State, and a strong natural talent base.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

And a sport that few outside these states really give a S*** about

so that’s not accurate?

"For the charming if somewhat curious branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightily struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"

by tommy veryzer on Mar 23, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said this:

If all the rest of the NCAA schools spent half the resources Iowa does on wrestling, we’d be just another team.

That’s idiotic, because it ignores the built-in advantages Iowa has: an elite coach, more tradition than anywhere but Oklahoma State, and a strong natural/local talent base. Those factors aren’t changing.

Iowa is to college wrestling what Alabama is to college football. Indiana can spend as much on football as Alabama and they’re still going to lag behind because they don’t have an elite coach, they don’t have the tradition, and they don’t have a strong natural/local talent base.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 24, 2010 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's wrestling and 99% of the universe does not care

"For the charming if somewhat curious branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightily struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"

by tommy veryzer on Mar 24, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congratulations on continuing to miss the point.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 24, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No YOU don't get it Ross!

Nobody cares! Apologize to all the fanbases for caring about something they don’t! OK, now Johns Hopkins people, apologize for supporting lacrosse. Done? Good.

OK, next step. Northern schools; start spending money on baseball. C’mon, all it takes is resources to be good. MSU, stop spending money on basketball and football and just spend your way to a competitive level in college baseball. You, too, Florida State. Why don’t you have competitive hockey? Just allocate resources to it because that’s all it takes. Oh, also care more, because that is the X factor.

Ross, you’re an idiot. So are you, Iowa. In fact, you know what Iowa stands for don’t you?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 24, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't for get Colorado

for having a college ski team. and Wisconsin-Milwaukee for having a bowling team. And don’t forget Montana for Rifle shooting (although, at the after party they call it hunting).

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 25, 2010 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

West Virginia dominates Rifle

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 25, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

...and poor health habits

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 25, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

and per capita

orthodonist bills. You know, when they actually go to a dentist.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 27, 2010 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

N if I have to choose a bowling school

I’m going with Witchita State. Mainly do to the fact their the Motherfuckin’ Shockers!

by RonMaDon on Mar 25, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Shockers

do like their 10 pin.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 25, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's more of a

7 10 split…

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 25, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

They have a special grip they use for that split

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 25, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Shockers

really don’t try to finesse that 7-10 split; they just force it in, hoping that willpower, and arm-strength, alone will get them in.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 27, 2010 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct,

but make no mistake, Brands coaching abliity take Iowa to it’s current level.

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 23, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Les Miles, Zooker and The Wanstache have had great/really good recruiting classes but have failed to make them great teams. However, I agree more than disagree with the bulk of the Jacobite’s post.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 23, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Stoops point was more about a coach who will work his fucking ass off/aggressive than raising a discussion of the relatively few elite collegiate wrestling programs. He wants a guy with an outgoing personality that embraces the challenge and opportunity (whoever’s next isn’t exactly following Dean Smith). Redacted’s story in the recent SI quoted him as saying he didn’t like having to sell Iowa basketball. Well, this is now a full-on selling job. A lot easier if you are comfortable actually talking to people (Lick?) and don’t act like a dick (Redacted).

by txhawkeye on Mar 23, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

So another sport that isn't basketball? Got it.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 23, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then I suppose you don't want to hear my plan

to model the basketball team after the French Revolution either.

Napoleon knew how to build a contender, damn it.

by Nefarious on Mar 23, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please know that...

Ben Jacobson is loved by his players. I even saw Carlton Reed in OKC at the UNLV game.

He may not be a giant personality. But I think he does have a sense of humor (something I’m not sure about with Lick).

Other than Pearl (who we may not be able to get), what big personality are we able to get? Stoops, this question is aimed at you.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

BIg Personalit does not mean

famous personality. I have looked at a number of Barbee clips and I like him in this way. He’s intense and outgoing and real…not buttoned up. The guy at Baylor, Drew, i a huge deal. I don’t think he will come to Iowa. He is the kind of guy who wil be at UCLA or a major, major program soon. But he’s supremely confident and looks and acts the part.

Beating Kansas is a huge deal. But, my guess is that Jacobson is coaching Minnesota in the next five years. After he cements in people’s minds that he is not a one trick poney.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 23, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I typed that whole thing without my glasses

of vodka.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 23, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, here's your basketball name

It’s been out there, and everybody hates it because it reflects how low we have fallen but, in terms of personality, a Johnny Orr. I don’t necessarily buy it myself, but I was living in Ames when he was hired. We were in a restaurant in west Ames and I saw Lou McCollough, the A.D. at the time and then heard that loud gravelly voice from the other side of the booth. It was Orr, telling dirty jokes just like he always did. He was introduced as coach the next day. In a dead basketball town, the guy, just a couple years removed from an NCAA final, instilled life; not much in the way of great tournament runs, but a lot of excitement and a few good NCAA trips.

I’m not convinced we need that much culture shock. But, while it’s hard to ignore what Jacobsen did, despite what appears to have been a complete coaching lapse by Kansas, I think we do need some sort of a personality boost, a buzz created by a hire who will intrigue, if not excite, the fan base. Will Barbee do that? Turgeon, if we could get him? Drew? I don’t know, those guys are names but not big names. The only bankable name out there is Pearl, who we aren’t gong to get. Maybe if UNI beats MSU, which could happen, a buzz is manufactured for Jacobsen, but I still don’t see it.

"Mongo just pawn in game of life" --Mongo (Inspiration by HawkOnRails' Waco Kid)

by Mr. Grizz on Mar 23, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

If all coaches are comparable

Please explain the Jim Zelasky years.

Zalesky was fairly intense, but he brought none of the emotion and bull doggedness that Gable brought and Brands is now bringing. While Zalesky was there, many of the best kids stopped going to Iowa and were migrating towards non-traditional programs. Do you need any more proof than arrival Metcalf et al. w/ Brands.

Also, while there are less schools with high-end wrestling programs, there are also a lot fewer recruits to choose from. I have no idea if the ratio of legitimate D-1 athletes to good programs b/w bball and wrestling are comparable, but I don’t think they as far of as you seem to be presuming.

Ankles! We don't need no stinking ankles!

by three and out the kok story on Mar 23, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm responding to folks who call Jacobson

a basketball Kirk Ferentz. Focus on my desire to have a NEW IDENTITY. That is where real success lies for this program going forward.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 23, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the problem with this

is that it was essentially what caused Tom Davis to get fired. We needed a new identity, a youthful, in your face, brash, I played NBA and you didn’t, pick up my check for me willya, identity. We needed to stop being a B+ program and become an A program. We leapt at the shortcut of thinking that a personality change would create it.

I don’t buy it. The program is part of the community is part of the state is one with the culture. I see a bigger problem in bringing in somebody who doesn’t know anything about the community and culture. TL, who was supposed to bring a NEW, NEW IDENTITY, wasn’t able to get it in gear.

I want the SUI to hire a guy who beats good teams with fewer resources and is fun to be around. I want to hire a guy who wins. The rest of us can worry about culture, identity, the rest of it. How about we just hire a good guy whom people want to be around, who wins basketball games with whatever talent he can throw out onto the floor. It’s not like our two-deep on the football team matches up with Ohio State’s two-deep. But our coach doesn’t make dipshit remarks if he loses a game about how it’s the other team’s Senior Day and it’s so unfair. I mean, when you heard that, didn’t you just go, “What a pussy”?

One thing that would really help out on attendance, but which is unsolvable I guess now because of TV bribery, are the stupid start times. You want people to drive over from DSM for a game? Don’t start it at 8:30 p.m.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Mar 23, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone thought TL was the guy because of the identity he would bring

I think he sold Iowa his COY award. The ay I now see it, people celebrated the departure of Slick and everyone thought that was a celebration of TL.

To Barta’s credit, we know TL wasn’t the first choice.

TL destroyed confidence in the program. That is why we need a new kind of leadership. More than someone fun, and we do need someone fun, we need an animal. This is no small task reviving this program. This also is not a task for the understated. Iowa basketball nees to yell fire in a crowded theater…then there needs to actually be a fire.

Also, I think Iowa can recruit big time players here. Not four or five of them in a three or four year span, but two studs is totally possible and really all that is needed. This isn’t football where the sheer volume of talent needed can be huge. Larry Bird took a team to the final with four pick-up players and an alcoholic coach.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 23, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You make a good point though in that we don't want to hire Rich Rod either

I just think that the mountain is big for this program. It can be climbed very quickly if in two years we go to the final four or elite eight…but I don’t see that happening. So you need a pied piper who can back it up with some big wins and basketball that is fucking fun to watch.

This guy Barbee might be better than I thought. The more I look at him the more I like. He is…[cliche coming]…refreshing. He is not super measured or slick. He’s just hands in the mud basketball junkie. I can see why players gravitate to him.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 23, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I'm not a "player"...

…cuz I tend to gravitate away from people with junkie mud all over their hands (basketball or not).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 23, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST

by Dip-Shit on Mar 23, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Devils Advocate

If you assume the following to be true…
1) Regardless of the coach Iowa, Iowa is likely going to struggle significantly again next year, based on the level of talent, the youth, and a new system.
2) Few, if any, coaches are going to get asses in the seats by simply showing up.

Then I think there is a strong case to be made for someone exactly like the KF-mold for the basketball program. That is, a coach that is going to come in with a legitimate plan to rebuild the program from the ground up. While some immediate success would be nice, I am much more concerned about finding a coach that cares where the program is in 5-8 years and wants to get the fans back caring about the program. Too often it seems the crazy intensity pissers will have some immediate success then flame out or will jump to next, greater challenge.

I am not saying the new coach does not need to show some excitement and be a little more media savy. KF interacts well enough to with the media. And while is press conferences vanilla, I think its fairly safe to say he is slightly more intense behind closed doors and during the game.

Ankles! We don't need no stinking ankles!

by three and out the kok story on Mar 23, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jaconbson-inspired link:

the guys over at TOC linked to this today. A good read, though slightly unexpected from a Cornell site.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 23, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Not strictly a Cornell site...

…(over on the right hand side you’ll find this nugget)
Now in its sixth season, The Mid-Majority is a blog about the 24 smaller Division I college basketball conferences (and independents) by Kyle Whelliston.

It’s worth a visit if you have some time, otherwise just check out the split screen of the first round game winners (of UNI teams) from ‘91 and ’10. It’s odd how similar the two look side by side.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 23, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

ecruiting red herring.

I think, honestly, there is a recurring logical failure in criticisms of TL and Jacobson in regard to recruiting.

I don’t really care if Jacobson recruits all Lucas O’Rears. This is because if you whip — and they whipped — KU with Lucas O’Rears, then you recruited the right guys. I’m sure recruiting would be easier at Iowa anyway. But this emphasis

I think TL recruited okay and my point remains the same. With a bunch of “We’ll pass on that kid” recruits at Butler he won. He didn’t lose at Iowa because of some recruiting problem. He lost at Iowa, imo, for two reasons:

a. he couldn’t sell his ideas and get the players to buy into his leadership. At Butler the players were self-selecting, the culture existed, the Hoosiers myth controlled the intangibles. He made the classic mistake of assuming his reputation and prior success would mean something to a bunch of strangers, and then he compounded it (evidently, because really, how would I know?) by become more distant and erratic in how he handled the dissension. I strongly believe that he would still be coach if Barta hadn’t been concerned about more attrition.

With morale in the toilet, his system became as fluid, interesting and successful as the line at the DMV.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Mar 23, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I just worry about people getting too caught up in one win

If you think Jacobson could go 15-3 in the Big 10 (or for that matter, in the Big 12) with all Lucas O’Rears year in and year out, I think you would be sadly mistaken.

If the next coach is a mid-major guy, he HAS to be able to recruit at at least an average high-major level to succeed at Iowa.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 23, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody at Iowa...

for at lest the first two years, is going 15-3.

And Lucas O’Rear has a knack for playing secretly thuggish defense, and being in the right place at the right time (pass deflections, rebounding). You could do a lot worse, like Devan Bawinkel, for instance.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

O'Rear is the quintessential

“love him when he’s on your team, hate him when he’s playing against you” guy.

by Brock8144 on Mar 24, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely true.

But you need those kind of dudes, sometimes.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 24, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why that just posted, but whatever, I'm am sober at work, and sorry it's so sloppy.

Anyway, Jacobson, just won the national title, as far as I’m concerned. If you’re UNI and you win that game, and you do so by leading for the last 39 minutes, you can’t ask for more, ever. And I credit the closeness, discipline, and basketball intelligence that that unit displayed, and that is derived from the coach. All year I’ve been scratching my head about our supposed talent deficit — but hell, our guys are more talented than the Butler 10-deep, and Butler has won 94 games in three years.

I’ll be stunned if we can even interest someone like Pearl or Stallings, and I’m just not so sure that a Barbee-class guy is a better coach than Jacobson.

I don’t think personality will sell tickets, recruiting will sell tickets, or opening a Hooters in the mezzanine will sell tickets. Watching basketball that doesn’t make your head hurt, that is fun for the players, will sell tickets.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Mar 23, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I think basketball needs to fun to watch too

another reason why Jacobson’s style is not my cup of tea. His team is hitting on all cylinders now. So, of course it is fun to watch himn take down Goliath. But he turns out more than a few of mid-50s win type of games…and happily so.

52 point…victories here and holding teams to 40 points there. Ugh. I get a headach just thinking about it.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=293322460

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=300122460

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=300642460

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=300652460

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by StoopsMyAss on Mar 23, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get where your both coming from

Get an exciting coach in to sell tickets and sell a new identity. That’s great as long as its not short lived.

by Duez I say on Mar 23, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want breakaway dunks and chest pounding and all that good stuff

I want our damn teams dunks to a fucking nightly highlight during the season on ESPN. I want to see opponents trampled bodies on the floor, covered in sweat, exhaustion, and general basketball humiliation. I WANT TO SEE VEINS IN OUR PLAYERS TEETH

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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 23, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

OOH AH AH AH AH!!

RAP/ROCK! EXTREME SPORTS! MONSTER ENERGY DRINKS!

/X-games’d

by The Nihilist on Mar 23, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

400 BABIES

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Mar 23, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss Thunder Doug.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always felt the kid

who played “Pooh” in The Wire looked like Doug.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 23, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is Iowa.

We have never “thunder-dunked” our way to anything.

We will need to be able to hit 3s, we will need to be able to play D and create turnovers, and we will need to make free throws. That is the Butle…um, I mean, Iowa way.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

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by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care about thunder dunking

sure, it’d be nice every once in a while, but what I want is a big guy underneath to rebound and push people around. Take some fouls (miss some free throws) and get a couple of put backs.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 23, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell that to Ed Horton and Al Lorenzon

At one time we had better athletes at Iowa than just about anywhere else.

by Brock Sampson on Mar 23, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying

Jess Settles is an assistant coach for Mount Pleasant. Maybe it’s time he got his shot as a coach at Iowa. And really if things go bad he can try to get a 13th year of eligibility and show those kids what’s up.. Or not…

by HawkeyeVikingTwinsUnited on Mar 23, 2010 2:22 PM CDT reply actions  

But can Jess still dunk?

If he can’t dunk, screw him, OK?

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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 23, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone is starting to sound like a certain Sioux city newspaper.

Lobbying for certain rites of passage and such. Is this Jess Settles mom?

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 23, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe?

No but for me one of the last players Iowa had that made me want to really watch a game. Whom played with his heart and was always full of energy, was well Jess Settles. Maybe it’s just me remebering better days. That being said I really think the emotion and work ethic he played with should be what we look for in a coach. (no not really Settles) but someone intense and firey who could motivate the fan base. I could deal with a losing season or two if the coach was at least vocal about his displeasure. And well showed some emotion, any emotion.. IMO

by HawkeyeVikingTwinsUnited on Mar 23, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa had a pretty good run of "hustle/heart" players there for awhile.

With Chris Street, Matt Bowen, Reggie Evans, and Jess Settles

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 23, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is he a JUCO transfer?

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 23, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does he still rock a fade?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 23, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Judging from his cheeks

he’s been rocking some Maid-Rites…

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 24, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Judging by his facial expression

He looks rather happy to be an assistant head coach on a HS team.

"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."

by Twin Cities Hawk on Mar 25, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's Acie's happy?

Acie pensive:

Acie coquettish:

Acie enraged:

By the way, this is as cutting-edge as TV gets.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 25, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

BE TALLER

SHOE LIFTS

JUST $9.99

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 24, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, its not nice to pimp your own business here

When you’ve already got it virally spread all over You Tube.

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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 24, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greg Brunner?

Give the Brew Dog some love. He had hustle AND flow.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 23, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Overlooked Brunner and would like to apologize.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 23, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's okay...

…most of the Big 10 overlooked Brunner until he stole their inbounds pass due to a lot of hustle (Chris Street style).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 24, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brunner-free throws-NWState

Sorry, it still hurts but he couldn’t hustle those damn free throws.

by PackerHawk on Mar 24, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's easy to pin on Bru

but [redacted] did a lousy job of keeping that team focused when they had a sizable lead late in the 2nd half. A coach’s job is to put his players in a position to succeed…well, that and call Mormon players “asshole.”

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 24, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well done. Redacted’s also the guy with “Bible Verse” posters all over his office in NM. At least according to SI. What a tool.

by txhawkeye on Mar 24, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

BJ Armstrong

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on Mar 23, 2010 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Good one.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 24, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don Nelson (snicker!)

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 24, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take it from a UNI fan (me).

I have seen 13 UNI games in person this year. Jacobson is as good a candidate as any other mid-major coach. If we don’t get Pearl (and face it, I don’t think he is coming to IC), then Ben should be the next man in. Then maybe Danny Manning or that assistant from Duke.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like I beat SMA to this:

Chris Collins (aka that assistant from Duke)!!!! Woohoo!!!!

by PackerHawk on Mar 24, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Coach Jake isn't leaving UNI right now.

Here is an article fron the Gazette.

Here is an exerpt:

The new agreement will guarantee Jacobson $450,000 with annual increases of $25,000 through the term of the deal. Jacobson’s current UNI contract is $289,000 per year.

If he keeps the team going to NCAA tourneys over the next few years, he’ll be at a major school shortly thereafter.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 24, 2010 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

uh, yea - it appears he is fairly happy in Cedar Falls

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 25, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Take it from a UNI fan (me)."

I have never seen a more terrifying sentence.

I saw The Police at the UNI-Dome, though!

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by Ornery Woody on Mar 24, 2010 11:22 PM CDT reply actions  

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