WE'RE TALKIN' WRESTLING: NCAA Tourney, Session I
Session I (including both the first-round "pigtail" matches and the first round matches) begins at 11am CST. No TV coverage, but there's a live stream at NCAA.com. There's also radio coverage (KXIC if you're in or around Iowa City; Hawkeye All-Access ($) via the intewebs otherwise) or liveblogs/Twitter updates. Liveblogs: Andy Hamilton at Hawk Central; KJ Pilcher at the Gazoo. Twitter: (P-C) Andy_Hamilton, (Gazoo) kjpilcher, (DI) jtbugos and rcyou.
Why is Brent Metcalf the fucking man? Oh yeah. From Andy Hamilton's excellent profile of Metcalf:
He's been the face of the franchise for the college wrestling's most visible team. He's been one of the sport's most polarizing figures. He's a fierce competitor who has been loved by Iowa fans and loathed by the haters of the Hawkeyes.
"Win or lose, he's the talk of wrestling because of the way he competes," said Mark Perry, Metcalf's former teammate at Iowa and current assistant at Cal Poly. "Brent is one of the nicest, most down-to-Earth people I've met ... but he has a bad rep because of the way he competes, and it was the same with the Brands brothers, it was the same with (Royce) Alger, it's the same as anybody who's a good competitor. If you're a good competitor, people want to knock you down. He doesn't deserve it, but that's what comes with being successful."
Metcalf has been one of the most instrumental pieces to Iowa's rise back to the top, a lynchpin to the Hawkeyes' bid for a third consecutive national title. He begins his personal quest for his second NCAA title today at the Qwest Center in Omaha, and if he gets it, Metcalf will finish his college career with the second-best winning percentage in Iowa history.
Make with the clicky and read the rest of the article, too, because (a) Hamilton's good people and he deserves the hits and (b) it's a great article filled with lots of interesting stories about Metcalf, one of the most interesting and dominant Iowa athletes of the past decade. Savor his matches these next few days; they're the last time you'll get to see Metcalf (as well as the other six seniors in the lineup) in action in Iowa singlets.
So how good was this group of seniors? Pretty damn good, as KJ Pilcher explains in the Gazoo:
This group has the chance to go unblemished — winning every dual, the Midlands Championships, NWCA National Duals, the Big Ten Championships and the NCAA Championships — a second straight year. They already hold Iowa records for most consecutive dual wins (61) and road dual victories (41). A third straight NCAA crown, which would be Iowa’s 23rd, can cement this class’ place in Iowa history. The Hawkeyes want to finish strong.
And, amazingly, to this point they've done it all with only one national champion (Metcalf), although the first national champion team (2007-2008) also featured Mark Perry as a national champion. Hopefully they add a few more national champions this weekend to really cement their legacy as one of the finest groups of wrestlers in Iowa history.
FIRST ROUND MATCHES
125 - #3 Matt McDonough TECH FALL (16-0) Jason Lara (Oregon State)
133 - #2 Dan Dennis DEC (6-2) Kevin Smith (Buffalo)
141 - #6 Montell Marion DEC (11-8) Cole Von Ohlen (Air Force)
149 - #2 Brent Metcalf MAJ DEC (15-6) Trenton Washington (UNI)
157 - UN Jake Kerr DEC (8-7) Tejovan Edwards (Arizona State)
165 - #7 Ryan Morningstar DEC (4-2, OT) Donald Jones (West Virginia)
174 - #2 Jay Borschel DEC (7-1) Scott Giffin (Penn)
184 - #9 Phil Keddy MAJ DEC (11-3) Michael Salopek (Virginia)
197 - Alan Gelogaev (Okie State) DEC (4-2, 2OT) #9 Chad Beatty
Hwt - #5 Dan Erekson DEC (11-6) Clayton Jack (Oregon State)
TEAM SCORE AFTER ROUND ONE
1. Iowa 21.5
2. Oklahoma State 16
3. (tie) Central Michigan, Lehigh, Wisconsin 15
6. Cornell 14
7. (tie) Iowa State, Ohio State 13
9. Oregon State 11.5
10. (tie) Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma 11
HISTORY AGAINST OPP.
125: McD's never faced either guy before.
133: Dennis has never faced Smith before.
141: Marion has never faced Van Ohlen before.
149: Metcalf has never faced Washington before (Washington was at 141 earlier; Marion pinned him at this year's Iowa-UNI dual.)
157: Kerr has never faced Edwards before.
165: Morningstar DEC Jones, 7-5 (OT) (2009 NCAA Tournament)
174: Borschel has never faced Giffin before.
184: Keddy has never faced Salopek before.
197: Beatty has never faced Gelogaev before; Gelogaev DEC Luke Lofthouse (3-2) at the Iowa-OSU dual this year.
Hwt: Erekson has never faced Jack before.
NCAA TOURNAMENT SCORING
1st: 16pts
2nd: 12pts
3rd: 10pts
4th: 9pts
5th: 7pts
6th: 6pts
7th: 4pts
8th: 3pts
Bonus points:
Fall, Forfeit, DQ, Default: 2pts
Tech Fall (w/ nearfall points): 1.5pts
Tech Fall (w/o nearfall points) and Major Decision: 1pt
Advancement points:
Championship side: 1pt
Bye followed by win on Championship side: 1pt
Consolation side: .5pt
Bye followed by win on Consolation side: .5pt
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Pucillo loses in pigtail match
_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)
by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
Basketball, shmasketball
Wrestling!!
The word is Fight, Fight, Fight for Iowa
Hey, so it started already?
I blame the leprechauns. Takin’ me gold, plying me with booze, and scrambling my brain. Bastards.
Anyway, not exactly a huge upset (Miller’s really good and Pucillo’s struggled mightily this year), but Pucillo lost his “pigtail” match, so he’s already down in the conso bracket. Needless to say, this isn’t gonna help OSU’s odds of being a dark horse nat’l title team.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Dennis is likely to be the first Iowa guy up at 133.
McD isn’t going until noon-ish, most likely, since his opponent wrestled a pigtail match.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
McD's opponent will be Oregon State's Jason Lara, too.
He beat Morill 9-6.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Long won 8-2
The word is Fight, Fight, Fight for Iowa
OSU loses anothe mattch
_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)
by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
Yep, Triggas loses 8-7.
Bad start for them.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
McD won't have to worry about Rd. IV with Minny's Sanders...
unless McD falls into the conso bracket, too.
Sanders got upset by Va Tech’s Garnett, 17-6.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I assume so, yeah.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Lots of good news so far
I love seeing OSU go down.
The word is Fight, Fight, Fight for Iowa
Triggas loss being protested
_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)
by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions
You can do that?
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Well, when you're Ohio State...
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Valid point
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
They finally announced the protest was denied
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Do they know that it is THE Ohio State University protesting?
And that Sweatervest is their football coach? sounds like there are some people are undereducated there.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry
Gene Smith is on his way in the Buckeyemobile to raise hell. I have a feeling the scorekeepers will all suspiciously come down with a case of “nut poisoning” if you know what I mean . . . .
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone hitting up the tourney this weekend?
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
133: Dennis DEC Smith, 6-2
Solid start for Iowa.
I’m out for lunch; feel free to keep updating results in my absence.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Good job Dan
McDonough should be up any minute now
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions
Marion and McD both up right now
Marion up 2-0
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions
Marion up 6-3
3 TDs in first period.
The word is Fight, Fight, Fight for Iowa
Just FYI, but
the live stream at NCAA.com is pretty good. They haven’t shown much of the Iowa matches yet, but they talk about all of them.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions
16-0
first bonus points for the Hawks
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice work
shutout even.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
So I'm a bit miffed as to how a wrestler could win in a tech fall shutout.
Did he just continue to get back points after the initial takedown?
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
He also had around 5:00 of riding time, which is ridiculous with that many points
unfortunately they didn’t show it on the NCAA stream and didn’t talk much about it. I’m assuming you’re right, and his opponent started neutral (or McD got a reversal, I guess)
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone know when M* is going today?
I’m interested in seeing how the knee holds up in his first match.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
took the post right out of my keyboard
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I do not know
But I am interested as well. I think any points he’s able to get us could end up being big.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Nova is pulling an ISU right now at halftime.
I’m sure I’m not breaking any news, but in case someone isn’t paying attention to the basketball. Go Hampto . . . er . . . .Robert Morris. Whatever.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions
So you're saying I shouldn't have had them going to the final four in all my brackets?
Also did anyone else pick Montana is EVERTYTHING?
Well, usually this happens a few times every March
and the favorite ends up winning by 20. Plus it’s only halftime and I probably jinxed Robert Morris. So, you’re welcome, I guess.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually picked NM in a few brackets.
I felt dirty doing it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Maybe more greasy than dirty?
Like, hair gel greasy?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I do feel kind of sticky...
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kerr and Metcalf both up
Kerr tied 2-2, Metcalf up 9-4
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
Man he just bulled that guy over
I thought he would get the pin for sure.
13-6 now.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
that is huge
in a weight we didn’t have anyone last year
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that Dong
as in Long Duck?
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions
"If this is your first exposure to Dong . . . ."
Ok, so the announcer included his first name. Touche NCAA.com man. Touche. I wouldn’t have had the presence of mind to avoid that.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:52 PM CDT reply actions
Dong stuck his guy.
Dong really left it all on the mat.
Ok, I’m done.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions
PSU Sanderson wins 16-12
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions
UNC dude went in for a takedown
and all hell broke loose in Schaltter’s knee – in serious pain.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, what a shitty way for his career to end.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
hate to see a guy go down due to injury
No one likes to win that way
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
141: Marion DEC Von Ohlen, 11-8
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
149: Metcalf MAJ DEC Washington, 15-6
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
125: McD TECH FALL Lara, 16-0
Woo!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
157: Kerr DEC Edwards, 8-7
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
(sorry, just wanted to get the results out there in easy-to-read form if anyone's just scanning thru)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
keep doing it
I will have to go back to work sometime today and would appreciate it in the later matches
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Seeing all these upsets strike so far....
I think we are really fortunate to not have one up to this point. Maybe I should save my breath until after the morning star match.
I wouldn't feel like a M* loss would really be an upset
I wasn’t expecting anything from him and Kerr, so any points would seem positive.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I tend to agree.
I hope Morningstar can give us something, but I’m not expecting too much out of him.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
up right now
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW, in hoopyball updates (and feel free to talk about that in here too):
Robert Morris is leading Villanova, 40-34, halfway thru the 2nd half.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
My jinx hasn't come into play just yet.
Nova will be up by double digits at around the 6:00 minute mark, and I’ll feel like a douche.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, poop.
I think I sent ND fairly deep. I don’t remember, and can’t access my brackets from the office.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I muted the wrestling stream to watch the end of the ODU game
watching Notre Dame lose is always fun.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it over yet?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
ODU by 1 with 12.6 left and the ball I think...
Also Harongody looks weird….just like his face or something. Its funny looking.
Schedule & scoring?
Anywhere to find the time schedule and live scoring updates?
Hamilton said live scoring updates are against NCAA rules (not sure why)
so his blog isn’t as detailed as usual. The NCAA stream is really good, if you are in a position to watch it.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Against NCAA rules because they're even more anti-fun than the NFL.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Also not a bad listen if you can't watch it.
Plug the headphones in and follow along.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Like a match-by-match time schedule?
No.
The next session starts at 6:30.
Best bet for live scoring is probably the NCAA.com stream, Hamilton’s blog, or this site, although it’s crashing on me.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Fuck, Florida's winning?
That’s not good for my bracket.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Wow, that three was half way down.
ODU wins by 1.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
Headed to OT.
ISU’s Reader lost on a late TD. That’s an upset.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
shocking!
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I love that those two posts were back to back.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I guess Iowa wins are worth two more exclamation points than ISU losses in my book
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
How many exclamation pts is a Minny loss worth?
I think it should be at least 5, in honor of PLAY4BREW.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
and the knee looked pretty good!
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
165: Morningstar DEC Jones, 4-2 (OT)
Awesome.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And Robert Morris is still up 4, with under five to play
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
I guess there was good reason to doubt Nova’s 2 seed.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
8 point lead now with under four left
With BYU/FLA in OT, CBS must be freaking out over which game to show.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Borschel?
Is JayBo wrestling now?
Hamilton stepped away from his liveblog to talk to Morningstar.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Cheers.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
BYU/FLA into second OT.
Hopefully CBS switches to the Robert Morris game.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions
Why am I not watching a 2 seed tied with 1:30 left?????
I don’t live anywhere near Florida or Utah.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Under 1:00 left in that game and tied at 58
Goddammit I hate CBS. There’s still 3:30 left in the Florida game.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, right after I started streaming it online.
At least we’ll get to see the last shot. And now I know about the CBSsports stream.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Per Ryan Young
@rcyou Morningstar said the knee was tweaked a bit early, and the brace is the biggest issue.
Sorry, that was a bit vague.
Keddy with the quick TD, up 2-0.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I just realized you can stream it at CBSsports
just in time to watch Robert Morris choke their last possession
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It looks like it, although I don't know for sure
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Or NCAA.com
I love this set up. Show all the games. Put commercials in them. Why can’t all sports do this?
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 18, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
vs undefeated #1 seed from Boise State
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
now tied
announcers actually said “ISU trying to stop the bleeding.”
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That Reader loss was bad for them.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Had another wrestler lose while Ward was wrestling, too.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Burk, yeah.
Sorenson lost too.
Not a good morning for the ’Clones.
Jamie Pollard is… well, you know.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Three of our major challengers are hurting so far
ISU, O(hio)SU and Minny have struggled
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Smith dec over ISU's Ward 4-3
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck, I wish I'd called in sick now.
All three early hoops games sounds great.
Not to mention Iowa wrestling…
Bah humbug.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
80% of my office was on mandatory vacation this week.
Since I live the life of a customer support rep, I’ve got to be here. Oh well. 3 monitors makes it easy to keep up.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Days like today
Are the only upside to being laid off.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
sorry man
that sucks
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
My son and I say the same thing
_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)
by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
JayBo up 5-0 in 3rd?
not sure if I heard that correctly.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions
BYU pulling away against Florida.
I think I’m 2 for 2 on upsets so far.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions
Wait, that wasn't an upset
I’ll penalize myself the ODU win.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I love watching upsets
Unfortunately, I just realized that in my biggest-money pool, I have Nova in the title game. Oh well, I’ll still root for the 15
I always forget who I picked in the late rounds
So I cheer for upsets and then realize I was rooting against myself. I’ll take a 15 seed win over a bracket pool victory any day.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I kind of don't want them to win.
For schadenfreude’s sake.
I like ISU being the last 2-seed to lose the opener…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I definitely understand that as well
In fact, I like having that to throw at my ISU fan friends. Tough, tough call
True, although I haven't seen that highlight yet this year
which has always been the ultimate in schadenfreude. Hopefully it hasn’t run its course.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Have they showed the NW State shot yet?
That makes me want to hurl every time I see it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Last night some show on ESPN was doing a bracket full of buzzer beaters to see which one was best all-time....
…but the NWS shot was pretty ho-hum compared to most so they only showed it once or twice, compared to the many many replays of some of the beaters (that was my solice).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't even remember now...
was it a good look? It wasn’t like a crazy heave, was it?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
No they got a rebound
Which led to a good look from the corner. The initial shot was pretty contested and heave like.
I have not celebrated a pro championship in my life.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
(weep)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yah, weep is right
My buddies (all wisconsin fans as I went to college there) just left after that game and let me drink…it didn’t end well that night.
I have not celebrated a pro championship in my life.
If only there were an edit button, I might not suck so much.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Curse you, SBN software!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kind of hard to believe
That Florida won back-to-back titles just 3 seasons ago.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
No kidding.
This was the first year they made the tourney since winning that 2nd title, too.
There was an absolutely retarded rumor on one of the MBs about Donovan talking to Iowa b/c he was frustrated at some things at Florida. That rumor made no fucking sense.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He doesn't like being in Urban's shadow though
I think he is out of there though at a point that might be sooner than later (small children, great pay may hold him in the short term)
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Even so, why trade one football school for another in a vastly inferior recruiting territory?
Not to mention a much tougher conference, IMO.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well
He probably can’t go to the pros after that little stunt he pulled a few years ago.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
True.
And I love Iowa… but I gotta think there are (or will be) better college hoops jobs available for a 2-time national championship winning coach.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Florida football is only exceeded by Alabama football
in terms of coach worship (well, winning coach worship). Both those guys have statues. Do you see Iowa buiding a statue while the guy is STILL coaching?
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
I'm not making an argument that he is coming by the way
I am making an argument for him going though
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
184: Keddy MAJ DEC Salopek, 11-3
Hamilton says he’s starting to look like the Keddy of old. That would be great to see.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
excellent timing if true
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Team score update, per Hamilton:
1. Central Michigan 15;
2. Iowa 14.5;
3. Ohio State 13;
4. Oregon State 11.5;
5. Cornell 11.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think they'll fade eventually.
They have a lot of guys here, but not a lot of high seeds.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
They were one of four teams to qualify ten, according to the NCAA feed
Iowa
ISU
Oklahoma
CMU
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Who's left?
Dennis, Metcalf, Beatty, and Erickson?
174: Borschel DEC Giffin, 7-1
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
OT is not being very kind to Bob Morris.
I suppose it was inevitable he’d get worn down, though. 5-on-1 is brutally unfair.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Damn
I was waiting for the Jay Wright postgame interview: “Screw it, I’m going to Iowa.”
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and bringing some ballers as well
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa has already had a coach with a love of excessive hair gel usage
And it didn’t work out to well.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
The gel wasn't the problem there...
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Yeah...
…but Pat Forde (god I hate him with a dispassionate passion) did a breakdown of best and worst case scenarios for each tourny team, and in talking about Not-As-Old-As Mexico he made fun of Name Redacted for having a butt-cut for the last 30 years.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Alford has fooled the media
he always has…he is the kind of guy that looks good from far, but is far from good.
Like that?
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Watched some of Bob Morris
Scotty Reynolds got MJ calls the whole game. Three in row were out and out horrible calls.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Welcome to the last 3 years of the Big East
Reynolds and Harangody (ND) ALWAYS got a ton of phantom calls. Just glad both are seniors and have finally used up their 12 years of eligibility.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
you know...
I think most college basketball coaches are overrated. It is a sport where two good players can make you look like a genius. That is why recruiting is soooooo important and why a good coach (Ostensibly) like Lickliter looked so bad.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
then you have the Raveling situation
He could recruit is ass off but Dr. Tom took his players deeper into the tourney and had a better year.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Raveling might have done the same
we’ll never know. Raveling said at the time when he left that he knew he was leaving a potential juggernaut behind. But he was single and miserable socially in Iowa City. Plus USC was more his vibe, he was a big personality. Players loved him. I loved him. He spoke in one of my classes.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
true
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is the Iowa homer that is one of the announcers?
He is very well informed for our season at least.
not sure who but I heard him say he went to UNI
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
CORRECTION: Beatty up against Okie State's filthy Commie import.
U-S-A! U-S-A!
Do it for Ricky, Chad!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Beatty currently tied against Ivan Drago
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
In OT now
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
or as the annoucers are calling it "Sudden Victory"
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Betty goes down
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Why don't they put the wrestling championships
on like ESPNU or CSTV, isn’t that basically what channels like that exist for?
After today, all of the remaining sessions are on TV.
ESPNU tomorrow morning/evening and Sat. morn. ESPN Sat. nite.
I’m just glad they do the streaming online. BTN didn’t even do that for the first 2 rds of the B10s.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Thanks for the info
Unfortunately I don’t have ESPNU, but I figured for those that do, it would be nice to not have to watch an online stream
This is the first year they've streamed it online, too.
The world’s a-changin
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
God, Beatty is a monster.
I’ve seen the practice video and a lot of his past matches, but I’m still shocked ever time he walks out.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:04 PM CDT reply actions
The Robert Morris coach's head is about to explode.
I thought it was probably the right call though.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions
What the fuck just happened?
Ivan Drago thought the match was over.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
197: Gelogaev DEC Beatty, 4-2 (OT)
Boooo.
1st Iowa loss of the tourney. Fuck. Chad’s gonna have a lot of work to do in the consolation bracket now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Damn commies!
_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)
by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions
Stazi will have his chance to "fix" this
He will have his chance
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He's in Korea until at least Monday.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 18, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's got time (and Commies) to kill...
Maybe he can just send Ace on an errand.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I heard Hockeybear isn't busy this week . . . .
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No no no..
HOCKEYBEAR would leave the Qwest Center a smoking ruin — too much collateral damage like Metcalf, Brands, Gable, McD, Erekson, JayBo, etc.
We need someone who can strike with surgical precision.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Like Timothy Olyphant?
Between Justified, Deadwood, and Hitman, he’s got to be a pretty good shot. I’m sure he’d be up for an assassination job.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He works.
I hope he doesn’t give him 24 hrs notice before he shoots him, though…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, if we can get him into Omaha today
He could potentially shoot him before Beatty runs into him in the consos, which might be nice.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
People that know a lot more than me seem to think Chad got screwed
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions
Somebody on Miller's site says shots were 16-2
in Chad’s favor and Gelogaev didn’t get called for stalling.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Robert Morris just lost.
By 3 in OT. Desperation 3 hit the rim & bounced out.
"Do a flip!" - Bender B. Rodriguez
That was a fucking terrible "play" they ran with 9 seconds left
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, good D, but RoMo looked pretty panicky.
Still, helluva a game. Nova got lucky.
"Do a flip!" - Bender B. Rodriguez
by Bucketochicken on Mar 18, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
A 3-pointer, I guess?
"Do a flip!" - Bender B. Rodriguez
by Bucketochicken on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Way too heave-y. Needed to be more shotty.
"Do a flip!" - Bender B. Rodriguez
by Bucketochicken on Mar 18, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes the shotties lead to the heaveies.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
win
"Do a flip!" - Bender B. Rodriguez
by Bucketochicken on Mar 18, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
TEAM SCORE UPDATE
1. Iowa 19.5;
2. CMU 15;
3. Ohio State 13;
4. Oklahoma State 12.
Take THAT, Chippewas.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
In semi-related news.
Reggie Evans wants to come to IC to help Bloodpunch find a new coach. @ReggieEvans30
Now we're cookin'.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
my computer conked
i was going to say most of these coaches are overrated. It is a sport where two players can make you look like a genius.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
In terms of X and Os, sure. But coaches are also the biggest reason a team gets those players
This is why I really like Barbee. I have no idea what he’s like in terms of game planning and such, but he’s absolutely a proven recruiter, which is what we really need.
now 7-3
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Magrum from tOSU defeated
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions
Hwt: Erekson DEC Jack, 11-6
So, Hawks go 9-1 in Round One. Not perfect, but not too bad. I thought the Commie would be a tough match-up for Chad and indeed he was. Sounds like Beatty was in on a zillion shots and just couldn’t finish them. Sucks for him, but hopefully he can bounce back in the consolation bracket.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This has to be considered a success
shit happens in the first round…hopefully we will get rolling and not get complacent.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Yeah, can't complain too much.
ISU went 5-5 in the first round.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yikes...team scores anyone? or is 1st round still going?
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
This was the last one I saw.
1. Iowa 19.5;
2. CMU 15;
3. Ohio State 13;
4. Oklahoma State 12.
I don’t think that’s updated to the end of Round One, though.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That is a great first round lead if it stays that way...
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
So is there another session this evening?
Are we done for the afternoon?
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Yes and yes.
Session II starts at 6:30 CST.
Just roundball to chat about for the rest of the afternoon.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Keno isn't coming to Iowa
thankfully…he just snagged a big recruit who he told no way he is going to Iowa. I think he probably has not been contacted so he just got ahead of it.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Yeah.
I still think the best take on Keno was in the podcast this week. If he was Keno Smith, no one here would want him. When your best qualification is that your dad was a good coach at a place…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I like his offensive style...
but his defense is atrocious…we must have been playing outside during the defensive drills by his dad.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Bilas was absolutely appalled by Providence's def during one of the Big East games last week.
He just unloaded on ’em.
Bad defense seems like a recipe for disaster in the Big Ten.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So, is "Sudden Victory" the new PC term to use?
I noticed they were saying that during the big ten tournament too
Yeah, I'm not sure where it started.
I heard it for the first time at an MMA event a couple years back. They wanted to avoid “sudden death” for obvious reasons.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It was that or
Abrupt Success…they went with Sudden Victory.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
That's what they call the first OT period, since the first scoring move in it wins the match.
If it’s still tied after that OT period, they go to a second OT period with different rules.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Which eliminates most of the confusion.
SV1, OT1 and so on. I enjoy the extra time rules in wrestling.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, they also don't chop off the loser's head any more.
There were some complaints about it, I guess.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
just another example of watering down the sport for the masses...
by derp derp derp on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Brands and Gable were in opposition to the rule change.
But they were sadly overruled. I blame hippies. Or the French. I’m sure one of them is to blame.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Either is better than
“slow, horrifying, tortuous death”, which basically only appeared in Iowa games this season.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So Vandy loses this first round game
does Stallings then consider the Iowa job?
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
I guess that would depend.
Is making the tournament and losing better than not making the NIT?
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Losing as a 4 seed never is met with enthusiasm.
even if you have no business being a 4 seed.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
per Andy Hamilton • Iowa City Press-Citizen
Team standings at the conclusion of the first round:
1. Iowa 21.5;
2. Oklahoma State 16;
3. (tie) Central Michigan, Lehigh, Wisconsin 15;
6. Cornell 14;
7. (tie) Iowa State, Ohio State 13;
9. Oregon State 11.5;
10. (tie) Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma 11.
Am I correct in my deduction that
O(klahoma)SU and Cornell are our main competitors at this point, in terms of chances to win the team title?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that's true, yeah.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
TEAM SCORES AFTER RD 1
1. Iowa 21.5;
2. Oklahoma State 16;
3. (tie) Central Michigan, Lehigh, Wisconsin 15;
6. Cornell 14; 7
. (tie) Iowa State, Ohio State 13;
9. Oregon State 11.5;
10. (tie) Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma 11.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Which one do I believe?
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Mine are from Hamilton too.
derp’s are just formatted better.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Which ever one puts the Hawkeyes in the bigger lead
A tie goes to the runner also.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Two tie, all tie?
Like skins…
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
How about...
Sudden rock, paper ,scissors so no one gets physically harmed in the making of this blog
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Probably the entire Midwest I would presume
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
KSU/KU/MU
Just be happy you don’t live in KS/MO. The only reason I’d like to see Missouri in the Big Ten is so I don’t have to hear Big 12 talk 24/7.
i am in KC, so bball is all the rage,
by the way I polled every Mizzou fan @wrk, they all would leave the Big 12 in a second (&be rid of the texas schools & pain in the ass dan bebee, their dumbass commish).
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 18, 2010 3:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what I've heard here too
On the other hand, and surprisingly, most NE fans I’ve talked to have said that even though the TX domination sucks they think the Big Ten is so inferior that they’d rather deal with TX.
i'm up north. not too far from Jarroyd Cole's hm town
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I used to buy my weed from a dude on the plaza.
That guy had great shit.
At this point, Iowa should just declare themselves the world's 1st professional wrestling team and give the rest of the NCAA a chance.
Nebraska is in the Big 12 north
Talk about inferior!
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
if you have a DTV converter
the local CBS will show an alternate gm.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Mar 18, 2010 3:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who schedules time to do taxes during the tournament?
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Now, are you doing the taxes or having them done?
Cause that’s two different situations.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Well, maybe Iowa will have its coach before the end of the tournament, after all.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The Pearl and Stallings talk confuses the hell out of me
Why do people think that coaches who turned us down three years ago are going to be suddenly at all interested now when the Iowa job in unquestionably worse than it was back then?
I have no idea.
SMA mentioned it earlier, and “Stormy” and HS discussed it on the podcast. I don’t think it’s likely to happen, but I don’t really pay attention to basketball so I’m just feeding the machine.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I NEVER said Pearl would take the Iowa job
I may have said there was talk he wasn’t happy at Tenn being third fiddle or he got some heat form the gun toters…but I don’t think predict he will take the Iowa Job. I just think he will be asked and should be asked. Three years is a very long time.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
No, not Pearl.
I was just making reference to your inquiry about Stallings earlier today. I wasn’t trying to hang you out there. I don’t think anyone honestly believes that Pearl will come to Iowa City.
by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He shouldn't
really…he’s kind of in a perfect spot. If he wins he gets attention and if he loses he’s not the heart of happiness for the school.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Pearl that is...
Stallings…is a whole ’nother ball game. He could leave…why not? Vandy is the end of the line no more than Iowa is.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
I agree
I lived in Tennessee for awhile. It all revolves around Football. The only problem now is is that there football program is in some sort of disaray. Especially for them.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
I love that people bring this up like it's been any different here
There may have been a point where this was a basketball school, but this decade it’s not even close. Football is king, and I don’t see that changing any time soon. Anyone we hire is solidly in the shadow of Ferentz, and maybe Brands too (although I think if things get turned around that changes real quick. Wrestling is big but it can’t compete with a good basketball program)
Agreed.
Brands will, at best, be a cult figure around here; a very popular one, but still just a cult figure.
The ceiling for a successful basketball coach is much, much higher.
And it would take either (maybe both) a significant amount of backsliding from the football program or an incredible improvement from the basketball program to make this anything but a football school for the forseeable future.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
How is it worse?
The practice facility is no longer just an empty promise.
CHA’s getting renovated so that it hopefully won’t be a fucking mausoleum.
There’s better talent in place and it’s all pretty young (save Cole).
The BTN is up and running and pumping millions of dollars into the athletic department.
These are all things Barta couldn’t say three years ago.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Also...Big Ten expansion
might destroy to the Big East or Big 12…this is a vey good job and with Barta’s ass on the line I don’t hink he will be miserly on pay either. And, he will move heaven and earth to make it work.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Actually, I recant that about the talent.
The current talent is younger and has more potential, but it’s probably not actually better right now than what Lick inherited.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I agree...
Barta has to sell it as a rebuilding job though because the new coach won’t really bring in a lot of his own peeps until two years from now. So we have to hire someone who likes and will work with these guys. The Lickliter “I only like my own guys” model cannot happen again.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
If the new coach doesn't have a detailed plan
for former Iowa Mr. Basketball Cougill then I don’t want him.
I think the renovations inside CHA might be bad
The conversion of the retractable seats into some sort of club/box dealy isn’t smart from a crowd noise perspective. That being said, there aren’t really much details about what’s going on inside the seating area so I could be wrong in my interpretation of the renovations.
The new locker room and practice facilities could be a major boost to recruiting.
Yeah, I'm a little vague on the reseating and whatnot.
Could it really make it worse or less quiet, though?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think the team is worse than it was when Lick took over
And the fanbase is more apathetic than it has ever been. Trying to get people back into that building is a tough sell. It’s not a mausoleum because of the way it’s designed, it’s a mausoleum because it’s fucking empty. A renovation isn’t going to change that.
Also we just fired a coach after only 3 years
Before that we had a reputation for patience with coaches. That’s gone.
What good coach ever thinks he's going to fail?
And I would hope Barta could explain the circumstances that led to this 3-year termination. He’s also presumably looking for someone who won’t make the same mistakes — i.e., someone who will actually be able to connect with the players and not drive them off year after year. The W/L record and empty CHA made Lick’s seat hot, but the transfer problem got him the boot. I still believe he would’ve gotten a fourth year if not for the transfer issue.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Talent-wise, it's possibly worse.
But this group has more potential than the group Lickliter inherited.
Drawing fans could be an issue, but I don’t see it seriously turning a coach away — the biggest thing that will bring fans back is winning, which is presumably what the coach is also most worried about.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Right, but to win you need to get talent
And it’s not easy to sell kids on trying to play in the middle of nowhere (I love IC, but it’s true) in front of practically non-existent crowds. Which is what the new coach is going to have to do. Fan support is a big deal.
That's true.
But it’s chicken/egg argument. Good recruiters get kids, even with empty stadiums.
I mean, K-State’s basketball tradition was in the fucking dumps until Huggins resurrected it.
I agree that it won’t be easy, though.
And I should say that I don’t think the situation now is BETTER. I think it’s mostly just a wash — a few things might be worse, but there are also certain positives that Barta can point to now that he couldn’t before.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Is Bob Stoops available?
I hear he’s interested, I heard from a friend of my cousin’s boyfriend’s sister’s roommate was standing next to Barta and overheard him saying Stoops wanted the job.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Maybe my favorite thing about that play
is the referee being super-animated about how the shot was only a 2-pointer
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
He was signalling to the scorer that the shot got off before the buzzer
What, he should just stand there and keep everyone in suspense?
by Brock Sampson on Mar 18, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He needs his 15 minutes of fame
Better that way than some bullshit foul call I guess
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
An Ed Hightower disciple.
I see.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, he would have gone with the bullshit foul call.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
And then
he would have spent 5 minutes explaining the call to both benches while making sure the camera was on him at all times
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
That picture of him
looking at the video monitor which shows him looking at the video monitor is priceless
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He wasn't quite as animated as Frank Drebin.
In the umpire scene in Naked Gun.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Well that's just because
No one does the moon walk anymore.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I know this is the NCAA wrestling/bball thread
but is it wrong if I giggle in the direction of Northwestern?
It never gets to be easy
As long as you're laughing at them and not with them.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
NOTE
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

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