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WE'RE TALKIN' WRESTLING: NCAA Tourney, Session I

Session I (including both the first-round "pigtail" matches and the first round matches) begins at 11am CST.  No TV coverage, but there's a live stream at NCAA.com.  There's also radio coverage (KXIC if you're in or around Iowa City; Hawkeye All-Access ($) via the intewebs otherwise) or liveblogs/Twitter updates.  Liveblogs: Andy Hamilton at Hawk Central; KJ Pilcher at the Gazoo.  Twitter: (P-C) Andy_Hamilton, (Gazoo) kjpilcher, (DI) jtbugos and rcyou.

Why is Brent Metcalf the fucking man?  Oh yeah.  From Andy Hamilton's excellent profile of Metcalf:

He's been the face of the franchise for the college wrestling's most visible team. He's been one of the sport's most polarizing figures. He's a fierce competitor who has been loved by Iowa fans and loathed by the haters of the Hawkeyes.

"Win or lose, he's the talk of wrestling because of the way he competes," said Mark Perry, Metcalf's former teammate at Iowa and current assistant at Cal Poly. "Brent is one of the nicest, most down-to-Earth people I've met ... but he has a bad rep because of the way he competes, and it was the same with the Brands brothers, it was the same with (Royce) Alger, it's the same as anybody who's a good competitor. If you're a good competitor, people want to knock you down. He doesn't deserve it, but that's what comes with being successful."

Metcalf has been one of the most instrumental pieces to Iowa's rise back to the top, a lynchpin to the Hawkeyes' bid for a third consecutive national title. He begins his personal quest for his second NCAA title today at the Qwest Center in Omaha, and if he gets it, Metcalf will finish his college career with the second-best winning percentage in Iowa history.

Make with the clicky and read the rest of the article, too, because (a) Hamilton's good people and he deserves the hits and (b) it's a great article filled with lots of interesting stories about Metcalf, one of the most interesting and dominant Iowa athletes of the past decade.  Savor his matches these next few days; they're the last time you'll get to see Metcalf (as well as the other six seniors in the lineup) in action in Iowa singlets. 

So how good was this group of seniors?  Pretty damn good, as KJ Pilcher explains in the Gazoo:

This group has the chance to go unblemished — winning every dual, the Midlands Championships, NWCA National Duals, the Big Ten Championships and the NCAA Championships — a second straight year. They already hold Iowa records for most consecutive dual wins (61) and road dual victories (41). A third straight NCAA crown, which would be Iowa’s 23rd, can cement this class’ place in Iowa history. The Hawkeyes want to finish strong.

And, amazingly, to this point they've done it all with only one national champion (Metcalf), although the first national champion team (2007-2008) also featured Mark Perry as a national champion.  Hopefully they add a few more national champions this weekend to really cement their legacy as one of the finest groups of wrestlers in Iowa history.

FIRST ROUND MATCHES
125 - #3 Matt McDonough TECH FALL (16-0) Jason Lara (Oregon State)
133 - #2 Dan Dennis DEC (6-2) Kevin Smith (Buffalo)
141 - #6 Montell Marion DEC (11-8) Cole Von Ohlen (Air Force)
149 - #2 Brent Metcalf MAJ DEC (15-6) Trenton Washington (UNI)
157 - UN Jake Kerr DEC (8-7) Tejovan Edwards (Arizona State)
165 - #7 Ryan Morningstar DEC (4-2, OT) Donald Jones (West Virginia)
174 - #2 Jay Borschel DEC (7-1) Scott Giffin (Penn)
184 - #9 Phil Keddy MAJ DEC (11-3) Michael Salopek (Virginia)
197 - Alan Gelogaev (Okie State) DEC (4-2, 2OT) #9 Chad Beatty
Hwt - #5 Dan Erekson DEC (11-6) Clayton Jack (Oregon State)

TEAM SCORE AFTER ROUND ONE

1. Iowa 21.5
2. Oklahoma State 16
3. (tie) Central Michigan, Lehigh, Wisconsin 15
6. Cornell 14
7. (tie) Iowa State, Ohio State 13
9. Oregon State 11.5
10. (tie) Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma 11

Star-divide

HISTORY AGAINST OPP.
125: McD's never faced either guy before.
133: Dennis has never faced Smith before.
141: Marion has never faced Van Ohlen before.
149: Metcalf has never faced Washington before (Washington was at 141 earlier; Marion pinned him at this year's Iowa-UNI dual.)
157: Kerr has never faced Edwards before.
165: Morningstar DEC Jones, 7-5 (OT) (2009 NCAA Tournament)
174: Borschel has never faced Giffin before.
184: Keddy has never faced Salopek before.
197: Beatty has never faced Gelogaev before; Gelogaev DEC Luke Lofthouse (3-2) at the Iowa-OSU dual this year.
Hwt: Erekson has never faced Jack before.

NCAA TOURNAMENT SCORING

1st: 16pts
2nd: 12pts
3rd: 10pts
4th: 9pts
5th: 7pts
6th: 6pts
7th: 4pts
8th: 3pts

Bonus points:
Fall, Forfeit, DQ, Default: 2pts
Tech Fall (w/ nearfall points): 1.5pts
Tech Fall (w/o nearfall points) and Major Decision: 1pt

Advancement points:
Championship side: 1pt
Bye followed by win on Championship side: 1pt
Consolation side: .5pt
Bye followed by win on Consolation side: .5pt

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Pucillo loses in pigtail match

_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)

by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey, so it started already?

I blame the leprechauns. Takin’ me gold, plying me with booze, and scrambling my brain. Bastards.

Anyway, not exactly a huge upset (Miller’s really good and Pucillo’s struggled mightily this year), but Pucillo lost his “pigtail” match, so he’s already down in the conso bracket. Needless to say, this isn’t gonna help OSU’s odds of being a dark horse nat’l title team.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Dennis is likely to be the first Iowa guy up at 133.

McD isn’t going until noon-ish, most likely, since his opponent wrestled a pigtail match.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

McD's opponent will be Oregon State's Jason Lara, too.

He beat Morill 9-6.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

OSU loses anothe mattch

_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)

by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep, Triggas loses 8-7.

Bad start for them.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

McD won't have to worry about Rd. IV with Minny's Sanders...

unless McD falls into the conso bracket, too.

Sanders got upset by Va Tech’s Garnett, 17-6.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I assume so, yeah.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lots of good news so far

I love seeing OSU go down.

The word is Fight, Fight, Fight for Iowa

by fightforiowa on Mar 18, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Triggas loss being protested

_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)

by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

You can do that?

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Mar 18, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, when you're Ohio State...

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Valid point

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Mar 18, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do they know that it is THE Ohio State University protesting?

And that Sweatervest is their football coach? sounds like there are some people are undereducated there.

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

Gene Smith is on his way in the Buckeyemobile to raise hell. I have a feeling the scorekeepers will all suspiciously come down with a case of “nut poisoning” if you know what I mean . . . .

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone hitting up the tourney this weekend?

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Mar 18, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

133: Dennis DEC Smith, 6-2

Solid start for Iowa.

I’m out for lunch; feel free to keep updating results in my absence.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Good job Dan

McDonough should be up any minute now

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Marion up 6-3

3 TDs in first period.

The word is Fight, Fight, Fight for Iowa

by fightforiowa on Mar 18, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Just FYI, but

the live stream at NCAA.com is pretty good. They haven’t shown much of the Iowa matches yet, but they talk about all of them.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

16-0

first bonus points for the Hawks

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice work

shutout even.

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Mar 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

He also had around 5:00 of riding time, which is ridiculous with that many points

unfortunately they didn’t show it on the NCAA stream and didn’t talk much about it. I’m assuming you’re right, and his opponent started neutral (or McD got a reversal, I guess)

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone know when M* is going today?

I’m interested in seeing how the knee holds up in his first match.

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Mar 18, 2010 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

took the post right out of my keyboard

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do not know

But I am interested as well. I think any points he’s able to get us could end up being big.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nova is pulling an ISU right now at halftime.

I’m sure I’m not breaking any news, but in case someone isn’t paying attention to the basketball. Go Hampto . . . er . . . .Robert Morris. Whatever.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I actually picked NM in a few brackets.

I felt dirty doing it.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do feel kind of sticky...

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great effort for Kerr.

Every championship bracket win we can rack up is huge.

by Argulor on Mar 18, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is huge

in a weight we didn’t have anyone last year

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that Dong

as in Long Duck?

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

"If this is your first exposure to Dong . . . ."

Ok, so the announcer included his first name. Touche NCAA.com man. Touche. I wouldn’t have had the presence of mind to avoid that.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

You beat me to the punch

after that he said “take some notes”. That was great

by RonMaDon on Mar 18, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Dong stuck his guy.

Dong really left it all on the mat.

Ok, I’m done.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

PSU Sanderson wins 16-12

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

UNC dude went in for a takedown

and all hell broke loose in Schaltter’s knee – in serious pain.

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, what a shitty way for his career to end.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

hate to see a guy go down due to injury

No one likes to win that way

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

141: Marion DEC Von Ohlen, 11-8

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

149: Metcalf MAJ DEC Washington, 15-6

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

125: McD TECH FALL Lara, 16-0

Woo!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

157: Kerr DEC Edwards, 8-7

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

(sorry, just wanted to get the results out there in easy-to-read form if anyone's just scanning thru)

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

keep doing it

I will have to go back to work sometime today and would appreciate it in the later matches

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will do.

I’ll also update the main post a little later too.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seeing all these upsets strike so far....

I think we are really fortunate to not have one up to this point. Maybe I should save my breath until after the morning star match.

by Argulor on Mar 18, 2010 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Indeed.

Just keep doing what we’re doing and let everyone else stumble…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't feel like a M* loss would really be an upset

I wasn’t expecting anything from him and Kerr, so any points would seem positive.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tend to agree.

I hope Morningstar can give us something, but I’m not expecting too much out of him.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

up right now

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, in hoopyball updates (and feel free to talk about that in here too):

Robert Morris is leading Villanova, 40-34, halfway thru the 2nd half.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

My jinx hasn't come into play just yet.

Nova will be up by double digits at around the 6:00 minute mark, and I’ll feel like a douche.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

They made a run

At the start of the half. Also ODU is about to beat Notre Dame.

by RonMaDon on Mar 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, poop.

I think I sent ND fairly deep. I don’t remember, and can’t access my brackets from the office.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Schedule & scoring?

Anywhere to find the time schedule and live scoring updates?

by Hawklyn on Mar 18, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Hamilton said live scoring updates are against NCAA rules (not sure why)

so his blog isn’t as detailed as usual. The NCAA stream is really good, if you are in a position to watch it.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Against NCAA rules because they're even more anti-fun than the NFL.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like a match-by-match time schedule?

No.

The next session starts at 6:30.

Best bet for live scoring is probably the NCAA.com stream, Hamilton’s blog, or this site, although it’s crashing on me.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

NWCA

NWCA hasn’t been working for me either.

by Hawklyn on Mar 18, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck, Florida's winning?

That’s not good for my bracket.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow.

That game has had some huge swings. Both teams up by 10.

by RonMaDon on Mar 18, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Headed to OT.

ISU’s Reader lost on a late TD. That’s an upset.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

165: Morningstar DEC Jones, 4-2 (OT)

Awesome.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Borschel?

Is JayBo wrestling now?

Hamilton stepped away from his liveblog to talk to Morningstar.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Cheers.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Per Ryan Young

@rcyou Morningstar said the knee was tweaked a bit early, and the brace is the biggest issue.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I just realized you can stream it at CBSsports

just in time to watch Robert Morris choke their last possession

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Just as CBS gets smart and switches over. Robert Morris just give it away?

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

vs undefeated #1 seed from Boise State

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

now tied

announcers actually said “ISU trying to stop the bleeding.”

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Reader loss was bad for them.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Burk, yeah.

Sorenson lost too.

Not a good morning for the ’Clones.

Jamie Pollard is… well, you know.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smith dec over ISU's Ward 4-3

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck, I wish I'd called in sick now.

All three early hoops games sounds great.

Not to mention Iowa wrestling…

Bah humbug.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

80% of my office was on mandatory vacation this week.

Since I live the life of a customer support rep, I’ve got to be here. Oh well. 3 monitors makes it easy to keep up.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Days like today

Are the only upside to being laid off.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry man

that sucks

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

My son and I say the same thing

_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)

by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

JayBo up 5-0 in 3rd?

not sure if I heard that correctly.

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I love watching upsets

Unfortunately, I just realized that in my biggest-money pool, I have Nova in the title game. Oh well, I’ll still root for the 15

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always forget who I picked in the late rounds

So I cheer for upsets and then realize I was rooting against myself. I’ll take a 15 seed win over a bracket pool victory any day.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of don't want them to win.

For schadenfreude’s sake.

I like ISU being the last 2-seed to lose the opener…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely understand that as well

In fact, I like having that to throw at my ISU fan friends. Tough, tough call

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, although I haven't seen that highlight yet this year

which has always been the ultimate in schadenfreude. Hopefully it hasn’t run its course.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have they showed the NW State shot yet?

That makes me want to hurl every time I see it.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last night some show on ESPN was doing a bracket full of buzzer beaters to see which one was best all-time....

…but the NWS shot was pretty ho-hum compared to most so they only showed it once or twice, compared to the many many replays of some of the beaters (that was my solice).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't even remember now...

was it a good look? It wasn’t like a crazy heave, was it?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No they got a rebound

Which led to a good look from the corner. The initial shot was pretty contested and heave like.

I have not celebrated a pro championship in my life.

by Wad on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I thought.

(weep)

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, weep is right

My buddies (all wisconsin fans as I went to college there) just left after that game and let me drink…it didn’t end well that night.

I have not celebrated a pro championship in my life.

by Wad on Mar 18, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Curse you, SBN software!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, that's alright

We all suck at teh interwebz sumtimez lololz

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kind of hard to believe

That Florida won back-to-back titles just 3 seasons ago.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding.

This was the first year they made the tourney since winning that 2nd title, too.

There was an absolutely retarded rumor on one of the MBs about Donovan talking to Iowa b/c he was frustrated at some things at Florida. That rumor made no fucking sense.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't like being in Urban's shadow though

I think he is out of there though at a point that might be sooner than later (small children, great pay may hold him in the short term)

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even so, why trade one football school for another in a vastly inferior recruiting territory?

Not to mention a much tougher conference, IMO.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

He probably can’t go to the pros after that little stunt he pulled a few years ago.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

True.

And I love Iowa… but I gotta think there are (or will be) better college hoops jobs available for a 2-time national championship winning coach.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Florida football is only exceeded by Alabama football

in terms of coach worship (well, winning coach worship). Both those guys have statues. Do you see Iowa buiding a statue while the guy is STILL coaching?

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not making an argument that he is coming by the way

I am making an argument for him going though

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

184: Keddy MAJ DEC Salopek, 11-3

Hamilton says he’s starting to look like the Keddy of old. That would be great to see.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

excellent timing if true

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Team score update, per Hamilton:

1. Central Michigan 15;
2. Iowa 14.5;
3. Ohio State 13;
4. Oregon State 11.5;
5. Cornell 11.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Is CMU suppose to be a serious challenger?

Or will they probably fade as the day goes on?

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they'll fade eventually.

They have a lot of guys here, but not a lot of high seeds.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

174: Borschel DEC Giffin, 7-1

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

OT is not being very kind to Bob Morris.

I suppose it was inevitable he’d get worn down, though. 5-on-1 is brutally unfair.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn

I was waiting for the Jay Wright postgame interview: “Screw it, I’m going to Iowa.”

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

and bringing some ballers as well

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa has already had a coach with a love of excessive hair gel usage

And it didn’t work out to well.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

The gel wasn't the problem there...

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Granted

But it doesn’t help. Jay Wright’s really overrated though.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

…but Pat Forde (god I hate him with a dispassionate passion) did a breakdown of best and worst case scenarios for each tourny team, and in talking about Not-As-Old-As Mexico he made fun of Name Redacted for having a butt-cut for the last 30 years.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alford has fooled the media

he always has…he is the kind of guy that looks good from far, but is far from good.

Like that?

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watched some of Bob Morris

Scotty Reynolds got MJ calls the whole game. Three in row were out and out horrible calls.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the last 3 years of the Big East

Reynolds and Harangody (ND) ALWAYS got a ton of phantom calls. Just glad both are seniors and have finally used up their 12 years of eligibility.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know...

I think most college basketball coaches are overrated. It is a sport where two good players can make you look like a genius. That is why recruiting is soooooo important and why a good coach (Ostensibly) like Lickliter looked so bad.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's more than a little truth to that

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

then you have the Raveling situation

He could recruit is ass off but Dr. Tom took his players deeper into the tourney and had a better year.

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Raveling might have done the same

we’ll never know. Raveling said at the time when he left that he knew he was leaving a potential juggernaut behind. But he was single and miserable socially in Iowa City. Plus USC was more his vibe, he was a big personality. Players loved him. I loved him. He spoke in one of my classes.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beatty up against Okie State.

Sounds like they’ll be on the video stream, as well.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

not sure who but I heard him say he went to UNI

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

CORRECTION: Beatty up against Okie State's filthy Commie import.

U-S-A! U-S-A!

Do it for Ricky, Chad!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

In OT now

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

or as the annoucers are calling it "Sudden Victory"

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Betty goes down

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why don't they put the wrestling championships

on like ESPNU or CSTV, isn’t that basically what channels like that exist for?

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

After today, all of the remaining sessions are on TV.

ESPNU tomorrow morning/evening and Sat. morn. ESPN Sat. nite.

I’m just glad they do the streaming online. BTN didn’t even do that for the first 2 rds of the B10s.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

Unfortunately I don’t have ESPNU, but I figured for those that do, it would be nice to not have to watch an online stream

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

God, Beatty is a monster.

I’ve seen the practice video and a lot of his past matches, but I’m still shocked ever time he walks out.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

197: Gelogaev DEC Beatty, 4-2 (OT)

Boooo.

1st Iowa loss of the tourney. Fuck. Chad’s gonna have a lot of work to do in the consolation bracket now.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn commies!

_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)

by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Stanzi must not be in attendance

he would never allow something like that to occur

by Brock8144 on Mar 18, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stazi will have his chance to "fix" this

He will have his chance

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got time (and Commies) to kill...

Maybe he can just send Ace on an errand.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

No no no..

HOCKEYBEAR would leave the Qwest Center a smoking ruin — too much collateral damage like Metcalf, Brands, Gable, McD, Erekson, JayBo, etc.

We need someone who can strike with surgical precision.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Timothy Olyphant?

Between Justified, Deadwood, and Hitman, he’s got to be a pretty good shot. I’m sure he’d be up for an assassination job.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He works.

I hope he doesn’t give him 24 hrs notice before he shoots him, though…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if we can get him into Omaha today

He could potentially shoot him before Beatty runs into him in the consos, which might be nice.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

TEAM SCORE UPDATE

1. Iowa 19.5;
2. CMU 15;
3. Ohio State 13;
4. Oklahoma State 12.

Take THAT, Chippewas.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

In semi-related news.

Reggie Evans wants to come to IC to help Bloodpunch find a new coach. @ReggieEvans30

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Now we're cookin'.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

my computer conked

i was going to say most of these coaches are overrated. It is a sport where two players can make you look like a genius.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

In terms of X and Os, sure. But coaches are also the biggest reason a team gets those players

This is why I really like Barbee. I have no idea what he’s like in terms of game planning and such, but he’s absolutely a proven recruiter, which is what we really need.

by NorseHawk on Mar 18, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

now 7-3

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Magrum from tOSU defeated

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 18, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Hwt: Erekson DEC Jack, 11-6

So, Hawks go 9-1 in Round One. Not perfect, but not too bad. I thought the Commie would be a tough match-up for Chad and indeed he was. Sounds like Beatty was in on a zillion shots and just couldn’t finish them. Sucks for him, but hopefully he can bounce back in the consolation bracket.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

This has to be considered a success

shit happens in the first round…hopefully we will get rolling and not get complacent.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, can't complain too much.

ISU went 5-5 in the first round.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes...team scores anyone? or is 1st round still going?

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was the last one I saw.

1. Iowa 19.5;
2. CMU 15;
3. Ohio State 13;
4. Oklahoma State 12.

I don’t think that’s updated to the end of Round One, though.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is a great first round lead if it stays that way...

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

So is there another session this evening?

Are we done for the afternoon?

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Mar 18, 2010 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes and yes.

Session II starts at 6:30 CST.

Just roundball to chat about for the rest of the afternoon.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keno isn't coming to Iowa

thankfully…he just snagged a big recruit who he told no way he is going to Iowa. I think he probably has not been contacted so he just got ahead of it.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I still think the best take on Keno was in the podcast this week. If he was Keno Smith, no one here would want him. When your best qualification is that your dad was a good coach at a place…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like his offensive style...

but his defense is atrocious…we must have been playing outside during the defensive drills by his dad.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bilas was absolutely appalled by Providence's def during one of the Big East games last week.

He just unloaded on ’em.

Bad defense seems like a recipe for disaster in the Big Ten.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, is "Sudden Victory" the new PC term to use?

I noticed they were saying that during the big ten tournament too

by derp derp derp on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not sure where it started.

I heard it for the first time at an MMA event a couple years back. They wanted to avoid “sudden death” for obvious reasons.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was that or

Abrupt Success…they went with Sudden Victory.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what they call the first OT period, since the first scoring move in it wins the match.

If it’s still tied after that OT period, they go to a second OT period with different rules.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which eliminates most of the confusion.

SV1, OT1 and so on. I enjoy the extra time rules in wrestling.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, they also don't chop off the loser's head any more.

There were some complaints about it, I guess.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brands and Gable were in opposition to the rule change.

But they were sadly overruled. I blame hippies. Or the French. I’m sure one of them is to blame.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either is better than

“slow, horrifying, tortuous death”, which basically only appeared in Iowa games this season.

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Vandy loses this first round game

does Stallings then consider the Iowa job?

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess that would depend.

Is making the tournament and losing better than not making the NIT?

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Losing as a 4 seed never is met with enthusiasm.

even if you have no business being a 4 seed.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

per Andy Hamilton • Iowa City Press-Citizen

Team standings at the conclusion of the first round:
1. Iowa 21.5;
2. Oklahoma State 16;
3. (tie) Central Michigan, Lehigh, Wisconsin 15;
6. Cornell 14;
7. (tie) Iowa State, Ohio State 13;
9. Oregon State 11.5;
10. (tie) Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma 11.

by derp derp derp on Mar 18, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Am I correct in my deduction that

O(klahoma)SU and Cornell are our main competitors at this point, in terms of chances to win the team title?

by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 18, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's true, yeah.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

TEAM SCORES AFTER RD 1

1. Iowa 21.5;
2. Oklahoma State 16;
3. (tie) Central Michigan, Lehigh, Wisconsin 15;
6. Cornell 14; 7
. (tie) Iowa State, Ohio State 13;
9. Oregon State 11.5;
10. (tie) Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma 11.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Which one do I believe?

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine are from Hamilton too.

derp’s are just formatted better.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which ever one puts the Hawkeyes in the bigger lead

A tie goes to the runner also.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two tie, all tie?

Like skins…

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure. Carryovers

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

How about...

Sudden rock, paper ,scissors so no one gets physically harmed in the making of this blog

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably the entire Midwest I would presume

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Mar 18, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

KSU/KU/MU

Just be happy you don’t live in KS/MO. The only reason I’d like to see Missouri in the Big Ten is so I don’t have to hear Big 12 talk 24/7.

by Hawklyn on Mar 18, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i am in KC, so bball is all the rage,

by the way I polled every Mizzou fan @wrk, they all would leave the Big 12 in a second (&be rid of the texas schools & pain in the ass dan bebee, their dumbass commish).

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Mar 18, 2010 3:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's what I've heard here too

On the other hand, and surprisingly, most NE fans I’ve talked to have said that even though the TX domination sucks they think the Big Ten is so inferior that they’d rather deal with TX.

by Hawklyn on Mar 18, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm up north. not too far from Jarroyd Cole's hm town

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Mar 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I used to buy my weed from a dude on the plaza.

That guy had great shit.

At this point, Iowa should just declare themselves the world's 1st professional wrestling team and give the rest of the NCAA a chance.

by CyHawk on Mar 18, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nebraska is in the Big 12 north

Talk about inferior!

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you have a DTV converter

the local CBS will show an alternate gm.

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Mar 18, 2010 3:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We are here in waterloo

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Down goes Vandy! Down goes Vandy!

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

The Pearl and Stallings talk confuses the hell out of me

Why do people think that coaches who turned us down three years ago are going to be suddenly at all interested now when the Iowa job in unquestionably worse than it was back then?

by NorseHawk on Mar 18, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea.

SMA mentioned it earlier, and “Stormy” and HS discussed it on the podcast. I don’t think it’s likely to happen, but I don’t really pay attention to basketball so I’m just feeding the machine.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I NEVER said Pearl would take the Iowa job

I may have said there was talk he wasn’t happy at Tenn being third fiddle or he got some heat form the gun toters…but I don’t think predict he will take the Iowa Job. I just think he will be asked and should be asked. Three years is a very long time.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, not Pearl.

I was just making reference to your inquiry about Stallings earlier today. I wasn’t trying to hang you out there. I don’t think anyone honestly believes that Pearl will come to Iowa City.

by The Mexican't on Mar 18, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He shouldn't

really…he’s kind of in a perfect spot. If he wins he gets attention and if he loses he’s not the heart of happiness for the school.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pearl that is...

Stallings…is a whole ’nother ball game. He could leave…why not? Vandy is the end of the line no more than Iowa is.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I lived in Tennessee for awhile. It all revolves around Football. The only problem now is is that there football program is in some sort of disaray. Especially for them.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love that people bring this up like it's been any different here

There may have been a point where this was a basketball school, but this decade it’s not even close. Football is king, and I don’t see that changing any time soon. Anyone we hire is solidly in the shadow of Ferentz, and maybe Brands too (although I think if things get turned around that changes real quick. Wrestling is big but it can’t compete with a good basketball program)

by NorseHawk on Mar 18, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Brands will, at best, be a cult figure around here; a very popular one, but still just a cult figure.

The ceiling for a successful basketball coach is much, much higher.

And it would take either (maybe both) a significant amount of backsliding from the football program or an incredible improvement from the basketball program to make this anything but a football school for the forseeable future.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is it worse?

The practice facility is no longer just an empty promise.

CHA’s getting renovated so that it hopefully won’t be a fucking mausoleum.

There’s better talent in place and it’s all pretty young (save Cole).

The BTN is up and running and pumping millions of dollars into the athletic department.

These are all things Barta couldn’t say three years ago.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also...Big Ten expansion

might destroy to the Big East or Big 12…this is a vey good job and with Barta’s ass on the line I don’t hink he will be miserly on pay either. And, he will move heaven and earth to make it work.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I recant that about the talent.

The current talent is younger and has more potential, but it’s probably not actually better right now than what Lick inherited.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...

Barta has to sell it as a rebuilding job though because the new coach won’t really bring in a lot of his own peeps until two years from now. So we have to hire someone who likes and will work with these guys. The Lickliter “I only like my own guys” model cannot happen again.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 18, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the new coach doesn't have a detailed plan

for former Iowa Mr. Basketball Cougill then I don’t want him.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 18, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the renovations inside CHA might be bad

The conversion of the retractable seats into some sort of club/box dealy isn’t smart from a crowd noise perspective. That being said, there aren’t really much details about what’s going on inside the seating area so I could be wrong in my interpretation of the renovations.

The new locker room and practice facilities could be a major boost to recruiting.

by PackerHawk on Mar 18, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm a little vague on the reseating and whatnot.

Could it really make it worse or less quiet, though?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the team is worse than it was when Lick took over

And the fanbase is more apathetic than it has ever been. Trying to get people back into that building is a tough sell. It’s not a mausoleum because of the way it’s designed, it’s a mausoleum because it’s fucking empty. A renovation isn’t going to change that.

by NorseHawk on Mar 18, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also we just fired a coach after only 3 years

Before that we had a reputation for patience with coaches. That’s gone.

by NorseHawk on Mar 18, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

What good coach ever thinks he's going to fail?

And I would hope Barta could explain the circumstances that led to this 3-year termination. He’s also presumably looking for someone who won’t make the same mistakes — i.e., someone who will actually be able to connect with the players and not drive them off year after year. The W/L record and empty CHA made Lick’s seat hot, but the transfer problem got him the boot. I still believe he would’ve gotten a fourth year if not for the transfer issue.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talent-wise, it's possibly worse.

But this group has more potential than the group Lickliter inherited.

Drawing fans could be an issue, but I don’t see it seriously turning a coach away — the biggest thing that will bring fans back is winning, which is presumably what the coach is also most worried about.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right, but to win you need to get talent

And it’s not easy to sell kids on trying to play in the middle of nowhere (I love IC, but it’s true) in front of practically non-existent crowds. Which is what the new coach is going to have to do. Fan support is a big deal.

by NorseHawk on Mar 18, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true.

But it’s chicken/egg argument. Good recruiters get kids, even with empty stadiums.

I mean, K-State’s basketball tradition was in the fucking dumps until Huggins resurrected it.

I agree that it won’t be easy, though.

And I should say that I don’t think the situation now is BETTER. I think it’s mostly just a wash — a few things might be worse, but there are also certain positives that Barta can point to now that he couldn’t before.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Bob Stoops available?

I hear he’s interested, I heard from a friend of my cousin’s boyfriend’s sister’s roommate was standing next to Barta and overheard him saying Stoops wanted the job.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man you are connected

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

He needs his 15 minutes of fame

Better that way than some bullshit foul call I guess

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Intentional

2 shots and the ball

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then

he would have spent 5 minutes explaining the call to both benches while making sure the camera was on him at all times

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

And still been confused

And wrong

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wasn't quite as animated as Frank Drebin.

In the umpire scene in Naked Gun.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Well that's just because

No one does the moon walk anymore.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 18, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

John Wooden’s plane has just landed in Iowa City! Contract signing is imminent!

by Eubanks on Mar 18, 2010 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Does he have any clue where he is?

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I know this is the NCAA wrestling/bball thread

but is it wrong if I giggle in the direction of Northwestern?

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 18, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

As long as you're laughing at them and not with them.

Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian

by fliphawk4 on Mar 18, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

NOTE

EVENING SESSION CHATAPALOOZA

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

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