It's Not Plagiarism If You Link To It Is Already Scratching Names Off The List
It begins. The first names have begun trickling in as potential replacements for Todd Lickliter here at Iowa. During the Play-In Game--the results of which we do not care one bit about--Doug Gottlieb began speculating about potential names for Iowa: Dayton's Brian Gregory, Siena's Fran McCaffery, and UTEP's Tony Barbee.
Naturally, none are perfect candidates, which means nobody on the message boards is pleased about this. Gregory seems to be a particular sticking point for many, most of whom (in the above-linked thread, anyway) cite his inconsistent record at Dayton. Meanwhile, Gregory's widely thought to be Tom Izzo's coach-in-waiting for Michigan State. So just to recap: Brian Gregory is good enough for Michigan State, but not good enough for Iowa. Got it, Internet Hawk Fans. You guys just keep fighting the good fight against reality.
It's also worth reiterating: Gregory is Tom Izzo's old assistant and top recruiter. OH HEY, THAT REMINDS US. What was that Izzo had to say about Barta and the Iowa situation again?
"It's an amazing world I live in. I mean, I don't know Todd that well, to be very honest with you. But I know this: He's a quality guy. He doesn't cheat. He does it the right way. I feel sorry for some of these guys as I did Tommy Amaker, as I did Dan Monson, as I do Tom Crean a little bit. Guys that take over programs that have been decimated with crap.
"That right now would be where I would change my opinion of telling a friend to take a certain job."
Think he was talking to Gregory? We're guessing "yes definitely." Oh, also, Gregory's extended through '17-'18; best believe Barta has no interest in paying two mammoth buyouts at once. Brian Gregory? Probably not happening.
Meanwhile, Fran McCaffery is only as hot as how well his team does against Purdue in a few days; we expect his name to disappear when Siena's offense does the same.
As for Tony Barbee, he seems like the most intriguing option of the three. Good recruiter, up-tempo, exciting. Sort of a George Raveling 2.0! Perfect! This, of course, is dependent on Iowa finding a Lute Olsen 2.0 shortly thereafter; luckily, Quin Snyder is more than happy to fill this role. All he asks is a $750,000 yearly retainer until then. He's sure you won't mind such a modest investment in his loyalty.
But all that talk assumes one thing: that any of the three men are candidates for the Iowa job. Recall our rule from yesterday: if any coach's name comes up as a potential replacement, cross him off the list. Thus, we will confidently and unequivocally state this: Brian Gregory, Fran McCaffery, and Tony Barbee are all now officially not coming to Iowa. Now wait patiently for the next names to be floated for the Iowa job, so you can cross them off your list next.
The Sioux City Journal is officially beyond parody: You knew the Sewer Rag had to say something about Lickliter's firing, right? You know, since they spent the entire season thinking Lickliter was going to revoke Cougill's scholarship or something. So what do you suppose they had to say about a coach that gave a true freshman 12.5 minutes per game in Big Ten play, despite a glaring need for improvement? Hooo boy (emphasis, as always, ours):
Fair enough. Three years probably was cutting it a little short in terms of giving Todd Lickliter time to make a difference.
Fair enough. I'm probably not on Lickliter's bandwagon because I believe the way he handled a young man from Sioux City has been questionable if not downright shameful.
Oh no, that's not all. Not by a longshot:
I certainly haven't agreed with how he has handled 6-9, 260-pound Brennan Cougill, the former Bishop Heelan star, making it seem as if the all-time leading scorer and rebounder in Sioux City prep basketball history didn't deserve to be Mr. Basketball in Iowa last season.
The way Lickliter has handled Cougill has, instead, exposed a very nice and talented young man to the vicious horse manure that numbskulls like to spread on all those message boards.
In a state I've always been proud to call home, I'm embarrassed to think there are even a handful of Iowans who would be as thoughtless as the individuals who've dismissed Brennan as a serious Big Ten post player simply because his coach either can't or won't make him part of the equation.
Well, Lickliter won't have to work on that any longer. And, whether or not Cougill stays to play for another coach is something we'll just have to wait and see.
If the SCJ were at all interested in convincing people that these editorials aren't being written by Cougill's mother, this is a poor way of going about it. What kind of fragile porcelain doll is this person hell-bent on portraying Cougill as? And why? Pretending Cougill's, uh, sizable deficiencies and uh, sizable excesses don't exist doesn't help anybody. Cougill didn't see the floor more because he wasn't nearly as able to play the post as were Aaron Fuller or Jarryd Cole. Now, as for Andrew Brommer playing over Cougill... well, Lickliter got fired, didn't he?
Still, SCJ, we promise you this: Mr. Basketball is a big boy. A very big boy, as luck would have it. He doesn't need his hometown paper to be his second mother. Also, nobody says "numbskulls" anymore.
10-YARD DASHEZ:
Steve Batterson has some more names to float, which is to say more coaches who will now never coach at Iowa. Shame, really; I was convinced that Ben Howland would come. Right.
The Iowa head coaching job is online.Here's the link, via the NCAA. Not sure why this is a big deal; is there any other high-level job at the university where that department could get away with just plain not listing the opening? But MPS got their OMG on when DePaul did it, so... here you go.
Marc Morehouse breaks down next season's situation at defensive line. SPOILER ALERT: Everybody gets benched. Yes, everybody. Even all the backups.
And finally... Rick Fox demands that you piss your pants (lots of yelling and NSFW sweary words; headphones and earmuffs):
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Cougill's Mom
has got it goin’ on…..
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
Coo coo ca choo...
…Mrs. Cougar Cougill.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 17, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
What is being kind of skirted here is the question of why
Iowa basketball is so misunderstood. That Gottlieb and many other “experts” have no idea what is happening at Iowa falls on Lickliter. He is so low-key I am surprised that some people didn’t think Iowa dropped basketball altogether. Lickliter was not about to be invited to ANY of those ESPN coaches round tables to discuss the tourney. He was a PR introvert and that is yet another of the many concerns that got him fired.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
"He was a PR introvert and that is yet another of the many concerns that got him fired."
Is there any evidence to support that? Barta basically said he liked everything about Lickliter except for the losing.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
It may not be a reason he got fired.
But he is definitely a PR introvert.
Also, he wanted to shy away from playing all the other Iowa schools in the same year, and he wasn’t wild about the PTL. Those are just the “not seeking the limelight” moves he made WITHIN THE STATE.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 17, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I should have been clearer.
Lickliter is obviously not a showman, and I’m not disputing that.
Whether it was at all a factor in his dismissal doesn’t exactly seem evident from Barta’s statements.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 17, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He's also obviously not a snowman.
His arms have flesh and not bark, and he doesn’t wear a top hat, have chunks of coal for eyes, or melt when the temperature rises above freezing.
This may have been a factor in his dismissal as well, but Barta is too good a PR man to let that sort of thing out.
Brunettes not fighter jets
True, Barta did not list that explicitly
I am assuming it added to the cause. I found the attendance talk by Barta code for people don’t like or know about Iowa baskeball. Which I attribute to PR-type stuff TL failed to involve himself successfully. I think Barta is also to blame on this by the way. I don’t think player defection alone, although that is pretty damning, led Barta to let him go. Although, my sentence—like many of my sentences I am afriad—did sound like a statement of fact.
I think some tacit evidence of how Barta felt about Lickliter’s ability to lead the program from a PR perspective will be on display in who he hires and how he introduces this hire.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
and right on cue
http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office/2010/03/17/ex-players-want-personality-from-next-iowa-coach
or
LINK
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Your list of potential coaches is numbskulled horse manure.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Also, we're not dismissing Cougill as a legitimate post player because he wasn't "part of the equation"
We’re dismissing him, at least for now, because he’s overweight, lacks strength, has short arms, runs like a tyrannosaurus rex, and seems content to take three-point shots at every possible moment. Most of that can be fixed over time. And he has time, because HE’S A FRESHMAN.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
You give that list, Ghost of Steve McQueen...
and the only thing he has going for him is that he’s a freshman.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 17, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Also,
Running like a tyrannosaurus rex goes perfectly with chewing on his mouthpiece like a tyrannosaurus rex. Why the Big Ten Network cameramen felt like they needed to get a close up of that every time, I do not know.
Is Cougill also a Dinosaur Nascar driver?
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Mar 17, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
His arms
weren’t as short as Herb Grigsby though. Oh and if you use a mouthpiece, you’re automatically good at basketball. So at least he’s looking the part and that’s really all we can ask for since we’re “irrelevant”
So what you're saying is
Even though Cougill is a former Bishop Heelan star, the all-time leading scorer and rebounder in Sioux City prep basketball history and Mr. Basketball in Iowa last season, you would rather take a “what can he do for us at this point in time” approach.
Well, with attitudes like that no WONDER this program is in the toilet.
Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog
Maybe Cougill needs the TMS Facebook avatar
To help him get with the program and such. Hey, it worked for DJK.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 17, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually though he looked pretty decent in the post earlier in the season
Seemed like he had a nice sense of positioning down low to me, and he had some moments in the non-conference season. But then for whatever reason we decided to turn him into Fat Bawinkle in conference play.
Has anyone asked Cougill for a comment on the stories?
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 17, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
What ever happened to "Cougillsaurus Rex"?
Probably my favorite nickname from the game threads this year. Sadly, Dessert Fox really took off, so it might be too late . . . .
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 17, 2010 9:54 AM CDT reply actions
Sorry, World War II references always win.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 17, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
So, should we have been referring to Cougill and John Lickliter
as Fat Man and Little Boy? Or does the Pacific Theater not count?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
The PT counts if you fought there...
…otherwise it’s just G.I.s in Hawaiian shirts with Nurses all around them (at least that’s what I learned from Michael Bay’s historically accurate epic “Pearl Harbor” starring Steroid Affleck).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 17, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
…I would have loved to see Steroid Affleck in that role much more than the Regular Fat-Headed Affleck.
“Mmrrrraaachhhhereeerrrrrr!!!! I lost my girl… mmrrrruuufffffferrerrrrrrrrrr…. to Josh… rrrrrrrraaaaaarrrrrr… fucking Hartnet!!! BBBbbthththththththtrrrrrrrrrraaaaaarrrrrraahhhh… (/sobs uncontrolably).” End scene.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 17, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Queue Trey Parker . . . .
Why does Michael Bay
get to keep on making movies?
I guess Pearl Harbor sucked . . . .
just a little bit more than I miss yooooouuuuuuuu
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Mar 17, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a small problem with using those as nicknames for those two
Its not like we blew anyone with any talent off of the court this year. :-p
Yes, I agree the SC paper is a tool… and we’re having fun here… but it does seem kind of wrong to bang on either kid given how bad the season went, IMHO.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 17, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
It kind of goes hand in hand with the "Freshman" thing
If you want to give crap to Bawinkel or one of the few upperclassmen and team “leaders”, I don’t mind that so much. Also, I know that Lil’John’s public lambasting comes in part with being marginal for the team and the coach’s son. I’m still not crazy about it but I understand it. It just seems like kicking someone when they’re down. Then I see the “pope” and start laughing again. I’m not proud of it, but that list is looooong.
With Cougill, the irony is that it seems so much of our issue here arises not because of anything Cougill did, but because of the utterliy petulant sniffings of his home town newspaper. IT’S the fuel for the fire, unless there’s some local firestorm of other origin I’m unaware of. Excessive paternalism always seems to do this, and if the wisenhammers (sorry, knuckleheads was taken) at the SCJ would relalize that THEY are part of the problem, then THEY could calm down and maybe everybody else would follow suit.
"Mongo just pawn in game of life" --Mongo (Inspiration by HawkOnRails' Waco Kid)
The thing about Cougill's mom
Is he admitted on film that she frequents message boards.
Joking or not, those “editorials” may very well have been written by her. Interesting.
by storminspank on Mar 17, 2010 12:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Please let this be true.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 17, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
In the comment section ot the SCJ article
a user named Sioux City Mom posted in response to someone commenting on the piece… I’m beginning to really think it’s her.
"I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o’er." - Adrian Clayborn
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Mar 17, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I was in Sioux City over the weekend
and saw that story in print (and figured I would see it here soon enough). The byline was Terry Hersom.
by Brock Sampson on Mar 17, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Which is funny.
I would have bet anything that Allspach was been the crankpants columnist wailing about hobgoblins and their interwebs hate speech and defending the honor of Cougill.
Maybe the Journal’s found some way to combine all of their sportswriters into one old-fashioned, hackneyed, cranky super douche. Like VOLTRON, only with fat, balding assholes instead of bitchin’ robot lions.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I can see why they hate the Internet
if their main exposure to it is the SCJ discussion forums. Anybody would. They waste half a page every day reprinting them in the paper and the utter ignorance on display is aneurysm-inducing.
by Brock Sampson on Mar 17, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
What do y'all think about????
Dana Altman. I really like Dana Altman.
Captain 180?
"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid
Yep. If Barta could get him to agree....
and not change his mind the next day.

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