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The Press Conference Happened. So... Now What?

Gary Barta's press conference came and went, and the Todd Lickliter Era is no more. We already knew it was no more, but there's some merit to the formalities all the same.

That's because Barta's presser was, for the most part, informative and helpful. This isn't going to be one giant slob job on the man, but it's nice to see that Iowa at least has a sane, forthright person at the helm of the athletic department.

Now, there are a couple exceptions to that, so let's get them out of the way. First of all, Barta said that the reason he waited until today to fire Lickliter is that he hadn't completely made up his mind about the firing until this morning. That's somewhat dubious, but Barta wiggled his way into saying that he didn't finalize the decision until today. Whatever. If that's the biggest quibble one can have about how forthright an AD is at a press conference, life is pretty easy.

And that really is the biggest quibble; the only other issue one might have is that Barta didn't countenance the rumors that player retention was at stake in the firing. He acknowledged the presence of said rumors, told reporters he looked into them, and basically left it there. That, while not being as transparent as the rest of Barta's speech, was probably wise all the same; the last thing you want to do is draw the media into a guessing game about where different players' loyalties lie. That cannot end well, and Barta knows that.

And that's basically it for complaints: just two, and both were minor and well-intentioned. One could make that case that both were protective in nature, which is probably wise given what a fractious situation this has become.

Star-divide

And even then, Barta did make one point that was double-speaky enough that he can avoid putting any pressure on the players, but still sort of answered the second question. He said that he considered the current and future players' commitment to the team, and said that it was an important factor in whether to keep Lickliter aboard (for what it's worth, Tom Izzo thinks this idea is ridiculous and actually brings up terrorism to prove his point). Barta didn't take that last step and say the commitment wasn't there, but... Lickliter got fired, right?

Aside from that, there's probably no reason not to take Barta at his word on everything else. He said that he had tremendous respect for Lickliter as a coach, and we believe that. Hell, how many MVC programs had already contacted Lickliter's agent before the firing even took place? We're guessing more than one.

And if that's Lickliter's comfort level, so be it. Word was that he never got involved in the AAU circuits. Not that he never recruited players on AAU teams, mind you, just that he didn't use those avenues for recruiting. A coach may get away with that at a mid-major. Not at a Big Ten school.

Back to the presser, Barta also plainly explained that attendance was, well, terrible, and that it was negatively affecting the financial situation--even as Iowa spends the 4th most in the Big Ten on its basketball program. He didn't pin it all on Lickliter, he didn't shirk any blame himself, he didn't blow smoke up anybody's asses about quick fixes; he laid the facts out and put together a pretty convincing case of why Lickliter had to go. There were no exaggerations, histrionics, third-person blubbering, anything like that. The closest he ever came to going off script was disagreeing with (what he called) "loaded" questions from reporters, and even then, he handled it ably and professionally.

Barta was asked about a short list, and said he'd contacted nobody (duh) and hadn't officially ruled any candidates out (double duh), but that as part of his job he had been monitoring coaches across the nation for a while now (triple smoking Jesus duh). And since nobody asked him about Quin Snyder, we can't rule Mr. Tousled Tassels out just yet!

With all that, Barta recused himself from further comment until a new coach is hired; that's pretty standard and nobody should have expected anything different. It would be patently unfair to a sitting coach if Barta were to bring him up in the press before a deal is signed, after all. So in the meantime, while the search is on, prepare to hear nothing from Iowa officials, and buckets of rumors which probably won't serve any purpose other than smokescreens. Someone's name comes up? Cross him off the list, because he's not getting offered.

The people we will be hearing from on the record, though, are the players and recruits--and those closest to him. That'll be interesting. They're probably being coached as we speak to say nothing controversial to the press (hell, that's what I'd tell them), but 19-year-olds usually aren't consummate professionals yet. And God help us if multiple players end up transferring or demanding releases from their LOIs ("LsOI," really) out of anger over the whole situation. That won't play well.

But all that will play itself out over the coming days and weeks; as such, it isn't worth speculating over. So we'll just let this situation sink in some more, sit on our hands instead of passing along bogus rumors, and wait for the answer to the big question: Now what?

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Best press conference moment wasn't even from Barta

It was Haddy announcing the firing before Barta had even taken the podium.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 16, 2010 7:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Not a wise move on his part

I wouldn’t steal Bloodpunch’s thunder. Not smart at all.

by PackerHawk on Mar 16, 2010 7:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

First I cringed, then I laughed!

_ They took the bar! The whole fucking bar!-John Blutosky Animal House)

by John Hartlieb is stiil a stud! on Mar 16, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are we lucky to have Barta or is that standard AD behavior?

I think it’s the former. Just look two hours west of Iowa City to see how bad ADs can be (Pollard). I like Barta, I just hope we don’t lose him to some other university like Bowlsby.

by Duez I say on Mar 16, 2010 7:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't buy it.

Firing Lickliter last year would not have saved us from the fiasco this year. Hell, most were expecting the year to be even worst than it was.

by The Mexican't on Mar 16, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

…so now instead of already being a year into the rebuild we are another year away. As I stated yesterday I’m not really upset about the situation (mostly I’m just being a devil’s advocate here), but no one is asking the tough question… if we did better than expected this year and fired the coach anyway, then what the fuck was Barta waiting for?

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 16, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sounded to me like the firing came out of fear of transfers.

I think the rumors may have held some water, and Barta had no choice.

by The Mexican't on Mar 16, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

And like I said yesterday (as an advocate of the devil)...

…if that’s true, then college kids are making Barta’s choices for him, and he’s not doing his job.

Mostly I just don’t like the guy or the way this (or the last coaching change) was handled. My two cents, and I’ll drop it now (this isn’t really an argument I have the energy to sustain- – I just thought I’d voice opposition since everyone seems happy with the way everything went down)- – mostly I’m pissed that we had to suffer through this season for nothing.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 16, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't watch more than 10 minutes of Iowa basketball this year

so I’m not fully aware of how bad the team was. I also didn’t expect Lick to be fired. However, I don’t get the feeling that Hawkeye basketball fans “suffered through this season for nothing.” Those that were aware of the growing pains wanted to give Lickliter a shot and were aware that this year’s team would be terrible, those that were opposed to Lick were saying that if he didn’t win this year he had to go.

by The Mexican't on Mar 16, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

intramurals

I didn’t either but what I saw looked like an intramural team!!

by techhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm.
…if that’s true, then college kids are making Barta’s choices for him, and he’s not doing his job.

I would agree with that more often than not, but the transfer situation here had reached frankly ludicrous levels. No program can succeed with that much turnover, particularly among key players. Given the transfers of the past three off-seasons and the rumblings that were in the air this year, I can see why Barta would want to take the temperature of the situation. It’s not something I’d advocate as a general practice (and I don’t think Barta would, either; he seems pretty hands off unless pushed), but when things get as bad as they’ve been, sometimes you need to change that practice.

mostly I’m pissed that we had to suffer through this season for nothing.

Well, sure, hindsight is always 20/20. But there were some fairly good reasons to give Lick a shot this year. He finally had a team comprised entirely of his own guys, so it wasn’t entirely unreasonable to think that the transfer problem would abate. The team was theoretically going to be led by guys who’d been exposed to the system for a few years (Gatens, Tucker, Cole, Bawinkel — hey, he was a captain…). From a realistic standpoint, I’m not sure how many more wins and losses could be expected (though I don’t think many expected us to lose non-conf games to the likes of Duquesne and UTSA), but I think there was reason to believe that there would be some progress seen in the play of the team, even if it wasn’t totally reflected in wins and losses. And while I’m loathe to cite negative perception as a reason to not make a move, the blowback Iowa would have gotten from canning him after two years would have been pretty bad unless Barta could provide evidence that Todd was carving up co-eds during the off-season.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 16, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're probably right...

…and I understand most of your points. I think some of SMA’s curmudgeon-ness about Iowa basketball transfered to me for a second. I keeeed.

Maybe I just don’t like when politics are elevated over performance (not that the performance has been great), but that happens in college basketball (I’ve just been lucky as a Hawk fan to have been shielded from it for so long- – until recent years- – and now I’ve had my fill). I don’t like the bureaucracy that goes with the territory, and I’ll be happy when this program just gets back to basketball. Whatever, I’m over it.
I love this school, and I hate seeing all of this, so my hope is that Barta does a great job and gets us a coach that will win and stay for a long time.

A guy can hope.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 16, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Couldn't agree more!

You will never move forward by looking back....

by By Santo's Grace on Mar 16, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said, Ross

I can’t say I am upset over this decision, but, as I said earlier on this thread, I still think this was a year early. I guess it’s a matter of how many players they could save this year vs. how many they would lose by firing Lick. We will see.

I definitely saw progress this year…earlier in the season. Around the mid-point of the Big Ten season, I thought the team was playing pretty well, hanging with teams they had no business hanging with, and looked like it was coming together. Then the last 2 weeks of the season happened. They looked like a team that had given up on a coach, much like they did at the end of last year when the exodus followed. That is a scary pattern (even though I believe you need more than 2 data points to prove a pattern, that is not something to mess with, having to rebuild every year).

As for whether or not Barta let the players make his decision, I think it goes deeper than that. I think Barta had seen some disturbing trends (low attendance, the program bleeding money, and the number of disgruntled players) and decided something needed to be done to stop the bleeding. I don’t necessarily agree with this, but I understand why he did it (and I can’t say it was surprising).

I just hope that Iowa has learned it’s lesson about hiring hot-shot mid-major coaches. Not that they are bad coaches or can never have success, but that they don’t necessarily fit Iowa well. I would like to see them get a top assistant that has put in his time on the recruiting trail, and one that has seen how a big time program is run.

I think the nucleus is there to be decent (not good, decent) and maybe Barta thought this was his only shot at salvaging the next couple years for the program.

by shada's revenge on Mar 16, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had the same thought re: mid-major coaches.

But I think that’s reactionary. You can’t close off an entire avenue of coaching possibilities just because we’ve had some bad luck the last two go-rounds. I think what you have to do is look at why those guys failed and see if there some common problems — and find a guy who DOESN’T have those problems (as best you can determine).

Personality aside, I thought Alford’s biggest problems were recruiting (he had a few good classes pre-Craig Neal, but he also had way too many duds) and just a lot of learning on the job. He was a very young coach and there were just a lot of situations he hadn’t really experienced yet; unfortunately, we paid the price for a lot of that learning. I think Lick also suffered from so-so recruiting and too much learning on the job. He’d never coached outside of Indiana or outside of a smaller league until taking this job, which was a HUGE adjustment.

So if we do go down the hot mid-major coach route again, I’d say that we need to focus on someone who (a) has a STRONG recruiting reputation and (b) who’s either personally familiar with the experience of coaching in the big leagues or who was an assistant in the big leagues, or who is at the very least willing to hire assistants who are experienced in the big leagues. I’m not sure how much love we’re going to get from coaches who already have a lot of real experience in the big leagues (Iowa would probably be at best a lateral move for those guys), but I’m hopeful it will be someone who understands what coaching in a big league is like, even if they don’t have a lot of personal experience doing it yet. It would be nice to cut down the massive learning curve the last two coaches have labored under.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 16, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

IMO

“Mid-major coach” is about as relevant as “coach with brown hair.” A good coach is a good coach.

Coaching isn’t just practice time and game time, it’s all the hard work outside of the court. Dealing with media and boosters. Hitting the recruiting trail. Having a short term plan to achieve and a long term plan to maintain success.

Most importantly, it’s teaching young men not only about a sport, but about adulthood and responsibility, hard work and perseverance. A college sports team isn’t a bunch of young men playing a game, it’s a family away from home that has to be cultivated and cared for. And when you are playing for a teammate or coach who is like your brother, you’ll fight and bleed for him. If that love isn’t there, then you’ll only play a game.

I think Lickliter is a good basketball teacher, but I’m not entirely convinced he was a good coach at Iowa.

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Mar 16, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly rockyh.
And when you are playing for a teammate or coach who is like your brother, you’ll fight and bleed for him. If that love isn’t there, then you’ll only play a game.

A coach should be, to an extent, a father figure. You could see during any game that Lute and Dr. Tom were those types of coaches, [name redacted] and Lickliter were not.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 16, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially ironic for Lickliter...

since he was literally a father figure to one of the people on the team…

by BornaHawk on Mar 16, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

My thought - it's about recruiting

I don’t care if we get another mid-major coach. But what I’d like to see is “look how well he was able to recruit at a mid-major” as opposed to “well, hopefully he’ll be able to recruit better at a Big 10 school”.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 16, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...

You can’t rule out mid-major coaches, as there are many who go on to bigger and better things. Yet, you do need a guy that can (or at least QUICKLY grow into) recruiting and keeping the boosters happy at the Big Ten level.

I have no idea if he is that guy, but somebody I was impressed with the other day was Chris Mooney of Richmond (I saw a TV interview on Jim Rome). He is young (37), sharp (former Princeton player), and I will now research his on-court success and recruiting ability.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 16, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theoretically speaking...

…we ARE bigger better things, but I think in practice we fell behind mid-majors about 6 years ago.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 16, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

another look

I’m not down on mid major coaches and if there’s a good one great! I would rather go the route of a top level assistant this time around. Someone from a big time program who’s hungry and enthusiastic and yes can recruit. I could see a Frank Martin kind of guy working out well.

by techhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still believe part of the reason he was waiting

is that it’s building for the next coach. If he sends the message that, regardless of circumstance, we’re willing to throw a coach under the bus after only 2 seasons, the pool of interested coaches is going to be much smaller. As it is, 3 years isn’t a long time, and I believe it was only the threat of more transfers that forced his hand.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I think the money thing was a problem, but Barta would sucked it up and dealt with it if he thought the core of this year’s team was returning and being augmented by the incoming recruits. Once that was thrown into doubt, though, there really weren’t enough reasons left to stick with Lickliter.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 16, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't believe that at all

Even now, I think this was done one year too early. That said, I think Barta handled it very, and I was very impressed with the press conference.

by shada's revenge on Mar 16, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why'd you have to insult Pollard so bluntly?

Now he’s more inconsolable than ever!

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Mar 16, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was veery impressed by Barta

he was a totally different guy than the one three years ago looking for a new head coach. He clearly has learned lessons and grown in the job. Unlike three years ago, we did not hear a lot about process, hiring process. That made me very happy. You’re the AD, this is why you got this job, for these moments—go hire someone and just do whatever it takes to get the right person as you see it and don’t worry about the optics. Three years ago Barta was (IMO) very concerned about the appearance of the search—probably because he lacked any track record at Iowa and may not have felt his credibility alone was sufficient. That was all absent yesterday. He was decisive and very comfortable with his decision.

I really expect a better hire this time around. While Doc and Hlog yesterday said Iowa is in a far worse situation in terms of national reputation than they were threee years ago, I think Lickliter undid a lot of damage (although he did some as well) and life will be better for this coach than it might have been for Lickliter, and with a new practice facility and other resources put in place since his hire, thing should even out.

This is a very nice job. Iowa is the kind of program that will be invited to the big dance with an 18 win season. There are not a lot of programs that can offer that up. Iowa is the kind of program that can feel big time to a recruit. The campus is impressive. The arena is no joke. The Big Ten is moving toward utter dominance in college athletics. Iowa can certainly go to final fours. That is the kind of program possible here. Anyone who is very serious about advancing their career will dive head first at this opportunity…oh, and we pay damn well too.

When Barta said Iowa is the fourth biggest spender on basketball in the Big Ten, he was beginning the sales pitch. I, for one, buy it.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 16, 2010 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

or was Iowa the third biggest spender?

forgot…

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 16, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Without a doubt

There was plenty of sales pitch in that PC. The talk about spending (as you said), and the repeated references to the practice facility.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 16, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

When you talked how great our campus was

Don’t forget about Pancheros. That’s legitimate selling point. Remember when nameredacted left, we were looking at Majerus. The President of Pancheros, Rodney Anderson, publicly said he would feed Majerus for free if he became the coach at Iowa.

Thank Pancheros, thank you.

by Duez I say on Mar 16, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Barta is all over that. Trust me.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 16, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sign me up!

I’ll coach for free Panchero’s! Sure, I don’t know squat about basketball and can’t hit the broad side of the backboard from the free throw line, but I’ll make it work!

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Mar 16, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Tony Barbee

Is anyone worried about him? I get that there may be some nervousness on account of his close ties with Calipari. That being said, this is a young guy that can flat out recruit. And isn’t that the name of the game in basketball? Look at the talent he’s brought to UTEP. UTEP! Word is though that Auburn really likes him too.

by stewartom on Mar 16, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Auburn would be a perfect fit for a Calipari assistant.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 16, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was waiting for the first national press on this

and the WWL was not bad at all. No real emphasis on the “only” 3 years, lots of emphasis on program sliding under Lick, lots of transfers, first 20-loss season for Iowa. Now, i haven’t looked this morning and I suppose Bilas, Phelps, etc, could come out with an Izzo-like bashing, but they are probably too busy with the tournaments. The one good thing, the only, is that being in a down situation it doesn’t seem like this made that big a splash outside of Iowa or parts of the conference. Of course, now watch it all come today and prove me wrong.

by Mr. Grizz on Mar 16, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with almost everything you say

Except the 18 wins part. We’re a 20 win and in program (or we used to be). I don’t expect name recognition to get us in unless the Big10 has a down year and we’re top 4 in the league with 20 wins..

I like turtles.

by lilzaphod on Mar 16, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...

the days of 20 wins and in are over. Especially if your schedule is weak. Eventually (maybe not in year one of the new coach, but shortly thereafter) we will have to start having strong schedules. This year’s schedule was pretty crappy. One RPI rating I saw had our SOS as 57, but our RPI was 210. We played Texas, Wichita State, and UNI, and a bunch of pretty bad teams in the non-conference. That will have to change within a year or two.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 16, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really, Izzo?
Let’s call Saddam in here and ask him if the Al-Qaeda network is good or bad.

Let’s stick to the roundball talk there, coach.

On the plus side, he did introduce me to the word “scandalistically,” which is kind of awesome.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 16, 2010 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Indeed. Should have been:
Let’s call Gavrilo Princip in here and ask him if the Black Hand is good or bad.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 16, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

God

Izzo’s response was absolutely ridiculous. But, if I was him, I would love to have Lickliter around for the next 20 years. It would guarantee some easy wins for his team.

by salparadise23 on Mar 16, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Izzo...

 “And I think for what he had and the injuries he went through and the suspensions with the alcohol problem and all the things they had, I thought he did a hell of a job to be honest with you.”

What injuries? The only significant one I can even remember is Cy Tate. The worst 3 years in Iowa basketball history, Izzo. Hell of a job…

I like how he credits Lick for not cheating. God I hate the college game right now.

by burglinturds on Mar 16, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also
It’s an amazing world I live in. I mean, I don’t know Todd that well, to be very honest with you. But I know this: He’s a quality guy. He doesn’t cheat. He does it the right way. I feel sorry for some of these guys as I did Tommy Amaker, as I did Dan Monson, as I do Tom Crean a little bit. Guys that take over programs that have been decimated with crap.

Fuck you Izzo.

by burglinturds on Mar 16, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm too lazy to look up the records.

But I’d love to know what Izzo’s record is/was against those coaches. I gotta think it was .800 or better.

No wonder he thinks they got fucking jobbed. I’d be mad at losing that many easy wins, too.

Kirk should run full page ads in support of Brewster in the Star Trib this fall.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 16, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Izzo...

probably also appreciates that Lick never really tried to take any recruits he cared about.

Izzo: “Nice to talk to you on the phone, Todd. What? You want Marble’s kid? Go ahead. Knock yourself out. [hangs up phone]. Bwaahahahahahahahahah!!!”

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 16, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really

Who the f#ck cares what Tom Izzo thinks? He’s a coach defending another coach who got paid a cumulative $7.5 million (including buyout) to produce the worst three years of basketball in Iowa history. You get paid big bucks, you better win…quickly. Not rebuild every year after half your team transfers because you fail to communicate with them like a regular human being. That’s the deal.

by cruzhawk on Mar 16, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well Tom Izzo is a good basketball coach. He can defend Lick and think what happened to him is crap. However, the fact is Iowa lost more games each of his 3 years, attendance was fucking terrible, and kids were transferring out of his program. Izzo can bemoan the thin ice coaches skate on – but talk is cheap when you were in the nat’l title game last fucking year and the Iowa AD is trying to deal with this shit. One year might be an aberration, but this was going nowhere fast. It’d be pretty standup, although fantasy to expect, if someone with his resume acknowledged that, too.

by txhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

next coach should be able to......

we need a coach that can inject some excitement into this program. someone young and enthusiastic who might bring a little up tempo game back to town. we need someone who can SELL this program to recruits/parents, boosters and fans/alums. I would like to see someone who understands and loves big ten BB – maybe a top assistant currently in the big ten. lastly, we need someone who would LOVE to live and work in Iowa City, fish bowl and all…..an extrovert who would dig not only the pressure of that but would thrive in the community as well. we need the BB equivalent of Hayden Fry quite frankly.

by techhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

BB equivalent of Hayden Fry

Bruce Pearl immediately comes to mind. It would take something in the realm of 3 mil a year to get him. Is Iowa BB really willing to step to that level?

by benvious on Mar 16, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Pearl

ain’t coming.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Mar 16, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Pearl....

He wasn’t interested last time and I don’t think even 3mil will pry him from Tenn. He could have a real contender there season very soon. Heck they beat KU this year. He also might not have the “values” that Iowa would want. the whole “players with guns” incident would not sit well at all in conservative Iowa. Neither would Billy Clyde Gillespie….although he could recruit the HECK out of Texas!!

by techhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

correct me if I'm wrong...

But that player with a gun you are referring to is none other than Tyler Smith, former Hawkeye and all…lol.

You will never move forward by looking back....

by By Santo's Grace on Mar 16, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

correct you are...

this happened AFTER he left Iowa. Bruce Pearl should have known the kid had the potential to be damaged goods. the point I was trying to make is that Iowa can’t afford to have that sort of thing happening. been there done that.

by techhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is this a joke?

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 16, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only way we get Pearl:

Is if we make the financial thing matter. That probably means giving him closer to $4 million per year.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/sec/2009-07-08-pearl-extension_N.htm

Pearl made 2.4 mil in 2009, and 2.1 this year, with at least a 100k raise coming each year from here on out.

Would you leave what you have built at Tennessee to come to Iowa right now for an extra 500K or 1 mil per year? I don’t think I would, considering you might get fired in 3 or 4 years.

The only way we get Pearl is if he can’t trust the UT athletic department in the wake of Phil Fulmer’s treatment, or if Pearl is angry/wary that he now has to deal with Calipari slime (as well as Vandy and South Carolina both improving) in his division of his conference.

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-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 16, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tennessee is much more conservative than Iowa. Most people do not care as long as you win.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 16, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps....

Politically yes but culturally? I’m not so sure. If you are winning then yes you might be able to get a way with it for a while. the minute you start losing…..don’t let the door hit you in the behind on the way out.

by techhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Young, enthusiastic, prefers an up-tempo game, coaching experience in the Midwest?

Vinny del Negro!

No, I’m not a Bulls fan just trying to get rid of him ASAP. No sirree. Would never do that to you guys.

by Yinka Double Dare on Mar 16, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The people we will be hearing from on the record, though, are the players and recruits—and those closest to him.

Disagree. I’m going to assume there was some kind of players meeting, or will be, about the situation and they will be told to keep their mouths shut. No twitter, no facebook, no talking to reporters. What the program doesn’t need right now is a bunch of 19 year olds venting their joys or frustrations. Let everything calm down.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

hmmmmm

This is interesting

Did something happen that I don’t know about? BTW, a driver’s liscense is required.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Mar 16, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

?

It’s a university job. They have to post it online.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 16, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic

Like I didn’t know that Lick had been fired and spotted the ad online.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Mar 16, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish someone would actually invent that

Not that I need it, but I just think it would be funny if you had to use another font for sarcasm.

by shada's revenge on Mar 16, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

they already have

www.sarcmark.com

if your readers need a special punctuation mark to denote sarcasm, then you need new readers.

thank you Amelie Gillette

by KentuckyThunderPussy on Mar 16, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the parts of the ad that say:

…Recruiting qualified AND diverse student-athletes. (Code for: recruit some guys who would not go to Butler.)

…Establishing and maintaining effective relationships with the University community and its various constituents. (Code for: Pucker up to Mr. Gatens and that relative of Cougill’s who writes for the SCJ.)

…Performing other duties as assigned. (Code for: If you don’t go .500, prepare to wash Barta’s car and mow the lawn at the Ferentz’s).

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 16, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

My thoughs, for what they're worth...

1) I was willing at first to give Lick one more year, with a winning record as the goal. The more I looked at the roster and the league, the less I saw the 6 or 7 extra wins needed to get to .500-plus.

2) So I think Barta made the right call. This is a situation that calls for a new coach.

3) But who? A lot of basketball guys want to go to basketball schools — that is to say schools with virtually non-existent football programs. Billy Donovan and Bo Ryan are among the exceptions. Can we get a guy comfortable at a football school? Can we get a guy who isn’t put off by all the wrestling banners in the Carver-Hawkeye rafters?

4) I think Iowa’s main competitive advantage is money. We compete because we’re good at generating cash. Also, we make the most of the cash we generate. Iowa men’s basketball needs to be a money making operation. I think the empty seats at CHA spoke loudly.

5) Scandalistically? Really? Douche.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Mar 16, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

With over $1,000,000 a year

yeah, we can get a good coach.

There just aren’t that many schools where B-Ball is king and they have a great program. Plus, when will the next one be hiring? We could very well end up with somebody trying to use us as a stepping stone but so what. If he’s in town 4 or 5 years, gets the program turned around, wins the BXI and maybe makes the sweet 16, we call that one a win.

Facts sometimes have a strange and bizarre power that makes their inherent truth seem unbelievable. - Werner Herzog

by Flakbait on Mar 16, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Being that we're in the Big Ten (straight cash homey)

Hopefully we can find a guy who isn’t using us as a stepping stone. Bill Self aside, that is…

"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."

by Twin Cities Hawk on Mar 16, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question

Is Tucker still taking classes and could he potentially come back to the team? I am sure it is a long shot but I was wondering if a new coach could give him an opportunity to return so he would not have to sit out a year.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 16, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Who is Bo Ryan's top assistant?

(Or should that be whom?) Whomever it is, HIRE THAT MAN.

Seriously, if we could duplicate Bo Ryan’s success at Wisconsin (and Iowa=Wisconsin as far as in-state talent and geography are concerned), we are in good hands.

I really wish this were possible. I miss wanting to watch Iowa Basketball.

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Mar 16, 2010 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

no up tempo

I really think Iowa fans want more of an up tempo type game than you get at UW.

by techhawkeye on Mar 16, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wisconsin associate head coach...

is Greg Gard. Roughly 40 years old.

http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/gard_greg00.html

http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=227494

Nothing there really impresses me. Also, a different Wisconsin assistant (Gary Close) has ties to Tom Davis and Iowa.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 16, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

They want a winner.

Period.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 17, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

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