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Todd Lickliter Fired as Iowa Basketball Coach

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Might I suggest Tim Lickliter as a replacement?

 

The meeting is over.  So too, apparently, is the Todd Lickliter era at Iowa.

After a 9:00 meeting with athletic director Gary Barta that lasted all of 8 minutes ("It took Donald Trump longer to fire someone on last night's Celebrity Apprentice" said Press-Citizen columnist and renowned blues singer Pat Harty on KCJJ), Todd Lickliter briefly returned to his office and left Carver Hawkeye Arena.  Scott Dochterman, reporting for all of us who have day jobs, says it's done.  Todd Lickliter has been terminated.

A press conference has been scheduled for 2:30 where we hope to have the rumors of the last week answered and the coaching search updated.  We'll be liveblogging it here.

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HS - I can't believe you brought up Tim...

I was going to name drop him in the podcast.

DAMN YOU!!!

by storminspank on Mar 15, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Holy shit

Well…I guess bloodpunch did it his way

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice to see a fellow BCBer!

"For the charming if somewhat curius branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightly struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"

by tommy veryzer on Mar 15, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

The rumors

Rumor nearly-universally held but unconfirmed was a number of players notified Barta and/or Mims of their intent to transfer on Tuesday night. Barta contacted Lick’s agent about a way of saving face through “resignation” over “health reasons.” Barta thought he had an agreement, and then Lick pulled out the rug with his “I’m healthy…” line after the game. Hence the quick termination.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

What?
a number of players notified Barta and/or Mims of their intent to transfer on Tuesday night…

Seriously? Is this guy a serial killer in the locker room? This is the kind of reputation that will be hard to resurface with.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Short of Barta acknowledging it I don’t know if this will ever be “confirmed”, but I’ve heard this from multiple (read: Non-internet) sources.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 15, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

most (if not all) of the team was behind Lick, and some (Payne) saying they may transfer if Lick is gone?

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The rumors have all been that Gatens and Fuller were among those threatening to leave, which would have been a disaster (if it were true, which, who knows)

by NorseHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Point is

There seemed to be a lot of talk about the team, pretty much the whole team, standing by him.
For “a number”, meaning more than 1 and probably more than 2, of players to say they’re ready to bolt, well, thinks in that locker room must have been toxic

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the dividing line is...

Cully Payne and Eric May…who feel totally like Lickliter recruits and everyone else. May is an Iowa guy and he caught on with the fans. I would be surprised to see him go. He will thrive in a more uptempo system.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to breakaway dunks, myself

Where the person doing the dunking is wearing an Iowa uniform.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

You don't like breakaway

fouls?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this guy a serial killer in the locker room?

When TL talks about the “Butler Way”, maybe he means it as in “the butler did it.”

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad

This is something that probably had to happen, but it is not a good deal for any party. Lick seems to be a good guy who was just in over his head, and the Hawks are looking like ND football right about now.

"For the charming if somewhat curius branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightly struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"

by tommy veryzer on Mar 15, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Guh. Well at least that part of it is finally fucking over.

A shitty deal all the way around. It’d be a lot easier if he’d been caught fucking a player or selling meth in the IMU or something. As it is, he’s a good guy and I wish him the best.


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by Bucketochicken on Mar 15, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Can you guys posthumously add him to Marchifornication?

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

JoePa had better watch out.

TL may be out for blood. I imagine he’ll stop at nothing for a shot at the postseason…

by The Mexican't on Mar 15, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh.

It’s not MISERYIFORNICATION. Todd Lickliter is Eeyore; he always brings a party down.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 15, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

If player defections were really about to happen, then this is absolutely necessary. Still sorry about it though. He’s a good guy, and I always want to stand w/our coaches. We’ve got to hit a home run on this next one. I don’t care about names or pedigree; I care that he’s got fire in his belly, keeps the good players, and has the ability to go get more.

by stewartom on Mar 15, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

With all due respect

why do people find Lickliter to be a “good guy”? I’m just asking. I don’t know and all signs are he is not pleasant for a lot of players. The two memes that I don’t understand are:

“Lickliter is a good guy” and “We are still rebounding from the Alford era.”

I’m trying to be a smart ass…I sincerely do not understand either of these. Going back to last year Lickliter had communication problems with the media and it was a source of confusion and consternation. Now there is overwhelming evidence it was not just with the media.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL...I meant to say "I am NOT trying to be a smart ass"

even when I am not trying I am subconsciously trying, it appears.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it depends on your definition of a "good guy"

If you compare him to Alford during his Iowa stay, then yes, Lickliter is a great guy (wasn’t self-righteous, not an arrogant a-hole, etc).

On the other hand, commmunication issues with the media, players leaving (whether Lick’s fault or not) and losing in general cause people to think otherwise

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Guy

I certainly don’t understand it fully either, but I have some thoughts.

1) Ferentz has provided a ringing endorsement of Lick and his character. This carries a shit load of weight.
2) People closer to the system (ex. Hlas) have spoken positively about him as person.
3) While shitty, the program hasn’t been hit with any academic or disciplinary issues, absent Tucker being a lush.

Ankles! We don't need no stinking ankles!

by three and out the kok story on Mar 15, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I always found the guy to be aloof and not a strong presence..and recently a miserable communicator

of even the most basic ideas. But being a soft presence can often be coded as “good guy.” Bellanca made a good point about coaches closing ranks. I can’t put Lickliter’s demeanor anywhere near Ferentz or Brands. I would follow those two over a mountain cliff…

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I may be alone in this...

But I just don’t care how nice he is.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 15, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's nice and all that he's a good person

but that probably doesn’t translate into good coach. You don’t have to be a dick, but I think you do have to have a strong personality and make it clear to 18-22 year olds who the boss is, while not trampling their ego. I little ego and swagger isn’t a bad thing.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here is why I think many people think Lick is a nice guy...

He appears to be your typical early-middle-aged family man, who worked hard to get where he has gotten. There would be no rumors with him and weird stuff off the court (like the secretary rumor with Alford). He is white (I’m sorry, but it helps when you are in Iowa), and he appeared to be old-school (which many people find charming until it becomes a reason you are losing).

Even in his public appearances, he appeared to be quietly polite.

Finally, he appeared to be a leader who was not flashy (I’m watching an old Jim Valvano interview right now, and Lick is pretty much the polar opposite of him). In a state where many people either now have farms or have a background on the farm, not being flashy can be positive at times.

However, I do feel that his lack of personality, and lack of an ability to adapt may be big reasons why people were so quick to call for his head.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some random message board, my ass.

HaLo is more than ‘some random message board’.

HaLo did a lion’s share of the the Lois Feldman saga, and now broke this when other sites cough Rivals cough would rather ban their $10 a month premium members for talking about it.

Not throwing a barb here. We still love you guys and this board.

I like turtles.

by lilzaphod on Mar 15, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Um, what?

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll let the poster there speak for himself:

“But then again, the chief exports of HaLo are hearsay and speculation.”

Throw enough spaghetti against the wall and something is gonna stick.

We like HaLo, we read HaLo, and we appreciate the support from the posters over there, but when your breaking news is as qualified and nondescript as that post was (to say nothing of the fact that it, along with most of the speculation and rumor listed below it, was technically incorrect), I don’t see any reason for patting yourself on the back.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing I'd like to clarify...

Because I don’t want to start an e-fight, but the “rumor” posted on HaLo was not the “resigning for health reasons” rumor reported by KCJJ. The only time that appeared on HaLo was in linking to the KCJJ story. I heard (as did the several other HaLo posters who posted in that thread) that he was getting fired.

The “hearsay and speculation” was meant to be a joke (and is a reference to an old post), and yes, to acknowledge the fact that it wasn’t like Gary Barta told me personally that Lickliter was getting canned. Ultimately, HaLo is a message board, not a news outlet, so it would be irresponsible of us to “report” anything as though it was a fact. You will very rarely see anything on HaLo posted as news and not a rumor.

I think what zaph was objecting to was the “Doesn’t it sound more like the slightly unhinged fantasy of a message board Hawkeye fan being fed to unwitting sports radio jocks?” quote, which your “throw enough spaghetti against the wall” line seems to reiterate. If the implication is that this was a story made up wholesale by myself which coincidentally ended up being true, I think that is slightly silly.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 15, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, congratulations

When you guys said it was his last day, and when another commenter confirmed it was for health reasons, you definitely got the story that he was going to be fired on Monday morning correct. HaLo is right, as always.

Oh, and by the way, Jake Kelly’s not transferring:

“its not happening. it was mentioned on a Sycamore board and an indiana high school board in middle of Feb and the constant rehashing of the subject on our board caused it to snowball. i had private conversations with multiple people that i wont post on the board and they all said the same thing; that everyone on the team was sick of losing and when you combine this with jake’s personal tragedy some things got lost in translation. like a big huge game of telephone played by internet nerds.”

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again,

I think that’s a slightly silly way to recap that thread. I said he was being fired, but I didn’t know if he was coaching that day or not. Other people posted the story that you’ve posted about the player meetings. On the health issue, one person said “The rumors from various boards suggest Lick will step down, possibly citing health issues.” Then the KCJJ link was posted, as I said.

And on the Jake Kelly link? If you’re trying to equate that one post by one poster with the Lickliter firing thread, I suppose you can do that.

Like I said above – I’m not trying to equate what was posted on HaLo with some sort of official news release or anything like that. But don’t you think it’s a little silly to try and paint this as “you made something up and got lucky?” At the end of the day, does the fact that he was let go on Monday and not Thursday or Friday mean that the original post was the “unhinged fantasy of a message board Hawkeye fan”?

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bah

I think the best way for me to respond is simply this: If the point is that I made that rumor up and then it just happened to be true, then I disagree with that characterization.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 15, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, actually, I'm a sub human poster on said messageboard.

If you want to get all technical and specific like. :) *

  • Please note the smiley and put your e-penis away. It’s clearly larger than mine. Thanks.

I like turtles.

by lilzaphod on Mar 15, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I just want to point out it is a funny to say the OP “guessed right” about the firing as if it was completely unsubstantiated. I can see where you would think it was unreliable at first as he did make that joke at the end about hearsay but now that he was fired within two or three days of the post being made it is hardly intelligent to call it a lucky guess.

There was a source to the rumors, but as it wasn’t someone whose name started with “G” and ended with “ary Barta” people were told to take it lightly.

by Herky823 on Mar 15, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't read "HaLo"

And don’t care who brought the firing to the attention of the internet first. I just don’t see why lilzaphod felt the need to come here and brag about someone else’s post. Nobody gives a shit who announce a rumor first.

by The Mexican't on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Nobody gives a shit who announce a rumor first."

[sic] aside, THIS, people. And quit being butthurt about your random blog being a random blog.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

They might

and I heard a rumour that Ferentz is retiring when his current contract runs out in 2015.

So make sure I get credit for that one.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad for this discussion...

…as it highlights why BHGP is the only Hawkeye blog/board/whatever that I pay attention to.
We keep it gossip free for a reason… it’s called credibility. If you want your source of information to sound like a high school rumor mill, then have at, but the administrators here like our discussions to remain adult (while being completely childish- – n’ya, n’ya).

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually like HL quite a bit

but the way people there got upset over what is seriously the most minor slight imaginable is hilarious.

by NorseHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

looks like we crashed Dochterman's blog

I submit for consideration the term “panced” or “BHGpanced” for successful execution of an unintentional denial of service attack.

“We totally BHGpanced Dochterman’s blog when Lick was fired”
or:
“Usage of the term ‘BHGpanced’ may be a little dubious when discussing a Girl’s Gen video…”

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Mar 15, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh man

This all could have been avoided if Cougil played more minutes.

I wonder what the Sioux City Journal will write…

by TerryStross on Mar 15, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Will daddy Gatens be on the search team?

Might as well, or he’ll get the job or something…………

"For the charming if somewhat curius branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightly struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"

by tommy veryzer on Mar 15, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Gotta suck

to be John right now. We’ll all be shocked if he doesn’t transfer but he still needs to finish out his classes for the semester.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't know about that. But we know this...

the Uncle Floyd era is over…

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

That video. Fantastic.

by mattbednar on Mar 15, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who knew Lefty Driesell

could play piano.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barta had better have another coach already lined up

to assure the incoming recruits they have a reason to keep their commitment, and to avoid another shit-storm of transfers and such.

That being said, I have a hard time believing that a press conference would be scheduled so soon if another coach wasn’t ready to go – and one can only hope it’s a “big” name coach

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I dbout

anybody is lined up. They’ll announce the start of a careful search, etc etc.

The press conference is to just get the info out there and end speculation. The official signal that it’s time to move on.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a player or recruit

every day that I hear about a “careful search” etc, is another day that I wonder what is going on, who the coach will be, and if I would be better off going somewhere else.

Unless a new coach is announced very soon, I think that sets back the program even more for a couple more years.

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

How soon is "very soon"

Barta will talk to the players and do his best to keep them in town. I’ll assume that they are smart enough to understand the way these things work. It’s going to take a couple weeks, our next coach may very well be busy working right now (when is the NIT over?).

It’s better to take a little longer and get the right guy than rush it and fuck up, but boy howdy we sure hired a guy fast!!

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

These incoming players are not

John Wall type players. If they want to bolt and go play D-II then that speaks to their value right there. There are not a lot of schools with scholarships unfilled right now. And if Iowa hires a certain type of coach they are not going anywhere. But I, for one, am not losing sleep of potential. As long as Gatens, Fuller and May stay you have a nucleus. If Payne is pissed and leaves, I think he can be replaced. He is not a 6’ 9" rebounding machine…that is hard to replace. A point guard with limited defensive abilities is not hard to replace. I like the kid but he is not a deal breaker.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

sleep OVER potential.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll lose no sleep over his departure....

he will be well compenstated and land at a strong D-II program and soft D-I midmajor some day. It is a highlypaid profession for a reason. It comes with pressure and risks. He didn’t do the job. I’ll be happy when Iowa Basketball is fun again…and winning. In that order.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree... he's not going to have trouble paying his Visa bill

I could take a hell of a vacation on the buyout after taxes…

I don’t see him doing TV, though… you gotta have charisma and a pulse to call games on TV between coaching gigs.

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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember too that these kids have signed LOIs

If I’m Barta, if a recruit asks me to release him from his LOI I would say “Just wait until you talk to our new coach.” Anyone who leaves before Iowa releases him is going to have to sit out a year unless he goes and plays DII, which (as SMA says) would speak volumes as to the quality of player that we would be losing.

by MikeyJoe18 on Mar 15, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

you never know if the new coach will bring a player or two with him. There will be at least one scholarship open in a few days.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saying they'd have to go play D-II is really selling them short

There aren’t any John Wall types here, but this was legitimately a quality class and it will hurt the program to lose them.

by NorseHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

the fallout of Liclkliter’s failure is, among other things, a disruption in building the program back.

And I firmly believe we will all be on this blog in three years claiming that Lickliter deserves credit as transitioning iowa back to clean living and bringing in some building blocks…particularly if Marble or McCabe or one of these freshmen is a stud. Kind of a George Raveling recruited that talent that helped Dr. Tom to get off to a good start.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ummm, no

I knew George Raveling. And Todd Lickliter, sir, is no George Raveling.

by salparadise23 on Mar 15, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's always a few overlooked jucos out there if ppl do bolt

And I see nothing wrong with bringing in a couple of jucos if we need to keep ourselves competitive in the short-term.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

We have a little time. Something better be in place before the NCAA title game though, or I’m going to be really worried

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want to agree

But I’m highly skeptical that we’ve lined up a coach. I just can’t fathom they could’ve pulled that off in this kind of time. We need the basketball equivalent of hiring Hayden Fry this time. Has to be the right guy, with some fire, that’ll turn Iowa basketball into something. I don’t care if it’s a big name or not.

by stewartom on Mar 15, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

No coach is lined up...

half the good ones or more still have games to be played. The NIT looks like the 1999 NCAA tournament by the way.

Barta is going to carefully explain the process that led him to this decision and why he needed to make this move. Probably reassure that this is a great job worthy of a great coach (still) and then describe a search process and not be heard from again until there is a coach.

The drama will be in how Lickliter goes out. Will he burn the house down or sheepishly walk away. I think he is going to take a few well aimed shots. His career now looks like the guy who players hate to play for and cannot manage the big time. Not a great image three years removed from COY. Coaches always have to take over for someone and if he looks like a guy who needs the first break it down and then meticulously build it back up…not a lot of people will buy that this day and age.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Um, I wouldn't call this quiet LOL

Decisive, yes.

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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

true enough

I meant “please let us avoid a spat that lingers after the press conference today”

by stewartom on Mar 15, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone will have forgotten outside of IC in 2 weeks...

Unless TL whips out an AK-47 and goes postal. Doesn’t seem his style.

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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the first round of the NCAA's will be over

before we see a new coach. It may even be the second round. This will be a multiweek process and I would think that Bloodpunch will try and make a splash with this hire. His hiring of Lick, while at the time looked good, makes him look bad now and I am positive that he doesn’t want that again. Filling Carver is the no. 1 priority, and getting someone who is going to make the fans curious enough to return is what he feels has to happen.

I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry

by NileKinnickIronman on Mar 15, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Steve Lavin anybody????

You will never move forward by looking back....

by By Santo's Grace on Mar 15, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Nobody on BHGP seems to like this idea...

but I bet, that unless it is a HUGE name we are hiring, that Barta will at least want to talk to Ben Jacobson first.

And that means waiting until at least after UNI upsets Kansas in the second round. LOL

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

True...

but what if that last coach (Mac) was successful because of Jacobson?

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

But seriously.....

It’s was time for Lick to go….good riddance….now let’s atleast get back to mediocrity! From there we can build…right now this program is a disgrace to the school!

You will never move forward by looking back....

by By Santo's Grace on Mar 15, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree

A program that is a disgrace is a program that has multiple NCAA violations, players arrests, illegal recruiting and benefits, etc.

The Iowa basketball program is bad, no doubt, but nowhere near a disgrace.

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Word

People act like the worst thing the team can do is lose.

No no no.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

See also:

Binghamton

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

So the Hawkeyes may not win or play an exciting brand of basketball but at least our players are not killing people or slinging coke.

That message should work well to increase ticket sales.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 15, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Iowa Basketball:

You Will Not Need A Bail Bondsman!"

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

In Waterloo...

we have a business right across from the Black Hawk County Jail. It’s sign is yellow, and the name of the business is:

HAWKEYE BAIL BONDS!

I shit you not.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough....

Disgrace is not the right word…disappointing I guess is what I was trying to get at.

You will never move forward by looking back....

by By Santo's Grace on Mar 15, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa’s football team has not exactly been model citizens over the past 5 years.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 15, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I for one

was hoping Lick got another year because I do think he could turn it around. But, I will admit that it was quite disconcerting to see the ocean of empty seats every home game. Good luck to Lick, and especially this team, going forward.

Save your flames. What I have just posted (or you are about to post in response) will not change the outcome.

by CapitalHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm right there with you

I was one of the few who supported Lick and thought he was getting things turned around, and was looking forward to the next couple years to see what he could do.

Oh well I guess – such is life – and more importantly, such is business

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

They did have pretty good attendance when they played Ohio State at CHA

That night was more like a lake of empty seats than an ocean of them. But we all know that was because of free student tickets and the Orange Bowl bonanza that they put together before and during the game.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

Maybe they could have worked in a few other bowl victories in there to boost attendance. 2003 Outback Bowl. 2005 Capital One Bowl. 2009 Outback Bowl. You get the idea…

by CapitalHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ladies and Gentlemen

Good luck.

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Who do you see as possible replacements?

Steve Lavin, Rick Majerus, Keno Davis, Tim Floyd?

Anyone else that may really make a splash?

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm expecting a youngish guy who has been part of building something somewhere public.

But i would not rule out Bruce Pearl or an NBA guy. PJ Carlisimo….no. But someone who spent some time at the college level then went to the pro level. Someone who looks big. Lickliter just never looked big. That Butler list of NBA players was shocking…three guys in the history of that school have played NBA. Three! Lickliter has never been around NBA talent it appears. That is not good.

My hail mary is Chris Collins.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Pearl?

he declined to be interviewed by Iowa last time, saying he was flattered for the offer, but was happy in Tennessee. Would he really want to leave a top 20 program to try and rebuild the Hawks? I know a lot of coaches like the idea of a challenge, but I don’t really think Pearl would want to leave what he already has. I would love to see him back in Iowa City, but I just don’t see it happening.

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thing about Pearl is

He would walk into Iowa City as a god. Right now he is the second highest profile basketball coach at Tennessee. That may be appealing to him.

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess it depends on what motivates him

would he rather be the second highest profile coach at a school where he sells out every game with a top 20 team, or would he rather be “the man” at a school that is on a three-year losing streak and has trouble selling half of the tickets?

It all depends on what is in his head – but I don’t see him on the sidelines in Iowa City.

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'd still be the lowest men's coach here

until he proved he could win. Who ever comes in needs to realize that KF and Brands are on the top of the heap. He can join them, but only if he wins.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like he would ever be the top of the heap at TN?

Doesn’t matter who the football coach is, football at TN is king and always will be.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

The TN Men's B-Bal team was bad when he got there.

He turned them around quickly and got them to where they sell out every game now. He could fill CHA quickly with his style of play and some W’s.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I haven't seen anybody explain...

…why Pearl would WANT TO leave Tennessee for Iowa. I know, you and I know Iowa is the tits and Tennessee is hairy dog balls, but we’re biased a bit.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

he didn’t even want to be interviewed by Iowa last time, so why would that change now – he’s not coming…

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely biased

The only reason I can imagine is a serious paycheck.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that Pearl to Iowa arguments are strictly based in sentimental emotion and not incentives for Pearl to leave a program that he has built up in SEC.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I don't really expect us to get Pearl...

I think there are three things that have changed in these last three years:

a) Iowa arguably has a better, and definitely younger nucleus now.

b) Calipari just moved in next door at Kentucky. Yes, Cal was at Memphis before, but Pearl only had to deal with Memphis once per year. Now, he has to deal with Cal up to three times per year, and probably look up at him in the standings. You also have Darin Horn bringing South Carolina to life, and Ole Miss and Miss State may be on swings back to respectability. Finally, you have new coaches at Georgia and Alabama, so they will be ready to “jump up and bite” Tennessee in the ass any night they don’t give full effort.

c) This may be the biggest reason: Pearl saw what happened to Phil Fulmer. The guy had a national title in his pocket, and the university still ran him one year after they made it to the conference title game. And they did that to a former Tennessee player and a good ol’ boy (Fulmer). Imagine how quickly they might pull the trigger on a Jew from Boston.

(Note: this previous comment is not meant to be anti-semitic. It is merely meant as a way of saying all Tennesseans are anti-semitic. That is all.)

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was football

I’m not sure they view basketball the same way.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not gonna happen

We shouldn’t even talk about this sort of pipe dream. He’s kicking relative ass and enjoying himself at a top 20 program in an easier bball conference (outside of dealing with UK). There’s zero reason for him to even consider our phone call.

by stewartom on Mar 15, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let us dream man, let us dream!!!

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again,

see: Shaka Smart, VCU

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm holding out for this guy.

Imagine a coach that doesn’t need the weirding module. Ed Hightower is SCREWED.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is that a Stargate reference?

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

THE SPIIIIIIICE!!!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will NOT

let my water mingle with that of a cat.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Water!

Dr. Kynes: Bless the maker and his water, bless the coming and going of him, may his passing cleanse the world.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoever Iowa hires

had better have a baddass gom jabbar.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

x 1000

Paul: Don’t try your powers on me, witch! Try looking into that place where you dare not look. You’ll find me there, staring back at you!
Reverend Mother Mohiam: Silence him, Jessica!
Lady Jessica: [like a robot] Silence him yourself, if you can.
Paul: For ninety generations, you and your Bene Gesserit have labored in secret to produce a living, breathing weapon… a weapon that would enable you to overthrow both the Guild and the Emperor. Indeed. This weapon, I am; and these goals, I have achieved. But I’ll never be yours.
Reverend Mother Mohiam: [using the Voice] You mustn’t speak of…
Paul: [also using the Voice, which overpowers her] Silence! I remember your Gom Jabbar, now you remember mine. I can kill with a word.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just my opinions, but:

Lavin – Maybe
Majerus – No (Can’t win @ St Louis)
Keno -Maybe (Down year at Providence this year and short track record as head coach against him)
Floyd – No (I don’t think he’s been in the coaching wilderness long enough after the USC sanctions)

I would love to see Bruce Pearl. The man can sell a program, he knows how to attract students and the media. He can win quickly if given the chance. Also, the chance to watch Illini heads explode on a regular basis would make it worthwhile. Can you imagine his first trip to Shampoo-Banana?

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why would Pearl ever leave UT to come here?

Didn’t we already go through this last time? It’s not happening.

by NorseHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

He wouldn't.

But that doesn’t mean I can’t dream.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've seen some people say he was having trouble at Tenn

…the Tyler Smith or something. That might not be true. We’ll see.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would think for a probably mil+ per year we can get someone decent

Just no more hires with DIRECT Indiana ties. That’s been a disaster for us.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

RUMOR-

Barta hires co-head coaches: Brad Stevens and Damon Bailey.

Is that Indiana enough for you?

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evan Bayh is not seeking reelection to congress.

Just sayin…

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

When Iowa loses in the first round of the tournament to Murray State, Gus Johnson can use the pun yell “With the long SHOT! IT’S PUUUUUUUUUUURE! MURRAY STATE! MURRAY STATE SAYS BAYH BAYH IOWA!”?

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell me

you have the Austin Peay announcer’s phrases memorized, too.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

With all due respect to Dr. Tom...

Keno’s a big boy now.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a guy in Big East country

Keno has not taken Providence by storm…and if you have ever been to Providence you will understand why everyone except Ernie Di has bolted at the first opportunity presented. I think Keno would not be on Barta’s list…but he would take the Iowa job in an Iowa minute I would think. He has no chance in that Big East…

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

pedantic digression: is an iowa minute as fast as a ny minute?

by crabashng on Mar 15, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way longer.

Like watching corn grow.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scott Drew at Baylor?

He’s done a pretty amazing job after inheiriting the Dave Bliss mess.

by telepathetic on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scott Drew is a BUTLER GRAD!!!!!

Yikes.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I realize you guys are having some fun...

But this aversion to all things Butler and Indiana is pretty handwanky.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah?

Well I think Butler and Indiana are pretty handwanky!!!

And,

your mom goes to (an Indiana) college!

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe....

maybe. There is certainly some cultural issues that can be identified here. Hell, they make movies about “Hoosier baskebtall.” But, yes, all in good fun.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see the link I posted yesterday

listing all the Butler players to have ever gone on to the next level? 3. 3 players. 3 players ever. I don’t know that it’s that handwanky

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

So?

Thad Matta coached at Butler. He’s coaching his second overall #1 pick right now.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was head coach at Butler

for a year. Plus, he’s from Hoopeston, IL. HOOPESTON! He was born to be in basketball!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I was born to be a Hollywood A lister too

But like Lick, the bastards just never gave me a fair shake.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the list will be something like this

Stallings – Vandy – Nearly got the job 3 years ago, might be ready for a move, and probably the best guy to bring in. Also, probably the only guy that they would get from another power conference

Jankovich – Illinois St – Good coach, good resume

Lowery – Southern IL – Was on the list 3 years ago also. Signed a big extension at SIU instead of interviewing at Iowa

Lavin – Maybe. You never know

Eustachy – Say what you will, he’s a pretty good coach and might be looking to get back to the big time.

Bo Ryan – but only if they pay him like $9 million a year.

Top assistants from an Elite Program – Duke, Wisconsin, Michigan St… etc.

That’s what I’d expect to hear in a list of candidates.

by Buddy Light on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh,

I meant to put Keno on there. I’m sure he’s going to be interviewed. Sorry, just thought I had him on there.

by Buddy Light on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seconded

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of these are just silly...

…since Jankovich has accomplished jack squat at IlSU and there are a lot of SIU fans who want Lowery fired. Stallings would be okay, but what makes you think that anyone at a SEC school would come to Iowa?

by Nyghtewynd on Mar 15, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

that list is a bit Illinois-centric.

Bo Ryan wouldn’t leave.

Can we even get a top-flight assistant like Collins?

Something tells me this hire will be Keno, or Ben Jacobson, or Dana Altman. If it isn’t one of those, it will probably be a big disappointment to about 40% of Hawkeye fans.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would be very upset if it

were Dana Altman or Ben Jacobson. Altman failed misrerably at his last BCS school stop (Kansas State) and I had family there then…they fucking depised the guy with an Alfordian rage. He is best suited to the state he was raised and has seen success…it is not a surprise that (univ. of ) Nebraska has passed him over, repeatedly. Nebraska.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Altman...

made two NITs and an NCAA at KSU in four years. That is decent to very good for that situation (and for Iowa now).

Are you sure Nebraska has passed him over, or is he smart enough not to go to a football school where they have never done anything in basketball? They have made it to 6 NCAA tourneys ever, and have won one (Big 8?) conference tourney in 1994. The last time they won a reg-season conference title was 1950.

If I had built something Altman had at Creighton, I would not bolt for NU either.

That being said, Altman is not near the top of my list for the Iowa job. I don’t like how he jumped from Creighton to Ark and back, and now it appears that his own players don’t do what he wants.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Altman's luster

has worn off a bit. Creighton has been passed by UNI as the biggest threat to the big boys from the MVC.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Altman and Lickliter could be

the same guy…although Altman has at least coached a player who became a successful professional athlete.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never understood the Altman Man Crush, personally

Outside the interior of the country and some guys on ESPN, does anyone really know (or care) who he is? As I think you said earlier, if Altman was a Basketball Jesus, the Huskers would have dragged him to the dark side long ago.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we'll hire someone with a solid resume

Not necessarily what may be on a lot of radar screens right now. I think a top and respected assistant who has a rep as a good recruiter, plays uptempo, and has shown a willingness to work with the HC to adjust the system they use to the talent available.

Chances are, someone like that is going to be a person that has good rapport with the players and likely won’t act like a dick in pressers either.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

But Stallings is already very well compensated at Vandy (excess of $1.3Mill).

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

They never are...

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

If anybody thought that Lick was going to get a vote of confidence

they would probably expect him to be there. No coach=no vote of confidence

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lick might have a cold, though

Wouldn’t want to infect innocent bystanders.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hadn't thought of that

He is such a “good guy” that he would totally think of that.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, assuming the firing rumor is correct

We won’t have to worry about Lick continuing to be a gift that keeps on giving to Iowa basketball.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could also

be at home furiously planning for next season.
We shouldn’t jump to conclusions here.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am surprised to see...

that ESPN is showing any form of attention at all. I haven’t seen jack squat yet on SportsCenter or the ticker. And I just saw John Buccigross dancing with Chris McKendry, so…

God, I hate ESPN.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, gang

Went to see ‘Wonderland’ in 3D last night. Good movie. Don’t go if you have a hallucinogenic drug habit. Seriously.

Anyway, I had a dream last night that the Iowa basketball team was mired in a decade of mediocrity. They fired a beloved coach, hired a backstabbing a-hole, let that guy leave in the middle of the night, then replaced him with a guy who…who…I can’t think of a significant thing about him other than that he lost a lot.

Please tell me it was a dream.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Mar 15, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Next time, take some Lunestra

You’ll have that nice dreamless sleep that chases away nightmares with bad men, OK?

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go back to sleep

that dream isn’t over yet. Then report the results…please.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said "let that guy leave in the middle of the night"

Clearly you meant “shepherded him out of town under pretense of sorrow”

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a dream, details are always fuzzy.

But I did dream that the a-hole’s new team loses to Montana in a few days. Down one, last shot, a-hole calls a timeout, players come out looking confused and some poor kid flubs the inbounds. A-hole blames him.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Mar 15, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope...

those were not a dream, but real events. That was God’s way of punishing you for seeing Wonderland and giving money to Lucifer himself: Tim Burton.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah...

and that movie looks atrociously bad. Am I correct?

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually liked it.

It is classic Burton style though, so if you don’t like the wacky sets and colors, count yourself out.

by EnergizerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not bad at all.

Tim Burton’s weird, and being weird made him perfect for this movie. It’s the same reason he did well with the Wonka remake.

by The Mexican't on Mar 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked the Wonka remake better than the original

Especially the scene with the squirrels.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Usually I just drink Jager to make the voices go away.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

funny, Jager usually makes the voices start in my head

and mostly they say “go puke!”

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about B.J. Armstrong?

Great Iowa player, successful NBA player, championship rings, would likely be a good recruiter, and would make alums and fans happy.

Side note – he also still acts like he’s 20 – fun guy to talk to

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Because he's too smart to coach...

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

can he coach?

I’m not being a jackass, I simply have no idea.

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would seem to be kind of a requirement to take the Iowa HC position

That you’d coached something of significance before… the coaching ranks of full (and later emptied) of great players who turn out to be coaching flops.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

As well as GM's... look at MJ

He’s not exactly been a screaming success as a basketball team owner or manager.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that could kind of be a problem

And since we don’t have gambling casinos or year round golf in Iowa City, I guess he’s out. Oh well.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Riverside Casino

is not that far from Iowa City – 20 minutes from Carver

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Riverside can cover the sort of bets...

that MJ makes on a twice-per-day basis.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...never has

he’s an exec now.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe BJ is an agent these days.

http://www.bjarmstrong10.com/

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 15, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds good.

Let’s hire BJ and someone who can actually coach. That way, we can have an in-house agent helping our players toward the big money NBA.

We call it the “Deion Sanders” plan.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Barta needs someone with a little more sideline experience than that.

Armstrong would be a nice choice as an assistant, of course, but it’s time to think a little more inside the box.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we bring back Judd Heathcote? Is he still alive?

I loved watching him throw his coat. That could be pretty exciting.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would love to see him as an assisant

and after thinking about it for a few seconds, realized that he would probably be much better in that role than as a head coach, at least initially.

I think he would be great to have on the bench as an opportunity for players and recruits to learn from a guy who has actually won an NBA championship, and he could make for a great coaching staff with whoever we hire to replace Lick

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

As an agent

Wouldn’t that be a huge pay cut?

by Dweeze on Mar 15, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin Gamble's a head coach

at Illinois-Springfield. Sounds like he has done pretty well but I’m sure they want someone with a track record beyond NAIA-level.

by Brock Sampson on Mar 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t help that he lost the best player he had in his tenure through no fault of his own. Obviously there have been problems, but the team looks pretty different if Jake Kelly were around (and of course, presuming he didn’t blow his knee anyways had he stayed).

It doesn’t look great that his 30-ish year old assistant at Butler took over and immediately upgraded the recruiting and the quality of play though either. There is way more talent on that Butler team now than Lickliter ever had there and although Howard, who is probably the highest-rated guy they’ve had by the recruiting services, committed while Lickliter was still the coach, the others (Hayward and Mack especially) are all Stevens guys.

by Yinka Double Dare on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

That's it. I'm on the Brad Stevens bandwagon. You sold me!

Seriously though, can you imagine the shit storm that would follow that press conference?

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got a funny feeling that this guy will be in the mix

http://www.byucougars.com/StaffProfile.jsp?ID=115

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Good call SMA.

I could see that. I hadn’t thought about him, blinded by my obvious lust for Pearl.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been mostly west coast but

he has the kind of credentials we will likely see in our next coach. Very experienced assistant who can recruit and run an offense. And, honestly, if he coached at BYU you know he will be clean…even with that UNLV stint on his record.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with you

He looks like the kind of guy we’d go after.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, he may seem like the type of person we may go after

but has he ever given any indication whatsoever that the feeling may be mutual?

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure how you indicate that

Does he have a twitter or facebook account where he lists schools that he would consider as potential head coaching destinations? Does he have to like pork and readily available booze?

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless he has no aspirations whatsoever for being a head coach

he’s in the mix. Everyone is. This is a Big Ten basketball program and I would say we can do $1 mil to $1.5 mil easy. This job is a great job. Don’t kid yourself. This isn’t Drake.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get the "Iowa is a sh*t job mentality".

Yes, Iowa City is cold. Yes, its 4 hours from a “major metro area”. So?

On 1+ million per year its a damn nice place to live… and if you win, you are a a God Amongst The People.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would love to live in IC

it isn’t Ames…the place is nice. And I got news for people…in NJ we just dug out from 3 1/2 feet of snow and then got 6 inches of rain. If weather meant anything in a baskebtall hire San Diego State would have 10 National Championships, followed by Northern Arizona.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You live in Jersey? Oh man, I feel for you.

Anytime you feel like you’re going batshit crazy… hop SW and come crash a couple of days at my crib here in Sacramento. Totally serious. Sac has its issues but lack of sunshine isn’t one. We have snow here – on the Sierras, and they look really pretty with snow on ‘em when I’m jogging in shorts and a tshirt, like I was yesterday.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or feel free

to come to Chandler, AZ. Sure, the summers are hot as hell, but right now, it’s 65-70 degrees, and I spent yesterday sitting in the sun watching spring training baseball

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice!

I’m about to walk to the bank in a few minutes and deposit child support (its the 15th, ugh) but it will be a nice walk over there. :)

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no complaints

plus it’s only an hour and a half drive to Tucson for the Iowa/AZ game this season….

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it's been 60ish and sunny in IC this weekend

Supposed to be even warmer today. Doubly sunny in IC today I guess. And it’s spring break so you can navigate downtown and find parking.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously though

I’d take the high desert of northern NM or AZ any day over the weather here.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Warm weather makes you soft.

Ask Georgia Tech.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been waiting for you to show up

How are you today sir?

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fine, thank you.

It’s 50 degrees, the trees are bare, but the birds are singing. There was still snow here a few days ago.

It’s glorious.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Many of our trees still are leafless as well...

We just don’t get much < freezing weather in Sacramento… but we have a lot of upper 40-low 50 rainy days in winter.

It doesn’t go below 40 at night very much.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just wrong.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It may well be

But I must admit sitting outside having breakfast on a sunny cafe porch on a Saturday or Sunday morning – in Feb or March – in shorts and an Iowa hoodie rocks.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of life's little luxuries

that we get with our warmer weather – amen Leftcoast

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, I've got a damn hot GF

Some of these Cali girls… man :)

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice work

but I got myself a hot Iowa girl. At least she can put down her booze and go apeshit crazy whenever Iowa scores a TD

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine went to Sac State

But has been amazingly supportive of my Iowa obsession. She’ll even watch the games with me… she likes football :)

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine's A Steelers fan

so I tell her to just pretend they goofed up the logo on the helmets. She’s coming around though. Still won’t let me paint a tigerhawk on the living room wall. Yet.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

too funny

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a #5 Iowa jersey

that I bought my sophmore year at Iowa and have subsequently worn for every Iowa game since. During the Orange Bowl, I had a woman (very attractive, I may add) tap me on the shoulder at the Iowa alum bar in Mesa and ask me if I used to be a quarterback at Iowa

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's when its inconvenient to have a GF/finance/etc.

LOL

Good for you. No one is going to mistake a 5’5" 155# guy in a #12 jersey as an Iowa QB. Even though I still am pretty cool otherwise. :)

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine Did

I live in Phoenix also, with my girlfriend who went to Iowa also. We made our office a Hawkeye room. Pictures here.

'They are who we thought they were!'

by twsmith23 on Mar 15, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine Did

I live in Phoenix also, with my girlfriend who went to Iowa also. We made our office a Hawkeye room. Pictures here.

'They are who we thought they were!'

by twsmith23 on Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very nice!

Thanks for sharing. I’m planning on buying a home here in Sacramento in the next year, and doing the same thing…

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You probably don't get frost in May.

Just ridiculous.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

We got frost 2x this winter.

And it was gone within a half hour of sunrise.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

BSD Mike lives in Houston and likes to share stories from "snowstorms" there.

He says drivers start slipping when a half of an inch of snow falls. He also said he found his neighbor putting mulch on his driveway for “traction”.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

MULCH? That's hilarious

Seriously, we have so many microclimes here its ridiculous… but Cali is the size of many foreign countries too.

I actually have tire chains in my trunk… even in the middle of summer, you can have a freak storm up in the Sierras that will require chains. Can you say “Donner Party?”

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

there was a story here in VA

on the local news telling everyone not to put ice melt on their lawns as it will kill the grass. It apparently has been done several times before.

"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

This does not surprise me.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that is Pennsylvania grammar.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never seen a PA grandma

But there’s always a first time!

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't completely adjusted to the heat yet

I spent the first 23 years of my life in Iowa, and only the past 1.7 years in AZ. I’m one of the few that still think 55 degrees in January is quite warm and wear shorts and a t-shirt instead of a down parka, hat, gloves, and scarf

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

At 55

I’m opening windows. Get some fresh air.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I make fun of my fiancee for putting on a sweatshirt when we make the 3 block walk to the local brewery when it’s 60 degrees out

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

i did that at at 35 - 40 degrees this winter

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on Mar 15, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too many distractions in a place like San Diego

Who wants to be stuck in a gym shooting FTs when you can be on a beach ogling hotties?

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not everybody

likes the major metro areas anyway. I’ve regretted ever leaving IC many times. I almost moved back once. The only thing Chicagoland has going for it is better job opprotunities.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course the Iowa job is a great job

and that’s not what I meant. I was merely saying that it seems everything he has done is on the west coast, so I wasn’t sure if he had any desire to come to the midwest – money or not

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check out Lute before Iowa

Raveling before Iowa. Big Ten basketball program….16K arena….$1.5 million a year.

There are probably no more than about 20-30 guys we cannot get. That’s it.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

it’s been a weird morning – just thinking aloud

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a native Iowa than lives in Kalifornia, and has been gone since '87

I make about 100K a year, and in the Central Valley in Sacramento that’s not a bad middle class salary. If I could make that kind of money in DSM or IC I’d probably still be somewhat hesitant to go home… the weather is so brutal and after you’ve lived in the West and decent sized metros for a while, there are a lot of things Iowa can’t offer those areas can.

Yes, our housing prices are still high in comparison, but – they’ve come down a lot – and you can’t write off heating costs like you can mortgage interest.

That said, if I could get another 50K a year, I’d move home. That’s vacation escape money during the winter.

So, do the math… if you’re making 200K as an assistant in the West and someone waves 1 mill per + bonuses for good behavior and Ws in front of you, you’d be packing the minivan.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like a West Coast guy though...

And while its not balmy in the Wasatch Valley, I’m not sure you’re going to convince him to come to the freezer where you can buy coffee 7 days a week and BEER!

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He probably makes $200K if he's lucky

and has to buy liquor in tiny bottles at a restaurant…he’ll love IC.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take him to Dirty John's when he comes in for the interview

Screw a separate practice facility. Being able to buy vintage 12 packs of Black Label < $5.00 – this is the place for you baby.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

After Utah

the world looks like an open bar.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have been to SLC

Fortunately, I left in another plane about an hour later.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

SLC is awesome

if your bedtime is 7PM.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we're taking someone off 1989-90 UNLV, I would prefer it be Grandmama.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

REACT JUICE BABY

Nothing screams advanced footwear like mysterious goo oozing out of your shoe. I think it was the same material that is at the core of Happy Fun Ball.

by Yinka Double Dare on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about Scott Drew?

He’s a midwest guy and turned around one of the only D-I programs in worse shape than Iowa’s currently in… he did graduate from Butler though, so that might scare the search committee a bit.

by Boschee4three on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

No more Hoosiers....no fucking more.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Posted in the wrong place before

Mike Davis? Coached at IU, but he’s a ’Bama guy.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a drama queen too

he would be like jeans in a linen closet at Iowa. No more Hoosiers.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree to a degree...

but he’s recruited a nice stable of athletes to play at Baylor, so I’m thinking he could get some ballers to Iowa City.. plus he’s spent seven years in the Dallas/Waco area, so I think the stink of the Hoosier State might be off him by now.

by Boschee4three on Mar 15, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does that eliminate Mike Davis?

Because he could actually be a good hire.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes

At some point you do the calculus…

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis is

an above average recruiter but a TERRIBLE X’s and O’s coach. Those Indiana teams – with great talent – were horribly coached. The Final Four / championship game team was a) mostly players who had been coached by Knight for several years and b) x’s and o’s were done by the top assistant, not Davis

by hdhawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has got to be some sort of record

for posts about a story that hasn’t even happened yet…

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

It's Monday

and there’s fuck all else to talk about.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

We could talk about how we'll get in next with 96 teams and a new coach

16 can be the new magic bubble #er!

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's pent up frustration.

After all the rumors last week, this board has been waiting for an explosion like this. Also, the story is a foregone conclusion now. It’s not like we’re being fueled solely by rumor and speculation.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's BHGP

any and all conversation tangents count

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

All that talk about Arizona weather...

…and not one reference to THE GADSDEN PURCHASE?

Have we taught you ingrates nothing?!

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really think we're *that* bright?

Because if we were, we’d have better blogs that this one up! ;)

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Gadsen Purchase

only covered the southernmost part of Arizona, where no one lives anyway. Plus, they’ve already been eliminated from Marchifornication, so we’ve moved on

by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hockeybear loves cold weather.

Thus, cold weather wins.

"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a name nobody has mentioned

VCU coach, Shaka Smart. In addition to being A) young (read: exciting), B) well-spoken and by all accounts C) talented, he is also a Midwesterner (from Madison, WI) who built his coaching chops in Ohio before moving onto stints at Clemson and Florida. He’s got a real resume and looks to be the anti-Lickliter.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and his name is AWESOME!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

How important is it that somebody have an established head coaching resume?

I’m not sure exactly how i feel. What’s really important is how Barta et al feel. Are they going to try and hire an established name or take a chance on an assistant or somebody with a few years as a head coach?

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa doesn't need experience

as much as excitement. There’s absolutely ZERO buzz around this program right now, and that extends from the fans to the players. If you look at Smart’s resume, while it may lack significant head coaching, he’s been around good programs. Also, and this may seem superfluous, he got his degree from Kenyon i.e. his last name is apt.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Let’s see what happens. I’ve always been a fan of winning on the court and not necessarily winning the press conference. Lickliter is looking like a press conference win and not much else.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think releasing 1000s of live venomous snakes during the game could generate some excitement

We could see if there are any potential diamonds in the rough in the stands hopping away from those suckers. Think “Snakes on a Plane” adapted to CHA. That could rule.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously

skip to about 21:30 in the introductory press conference at the bottom of the link in my first post. THAT is the kind of play we are longing/looking for.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shaka Smart looks intriguing and VCU has been a coaching stepping stone with Capel and Grant. I am still sold on UTEP’s Tony Barbee. I hope Barta’s former coworker experience with him at Wyoming is a plus.

http://utepathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/barbee_tony00.html

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 15, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

UTEP

is a hot commodity after this year. Trying to grab Barbee might bring with it some serious competition, and it would suck to lose that race and have another good selection taken before Iowa regroups. VCU is in the CBI, and therefore under the radar. The more I read about Smart the more I like him.

Don’t get me wrong, I would hardly complain if they landed Barbee, I just don’t know if those stars will align.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Shaka Smart...

really sang well in the late 70s and early 80s.

“I’m Every Woman” is an awesome song.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes because

his parents were surely thinking of Chaka Khan rather than Shaka of the Zulu.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 16, 2010 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well shit we better never hire a well regarded coach ever again

They’re just like Lickliter!!!!

Barbee isn’t anything like him aside from having success at the mid-major level. He was a very successful assistant under Calipari and is a proven recruiter.

by NorseHawk on Mar 15, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's going to enter

like this.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

It will be a perfect illustration

of why he’s leaving.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of feel sorry for Big Lick

Not sure why. I think Iowa could have handled this better.

by Duez I say on Mar 15, 2010 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Everyone could've handled this better

But if you really want to point a finger at the originator of the entire mess, point it at the Stanford campus, because that’s the moron that started it all.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

YOU

could have handled this better.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't recall

much crying when it happened.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

That’s silly talk. Bowlsby was a fine AD, and now he’s long gone. Let it go.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

he made more good decisions than bad. Probably why the school that wins the Director’s Cup nearly every year wanted him as their AD.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

These things are never handled well

my wife said it best, guys want to believe you can breakup and still be friends. It’s a pipe dream. We’re basically telling Lickliter we don’t respect his ability. There is not too many ways to sugar coat that.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

you can buy a nice life in suburban Indianapolis with $2.4 million in your pocket.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Broad Ripple baby

Indianpolis’ Beaverdale. Pay 100Ks for a house with no closets but ah, the hardwood and glass doorknobs.

Speaking of which, I’m selling my parents house in Beaverdale. 3 1/2, built in 1941. Any takers?

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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one

who has a hard time reconciling the concept of “nice life” with “suburban Indianapolis”?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point taken

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll pass on Indiana...

but that is Todd’s home. He loveth the placeth.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I'll pass on Indiana"

should become the Kentucky Tourism Board’s new slogan.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guys want to believe

that we can break up and still keep getting in her pants until our next steady comes along. Not sure how that applies to this situation though.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've managed to make that work a couple of times

Although its a lot easier to pull that one off when in your early 20s and drunk vs. almost 50 and drunk.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still use that today and im in my mid 30's

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

A man's got to what a man's got to do.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 15, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as you're not violating any dating age rules...

You know, 1/2 your age + 7.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

18

is the only rule. Not that I’ll ever have a chance at an 18 year ever again, but I don’t want to close any doors.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm 48... and I briefly dated

A 29 year old in 2006. That was fun.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep my range in the constraints of the rule book.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That the formula

for fahrenheit to celsius too…or the other way around. I forget actually.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we really expecting ANYTHING out of the presser, other than...

“Todd sucked, we just fired him, any questions?”

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

Iowa is a place to grow.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone esle watching the live feed of the press conference?

I love the casual nature of Iowa. Not a suit jacket in sight. And I saw only two ties…one was untied of course.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Link?

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Barta has an eye patch on...

we’ll know that Lickliter didn’t go down without a fight after all.

"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or that he's bringing in Mike Leach

His offenses scored more points than Lick’s and probably passed the ball more.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine

Cully Payne in an electrical closet? Yeah, me too.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bawinkel's gone

That leaves Brommer as the prime candidate.

by PackerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very good opening statement.

Barta being very upfront.

My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com

by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

JOKE FAIL

Curses. Trying to post a photoshopped gem.

by Nomo Stanziballs on Mar 15, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

player defections= termination for coach

I think the real nail in the coffin for TL was the seemingly yearly player defections rather than the overall win/loss record. Old Mother Hubbard has more in the Cupboard than the Hawkeye BB program!! Rebuilding is a process that the Hawkeye faithful would have been patient about had there been a glimmer of success for future seasons. But when EVERY year is a rebuilding year with no upperclassmen to guide the way things became perpetually bleak. Couple that with TL’s low key sort of bland personality and the whole program took on the look of mediocrity and failure. We need a coach with some fire in his belly and a plan to have measurable success each year.

by techhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

lichleiter

Gary Barta says his legacy will not be about whom he hires…..I alweays thought that the AD’s success or failure was based in no small part on who it is that he or she hires to advance the programs……isn’t this the same guy who failed with Zelisky and Alford? Why is it that the university needs to hire a “search firm” when search is HIS job?

by jreggied on Mar 17, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know if

it’s the uber-Germanic spelling you gave to Lickliter, or the (inaccurate) assertion that Barta had anything to do with Alford, but I can’t really follow your post.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Barta didn't hire Zalesky or Alford.

Search firms are just part of the process now, for the most part. If nothing else, they give schools plausible deniability.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

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