Todd Lickliter Fired as Iowa Basketball Coach
by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 10:33 AM CDT
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The meeting is over. So too, apparently, is the Todd Lickliter era at Iowa.
After a 9:00 meeting with athletic director Gary Barta that lasted all of 8 minutes ("It took Donald Trump longer to fire someone on last night's Celebrity Apprentice" said Press-Citizen columnist and renowned blues singer Pat Harty on KCJJ), Todd Lickliter briefly returned to his office and left Carver Hawkeye Arena. Scott Dochterman, reporting for all of us who have day jobs, says it's done. Todd Lickliter has been terminated.
A press conference has been scheduled for 2:30 where we hope to have the rumors of the last week answered and the coaching search updated. We'll be liveblogging it here.
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Holy shit
Well…I guess bloodpunch did it his way
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions
Nice to see a fellow BCBer!
"For the charming if somewhat curius branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightly struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"
by tommy veryzer on Mar 15, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
The rumors
Rumor nearly-universally held but unconfirmed was a number of players notified Barta and/or Mims of their intent to transfer on Tuesday night. Barta contacted Lick’s agent about a way of saving face through “resignation” over “health reasons.” Barta thought he had an agreement, and then Lick pulled out the rug with his “I’m healthy…” line after the game. Hence the quick termination.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
What?
a number of players notified Barta and/or Mims of their intent to transfer on Tuesday night…
Seriously? Is this guy a serial killer in the locker room? This is the kind of reputation that will be hard to resurface with.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Short of Barta acknowledging it I don’t know if this will ever be “confirmed”, but I’ve heard this from multiple (read: Non-internet) sources.
I thought
most (if not all) of the team was behind Lick, and some (Payne) saying they may transfer if Lick is gone?
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Point is
There seemed to be a lot of talk about the team, pretty much the whole team, standing by him.
For “a number”, meaning more than 1 and probably more than 2, of players to say they’re ready to bolt, well, thinks in that locker room must have been toxic
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the dividing line is...
Cully Payne and Eric May…who feel totally like Lickliter recruits and everyone else. May is an Iowa guy and he caught on with the fans. I would be surprised to see him go. He will thrive in a more uptempo system.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm looking forward to breakaway dunks, myself
Where the person doing the dunking is wearing an Iowa uniform.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Been a long time since we saw those
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
And breakaway dunks with other TEAMS on the court
I can dream, can’t I?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't like breakaway
fouls?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this guy a serial killer in the locker room?
When TL talks about the “Butler Way”, maybe he means it as in “the butler did it.”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Too bad
This is something that probably had to happen, but it is not a good deal for any party. Lick seems to be a good guy who was just in over his head, and the Hawks are looking like ND football right about now.
"For the charming if somewhat curius branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightly struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"
Guh. Well at least that part of it is finally fucking over.
A shitty deal all the way around. It’d be a lot easier if he’d been caught fucking a player or selling meth in the IMU or something. As it is, he’s a good guy and I wish him the best.
"Do a flip!" - Bender B. Rodriguez
by Bucketochicken on Mar 15, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
Can you guys posthumously add him to Marchifornication?
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
JoePa had better watch out.
TL may be out for blood. I imagine he’ll stop at nothing for a shot at the postseason…
by The Mexican't on Mar 15, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
If player defections were really about to happen, then this is absolutely necessary. Still sorry about it though. He’s a good guy, and I always want to stand w/our coaches. We’ve got to hit a home run on this next one. I don’t care about names or pedigree; I care that he’s got fire in his belly, keeps the good players, and has the ability to go get more.
With all due respect
why do people find Lickliter to be a “good guy”? I’m just asking. I don’t know and all signs are he is not pleasant for a lot of players. The two memes that I don’t understand are:
“Lickliter is a good guy” and “We are still rebounding from the Alford era.”
I’m trying to be a smart ass…I sincerely do not understand either of these. Going back to last year Lickliter had communication problems with the media and it was a source of confusion and consternation. Now there is overwhelming evidence it was not just with the media.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL...I meant to say "I am NOT trying to be a smart ass"
even when I am not trying I am subconsciously trying, it appears.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it depends on your definition of a "good guy"
If you compare him to Alford during his Iowa stay, then yes, Lickliter is a great guy (wasn’t self-righteous, not an arrogant a-hole, etc).
On the other hand, commmunication issues with the media, players leaving (whether Lick’s fault or not) and losing in general cause people to think otherwise
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Good Guy
I certainly don’t understand it fully either, but I have some thoughts.
1) Ferentz has provided a ringing endorsement of Lick and his character. This carries a shit load of weight.
2) People closer to the system (ex. Hlas) have spoken positively about him as person.
3) While shitty, the program hasn’t been hit with any academic or disciplinary issues, absent Tucker being a lush.
Ankles! We don't need no stinking ankles!
by three and out the kok story on Mar 15, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Brands also endorsed Lick
and I wouldn’t want to piss him off
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I always found the guy to be aloof and not a strong presence..and recently a miserable communicator
of even the most basic ideas. But being a soft presence can often be coded as “good guy.” Bellanca made a good point about coaches closing ranks. I can’t put Lickliter’s demeanor anywhere near Ferentz or Brands. I would follow those two over a mountain cliff…
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
It's nice and all that he's a good person
but that probably doesn’t translate into good coach. You don’t have to be a dick, but I think you do have to have a strong personality and make it clear to 18-22 year olds who the boss is, while not trampling their ego. I little ego and swagger isn’t a bad thing.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Here is why I think many people think Lick is a nice guy...
He appears to be your typical early-middle-aged family man, who worked hard to get where he has gotten. There would be no rumors with him and weird stuff off the court (like the secretary rumor with Alford). He is white (I’m sorry, but it helps when you are in Iowa), and he appeared to be old-school (which many people find charming until it becomes a reason you are losing).
Even in his public appearances, he appeared to be quietly polite.
Finally, he appeared to be a leader who was not flashy (I’m watching an old Jim Valvano interview right now, and Lick is pretty much the polar opposite of him). In a state where many people either now have farms or have a background on the farm, not being flashy can be positive at times.
However, I do feel that his lack of personality, and lack of an ability to adapt may be big reasons why people were so quick to call for his head.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Some random message board, my ass.
HaLo is more than ‘some random message board’.
HaLo did a lion’s share of the the Lois Feldman saga, and now broke this when other sites cough Rivals cough would rather ban their $10 a month premium members for talking about it.
Not throwing a barb here. We still love you guys and this board.
I like turtles.
Um, what?
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
From Thursday
http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2010/3/11/1368542/about-the-todd-lickliter
First link.
I like turtles.
I'll let the poster there speak for himself:
“But then again, the chief exports of HaLo are hearsay and speculation.”
Throw enough spaghetti against the wall and something is gonna stick.
We like HaLo, we read HaLo, and we appreciate the support from the posters over there, but when your breaking news is as qualified and nondescript as that post was (to say nothing of the fact that it, along with most of the speculation and rumor listed below it, was technically incorrect), I don’t see any reason for patting yourself on the back.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
One thing I'd like to clarify...
Because I don’t want to start an e-fight, but the “rumor” posted on HaLo was not the “resigning for health reasons” rumor reported by KCJJ. The only time that appeared on HaLo was in linking to the KCJJ story. I heard (as did the several other HaLo posters who posted in that thread) that he was getting fired.
The “hearsay and speculation” was meant to be a joke (and is a reference to an old post), and yes, to acknowledge the fact that it wasn’t like Gary Barta told me personally that Lickliter was getting canned. Ultimately, HaLo is a message board, not a news outlet, so it would be irresponsible of us to “report” anything as though it was a fact. You will very rarely see anything on HaLo posted as news and not a rumor.
I think what zaph was objecting to was the “Doesn’t it sound more like the slightly unhinged fantasy of a message board Hawkeye fan being fed to unwitting sports radio jocks?” quote, which your “throw enough spaghetti against the wall” line seems to reiterate. If the implication is that this was a story made up wholesale by myself which coincidentally ended up being true, I think that is slightly silly.
OK, congratulations
When you guys said it was his last day, and when another commenter confirmed it was for health reasons, you definitely got the story that he was going to be fired on Monday morning correct. HaLo is right, as always.
Oh, and by the way, Jake Kelly’s not transferring:
“its not happening. it was mentioned on a Sycamore board and an indiana high school board in middle of Feb and the constant rehashing of the subject on our board caused it to snowball. i had private conversations with multiple people that i wont post on the board and they all said the same thing; that everyone on the team was sick of losing and when you combine this with jake’s personal tragedy some things got lost in translation. like a big huge game of telephone played by internet nerds.”
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Again,
I think that’s a slightly silly way to recap that thread. I said he was being fired, but I didn’t know if he was coaching that day or not. Other people posted the story that you’ve posted about the player meetings. On the health issue, one person said “The rumors from various boards suggest Lick will step down, possibly citing health issues.” Then the KCJJ link was posted, as I said.
And on the Jake Kelly link? If you’re trying to equate that one post by one poster with the Lickliter firing thread, I suppose you can do that.
Like I said above – I’m not trying to equate what was posted on HaLo with some sort of official news release or anything like that. But don’t you think it’s a little silly to try and paint this as “you made something up and got lucky?” At the end of the day, does the fact that he was let go on Monday and not Thursday or Friday mean that the original post was the “unhinged fantasy of a message board Hawkeye fan”?
Bah
I think the best way for me to respond is simply this: If the point is that I made that rumor up and then it just happened to be true, then I disagree with that characterization.
So this is why we've had so many first timers posting on here lately...
…and why so many of them have sounded like breathless rumormongers.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 15, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
No, actually, I'm a sub human poster on said messageboard.
If you want to get all technical and specific like. :) *
- Please note the smiley and put your e-penis away. It’s clearly larger than mine. Thanks.
I like turtles.
Did you come here just to gloat about someone else guessing correclty about the firing and act like a douche?
by The Mexican't on Mar 15, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
I just want to point out it is a funny to say the OP “guessed right” about the firing as if it was completely unsubstantiated. I can see where you would think it was unreliable at first as he did make that joke at the end about hearsay but now that he was fired within two or three days of the post being made it is hardly intelligent to call it a lucky guess.
There was a source to the rumors, but as it wasn’t someone whose name started with “G” and ended with “ary Barta” people were told to take it lightly.
I don't read "HaLo"
And don’t care who brought the firing to the attention of the internet first. I just don’t see why lilzaphod felt the need to come here and brag about someone else’s post. Nobody gives a shit who announce a rumor first.
by The Mexican't on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
"Nobody gives a shit who announce a rumor first."
[sic] aside, THIS, people. And quit being butthurt about your random blog being a random blog.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
They might
and I heard a rumour that Ferentz is retiring when his current contract runs out in 2015.
So make sure I get credit for that one.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
I'm so glad for this discussion...
…as it highlights why BHGP is the only Hawkeye blog/board/whatever that I pay attention to.
We keep it gossip free for a reason… it’s called credibility. If you want your source of information to sound like a high school rumor mill, then have at, but the administrators here like our discussions to remain adult (while being completely childish- – n’ya, n’ya).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually like HL quite a bit
but the way people there got upset over what is seriously the most minor slight imaginable is hilarious.
looks like we crashed Dochterman's blog
I submit for consideration the term “panced” or “BHGpanced” for successful execution of an unintentional denial of service attack.
“We totally BHGpanced Dochterman’s blog when Lick was fired”
or:
“Usage of the term ‘BHGpanced’ may be a little dubious when discussing a Girl’s Gen video…”
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Mar 15, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions
Oh man
This all could have been avoided if Cougil played more minutes.
I wonder what the Sioux City Journal will write…
Will daddy Gatens be on the search team?
Might as well, or he’ll get the job or something…………
"For the charming if somewhat curius branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightly struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"
Gotta suck
to be John right now. We’ll all be shocked if he doesn’t transfer but he still needs to finish out his classes for the semester.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Well, I don't know about that. But we know this...
the Uncle Floyd era is over…
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Who knew Lefty Driesell
could play piano.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Barta had better have another coach already lined up
to assure the incoming recruits they have a reason to keep their commitment, and to avoid another shit-storm of transfers and such.
That being said, I have a hard time believing that a press conference would be scheduled so soon if another coach wasn’t ready to go – and one can only hope it’s a “big” name coach
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions
I dbout
anybody is lined up. They’ll announce the start of a careful search, etc etc.
The press conference is to just get the info out there and end speculation. The official signal that it’s time to move on.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
As a player or recruit
every day that I hear about a “careful search” etc, is another day that I wonder what is going on, who the coach will be, and if I would be better off going somewhere else.
Unless a new coach is announced very soon, I think that sets back the program even more for a couple more years.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
How soon is "very soon"
Barta will talk to the players and do his best to keep them in town. I’ll assume that they are smart enough to understand the way these things work. It’s going to take a couple weeks, our next coach may very well be busy working right now (when is the NIT over?).
It’s better to take a little longer and get the right guy than rush it and fuck up, but boy howdy we sure hired a guy fast!!
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
These incoming players are not
John Wall type players. If they want to bolt and go play D-II then that speaks to their value right there. There are not a lot of schools with scholarships unfilled right now. And if Iowa hires a certain type of coach they are not going anywhere. But I, for one, am not losing sleep of potential. As long as Gatens, Fuller and May stay you have a nucleus. If Payne is pissed and leaves, I think he can be replaced. He is not a 6’ 9" rebounding machine…that is hard to replace. A point guard with limited defensive abilities is not hard to replace. I like the kid but he is not a deal breaker.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
sleep OVER potential.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
You sure are an excited dude toooday
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll lose no sleep over his departure....
he will be well compenstated and land at a strong D-II program and soft D-I midmajor some day. It is a highlypaid profession for a reason. It comes with pressure and risks. He didn’t do the job. I’ll be happy when Iowa Basketball is fun again…and winning. In that order.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree... he's not going to have trouble paying his Visa bill
I could take a hell of a vacation on the buyout after taxes…
I don’t see him doing TV, though… you gotta have charisma and a pulse to call games on TV between coaching gigs.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember too that these kids have signed LOIs
If I’m Barta, if a recruit asks me to release him from his LOI I would say “Just wait until you talk to our new coach.” Anyone who leaves before Iowa releases him is going to have to sit out a year unless he goes and plays DII, which (as SMA says) would speak volumes as to the quality of player that we would be losing.
Also
you never know if the new coach will bring a player or two with him. There will be at least one scholarship open in a few days.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Saying they'd have to go play D-II is really selling them short
There aren’t any John Wall types here, but this was legitimately a quality class and it will hurt the program to lose them.
I agree
the fallout of Liclkliter’s failure is, among other things, a disruption in building the program back.
And I firmly believe we will all be on this blog in three years claiming that Lickliter deserves credit as transitioning iowa back to clean living and bringing in some building blocks…particularly if Marble or McCabe or one of these freshmen is a stud. Kind of a George Raveling recruited that talent that helped Dr. Tom to get off to a good start.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Ummm, no
I knew George Raveling. And Todd Lickliter, sir, is no George Raveling.
by salparadise23 on Mar 15, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
There's always a few overlooked jucos out there if ppl do bolt
And I see nothing wrong with bringing in a couple of jucos if we need to keep ourselves competitive in the short-term.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
We have a little time. Something better be in place before the NCAA title game though, or I’m going to be really worried
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I want to agree
But I’m highly skeptical that we’ve lined up a coach. I just can’t fathom they could’ve pulled that off in this kind of time. We need the basketball equivalent of hiring Hayden Fry this time. Has to be the right guy, with some fire, that’ll turn Iowa basketball into something. I don’t care if it’s a big name or not.
No coach is lined up...
half the good ones or more still have games to be played. The NIT looks like the 1999 NCAA tournament by the way.
Barta is going to carefully explain the process that led him to this decision and why he needed to make this move. Probably reassure that this is a great job worthy of a great coach (still) and then describe a search process and not be heard from again until there is a coach.
The drama will be in how Lickliter goes out. Will he burn the house down or sheepishly walk away. I think he is going to take a few well aimed shots. His career now looks like the guy who players hate to play for and cannot manage the big time. Not a great image three years removed from COY. Coaches always have to take over for someone and if he looks like a guy who needs the first break it down and then meticulously build it back up…not a lot of people will buy that this day and age.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Um, I wouldn't call this quiet LOL
Decisive, yes.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
true enough
I meant “please let us avoid a spat that lingers after the press conference today”
Everyone will have forgotten outside of IC in 2 weeks...
Unless TL whips out an AK-47 and goes postal. Doesn’t seem his style.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
It's the quiet ones
that always go apeshit crazy…
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the first round of the NCAA's will be over
before we see a new coach. It may even be the second round. This will be a multiweek process and I would think that Bloodpunch will try and make a splash with this hire. His hiring of Lick, while at the time looked good, makes him look bad now and I am positive that he doesn’t want that again. Filling Carver is the no. 1 priority, and getting someone who is going to make the fans curious enough to return is what he feels has to happen.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Mar 15, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions
Steve Lavin anybody????
You will never move forward by looking back....
by By Santo's Grace on Mar 15, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions
Nobody on BHGP seems to like this idea...
but I bet, that unless it is a HUGE name we are hiring, that Barta will at least want to talk to Ben Jacobson first.
And that means waiting until at least after UNI upsets Kansas in the second round. LOL
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
True...
but what if that last coach (Mac) was successful because of Jacobson?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
But seriously.....
It’s was time for Lick to go….good riddance….now let’s atleast get back to mediocrity! From there we can build…right now this program is a disgrace to the school!
You will never move forward by looking back....
by By Santo's Grace on Mar 15, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions
I disagree
A program that is a disgrace is a program that has multiple NCAA violations, players arrests, illegal recruiting and benefits, etc.
The Iowa basketball program is bad, no doubt, but nowhere near a disgrace.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Word
People act like the worst thing the team can do is lose.
No no no.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
See; Dave Bliss and Baylor
by Pubes in Pink Urinals on Mar 15, 2010 12:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
See also:
Binghamton
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
So the Hawkeyes may not win or play an exciting brand of basketball but at least our players are not killing people or slinging coke.
That message should work well to increase ticket sales.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
"Iowa Basketball:
You Will Not Need A Bail Bondsman!"
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
In Waterloo...
we have a business right across from the Black Hawk County Jail. It’s sign is yellow, and the name of the business is:
HAWKEYE BAIL BONDS!
I shit you not.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
so as long as nobody gets killed
we’re good
by Will McDonald on Mar 15, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
fair enough....
Disgrace is not the right word…disappointing I guess is what I was trying to get at.
You will never move forward by looking back....
by By Santo's Grace on Mar 15, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I for one
was hoping Lick got another year because I do think he could turn it around. But, I will admit that it was quite disconcerting to see the ocean of empty seats every home game. Good luck to Lick, and especially this team, going forward.
Save your flames. What I have just posted (or you are about to post in response) will not change the outcome.
I'm right there with you
I was one of the few who supported Lick and thought he was getting things turned around, and was looking forward to the next couple years to see what he could do.
Oh well I guess – such is life – and more importantly, such is business
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
They did have pretty good attendance when they played Ohio State at CHA
That night was more like a lake of empty seats than an ocean of them. But we all know that was because of free student tickets and the Orange Bowl bonanza that they put together before and during the game.
Don't forget Mark Titus dude LOL
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point
Maybe they could have worked in a few other bowl victories in there to boost attendance. 2003 Outback Bowl. 2005 Capital One Bowl. 2009 Outback Bowl. You get the idea…
by CapitalHawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
So when is Phil Jackson flying into IC?
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions
Ladies and Gentlemen
Good luck.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
Who do you see as possible replacements?
Steve Lavin, Rick Majerus, Keno Davis, Tim Floyd?
Anyone else that may really make a splash?
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions
I'm expecting a youngish guy who has been part of building something somewhere public.
But i would not rule out Bruce Pearl or an NBA guy. PJ Carlisimo….no. But someone who spent some time at the college level then went to the pro level. Someone who looks big. Lickliter just never looked big. That Butler list of NBA players was shocking…three guys in the history of that school have played NBA. Three! Lickliter has never been around NBA talent it appears. That is not good.
My hail mary is Chris Collins.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Bruce Pearl?
he declined to be interviewed by Iowa last time, saying he was flattered for the offer, but was happy in Tennessee. Would he really want to leave a top 20 program to try and rebuild the Hawks? I know a lot of coaches like the idea of a challenge, but I don’t really think Pearl would want to leave what he already has. I would love to see him back in Iowa City, but I just don’t see it happening.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Thing about Pearl is
He would walk into Iowa City as a god. Right now he is the second highest profile basketball coach at Tennessee. That may be appealing to him.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess it depends on what motivates him
would he rather be the second highest profile coach at a school where he sells out every game with a top 20 team, or would he rather be “the man” at a school that is on a three-year losing streak and has trouble selling half of the tickets?
It all depends on what is in his head – but I don’t see him on the sidelines in Iowa City.
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He'd still be the lowest men's coach here
until he proved he could win. Who ever comes in needs to realize that KF and Brands are on the top of the heap. He can join them, but only if he wins.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 15, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Like he would ever be the top of the heap at TN?
Doesn’t matter who the football coach is, football at TN is king and always will be.
The TN Men's B-Bal team was bad when he got there.
He turned them around quickly and got them to where they sell out every game now. He could fill CHA quickly with his style of play and some W’s.
But I haven't seen anybody explain...
…why Pearl would WANT TO leave Tennessee for Iowa. I know, you and I know Iowa is the tits and Tennessee is hairy dog balls, but we’re biased a bit.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
he didn’t even want to be interviewed by Iowa last time, so why would that change now – he’s not coming…
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that Pearl to Iowa arguments are strictly based in sentimental emotion and not incentives for Pearl to leave a program that he has built up in SEC.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
While I don't really expect us to get Pearl...
I think there are three things that have changed in these last three years:
a) Iowa arguably has a better, and definitely younger nucleus now.
b) Calipari just moved in next door at Kentucky. Yes, Cal was at Memphis before, but Pearl only had to deal with Memphis once per year. Now, he has to deal with Cal up to three times per year, and probably look up at him in the standings. You also have Darin Horn bringing South Carolina to life, and Ole Miss and Miss State may be on swings back to respectability. Finally, you have new coaches at Georgia and Alabama, so they will be ready to “jump up and bite” Tennessee in the ass any night they don’t give full effort.
c) This may be the biggest reason: Pearl saw what happened to Phil Fulmer. The guy had a national title in his pocket, and the university still ran him one year after they made it to the conference title game. And they did that to a former Tennessee player and a good ol’ boy (Fulmer). Imagine how quickly they might pull the trigger on a Jew from Boston.
(Note: this previous comment is not meant to be anti-semitic. It is merely meant as a way of saying all Tennesseans are anti-semitic. That is all.)
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Not gonna happen
We shouldn’t even talk about this sort of pipe dream. He’s kicking relative ass and enjoying himself at a top 20 program in an easier bball conference (outside of dealing with UK). There’s zero reason for him to even consider our phone call.
Let us dream man, let us dream!!!
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Again,
see: Shaka Smart, VCU
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm holding out for this guy.
Imagine a coach that doesn’t need the weirding module. Ed Hightower is SCREWED.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Is that a Stargate reference?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
THE SPIIIIIIICE!!!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The Emperor will come to us
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I will NOT
let my water mingle with that of a cat.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Water!
Dr. Kynes: Bless the maker and his water, bless the coming and going of him, may his passing cleanse the world.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoever Iowa hires
had better have a baddass gom jabbar.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
x 1000
Paul: Don’t try your powers on me, witch! Try looking into that place where you dare not look. You’ll find me there, staring back at you!
Reverend Mother Mohiam: Silence him, Jessica!
Lady Jessica: [like a robot] Silence him yourself, if you can.
Paul: For ninety generations, you and your Bene Gesserit have labored in secret to produce a living, breathing weapon… a weapon that would enable you to overthrow both the Guild and the Emperor. Indeed. This weapon, I am; and these goals, I have achieved. But I’ll never be yours.
Reverend Mother Mohiam: [using the Voice] You mustn’t speak of…
Paul: [also using the Voice, which overpowers her] Silence! I remember your Gom Jabbar, now you remember mine. I can kill with a word.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Just my opinions, but:
Lavin – Maybe
Majerus – No (Can’t win @ St Louis)
Keno -Maybe (Down year at Providence this year and short track record as head coach against him)
Floyd – No (I don’t think he’s been in the coaching wilderness long enough after the USC sanctions)
I would love to see Bruce Pearl. The man can sell a program, he knows how to attract students and the media. He can win quickly if given the chance. Also, the chance to watch Illini heads explode on a regular basis would make it worthwhile. Can you imagine his first trip to Shampoo-Banana?
Why would Pearl ever leave UT to come here?
Didn’t we already go through this last time? It’s not happening.
I've seen some people say he was having trouble at Tenn
…the Tyler Smith or something. That might not be true. We’ll see.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I would think for a probably mil+ per year we can get someone decent
Just no more hires with DIRECT Indiana ties. That’s been a disaster for us.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
RUMOR-
Barta hires co-head coaches: Brad Stevens and Damon Bailey.
Is that Indiana enough for you?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Evan Bayh is not seeking reelection to congress.
Just sayin…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
When Iowa loses in the first round of the tournament to Murray State, Gus Johnson can use the pun yell “With the long SHOT! IT’S PUUUUUUUUUUURE! MURRAY STATE! MURRAY STATE SAYS BAYH BAYH IOWA!”?
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell me
you have the Austin Peay announcer’s phrases memorized, too.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
With all due respect to Dr. Tom...
Keno’s a big boy now.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
As a guy in Big East country
Keno has not taken Providence by storm…and if you have ever been to Providence you will understand why everyone except Ernie Di has bolted at the first opportunity presented. I think Keno would not be on Barta’s list…but he would take the Iowa job in an Iowa minute I would think. He has no chance in that Big East…
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Way longer.
Like watching corn grow.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott Drew at Baylor?
He’s done a pretty amazing job after inheiriting the Dave Bliss mess.
by telepathetic on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott Drew is a BUTLER GRAD!!!!!
Yikes.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I realize you guys are having some fun...
But this aversion to all things Butler and Indiana is pretty handwanky.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Oh yeah?
Well I think Butler and Indiana are pretty handwanky!!!
And,
your mom goes to (an Indiana) college!
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe....
maybe. There is certainly some cultural issues that can be identified here. Hell, they make movies about “Hoosier baskebtall.” But, yes, all in good fun.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Did you see the link I posted yesterday
listing all the Butler players to have ever gone on to the next level? 3. 3 players. 3 players ever. I don’t know that it’s that handwanky
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
So?
Thad Matta coached at Butler. He’s coaching his second overall #1 pick right now.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
He was head coach at Butler
for a year. Plus, he’s from Hoopeston, IL. HOOPESTON! He was born to be in basketball!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I was born to be a Hollywood A lister too
But like Lick, the bastards just never gave me a fair shake.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the list will be something like this
Stallings – Vandy – Nearly got the job 3 years ago, might be ready for a move, and probably the best guy to bring in. Also, probably the only guy that they would get from another power conference
Jankovich – Illinois St – Good coach, good resume
Lowery – Southern IL – Was on the list 3 years ago also. Signed a big extension at SIU instead of interviewing at Iowa
Lavin – Maybe. You never know
Eustachy – Say what you will, he’s a pretty good coach and might be looking to get back to the big time.
Bo Ryan – but only if they pay him like $9 million a year.
Top assistants from an Elite Program – Duke, Wisconsin, Michigan St… etc.
That’s what I’d expect to hear in a list of candidates.
by Buddy Light on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh,
I meant to put Keno on there. I’m sure he’s going to be interviewed. Sorry, just thought I had him on there.
by Buddy Light on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Seconded
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of these are just silly...
…since Jankovich has accomplished jack squat at IlSU and there are a lot of SIU fans who want Lowery fired. Stallings would be okay, but what makes you think that anyone at a SEC school would come to Iowa?
Yeah...
that list is a bit Illinois-centric.
Bo Ryan wouldn’t leave.
Can we even get a top-flight assistant like Collins?
Something tells me this hire will be Keno, or Ben Jacobson, or Dana Altman. If it isn’t one of those, it will probably be a big disappointment to about 40% of Hawkeye fans.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I would be very upset if it
were Dana Altman or Ben Jacobson. Altman failed misrerably at his last BCS school stop (Kansas State) and I had family there then…they fucking depised the guy with an Alfordian rage. He is best suited to the state he was raised and has seen success…it is not a surprise that (univ. of ) Nebraska has passed him over, repeatedly. Nebraska.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Altman...
made two NITs and an NCAA at KSU in four years. That is decent to very good for that situation (and for Iowa now).
Are you sure Nebraska has passed him over, or is he smart enough not to go to a football school where they have never done anything in basketball? They have made it to 6 NCAA tourneys ever, and have won one (Big 8?) conference tourney in 1994. The last time they won a reg-season conference title was 1950.
If I had built something Altman had at Creighton, I would not bolt for NU either.
That being said, Altman is not near the top of my list for the Iowa job. I don’t like how he jumped from Creighton to Ark and back, and now it appears that his own players don’t do what he wants.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Altman's luster
has worn off a bit. Creighton has been passed by UNI as the biggest threat to the big boys from the MVC.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Altman and Lickliter could be
the same guy…although Altman has at least coached a player who became a successful professional athlete.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
I've never understood the Altman Man Crush, personally
Outside the interior of the country and some guys on ESPN, does anyone really know (or care) who he is? As I think you said earlier, if Altman was a Basketball Jesus, the Huskers would have dragged him to the dark side long ago.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we'll hire someone with a solid resume
Not necessarily what may be on a lot of radar screens right now. I think a top and respected assistant who has a rep as a good recruiter, plays uptempo, and has shown a willingness to work with the HC to adjust the system they use to the talent available.
Chances are, someone like that is going to be a person that has good rapport with the players and likely won’t act like a dick in pressers either.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
If anyone doubted the content of the pending news conference
ESPN is reporting that Lick will not be in attendance:
Spokesman Matt Weitzel says coach Todd Lickliter will not be there
They never are...
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
If anybody thought that Lick was going to get a vote of confidence
they would probably expect him to be there. No coach=no vote of confidence
Lick might have a cold, though
Wouldn’t want to infect innocent bystanders.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, assuming the firing rumor is correct
We won’t have to worry about Lick continuing to be a gift that keeps on giving to Iowa basketball.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He could also
be at home furiously planning for next season.
We shouldn’t jump to conclusions here.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
I am surprised to see...
that ESPN is showing any form of attention at all. I haven’t seen jack squat yet on SportsCenter or the ticker. And I just saw John Buccigross dancing with Chris McKendry, so…
God, I hate ESPN.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, gang
Went to see ‘Wonderland’ in 3D last night. Good movie. Don’t go if you have a hallucinogenic drug habit. Seriously.
Anyway, I had a dream last night that the Iowa basketball team was mired in a decade of mediocrity. They fired a beloved coach, hired a backstabbing a-hole, let that guy leave in the middle of the night, then replaced him with a guy who…who…I can’t think of a significant thing about him other than that he lost a lot.
Please tell me it was a dream.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 15, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
Next time, take some Lunestra
You’ll have that nice dreamless sleep that chases away nightmares with bad men, OK?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Go back to sleep
that dream isn’t over yet. Then report the results…please.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You said "let that guy leave in the middle of the night"
Clearly you meant “shepherded him out of town under pretense of sorrow”
In a dream, details are always fuzzy.
But I did dream that the a-hole’s new team loses to Montana in a few days. Down one, last shot, a-hole calls a timeout, players come out looking confused and some poor kid flubs the inbounds. A-hole blames him.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 15, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope...
those were not a dream, but real events. That was God’s way of punishing you for seeing Wonderland and giving money to Lucifer himself: Tim Burton.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...
and that movie looks atrociously bad. Am I correct?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually liked it.
It is classic Burton style though, so if you don’t like the wacky sets and colors, count yourself out.
by EnergizerHawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Not bad at all.
Tim Burton’s weird, and being weird made him perfect for this movie. It’s the same reason he did well with the Wonka remake.
by The Mexican't on Mar 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I liked the Wonka remake better than the original
Especially the scene with the squirrels.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Usually I just drink Jager to make the voices go away.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
What happens when the voices *don't* stop?
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
funny, Jager usually makes the voices start in my head
and mostly they say “go puke!”
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What about B.J. Armstrong?
Great Iowa player, successful NBA player, championship rings, would likely be a good recruiter, and would make alums and fans happy.
Side note – he also still acts like he’s 20 – fun guy to talk to
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:24 PM CDT reply actions
Because he's too smart to coach...
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
can he coach?
I’m not being a jackass, I simply have no idea.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That would seem to be kind of a requirement to take the Iowa HC position
That you’d coached something of significance before… the coaching ranks of full (and later emptied) of great players who turn out to be coaching flops.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
As well as GM's... look at MJ
He’s not exactly been a screaming success as a basketball team owner or manager.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That's because Jordan would rather gamble and play golf (often both simultaneously) than actually run the team
by Yinka Double Dare on Mar 15, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that could kind of be a problem
And since we don’t have gambling casinos or year round golf in Iowa City, I guess he’s out. Oh well.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Riverside Casino
is not that far from Iowa City – 20 minutes from Carver
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That still leaves the issue of year round golf tho.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Riverside can cover the sort of bets...
that MJ makes on a twice-per-day basis.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No...never has
he’s an exec now.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe BJ is an agent these days.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
Sounds good.
Let’s hire BJ and someone who can actually coach. That way, we can have an in-house agent helping our players toward the big money NBA.
We call it the “Deion Sanders” plan.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Barta needs someone with a little more sideline experience than that.
Armstrong would be a nice choice as an assistant, of course, but it’s time to think a little more inside the box.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 15, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we bring back Judd Heathcote? Is he still alive?
I loved watching him throw his coat. That could be pretty exciting.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I would love to see him as an assisant
and after thinking about it for a few seconds, realized that he would probably be much better in that role than as a head coach, at least initially.
I think he would be great to have on the bench as an opportunity for players and recruits to learn from a guy who has actually won an NBA championship, and he could make for a great coaching staff with whoever we hire to replace Lick
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
As an agent
Wouldn’t that be a huge pay cut?
Kevin Gamble's a head coach
at Illinois-Springfield. Sounds like he has done pretty well but I’m sure they want someone with a track record beyond NAIA-level.
by Brock Sampson on Mar 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn’t help that he lost the best player he had in his tenure through no fault of his own. Obviously there have been problems, but the team looks pretty different if Jake Kelly were around (and of course, presuming he didn’t blow his knee anyways had he stayed).
It doesn’t look great that his 30-ish year old assistant at Butler took over and immediately upgraded the recruiting and the quality of play though either. There is way more talent on that Butler team now than Lickliter ever had there and although Howard, who is probably the highest-rated guy they’ve had by the recruiting services, committed while Lickliter was still the coach, the others (Hayward and Mack especially) are all Stevens guys.
by Yinka Double Dare on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
That's it. I'm on the Brad Stevens bandwagon. You sold me!
Seriously though, can you imagine the shit storm that would follow that press conference?
I got a funny feeling that this guy will be in the mix
http://www.byucougars.com/StaffProfile.jsp?ID=115
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
He's been mostly west coast but
he has the kind of credentials we will likely see in our next coach. Very experienced assistant who can recruit and run an offense. And, honestly, if he coached at BYU you know he will be clean…even with that UNLV stint on his record.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree with you
He looks like the kind of guy we’d go after.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure, he may seem like the type of person we may go after
but has he ever given any indication whatsoever that the feeling may be mutual?
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure how you indicate that
Does he have a twitter or facebook account where he lists schools that he would consider as potential head coaching destinations? Does he have to like pork and readily available booze?
Unless he has no aspirations whatsoever for being a head coach
he’s in the mix. Everyone is. This is a Big Ten basketball program and I would say we can do $1 mil to $1.5 mil easy. This job is a great job. Don’t kid yourself. This isn’t Drake.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't get the "Iowa is a sh*t job mentality".
Yes, Iowa City is cold. Yes, its 4 hours from a “major metro area”. So?
On 1+ million per year its a damn nice place to live… and if you win, you are a a God Amongst The People.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I would love to live in IC
it isn’t Ames…the place is nice. And I got news for people…in NJ we just dug out from 3 1/2 feet of snow and then got 6 inches of rain. If weather meant anything in a baskebtall hire San Diego State would have 10 National Championships, followed by Northern Arizona.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You live in Jersey? Oh man, I feel for you.
Anytime you feel like you’re going batshit crazy… hop SW and come crash a couple of days at my crib here in Sacramento. Totally serious. Sac has its issues but lack of sunshine isn’t one. We have snow here – on the Sierras, and they look really pretty with snow on ‘em when I’m jogging in shorts and a tshirt, like I was yesterday.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Or feel free
to come to Chandler, AZ. Sure, the summers are hot as hell, but right now, it’s 65-70 degrees, and I spent yesterday sitting in the sun watching spring training baseball
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice!
I’m about to walk to the bank in a few minutes and deposit child support (its the 15th, ugh) but it will be a nice walk over there. :)
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no complaints
plus it’s only an hour and a half drive to Tucson for the Iowa/AZ game this season….
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well it's been 60ish and sunny in IC this weekend
Supposed to be even warmer today. Doubly sunny in IC today I guess. And it’s spring break so you can navigate downtown and find parking.
Warm weather makes you soft.
Ask Georgia Tech.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been waiting for you to show up
How are you today sir?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Fine, thank you.
It’s 50 degrees, the trees are bare, but the birds are singing. There was still snow here a few days ago.
It’s glorious.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Many of our trees still are leafless as well...
We just don’t get much < freezing weather in Sacramento… but we have a lot of upper 40-low 50 rainy days in winter.
It doesn’t go below 40 at night very much.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That's just wrong.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It may well be
But I must admit sitting outside having breakfast on a sunny cafe porch on a Saturday or Sunday morning – in Feb or March – in shorts and an Iowa hoodie rocks.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of life's little luxuries
that we get with our warmer weather – amen Leftcoast
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus, I've got a damn hot GF
Some of these Cali girls… man :)
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice work
but I got myself a hot Iowa girl. At least she can put down her booze and go apeshit crazy whenever Iowa scores a TD
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Mine went to Sac State
But has been amazingly supportive of my Iowa obsession. She’ll even watch the games with me… she likes football :)
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Mine's A Steelers fan
so I tell her to just pretend they goofed up the logo on the helmets. She’s coming around though. Still won’t let me paint a tigerhawk on the living room wall. Yet.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
You'll love this story... I was wearing my # 12 home jersey last fall at a 5K here in Sacramento...
And someone yelled “go Steelers!”
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a #5 Iowa jersey
that I bought my sophmore year at Iowa and have subsequently worn for every Iowa game since. During the Orange Bowl, I had a woman (very attractive, I may add) tap me on the shoulder at the Iowa alum bar in Mesa and ask me if I used to be a quarterback at Iowa
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That's when its inconvenient to have a GF/finance/etc.
LOL
Good for you. No one is going to mistake a 5’5" 155# guy in a #12 jersey as an Iowa QB. Even though I still am pretty cool otherwise. :)
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Mine Did
I live in Phoenix also, with my girlfriend who went to Iowa also. We made our office a Hawkeye room. Pictures here.
'They are who we thought they were!'
Mine Did
I live in Phoenix also, with my girlfriend who went to Iowa also. We made our office a Hawkeye room. Pictures here.
'They are who we thought they were!'
Very nice!
Thanks for sharing. I’m planning on buying a home here in Sacramento in the next year, and doing the same thing…
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
You probably don't get frost in May.
Just ridiculous.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
We got frost 2x this winter.
And it was gone within a half hour of sunrise.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
BSD Mike lives in Houston and likes to share stories from "snowstorms" there.
He says drivers start slipping when a half of an inch of snow falls. He also said he found his neighbor putting mulch on his driveway for “traction”.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
MULCH? That's hilarious
Seriously, we have so many microclimes here its ridiculous… but Cali is the size of many foreign countries too.
I actually have tire chains in my trunk… even in the middle of summer, you can have a freak storm up in the Sierras that will require chains. Can you say “Donner Party?”
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
there was a story here in VA
on the local news telling everyone not to put ice melt on their lawns as it will kill the grass. It apparently has been done several times before.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 15, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
This does not surprise me.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
And that is Pennsylvania grammar.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I've never seen a PA grandma
But there’s always a first time!
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't completely adjusted to the heat yet
I spent the first 23 years of my life in Iowa, and only the past 1.7 years in AZ. I’m one of the few that still think 55 degrees in January is quite warm and wear shorts and a t-shirt instead of a down parka, hat, gloves, and scarf
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
I make fun of my fiancee for putting on a sweatshirt when we make the 3 block walk to the local brewery when it’s 60 degrees out
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i did that at at 35 - 40 degrees this winter
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
Too many distractions in a place like San Diego
Who wants to be stuck in a gym shooting FTs when you can be on a beach ogling hotties?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Not everybody
likes the major metro areas anyway. I’ve regretted ever leaving IC many times. I almost moved back once. The only thing Chicagoland has going for it is better job opprotunities.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Of course the Iowa job is a great job
and that’s not what I meant. I was merely saying that it seems everything he has done is on the west coast, so I wasn’t sure if he had any desire to come to the midwest – money or not
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Check out Lute before Iowa
Raveling before Iowa. Big Ten basketball program….16K arena….$1.5 million a year.
There are probably no more than about 20-30 guys we cannot get. That’s it.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
it’s been a weird morning – just thinking aloud
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So you don't think Coach K would tell Duke to stuff it then? Damn.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
As a native Iowa than lives in Kalifornia, and has been gone since '87
I make about 100K a year, and in the Central Valley in Sacramento that’s not a bad middle class salary. If I could make that kind of money in DSM or IC I’d probably still be somewhat hesitant to go home… the weather is so brutal and after you’ve lived in the West and decent sized metros for a while, there are a lot of things Iowa can’t offer those areas can.
Yes, our housing prices are still high in comparison, but – they’ve come down a lot – and you can’t write off heating costs like you can mortgage interest.
That said, if I could get another 50K a year, I’d move home. That’s vacation escape money during the winter.
So, do the math… if you’re making 200K as an assistant in the West and someone waves 1 mill per + bonuses for good behavior and Ws in front of you, you’d be packing the minivan.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like a West Coast guy though...
And while its not balmy in the Wasatch Valley, I’m not sure you’re going to convince him to come to the freezer where you can buy coffee 7 days a week and BEER!
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
He probably makes $200K if he's lucky
and has to buy liquor in tiny bottles at a restaurant…he’ll love IC.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Take him to Dirty John's when he comes in for the interview
Screw a separate practice facility. Being able to buy vintage 12 packs of Black Label < $5.00 – this is the place for you baby.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
After Utah
the world looks like an open bar.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I have been to SLC
Fortunately, I left in another plane about an hour later.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
SLC is awesome
if your bedtime is 7PM.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
If we're taking someone off 1989-90 UNLV, I would prefer it be Grandmama.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Mar 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
REACT JUICE BABY
Nothing screams advanced footwear like mysterious goo oozing out of your shoe. I think it was the same material that is at the core of Happy Fun Ball.
by Yinka Double Dare on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn, You take one little 3 hour nap on a Monday
And this is what you miss. Oh, and woohoo?
What about Scott Drew?
He’s a midwest guy and turned around one of the only D-I programs in worse shape than Iowa’s currently in… he did graduate from Butler though, so that might scare the search committee a bit.
No more Hoosiers....no fucking more.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a drama queen too
he would be like jeans in a linen closet at Iowa. No more Hoosiers.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree to a degree...
but he’s recruited a nice stable of athletes to play at Baylor, so I’m thinking he could get some ballers to Iowa City.. plus he’s spent seven years in the Dallas/Waco area, so I think the stink of the Hoosier State might be off him by now.
by Boschee4three on Mar 15, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
At some point you do the calculus…
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Davis is
an above average recruiter but a TERRIBLE X’s and O’s coach. Those Indiana teams – with great talent – were horribly coached. The Final Four / championship game team was a) mostly players who had been coached by Knight for several years and b) x’s and o’s were done by the top assistant, not Davis
This has got to be some sort of record
for posts about a story that hasn’t even happened yet…
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions
And this is somehow different than many other threads on BHGP? :)
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
We could talk about how we'll get in next with 96 teams and a new coach
16 can be the new magic bubble #er!
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's pent up frustration.
After all the rumors last week, this board has been waiting for an explosion like this. Also, the story is a foregone conclusion now. It’s not like we’re being fueled solely by rumor and speculation.
it's BHGP
any and all conversation tangents count
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
All that talk about Arizona weather...
…and not one reference to THE GADSDEN PURCHASE?
Have we taught you ingrates nothing?!
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Do you really think we're *that* bright?
Because if we were, we’d have better blogs that this one up! ;)
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
The Gadsen Purchase
only covered the southernmost part of Arizona, where no one lives anyway. Plus, they’ve already been eliminated from Marchifornication, so we’ve moved on
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 15, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hockeybear loves cold weather.
Thus, cold weather wins.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's a name nobody has mentioned
VCU coach, Shaka Smart. In addition to being A) young (read: exciting), B) well-spoken and by all accounts C) talented, he is also a Midwesterner (from Madison, WI) who built his coaching chops in Ohio before moving onto stints at Clemson and Florida. He’s got a real resume and looks to be the anti-Lickliter.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Oh, and his name is AWESOME!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
How important is it that somebody have an established head coaching resume?
I’m not sure exactly how i feel. What’s really important is how Barta et al feel. Are they going to try and hire an established name or take a chance on an assistant or somebody with a few years as a head coach?
Iowa doesn't need experience
as much as excitement. There’s absolutely ZERO buzz around this program right now, and that extends from the fans to the players. If you look at Smart’s resume, while it may lack significant head coaching, he’s been around good programs. Also, and this may seem superfluous, he got his degree from Kenyon i.e. his last name is apt.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Let’s see what happens. I’ve always been a fan of winning on the court and not necessarily winning the press conference. Lickliter is looking like a press conference win and not much else.
I think releasing 1000s of live venomous snakes during the game could generate some excitement
We could see if there are any potential diamonds in the rough in the stands hopping away from those suckers. Think “Snakes on a Plane” adapted to CHA. That could rule.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
skip to about 21:30 in the introductory press conference at the bottom of the link in my first post. THAT is the kind of play we are longing/looking for.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Shaka Smart looks intriguing and VCU has been a coaching stepping stone with Capel and Grant. I am still sold on UTEP’s Tony Barbee. I hope Barta’s former coworker experience with him at Wyoming is a plus.
http://utepathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/barbee_tony00.html
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
UTEP
is a hot commodity after this year. Trying to grab Barbee might bring with it some serious competition, and it would suck to lose that race and have another good selection taken before Iowa regroups. VCU is in the CBI, and therefore under the radar. The more I read about Smart the more I like him.
Don’t get me wrong, I would hardly complain if they landed Barbee, I just don’t know if those stars will align.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and Shaka Smart...
really sang well in the late 70s and early 80s.
“I’m Every Woman” is an awesome song.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Mar 15, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes because
his parents were surely thinking of Chaka Khan rather than Shaka of the Zulu.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 16, 2010 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Well shit we better never hire a well regarded coach ever again
They’re just like Lickliter!!!!
Barbee isn’t anything like him aside from having success at the mid-major level. He was a very successful assistant under Calipari and is a proven recruiter.
Lickliter not in attendance for the press conference?
Maybe he has a case of the Mondays?
I'm waiting for Norm Parker's interpretation of how the presser goes, BTW.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Is the press conference streaming online?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Is the press conference streaming online?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
http://gazetteonline.com/breaking-news/2010/03/15/live-video-barta-press-conference-on-hawkeye-basketball
by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Mar 15, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It's alright
I found it at KCRG.com and I double posted along the way so one fail begets another.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He's going to enter
like this.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't lots of sugary drink bad for blood pressure?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It will be a perfect illustration
of why he’s leaving.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone could've handled this better
But if you really want to point a finger at the originator of the entire mess, point it at the Stanford campus, because that’s the moron that started it all.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
YOU
could have handled this better.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
What?
That’s silly talk. Bowlsby was a fine AD, and now he’s long gone. Let it go.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Agreed
he made more good decisions than bad. Probably why the school that wins the Director’s Cup nearly every year wanted him as their AD.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
These things are never handled well
my wife said it best, guys want to believe you can breakup and still be friends. It’s a pipe dream. We’re basically telling Lickliter we don’t respect his ability. There is not too many ways to sugar coat that.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
I think I could deal with Not Being Friends for the payout he's getting being fired.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
you can buy a nice life in suburban Indianapolis with $2.4 million in your pocket.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Broad Ripple baby
Indianpolis’ Beaverdale. Pay 100Ks for a house with no closets but ah, the hardwood and glass doorknobs.
Speaking of which, I’m selling my parents house in Beaverdale. 3 1/2, built in 1941. Any takers?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I the only one
who has a hard time reconciling the concept of “nice life” with “suburban Indianapolis”?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll bet SMA would slip a chiv in someone's ribs if that got him out of NJ and into Indiananoplace
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Point taken
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll pass on Indiana...
but that is Todd’s home. He loveth the placeth.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
"I'll pass on Indiana"
should become the Kentucky Tourism Board’s new slogan.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys want to believe
that we can break up and still keep getting in her pants until our next steady comes along. Not sure how that applies to this situation though.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
I've managed to make that work a couple of times
Although its a lot easier to pull that one off when in your early 20s and drunk vs. almost 50 and drunk.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I still use that today and im in my mid 30's
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 15, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You must be dating girls who forget to wear their contacts then ;)
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
A man's got to what a man's got to do.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 15, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as you're not violating any dating age rules...
You know, 1/2 your age + 7.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
18
is the only rule. Not that I’ll ever have a chance at an 18 year ever again, but I don’t want to close any doors.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Well, I'm 48... and I briefly dated
A 29 year old in 2006. That was fun.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I keep my range in the constraints of the rule book.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That the formula
for fahrenheit to celsius too…or the other way around. I forget actually.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Are we really expecting ANYTHING out of the presser, other than...
“Todd sucked, we just fired him, any questions?”
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Iowa is a place to grow.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Umm guys, is this a possiblity?
by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Mar 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone esle watching the live feed of the press conference?
I love the casual nature of Iowa. Not a suit jacket in sight. And I saw only two ties…one was untied of course.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
What's the URL again, please?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Thank you very much.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 15, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Presser livethread rightchere:
http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2010/3/15/1374137/iowa-press-conference-open-thread
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
What's Barta's entrance music gonna be?
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
What a nice orderly group of mostly clean living looking young men.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
If Barta has an eye patch on...
we’ll know that Lickliter didn’t go down without a fight after all.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Or that he's bringing in Mike Leach
His offenses scored more points than Lick’s and probably passed the ball more.
Can you imagine
Cully Payne in an electrical closet? Yeah, me too.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of the first images from the PRESS CONFERENCE
Biizarre scene.
by Nomo Stanziballs on Mar 15, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions
JOKE FAIL
Curses. Trying to post a photoshopped gem.
by Nomo Stanziballs on Mar 15, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
player defections= termination for coach
I think the real nail in the coffin for TL was the seemingly yearly player defections rather than the overall win/loss record. Old Mother Hubbard has more in the Cupboard than the Hawkeye BB program!! Rebuilding is a process that the Hawkeye faithful would have been patient about had there been a glimmer of success for future seasons. But when EVERY year is a rebuilding year with no upperclassmen to guide the way things became perpetually bleak. Couple that with TL’s low key sort of bland personality and the whole program took on the look of mediocrity and failure. We need a coach with some fire in his belly and a plan to have measurable success each year.
lichleiter
Gary Barta says his legacy will not be about whom he hires…..I alweays thought that the AD’s success or failure was based in no small part on who it is that he or she hires to advance the programs……isn’t this the same guy who failed with Zelisky and Alford? Why is it that the university needs to hire a “search firm” when search is HIS job?
I don't know if
it’s the uber-Germanic spelling you gave to Lickliter, or the (inaccurate) assertion that Barta had anything to do with Alford, but I can’t really follow your post.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Barta didn't hire Zalesky or Alford.
Search firms are just part of the process now, for the most part. If nothing else, they give schools plausible deniability.
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