Finally, proof that ignorance is bliss!
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 11, 2010 8:15 AM CST
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PrintTim “Wunderkind” Tebow put his brain on display for the NFL talent investigators via the NFL version of the IQ test, the Wonderlic Test. It wasn’t pretty. Tebow scored a 22 out of 50. The test is timed and does require that one have some intelligence. It is intended to see how a player thinks under pressure. What remains unclear is how seriously it is used by teams to determine the draft value of a player. However, as the article in the link above points out, Tebow won awards for his achievements off the field as well.
Tebow graduated Florida with a 3.66 GPA as a Family, Youth and Community Services major, and he is a three-time member of the SEC Academic Honor Roll and a two-time First Team Academic All-American.
Draw whatever conclusions you like but keep in mind that Matt Leinart scored a 35 on the damn test.
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Family, Youth and Community Services? I’d make fun of that but am pretty sure many, many players major in “Eligibility”. Even though I ran cross-country and track in college, and majored in trying not to get kicked out of college, my dad still would have yanked me off the family assistance plan with that stupid ass major. No 3rd qb on the roster nfl dreams for me though.
If Florida also requires a
rigorous liberal arts component, then fine. Big question though.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Watching my daughter go through the college application process this year, I am confident U Florida’s admission standard is far lower than a 22 on the Wonderlic. Really, Tebow just presents a rich target which is only partially his fault. His choice of major is no better or worse than the great majority if div 1 guys with nfl plans – i.e. Leisure Studies. Whoops, Matt just posted something similar, but I’m going ahead anyway.
I think you're looking for "General Studies"
I’m trying to think of other majors that show up a lot…“Interdisciplinary Studies” comes to mind as well.
With that in mind, there is something to be said about the crazy schedule these guys keep and it's academic impact.
I would imagine Tebow’s major in particular lends itself to youth ministry of some kind.
If I was a kid he was ministering to...
…I’d be all like, “Hey, didn’t you used to be the best college football player ever. And didn’t you fail your way out of the NFL before you ever got there? Yeah, I’m gonna go sell some crack now, or find some other profession with a future.”
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 11, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, I forgot to drop a...
….“Loser” or “Crybaby” before walking away.
But good luck in your future ministry Mr. T. Bow.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 11, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
It would be interdepartmental studies at Iowa
Some other cake majors would be Leisure studies (yes, it exists), Communications studies (basically if your major includes the word “studies” you’re probably not working too hard to get good grades), and Psychology.
Iowa's Communication Studies program
has thre or four of the most famous media/communication studies professors in America and has a reputation as one of the best in the country. You may want to double check that one.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Remember when the entire ISU men's basketball team were sociology majors?
Brunettes not fighter jets
Or when Andy Katzenmoyer became eligible to play
by passing “AIDS: What Every College Student Should Know”…no, really, look it up.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 13, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Is it any worse than
psychology? or probably a dozen others (history, english) that unless you’re going to be a teacher, wtf are you doing other than wasting your time? Not really trying to knock those degrees but I knew plenty of people in those majors that had zero idea how it would apply to their life after college.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Were they Academic All-American?
…that’s my beef. At least pick a guy with something other than just a high GPA for that. Grade inflation is such now that a GPA should only be partly the measure. Northwestern has an Academic All-American who majored in Chemistry and was pre-med. Tebow needs another accolade like a hole in the head but these guys who are really studying their asses off in difficult programs deserve the Academic All-American distinction. But, whatever…this just shows me that this guy has been hyped to such a degree that in almost every aspect of his life, except his vertical leap and 40 time, and of course his goodness as a human, he cannot possibily measure up to it in reality.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 11, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
I guess I’d argue the Academic AA should have to be in real, not made up, majors. I looked through the list. Admittedly, I am predisposed against the jesus-child, but IMO his was the most egregious fake major of those named. I’m shocked the “committee” would be that shameless.
Dude....
this is college football. On the shameless scale they fall in between “politician” and “people who have slept with Lindsey Lohan”.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
The SEC
is the best conference to play the “Spot the Complete Bullshit Major” Game.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Jim Harrick remains my favorite sleazy SEC coach in any sport for just that sort of reason.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 12, 2010 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
Or A10,
or Pac 10, or WCC…the guy has left a trail of shady dealings and bald-faced lies everywhere he’s been. Calipari looks like Pete Carril next to him.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 13, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Atlantic 10: cradle of cheaters!
Calipari, Harrick, some few I’m forgetting…
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 13, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
But not John "I'll Kill You!" Chaney
That scene after the UMass/Temple game was priceless. Too bad he never followed through with his threat to Calipari.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 14, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
This is a second hand story I've read: once when PSU was in the A-10...
They were playing Calipari and UMass one night at the old rathole known as Rec Hall. In the final seconds (I believe the score was tied), one of UMass’s players went to the rim, was fouled, no call. PSU drove down the court in, went to the rim, got fouled, and UMass was called for a foul. PSU hit both free throws. Calipari charged the refs and one of his post players had to carry him out on his shoulders while police were blocking fans.
So, anyway, from what I’ve read, the A-10 was everthing I want from a basketball conference (great mid major programs (Temple, UMass, URI, WVU, GWU), sleazy coaches you could hate, and rivalries) and I wish I could have seen it.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, you're not
87 years old?
I, for one, thought Rec Hall was an awesome homecourt. Shitty building, but it represented everything I like about college sports.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 14, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
We have a few posters at BSD who were students then and most of them seem to think it was loud BECAUSE it was so terrible.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not so much the loudness
but the fact that the students were actually on the court. It was cramped, noisy and largely unfair for opposing teams to play there i.e. everything that’s great about home courts.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 15, 2010 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Bob Huggins should be in a close 2nd
Still don’t think he’s ever graduated a player, at least none that he recruited/brought into the school.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
There are some
who think Huggins is one of the few who actually “gets” college sports because he has no illusions that the kids are there for academics. Granted, those people’s names rhyme with Sownerd and Payless, so obviously it doesn’t matter.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 14, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
most Div 1 coaches can tell which kids are there just to make it into the pros. Just because they pay the standard lip service to their commitment to the academic progress of student athletes doesn’t mean they “don’t get it”.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
However
those types are usually limited to just a few players per squad. With Huggins, I don’t think he would care if a single player got his degree.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 14, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe Jared Clauss
was perfect or very near perfect on that test.
"You're going to go out there with a dick full of confidence. Then, you're going to go out there and shoot that confidence all over the stadium." -Blue Mountain State
ESS EEE CEE!!! is apparently how they spell it after all.
though it also bears mentioning that Texas scholar athlete Vince Young scored, I beleive, under 15.
All said, however, I’m not that much anti-Tebow. He didn’t create all the hype. To me the whole thing simply reinforces what athletes in some of the skill positions in Urban’s goofy offense have to go through to get to the NFL. Yeah, the Wonderlic may not be great. But he has so much else to adapt to on top of it, while overcoming the hype. I just hope the kid doesn’t crater like Young did, though Young appears to be on the way back.
I thought they gave you a 10 just for being able to sign your name
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 11, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
I never heard anyone claim
he could sign his name….
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
His name on the Wonderlic
was “X”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 11, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
No,
Nat.
"Do a flip!" - Bender B. Rodriguez
by Bucketochicken on Mar 12, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
As-Salamu 'Alaykum
“A man so black, they counted him four times in the ‘Million Man March’”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 13, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Which is amazing, since no one thought Akilli Smith's record 9 (IIRC) could be broken
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 11, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Other than the Davis brothers, you mean?
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 11, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I am not anti-Tebow either but more WTF?!? to the people handing out grades/awards to him for his academics. No one would call a press conference after receiving an Academic All-American award to announce that he/she was going to decline it because they simply were not that smart so I can’t fault Tebow for accepting it. This has to piss the rest of the Academic All-American’s off that they were selected for an award that the “Tebow is god” faction devalued so much.
An interview for Med School admission:
Interviewer: “I see you were a Division-I college football player”
Applicant: “Yes I was”
I: “and you were an academic all-American.”
A: “yes I was, and I am quite proud of my effort to balance the athletics and academics – it wasn’t easy.”
I “Wasn’t Tim Tebow also an academic all-American? And didn’t they prove his intelligence is below average by NFL football player standards?”
A: “That guy is such a dick.”
I: “Thank you for coming in, we will send you our decision soon.”
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 11, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think this is much of an issue, honestly.
After all, any test where Matt Leinart shines isn’t a serious evaluator of intellectual heft.
The main thing about the Wonderlic is that it’s timed, and the time plays a major factor. It’s a series of tricky problem-solving questions, the type you see in “brain busters!” books or whatever. There’s nothing in it, however, that would indicate a deep ignorance on Tebow’s part, or his unworthiness of academic merits in higher education, or his ability to play quarterback.
It is, essentially, a test of very limited worth (and one I happen to do very well at, so it’s not in my best interest to question its merit), and hardly the basis on which to question Tebow’s worth as an athlete or scholar.
We can do so much better than this, guys. He doesn’t believe in premarital sex. Isn’t that all the indication that we need that he’s not one of us?
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
No! Making fun of Tebow's embarrassment of riches
is what this blog is all about. It speaks to the larger question of subjectivity in evaluation and hype, something that rules many corners of the college football. And, now we have definitive proof that you are a genius and he is stupid. It all makes perfect sense!
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 11, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
insert smart aleck icon
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Premarital Sex?
I was gonna go with “he didn’t choose to play for Iowa”. But whatever works for you, Benedict.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
by Flakbait on Mar 11, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 11, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Our QB hangs out with sick kids in hospitals.
In a character fight, I’ll take that any day.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 11, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Actually
Not getting laid is something Tebow and I have in common. Unfortunately, my situation isn’t by choice.
/crippling loneliness
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Ever thought about buying a Russian bride?
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
The Ukranian ones
are much, much better
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Mar 12, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
He must be a pod then, right?
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Mar 12, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
I don't believe any of those other QBs were Academic All-American
maybe Smith…but i doubt it.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
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