CREEPYPALOOZA 2010: The Linemen
Sure, caring is creepy. That's why we generally leave it to the Rivals guys. But once their signature goes on the dotted line of an Iowa letter of intent, caring ceases to be creepy and becomes essential. So, without further ado, your objects of affection and/or scorn (sometimes both at the same time) for the next four or five years. Next, the BEEFCAKE linemen:
Andrew Donnal (6'7", 285)
Offensive Line
Anthony Wayne (Whitehouse, Ohio)
4* Rivals, 4* Scout, 79 ESPN
According to the recruitniks, Donnal is one of the main gems of Iowa's class, a universal 4* recruit and, along with The Polish Hat and Derby, one of Iowa's representatives at last month's US Army All-American Game. Donnal played offensive and defensive line in high school, but projects better as an offensive lineman in college. Rivals seems to think he could be a left tackle and a three-year contributor, so perhaps he turns up as a guard in a few years and then takes over the LT spot from Reiff. He apparently does need to work on his strength and technique, so a redshirt year is probably in order; he's not hyped as an instant impact guy like Dace or Bulaga.
Fun Fact: Donnal has actually never been to the White House and, truth be told, prefers Buckingham Palace because he's a bit of a royalist.
Brandon Scherff (6'6", 295)
Offensive Line
Denison High School (Denison, IA)
3* Rivals, 3* Scout, 76 ESPN
According to ESPN, Scherff started at defensive end and tight end in high school; we, um, would not have wanted to be the poor bastards tasked with trying to tackle him if he caught a pass. His fake 40 time is only 5.0, so he wasn't burning by anyone, but he probably had a good head of steam once he got going -- 295 lbs. (or 280 if you prefer ESPN's measurements) is a lotta beef. Still, Scherff is slated for offensive line in high school, despite not actually doing much any pass blocking in high school. He's apparently a pretty good run blocker, but the lack of pass-blocking experience makes him a lock to redshirt. ESPN projects him as a tackle too, and the beef he already possesses as an incoming freshman seems to back that up; whether or not he can master the technique necessary to become a tackle is just something we'll have to wait and see on.
Fun Fact: Scherff is Denisese for "rampaging water buffalo" and if you don't believe Denison has its own language, well, you've clearly never been there.
Carl Davis (6'5", 300)
Defensive Tackle
Adlai Stevenson (Sterling Heights, MI)
3* Rivals, 3* Scout, 75 ESPN
Davis represents a truly rare thing among Iowa players: a defensive tackle with some serious bulk. Iowa's penchant for transforming linebackers or half-a-step-slow defensive ends into defensive tackles is well known; that's not a slight, either, as defensive tackle prospects with elite agility/skill and massive size are about as plentiful as unicorns. Lots of programs wind up having to add bulk to guys to turn them into defensive tackles. Davis isn't gonna need any more bulk, though -- he's just gonna need to get in shape (there's "high school 300 lbs." and there's "Doyle-approved 300 lbs.") and work on his technique. In high school, he was able to get by with just using his raw power to bulldoze through dudes, but that's not gonna fly in the Big Ten unless he has the strength of Mark "Sexual Chocolate" Henry.
Fun Fact: Despite the name of his school, Davis actually prefers the earthiness of Alf Landon to the snobby intellectualism of Adlai Stevenson when it comes to presidential candidates who got bitchmade in elections.
Defensive Tackle
Martin (Arlington, TX)
3* Rivals, 3* Scout, 76 ESPN
IN YOUR FACE, WESTERN KENTUCKY! SUCK ON IT, BIG RED. OK, so Johnson also chose Iowa over offers from Iowa State, Kansas State, Nebraska, Purdue, and TCU, if you want to be pedantic about it, but anytime you can crow about beating the Hilltoppers for a prospect, you gotta do it. Ahem. If Davis represents one end of the defensive tackle spectrum, Johnson represents the other end, although he's also the sort of DT prospect Iowa fans have grown accustomed to seeing. 245 lbs. is obviously a bit light for DT and since Johnson also doesn't seem to have Mitch King-level quicks, he's definitely gonna need to spend a whole bunch of time with Cap'n Doyle before he sees the field. Pencil him in for a redshirt next year and don't plan to see him on the field until probably 2012 at the earliest.
Fun Fact: Johnson will not answer to "Crockett" and will punch you in the goddamn face if you call him "Tubbs."
Anthony Ferguson (6'2", 280)
Defensive Tackle
Gilman School (Baltimore, MD)
3* Rivals, 3* Scout, 77 ESPN
Ferguson's the third of Iowa's Maryland trio of recruits (along with Marcus Coker and Jim Poggi), as well as being Poggi's high school teammate. He also played in something called the motherfucking Crab Bowl, which just sounds fantastic. Anyone good enough for a crustacean-themed all-star competition is clearly good enough for us. Like most defensive tackle prospects, Ferguson (please do not refer to him as Fergie, as you will get that "I Gotta Feeling" song stuck in our head and we will be forced to hurt you and OH GOD WHY WON'T IT STOP BEING A GOOD GOOD NIGHT) needs to add bulk and refine his technique. But defensive tackle looks wiiide open after Ballard and King Klug depart next season, so he could be right in the thick of things in 2011.
Fun Fact: Ferguson still thinks it was like a total fucking rip-job that THE WIRE never won a goddamn Emmy, so don't bring that up unless you want him to go all Stringer Bell on yo ass.
Louis Trinca-Pasat (6'3", 235)
Defensive End
Lane (Chicago, IL)
3* Rivals, 3* Scout, 76 ESPN
If Kevonte Martin-Manley is unable to satisfy our craving for hyphenated names and three-letter nicknames once DJK is no longer a part of our lives (sob), at least we have a spare in LTP here. Sadly, we will have to wean ourselves from the knee-jerk reaction to exclaim "LTP is fucking retarded" upon seeing or hearing the phrase "LTP." At least now we can safely state that not all things named "LTP" from Chicago are fucking douchebags. Anyway. LTP played outside linebacker in high school, but projects as a defensive end at Iowa, between his limitations (not the quickest reactions in space, apparently) and the glut of true LB recruits we also picked up this year. His fake 40 time is 4.7, which is not too shabby; ESPN says he has "above-average acceleration and top-end speed," too, which sounds promising. There's obviously going to be a gaping hole at DE after Clayborn departs (weep) and it would be incredibly unfair (and probably wildly untrue) to peg LTP as his replacement. But he seems to have some pretty good physical gifts and if he's half as good as the last Chicago-area prep to move from OLB to DE (Matt Roth), well, we'll be pretty damn pleased.
Fun Fact: LTP prefers King Louis XVI, but thinks Louis XIV gets a bum rap and is pretty sure Louis, le grand Dauphin is something he saw at Sea World last summer.
Mike Hardy (6'5", 260)
Defensive End
Kimberly (Appleton, WI)
3* Rivals, 3* Scout, 76 ESPN
Hardy represents that rare recruiting victory for Iowa in Wisconsin; per Rivals, he was the third-best recruit among the Sconnies this year and guys like that rarely escape the Badgers' clutches. Perhaps Bielema's fingers were finally too greasy from his cheese curd-exclusive diet. Hardy, who we have been able to confirm does not include solving juvenile mysteries, excessive body-paint, or pro wrestling among his hobbies, has prototypical DE size and strength and is more polished at run-stuffing than pass-rushing at this point. His fake 40 time of 5.0 seems a little slow (for reference's sake, all of Iowa's current DL starters had fake 40 times in the 4.7s when they arrived here), so he seems like another DT candidate if he adds some more bulk. Regardless, he looks like yet another "redshirt and wait and see" candidate.
Fun Fact: Hardy fell in love with Iowa City and committed to Iowa after being introduced to the pie-shakes at the Hamburg Inn. Mmm pie-shakes.
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Woo
Denison! Represent that home-state lovin’!
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I grew up in a small town about 30 minutes north of Denison.
It’s true, not a single damn person in that area speaks english. Thanks IBP!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 2:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dude
You wouldn’t happen to speaking of the Notorious IG? Ida Grove, to the layperson…
"Conan, what is best in life?" "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women"
by Natty Bumppo's Murderous Gaze on Feb 3, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's right!
A proud graduate of “the” BC-IG Falcons!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
30 min to the East
Carroll-Kuemper grad. just a couple of years ahead of the SHERIFF.
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh
Hawkeye-10 represent!
Kuemper Class of ’08 for you then?
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DHS '06
And may I congratulate your girls BB team for obliterating ours a couple weeks ago? That was embarrassing…
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why thank you
but I’m kinda against our girls BB team cuz the coach is a royal doucher but still, thanks again.
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Western Iowa Represent
What year? I’m Class of ’97
"Conan, what is best in life?" "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women"
by Natty Bumppo's Murderous Gaze on Feb 3, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BCIG That is
"Conan, what is best in life?" "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women"
by Natty Bumppo's Murderous Gaze on Feb 3, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Class of 1998!
Wow, after thinking about it, that was a long ass time ago!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're both old
lol jk
/youngwhippersnapper’d
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
going to school in South Dakota
it feels like i’ve been out of HS for 10 years. I feel old but I’m not. I’m like Benjamin Button.
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're...actually getting younger every year?
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
I honestly didn’t know what I was saying. I just want to be Brad Pitt
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
12 Monkey's Brad Pitt, or Fight Club Brad Pitt?
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I just want to bang Angelina Jolie
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Been there,
done that!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Got the clap!
but it was worth it.
by HawkeyeRecon on Feb 3, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, you got lucky.
My penis fell off three years ago after hitting that shit.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord there are a lot of western Iowans on here.
Filthy dogs, the lot of you.
(Sioux City West ’00 woo)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah well...
your city smells funny. So there. Mwahahaha.
…/misses trips to Heelan and North…
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
God does it ever
I get the privilege of driving by the Tyson plant every time I go home
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot deny its wonderful aroma.
And I can’t fathom why anyone would miss trips to Heelan or North. Or any city school for that matter. (For football anyway; some of the basketball gyms did have some atmosphere.)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, but
I was a debate nerd and tennis kid.
Besides…Heelan had an awesome tunnel connecting the school and the CYO building.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was also a debate nerd.
And definitely don’t miss hanging out in those cafeterias.
Heelan did have a funky tunnel, though, I’ll give them that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, camping was boring
and expensive, because they always made sure there were delicious ($2) desserts all afternoon.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So does yours
Also a Kuemper grad. Class of ’99.
by shada's revenge on Feb 3, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a good time to reiterate my "set everything west of I-35 on fire" plan
by NorseHawk on Feb 3, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
We'd just
engineer a giant firebreak along US-71, presuming our initial line on Jefferson’s latitude was overcome. We’re cleverer than you give us credit for!
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Flying right over the fire breaks and fire bombing the whole thing like Dresden
Don’t challenge me, Western Iowa.
by NorseHawk on Feb 3, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I support this.
So long as my family has sufficient warning to get the fuck out first.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Lord...
this thread has been hijacked by Eastern Nebraskans.
"I'm not doing any good back here."
by Hawkaloogie on Feb 3, 2010 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You better take that back!
At least give us the commin courtesy of a “reach around” and call us Eastern South Dakotans…
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How bout...
Northwestern Southeastern Iowans?
"You're going to go out there with a dick full of confidence. Then, you're going to spray that confidence all over the stadium." -Blue Mountain State
by Hawkaloogie on Feb 3, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, that'll work.
Anything is better than being called an “Eastern Nebraskan.”
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Treynor High '99 Go Cardinals WHAT
No, seriously, what?
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Hawkeye State on Feb 4, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scherff actually played QB
as a Junior. That is crazy talk. I guess it might be effective to qb sneak it with a 6-6 300 pounder plowing his way forward. His stats as a qb were pretty terrible (he completed just 18 of 73 passes for 175 yards with no touchdowns and 2 interceptions) so it’s probably a good thing he’s ending up on the line.
The word is Fight, Fight, Fight for Iowa
by fightforiowa on Feb 3, 2010 2:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I have a friend that played against him in JR High and said all they did with him at qb was run options. then on defense he’d play tackle.
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
he’s also a state champion in shot put (or was it discus) so… whoever put him at QB in the first place was out of their mind.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Discus.
I was going to mention that, then forgot.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably does a lot
to explain why his passer rating was so shitty then.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well i could see it at JR High
for the fact that he could just run over pre-pubescent shits. but HS doesn’t make sense. I know when I was in 7th grade we had a kid that was way too developed for that age. was a good 5-10 180 and he was our running back. but he didn’t grow so he stayed at running back but still. It’s the size advantage thing. But yeah, you can’t afford to have a man that big at QB in high school
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
So my idea to have Tyler Bubke (who was 6’ something, 300+) take a few goal-line snaps at QB as a senior would have been… a bad idea?
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In that case
he could probably block for himself
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
be like
the Kung-Fu panda.
Incoming tackler:
Bubke: Ska-doosh.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
er
that should be “bounces off”
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The best athlete on the team usually plays QB
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
by Kluginator on Feb 3, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a Tebow jr.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
by fliphawk4 on Feb 3, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Donnal
I often enjoy when our recruits aren’t hyped as instant impact guys. That way, down the road, media outlets will have the OMG WHERE WERE WE ON THAT GUY moment. Because I mean…that happens all the time for Iowa NFL prospects. Right?
And leave Gallery out of this.
by mikjones24 on Feb 3, 2010 2:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure Donnal is really an example of that, unless he plays this year or something
He’s universally hailed as a great prospect, just one that needs a little time in the weight room. So, not an instant-impact guy, but definitely a guy everyone expects to make a big impact down the road.
by NorseHawk on Feb 3, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was born in Denison....
…and in Denisese my last name meant “Get me the fuck out Denison!”
"Conan, what is best in life?" "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women"
by Natty Bumppo's Murderous Gaze on Feb 3, 2010 2:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I lived there for 18 years
my last name in Denisese means “Go South, Young Cheapskate.”
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you guys are from Denison...
then how in the hell are we communicating in english. I am fucking perplexed!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 3, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you prefer
If I spoke about moving catty-whompus from the accursed city? :P
Nah, just chalk it up to the quality ESL education in Iowa schools.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Feb 3, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quick reminder
Reiff was graded by ESPN at 74 and a 3 star rated player by most services….at DE. In the recruting analysis they never evaluated him in terms of the OL.
Lots of road to travel for all these young guys. Iowa does position change, and improves strength as well as anyone. Maybe better.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 3, 2010 3:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Dace and Bulaga were guys that people thought could contribute ASAP – and they did. (Mike Jones and Raf Eubanks also contributed ASAP, but I don’t remember what the buzz was about them… I think they were also forced into action earlier than the coaches would have liked.) It doesn’t sound like we have any guys like that in this crop. Which is alright — we have an excellent DL and while we could use a Bulaga-type to fill one of the holes on the OL, we have some guys who have been around for a year or two to learn things.
And your point about Reiff is well-taken, too — some guys pick things up faster than others. It’s impossible to know who among these guys might do that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jones definitely had a ton of hype coming in
And Raf was pretty highly regarded (4*), although I don’t know if anyone expected him to be a starter right away or not.
But yeah, I could definitely see position switches and things like that. I’ve thought from the start that Hardy is a future DT or guard.
by NorseHawk on Feb 3, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
I’m not sure who started that year but I remember watching a game and the center got hurt and they were warming up this Eubanks guy who was a Freshman so I know he played early at least
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I know he started most of his freshman year
He was a freshman all-american. I just can’t recall if he was expected to compete for a starting job coming in.
by NorseHawk on Feb 3, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jones was definitely a big-time recruit.
I just wasn’t sure if he was one of those “he should play as a frosh” types. Obviously he wound up having to play anyway because we got nailed with a bunch of injuries that fall.
RE: Hardy… yeah, they list him as a DE, but I really don’t see that with him. He seems like more of an interior guy, either on offense or defense.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What a difference a year makes
The guys sitting the last year or two have a whole spring/summer of camps etc. to get reps in and be ready for fall. I think the line will be alright. Fingers crossed.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
by fliphawk4 on Feb 3, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
does anyone else see Davis playing his entire career on the D-line? Something about a 6-5 300 pound frame screams O-line in the Ferentz system.
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's possible, I suppose.
If Davis has the goods to go with his size, I think they’d like to keep him there — there’s a reason the really good 300-lb. DTs are so coveted, after all. But it probably depends on how athletic he winds up being; we demand a lot out of DTs and just being fat and eating up space doesn’t really cut it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say, looking at his tape, he doesn't look 300
Granted, you never want to put too much stock into a video comprised entirely of a kid at his best, but he seems pretty well put together, and moves pretty well for a guy his size. There’s even some video of him dunking a basketball at the end, which is something that like half our basketball team can’t do. He does have some issues with staying low and stuff, but he’s definitely got some athletic ability.
by NorseHawk on Feb 3, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Fake" 40 times
What’s the deal? Fake becausel they’re inherently unreliable or…?
by icculus on Feb 3, 2010 3:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hand timed by a family member or coach. Kind of like Hayden Fry's player sizes. They always grew 2-3 inches and gained 30 pounds a day after signing.
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
by Kluginator on Feb 3, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What Kluginator said.
Compare some of the reported 40 times of guys coming into college to the 40 times for the same guys at the NFL Combine. Chances are good they didn’t actually get slower after being exposed to 3-4 years of high-level training…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy it...
are you two suggesting that hs coaches and parents stretch the truth? Seems unlikely… bwahahaha
by icculus on Feb 3, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hayden Fry use to rave about
Larry Station as being 6’ and 230 lbs. Then once Station became a consensus first team All American, he became the 5’ 10" 220 lbs linebacker he really was. But, it was never updated in the media guide during his career as I recall. I see though that the Iowa football site has it accurately listed now. But I remember meeting him thinking, this guy can’t play football. He was like a midget.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 3, 2010 4:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is it safe to say that you didn’t call Station a midget to his face?
If you feel like singing along, don't.
James Taylor
by Kluginator on Feb 3, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's why he lives in New York now?
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember "thinking"...
you know…this is true…there were at least 4 guys who started on that 1983 team that were 5’ 10" or shorter. Norm Granger was like 5’ 7" and Kenny Sims was a shorty too. And Ronnie Harmon is no more than 5’ 11"…in cleats.
None of them fucked with me. They knew I was from the hell.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 3, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"in cleats"
What does it matter? It’s not like he’s going to be playing without shoes!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2010 6:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to the NFL
at the combine they measure those guys naked and chagrined.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 3, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

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