CREEPYPALOOZA 2010: The Skill Positions
Sure, caring is creepy. That's why we generally leave it to the Rivals guys. But once their signature goes on the dotted line of an Iowa letter of intent, caring ceases to be creepy and becomes essential. So, without further ado, your objects of affection and/or scorn (sometimes both at the same time) for the next four or five years. First, the skill positions:
A.J. Derby (6'4", 218)
Quarterback
Iowa City High
4* Rivals, 3* Scout, 80 ESPN
Much like the Korean War and the chase for Martin Palermo in Championship Manager 2000/01, the Derby Derby was fierce and sucked in many of the major superpowers in college football. Derby, the consensus best prospect in Iowa, held offers from Alabama, Florida, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, and a whole host of Midwestern mid-carders. At times it appeared he had no interest in staying home and playing for the Hawkeyes, especially when the message boards began churning with "The next Tebow, at least in his own head" rumors. But the superpowers balked at making Derby -- knocked for throwing accuracy in high school -- a quarterback, and Iowa desperately needed a quarterback after striking out last year. This fall, Ferentz and company cut bait with every other prospective quarterback in the class and put everything behind the push for Derby. With that pseudo-guarantee in hand, Derby committed quickly.
Fun Fact: If he were British, his last name would be pronounced "Darby." Fortunately, he's not British. He's American.
Austin Vier (6'7", 225)
Quarterback/Athlete
Ballard (Huxley, IA)
2* Rivals, 2* Scout, 74 ESPN
While Derby was pursued by every program in the country, Vier was known by practically nobody outside southern Story County when, after an appearance at an Iowa camp this summer, he was offered and signed on the spot. The good news, of course, is that he's a giant, and his fake combine numbers (4.65 40, 4.41 shuttle, 31" vertical) are enough to make us giddy. There are positional questions, to be sure; he played quarterback in high school, but looks more like a monster tight end to us at the moment, and has the frame for potential upgrade into the line. A project of sorts, but a risk worth taking.
Fun Fact: You would think that, based on the name of his hometown, his favorite book is Brave New World. But it's not. Ironically enough, it's Orwell's 1984.
Marcus Coker (6'1", 222)
Running Back
DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD)
4* Rivals, 3* Scout, 78 ESPN
Coker's saga has been well-documented here and elsewhere: Lightly recruited by Wake Forest, Maryland, and Minnesota, who all saw him as a potential fullback, Coker (which must be said in that question-like "I don't even know her!" voice at all times, pursuant to BHGP Executive Order) and his mom hopped in the family's Ford Taurus last summer and came to Iowa City. After watching a Shonn Greene highlight film or two, it was over; Coker was to be a Hawkeye. He then returned to Maryland and put a smackdown on every candy ass within 100 miles of the Chesapeake, including 392 yards rushing against the Gilman School (whose defense included two members of this list). The virtual unknown became a sought-after commodity but, aside from a brief kerfuffle stemming from a Facebook update, he remained loyal.
Fun Fact: Given his name, you'd think Coker (?) was a Coca-Cola drinker, but the man actually prefers Diet Rite. He'll drink Mr. Pibb in a pinch.
De'Andre Johnson (5'8", 210)
Running Back
Monsignor Pace (Miami, FL)
3* Rivals, 2* Scout, 70 ESPN
Johnson was being pursued by some of the South's big names (Florida and LSU reportedly had interest over the summer) when he tore his ACL in the second week of September. The big fish went to other ponds. Iowa stayed, assuming this just got the inevitable ACL tear out of the way before he hit campus. Johnson was left to decide between Iowa and a handful of lesser programs (Florida International, Duke, Minnesota, etc.) Ten days after his injury, Johnson attended the Arizona game and committed soon thereafter. Johnson produced in the two years prior to his injury, amassing 1800 yards and 17 touchdowns combined, but we're always weary of two-star types from big Florida schools; it's not like they haven't been seen.
Fun Fact: Despite his hometown, Johnson is not a Dolphins fan. In fact, he's not much of an NFL fan at all, preferring the wide-open action of Canadian football. His favorite team is the one not named Roughriders.
Kevonte Martin-Manley (6'0", 200)
Wide Receiver
Brother Rice (Pontiac, MI)
2* Rivals, 2* Scout, 75 ESPN
KMM stands poised to assume the Iowa Hyphenated Last Name Wide Receiver (hereinafter IHLNWR) mantle upon DJK's graduation after next season; in fact, the Hawkeyes' warm embrace of Run-DJK and his hyphen-ness no doubt played a part in his recruitment. Martin-Manley is the prototypical Iowa wide receiver recruit under Ferentz: productive in high school (1355 yards and 19 touchdowns on 77 catches as a junior and senior), might lack one or two of the skills needed to be an elite prospect (in KMM's case, top-end speed), a handful of MAC-ish offers (Central Michigan, Bowling Green, Toledo, Illinois). One year with Doyle and these guys become weapons.
Fun Fact: Kevonte's first name is a combination of Kevin and Dante, with an 'o' thrown in there for the heck of it.
Don Shumpert (6'2", 185)
Wide Receiver/Athlete
Hazelwood East (St. Louis)
3* Rivals, 2* Scout, 78 ESPN
On the other end of the spectrum, we have Don Shumpert, a string bean of a receiver/safety, Reggie Cleveland All-Star, and the latest product of Iowa's recruiting inroads in St. Louis. Shumpert came as a package deal with high school teammate DE Christian Kirksey; both look to be projects who will need some time with Doyle before they sniff some playing time, and Shumpert in particular is a man without a position. Scout lists him as a receiver, ESPN has him playing safety, and Rivals throws their hands up and gives him the dreaded "athlete" designation. His fake 40 time (4.45) is probably enough to get him a look as a receiver, especially given the current depth chart.
Fun Fact: "Don Shumpert" sounds like the name of a guy who drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon, but Shumpert doesn't go for PBR. He's only 18, stupid! He can't possibly have the refined sense of detached irony that comes from drinking Pabst.
C.J. Fiedorowicz (6'7", 240)
Tight End
Johnsburg, IL
4* Rivals, 4* Scout, 81 ESPN
POLISH HAT.
There. That's out of the way. Fiedorowicz is arguably the highest-rated recruit in Iowa's 2010 class; according to ESPN, he's slightly more highly regarded than Derby. Polish Hat, the top-rated player in Illinois, initially committed to Zook over the summer. In later interviews, he hinted that it was done essentially to stop Zook from incessantly calling him. After reflecting on the fact that he wanted to play tight end but committed to a coach who thinks that's a sexual term, Fiedorowicz reopened his recruitment (leading Zook to make the most ironic phone call ever in an attempt to stop him from visiting Iowa) and, after spending a weekend in Iowa City with Tony Moeaki, was a Hawkeye. It was just the latest example in one of this season's overarching recruiting themes: Iowa went head-to-head with both Zook and Brewster for a number of players and DESTROYED them both, despite their perceived status as "recruiters."
Fun Fact: He's not even Polish. He's half-Swedish, half-Azerbaijanian. It's kind of like how Moeaki was "The Flyin' Hawaiian" even though he was from Wheaton.
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I won’t refer to him accidentally as Kevonte Marley-Matlin. I apologize now Kevonte.
Wait till everyone scratches their heads and wonders how Kenyon Murray suddenly reappeared on campus as a football player
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 3, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Re: Zook and Brewster
I think the Iowa staff finally has enough evidence for recruits to believe reality instead of the ‘barefoot waterskiing’ and ‘fake win-loss record citing’ fantasy land offered to them by the d-bags to our north and east.
by Internet Legend on Feb 3, 2010 11:50 AM CST reply actions
Minnesota: Inescapable Mediocrity
The companion volume to Illinois: TJTM
by PackerHawk on Feb 3, 2010 12:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What about their new stadium(Kinnick North) and their tradition?
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Along the lines of the IHLNWR
can we refer to him as “K-Mart Man”?
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Feb 3, 2010 11:56 AM CST reply actions
KM2
not KMM.
- KM2 rolls off the tounge better.
- It can be pronounced KMDuece, which will allow us to identify the frat boys more easily.
- It sounds like a kick ass sequel. Terminator 2, Bioshock 2, World War 2.
- I have no idea if Bioshock 2 was a good game or not, just liked the sound of it
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
what’s a “tounge”, and how does one roll off it? It sounds really good if said with a forced French accent.
One rolls off it
the opposite of how I spell check.
Very carefully.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Minor corrections:
Iowa is bringing in Shumpert as a safety, so there’s not really a question there right now. He could potentially switch to WR down the road, but given the complete lack of depth at S, I’d be pretty surprised.
Kirksey is a LB, not a DE.
As far as I know pretty much everyone was recruiting Derby as a QB, but perhaps I’m mistaken there.
two out of three ain't bad
I’m pretty sure you’re right about Shumpert and Kirksey, but Derby was facing the LB tag most everywhere else. Unfortunately, I can’t find the link to the (I believe) Morehouse article that followed his verbal commitment.
Does anybody know if Derby actually enrolled at Iowa this semester?
by PackerHawk on Feb 3, 2010 12:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
He’s in my Applied Theory of Haberdashery (HABR-102) class.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
I like Morehouse, but he doesn't really follow recruiting all the closely
According to Derby, everyone was offering him as a QB; unless they changed their minds pretty late.
And yeah, he’s already enrolled, as is that one DE from Illinois with three names that I’m too lazy to look up right now.
That three named DE
is going to be the new Matt Roth. Not in skill, but in weirdness. Which is far more important than skill, especially for this blog.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
Louis Trinca-Pasat
He enjoys Romanian food, playing Balderdash, and writing fake hate-mail to Neil DrGrasse-Tyson for hatin’ on Pluto.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
All that...and he fancies himself as a rogue.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
And (seriously)
he is graduating from the high school where scenes from The Express, High Fidelity and (most importantly) the Goldie Hawn vehicle, Wildcats was filmed. Also, his school’s stadium was built on a landfill, so that’s awesome, too.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
weirdness >>>>> skill
In that case, I can’t wait to hear this kids translation of Japanese letter tattoo’s:
“Hey Matt, what do those symbols stand for?”
MR: “hate, water, love, and violence!”
1 hours later:
“Hey Matt, what do those symbols stand for?”
MR: “air, patience, destruction, and this one’s KOKs initials!”
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Feb 3, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
http://rivals.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Christian-Kirksey-100352
So there, know-it-all. Rivals r smrt! They don’t know anything!
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 3, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Where does that say he's a DE?
I know you and OPS know this, but I wasn’t trying to be a dick or anything with that post, just for the record.
Rivals show him as an athlete.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
"Athlete" is one step away from saying
“Player”
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
Is he coming in as a player
that’s what I want to know.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
Yes, but he might have to be a practicer for a year first.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Ironically no
He is going to be linebacker’s coach. Huge football IQ, they wanted to lock him up early.
He's hoping that by the he graduates he'll be offered KOK's job.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
He's going to become A-Rob's protege as a Bootyologist.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
"Bootician" woulda' been funnier.
Oh well.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
I believe it's spelled "Playa"
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
language?
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Whatever, dick.
When Kirksey starts playing defensive end, I’m going to take a steaming dump and rub your nose in it.
(We know. We kid. We kid.)
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
God damn it
I can’t even use the reply feature of my own site right today.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 3, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
It's ok HS
We’ve all had those days.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Bet you wish there was an EDIT function...
…but alas, this is ‘MeriStanzica and we’ll have none of that dictatorial censorship shit.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Don Shumpert...
joins Bob Sanders, Ed Hinkel and Fred Russell on Iowa’s list of PBR drinking plumbers.
"I'm not doing any good back here."
I see Shumpert as more of
an auto body guy myself.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
"Shumpert's, this is Don."
No, sorry, we close at 5 on Thursdays. League night at Barry’s Lanes.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Hate to say I told you so....
www.dexknows.com/business_profiles/shumperts_plumbing-l808954228
"I'm not doing any good back here."
Koulianos is the Greek equivalent of
Johnson. Little known fact.
My all time favorite sports name, is this guy. I always assume his ma was under duress.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
Although, this guy's name is a close second
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
As if he could play for any other school, too.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Better than
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet!
I’m rooting for Luscious Pussy when he visits next year with the Sex Panthers. Something to the effect of “Our Offensive Line is gonna pound your little Pusey!” (He’s 5’9".)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Rather...
…making a t-shirt that says something to the effect of (quote).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
He'd get abused
by the South Carolina RB’s all day. Here’s guessing they wouldn’t even avoid contact…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
Bob Sanders get bonus points for giving himself a PBR drinking name
I ain’t never met no plumber named Demond
Chuck Hartlieb?
Helverson?
"I AM A DIEHARD REDSKINS FAN, CAPS, LEAFS, AND I LOVE WATCHING TENNIS. SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL"
by ReadingRambler on Feb 3, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder
if by some random chance of a search engine some of these kids stumble upon this site and realize they are now under the watchful scrutiny of several dirty old men, a handfull of ugly chicks all hoping against hope they’ll hop into the van and take a swig of the ol’ Black n’ Gold Kool-Aid.
It's too early for football to be over, goddamit!!
A post-mortem of the amputated digit found conclusive evidence that Norm Parker does indeed have more talent in his pinky toe than certain coaches have in their entirety.
If you think we're bad...'Bama has a live feed of fax machine today
for their fans. Presumably, every time a fax comes in, it is a recruit’s papework accepting his scholarship.
I guess if Iowa had a live feed of anything, it would be this…

"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
Jailhouse Stories
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Don't dye your hair blond.
Trust me on this one.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
OH GOD DAMMIT!!
not logged on as myself again… my husband’s gonna KILL ME!!
Ioweegin needs to get her ass back in the kitchen and make MPHawkfan his sandwich
One man's ugly is another man's...
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
That sounds like a pick-up line...
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
/akward silence
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Like, with a Russian accent or something?
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
Make sure it's a Russian accent from "24"
Those are funniest due to their badness.
"I AM A DIEHARD REDSKINS FAN, CAPS, LEAFS, AND I LOVE WATCHING TENNIS. SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL"
by ReadingRambler on Feb 3, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
AJ Derby is a white Brad Banks!
"I AM A DIEHARD REDSKINS FAN, CAPS, LEAFS, AND I LOVE WATCHING TENNIS. SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL"
I fear AJ Derby is going to end up being a white
Allen Reisner.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
If we'd brought it another QB last year or this year, I'd agree
As it is, he’s set up pretty well to take over the job once Vandenberg graduates.
Wyatt Suess was a walk-on QB last year.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
I love walk-ons as much as anyone...
but when’s the last time we had a walk-on starting QB?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
True
The kid is pretty good. I saw him play a few times in HS. His dad Phil, who I happen to work for, was a QB for the Hawks back in the 70’s.
Here is a link to a CR Gazette article on him.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Whats the deal with 2 last names?
I don’t like, you must pick one. And, for all of you who know where each player will end up playing. Leave it to the great KF.
Two last names like...
Chrysler and Kinnick?
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
What about Blatz? Or Schlitz?
Ironic or non-ironic?
Schlitz is delicious.
Don’t know about any irony value.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
When they put Schlitz in a can...
…little bits of aluminum and irony start to flake off, which only makes it taste better. Schlitz in a bottle… I don’t know (does Schlitz even come in a bottle?).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't know it came in a can (HEEEEEEYY-OOOHHH!!!)
But yeah, it’s great (well, relatively speaking) in a bottle. Or once it’s out of it, anyway.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
It does come in a bottle, and it is awesome
It is third in my Awesome Cheap Beer Hierarchy, behind High Life and PBR.
+1
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Hamm's all the way
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
I once drank beer
out a plain, aluminum can that someone told me was “Hamm’s”. Today I would be leary, but I was too busy loving the fact that were throwing a full-fledged kegger INSIDE Currier without anyone noticing. The unmarked cans came after the contraband barrel and Mickey’s widemouths had been exhausted.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
It was probably generic beer.
With the word beer whited out.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
YES
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Don't ever underestimate the High Life
It’s a tasty beer at a quality price – or something like that.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
True.
High Life is pretty good too.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Disagree: Worst. Hangover. Ever
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2010 7:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, absolutely.
But as cheap American yellow watery swill goes…
I mean, any of those shitty beers will hang you right the fuck over and make you feel awful. It’s just a matter of choosing the one you find the least offensive. Sorta like voting, I suppose.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2010 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
Leinie’s Red = GAAAAAAAAH!!!! My eyeballs are eating my brain from the inside!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2010 1:09 AM CST up reply actions
Looks like Seantrel Henderson
is going to join the other self-absorbed knuckleheads and follow Lane Kiffin into a three-year post-season ban. What an idiot. Well, I hope he enjoys the campus, which is essentially in a slum.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
tOSU is #5 and #6 on that list.
I always knew they were loaded with thugs.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 3, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Stoops:
Do you really believe the NCAA would strike them with that?
"I AM A DIEHARD REDSKINS FAN, CAPS, LEAFS, AND I LOVE WATCHING TENNIS. SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL"
by ReadingRambler on Feb 3, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
not until the NFL moves back into LA
by PackerHawk on Feb 3, 2010 2:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If my kid were going to college
the odds would scare me off. I think they have a chance. I can’t give it a percentage. I think there is all kinds of dirt to yet be uncovered. Pete left to go to the Seahawks, and will not be able to pick the groceries? C’mon. He could have done better than that. He left for a reason. It might not be the sole reason, but there is some there there.
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein
Lane Kiffin is a better snake oil salesman
than Saban apparently. He probably convinced parents that there aren’t any problems. And I’m sure some parents really want to believe him because USC will get a ton of coverage, and probably will even with a postseason ban in place. Facing P10 defenses will make him look even better than he is, and he is really good.
by PackerHawk on Feb 3, 2010 3:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If Pete didn't leave enough dirt behind
Kiffin will bring in some of his own. It sounds like his recruiting tactics at Tennessee were were way beyond the limit….. and now he’ll get to send out USC girls. The Vol boosters will never talk of course, but if the NCAA decides to keep an eye on him in So. Cal, USC could end up in deep shit.
I’m just glad Pete left so the Big Ten will stop having to charge into the USC buzz saw every January.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Seantrel
is just another Dominique Douglas is the waiting!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
damn-it fail
“in”…not “is”
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
shocked
That Marquette and U of Chicago aren’t on that list. I also wonder if they would have cracked the list if we looked at violent crimes. It’s one thing to worry about your computer and tv and a whole ’nother thing to worry about getting caught in a crossfire. Sorry, I digress…
by PackerHawk on Feb 3, 2010 2:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know a guy that's a music student @ USC
And he was worried as hell about finding off campus housing that was relatively safe. The campus is in a horrible part of LA.
I was sort of surprised to see tOSU on the list but the campus is in sort of a skanky downtown area… both times I drove through it a couple of decades ago I was surprised by the number of hookers walking around on the side streets…
But South Carolina really surprised me.
My blog: http://www.gretainthebox.com
by Leftcoast Hawk on Feb 3, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
So...
UCSB crime rate is 1019 per 1000 residents? Sucks to be those 19 people getting it twice.
"I'm not doing any good back here."
My cousin is going there to play baseball next year.
I wonder if he realized that crime rate. I may have to make fun of him for being a thug now. Hopefully he can avoid it happening twice and fall in the once category.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Awesome find
"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess
By the way, Henderson hasn't actually announced where he's going yet
The USC thing was just the hot speculation earlier in the day. The Star Trib is saying it’s going to be Miami now, for whatever that’s worth.
Welp, nevermind, USC it is
I still think calling 18 year old kids out for where they go to school is pretty awful though, so hopefully there’s no more of that in here. It’s not exactly a guarantee that USC will suffer any sort of serious penalty, and there are obviously a lot of really good reasons to go to USC.
What things?
SoCal weather after years in Minnesota? Favorable media spin of you’re every success and stumble? NFL pipeline? Song girls? The adoration of basically being an NFL star in a town lacking an NFL team (read, more girls than you can swing a stick at)?
There are a lot of reasons to go to USC and apparently the looming spectre of the NCAA Committee on Infractions meeting later this month isn’t strong enough to deter these young men from going there. IF the NCAA does come down hard on USC, it will be interesting to see what happens.
We really need an EDIT button
Although I’m assuming the issue is the SB nation software.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Feb 3, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah basically all that
Also playing for a team that is traditionally very good, although I suppose we’ll see what happens under Kiffin. I think he’s got enough talent to work with (and is surround by enough coaching talent with guys like his dad) that they’ll continue to be a consistently strong program.
Sure
Plenty of good reasons to go to USC. But right now, none of them involve the coach. If I’m a parent, I have only one question to Lane, what can you say to assure me that you’ll be here in two years, unlike your last jobs?
And while I have absolutely no confidence in the NCAA, it is about to time for them to nail somebody to the wall if they want to clean recruiting up. But they don’t really care, and even if they did, I get the feeling they’re scared of going after the cash cow that is USC.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 3, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Holding the fact that he left for USC after a year against him is a little unfair
It’s one of the best jobs in the country and a huge step up from Tennessee and he’d have been crazy not to take it. It’s not like he knew Pete Carroll was going to leave the next year when he took the UT job.
I don't think it is
I don’t think his former Tennessee players would say it’s unfair either. Now, obviously, this is just my opinion, not backed by anything other than the stories from after the news broke. I understand that is the nature of the beast, i.e. coaches telling players that they’ll be there and then bolting when a better job comes, that doesn’t mean I have to respect it. I can appreciate that this may have been his dream job. I understand the value for the school not to delay hiring a new coach. What I don’t like is that it took no more than a couple of days to abandon those kids that he either just recruited or spent the year convincing that he would be their coach after starting with someone else.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 3, 2010 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think potential loss of a couple scholly’s and fake slap. No tv or bowl bans, anything that might actually result in loss of dollars for the school, conference, or ncaa. It will be Blazing Saddles town. Otherwise, I’m not sure 18 year old kids are particularly well suited to worrying about what kind of sanctions the ncaa might impose on football teams. They seem to be to be pretty notorious at meaning nothing, short of SMU death or the Auburn bowl ban many moons ago. As far as Kiffin, it’s early but my money says he ultimately is more Zook than Saban. I think he’s a dope and is living off Sarkisian and Chow
Maybe he's just going there for the education.
Why can’t he be going there because his major is… HOLY SHIT! I almost kept a straight face all the way through that.
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