Why the Combine SUCKS
by sfshilo on Feb 28, 2010 10:32 AM CST
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PrintPosted on Scout.com, Calloway is apparently dropping as an OT because of his 40 time and vertical???? Who writes this shit? Oh noes, he can't jump very high, what ever will he do? Since when did vertical determine how well you come out of a stance and how good your technique is? All of their posts were about how slow the lineman were lol.
Kyle Calloway, OT, Iowa
The tackle who plays opposite highly touted left tackle prospect Bryan Bulaga, Calloway (6-foot-6, 323 pounds) had a disappointing workout on Saturday. He was timed at 5.51 in the 40 and was handed the lowest vertical (23.5-inches) of all the offensive linemen.
Dace Richardson, OT, Iowa
An injury-plagued career hurt the versatile Richardson from developing into a consistent starter for Iowa, and after his performance at the Combine on Saturday, where he turned in a 5.78 in the 40, there’s no chance he will be drafted.
Ciron Black, OT, LSU
Black started 53 consecutive games at left tackle for LSU, but the 6-foot-4, 327-pounder has struggled to impress this offseason. He’s displayed slow feet, and it really showed when he ran a 5.49 in the 40. Black isn’t the most athletic tackle available in the draft, and his 25.5-inch vertical revealed his lack of explosion. Black’s stock is tumbling and he could ultimately come off the board in the fourth round.
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Calloway was pretty overrated as a prospect anyway
He didn’t live up to his reputation this season at all, and I’m not sure he’s got the lateral quickness to play tackle in the pros. You don’t need to be super fast to play offensive line, but there is a certain level of explosiveness and quickness needed (especially at tackle), and I’m not sure he has that at a pro level. Black is basically the same way.
Dace was great this year and I’d love for someone to give him a shot, but his knees are so bad that I just don’t see it.
Well
Since when did vertical determine how well you come out of a stance and how good your technique is?
While yes, the combine is worthless, it speaks to explosiveness and athleticism, two things that are very important in an NFL offensive lineman. How well you come out of a stance and technique can be taught, to some extent. Overall athletic ability can’t.
My wife and were eating lunch today
at a restaurant that was showing the combine on the big screen today. After joking about how stupid things like standing long jump are for defensive linemen, we got to see a bunch of the 40 yd dashes. My wife, and this is just one of the reasons I love her, pointed out that if she were a coach or GM, she wouldn’t care what their time was in spandex. Put them in pads and make them run, or jump or whatever. You want to see how fast they are in something closer to game situations, and if the pads impede anything.
It never gets to be easy
Darftnik's place way too much value on combine numbers.
They do mean a lot, but have very little to do with the outcome. It’s simply something to talk about and a way of getting hits for their websites.
"I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o’er." - Adrian Clayborn
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Mar 3, 2010 7:33 PM CST reply actions
They honestly do play a role in where guys are drafted though
The draftniks are trying to predict what teams are going to do and, like it or not, teams put a lot of stock into combine numbers. Guys rise and fall because of their performance there every year.
Absolutely, teams place value on combine numbers.
But the issue here is that guys like Joe Haden (who didn’t have great combine numbers) aren’t going to fall, because teams are smart enough to place equal value on game tape and drills that display their football skills, not necessarily their pure athleticism. Draftnik’s talk a shit ton about the combine this time of year because that’s literally all that’s going on at any level of football. They have nothing else to talk about, so many of them over analyze the ever-loving shit out of it.
"I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o’er." - Adrian Clayborn
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Mar 4, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know of any notable draft sites that make as big a deal about the combine as you're saying they do
They talk about it a lot, sure, but no one thinks it’s the only thing that matters. For example, pretty much everyone acknowledges that, while Haden may drop a couple spots because of his shitty 40, he’s still the top corner prospect by a pretty wide margin. They still factor in on the field performance. You’re pretty much beating up on a strawman here.
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