Rep. Wayne Ford Holds Adrian Clayborn to Higher Standard Than He Holds Himself
You had to know this was coming, right? Some politician starts grandstanding about holding people to unreasonable standards of conduct, and what do you know, he's got unaddressed issues of his own.
Quick refresher for those who missed it this morning: State Rep. Wayne Ford (D) of Des Moines, who kinda looks like James Earl Jones, fired a verbal salvo at Adrian Clayborn last week, saying Clayborn "did not deserve ... to play" in the Orange Bowl on account of his outstanding assault case that seems to be nearing an end in March. We'll let Rep. Ford explain his reasoning once more:
"My concern is for the athletes. We are sending the wrong message when we ignore their wrongdoing. We are saying that if you are a good enough player you can do whatever you want and do not have to face the consequences. This is not how life works and our students need to learn that before they get into even more serious trouble."
"It is not about being found innocent or guilty. It is about what is and what is not appropriate behavior."
Again, strong words, if logically dubious.
Ford (second from left), seen here shunning Rep. Kerry Burt (far right) after Burt's DUI arrest and demanding Burt be removed from the floor of the Statehouse until his case is completely resolved.
Now, Ford deserves some credit for his candor in admitting that his stance isn't based in legality, but merely the appearance of impropriety. That's fair. Somebody representing the state of Iowa should never, ever do so with the cloud of misbehavior hanging over his or her head.
In related news, just last summer, Rep. Ford himself found himself under scrutiny for various financial misdeeds:
On May 15th, Ford's campaign reimbursed an urban dreams employee $93.00 for gratuities paid to youth. Ford wrote checks out to himself for the same purpose four more times that month and once in June. The total amount spent on gratuities to youth over the three week period was $2693.00
Another red flag on May 30th, Urban Dreams, the non-profit managed by Ford, contributed a little more than $60 to Ford's campaign. In a letter to Ford, the Iowa Ethics and Campaign Disclosure Board ordered the campaign to refund the money. Iowa Law prohibits non-profits from contributing to campaigns. In fact, it could jeopardize Urban Dreams' non-profit status.
And finally, there are questions about loans made to Ford from his campaign and how they were repaid. The oversight group wants to know why in one case, "a loan would be made, seemingly to repay a loan."
[Terrorist fist jab: commenter hawknerd for finding that article]
Funny thing: we can't find any record of Ford recusing himself from all legislature-related business, even as his office stalled for time while trying to resolve the issue. In fact, we haven't been able to find any mention of the issue since the aforementioned report on June 26th. So, if this issue is still outstanding, doesn't it necessarily follow that Ford should demand his own suspension immediately? Or is that "not how life works"?
And look, it's entirely possible that Ford and his campaign have done absolutely nothing wrong or illegal. But Ford himself said that's not the point. And if he wants to call Kirk Ferentz's ethics into question over what will likely be a guilty plea for simple assault--a charge that carries a $65 fine and no jail time--one would imagine he would have even more appreciation for the severity of ethical concerns about finances, and police himself accordingly. But then again, nobody in this House seems to have any worries about throwing stones.
[Quick reminder: BHGP is not where people go for political talk. We would be making the same points about Ford if there were an R attached to his name or if his skin color were white. Your challenge is to hold yourself to the same standard.]
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Call out frauds
When they are being frauds.
Good job out of you oops.
by Internet Legend on Feb 22, 2010 8:26 PM CST reply actions
I'm just waiting for all the fans of ISU to jump all over OPS for this
Oh wait… that would require having fans in the first place
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
Soon. Soon...
http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/1564489-post53.html
MORE ZAZZ! I DEMAND MORE ZAZZ!
by Bucketochicken on Feb 22, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
George: Why? Because we’re a team! C’mon! Would you take this for us, dear? Thank you very much. Here we go… (To Morgan) Anyone ever tell you you look a lot like Sugar Ray Leonard? Yeah, you must get that all the time.
Morgan: I suppose we all look alike to you, right Costanza?
George: No, not a racial thing, there really is a resemblance…
Fiya Minaya.
Waiter: Hey, Sugar Ray Leonard can eat here on the house.
George: Mr. Morgan! Did you hear that? Mr. Morgan!
Fiya Minaya.
by BringBackBobby on Feb 22, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Ya screwed me again, Costanza.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 23, 2010 6:26 AM CST up reply actions
If I'm mistaken here, feel free to correct me...
Were charges pressed before the Orange Bowl?,
"...there'll be some woman, maybe 45 or 50, she'll come up and give me a hug, and I'll give my wife a wink: See? I'm not that old." - Joe Paterno
This is precisely...
why I never criticize folks who get arrested while not wearing pants.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 22, 2010 9:30 PM CST reply actions
In all fairness
Adrian Clayborn is a role model by virtue of being an athlete.
Rep. Ford, by virtue of being a politician, is an anti-role model.
It never gets to be easy
I'm a little underwhelmed by those charges against Ford
The money involved here is tiny. Tiny. Perhaps he also has a daughter or a staffer who is a known thespian as well. Moreover, there’s no real equivalance or similarity between what Clayborn and Ford are respectively accused of here, outside of some gigantic umbrella of ethics. If Clayborn was accused of selling comped tickets for a profit or something like that, then we could talk.
I think you’d be better served just addressing the Clayborn issue directly (or perhaps you already have) than taking this angle, which looks grasping to me.
You read all that and still missed the point?
Impressive.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
?????????
A.C. didn’t call out a representative that was doing some underhanded things, it is the other way around. At least A.C. is a kid and is going to make mistakes as part of the learning curve of becoming a man. Ford is a grown man making mistakes with money that is not his. Apples and Oranges. To a working stiff like me $3000 would shut my household down for a couple of weeks. But if $3000 to you is F*#K you money then good for you.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 22, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
apples to apples
Different types of crimes, yes. Both misdemeanors, neither involving prison time. It’s not about the money involved, its about the politician calling out the athlete when the politician isn’t quite so innocent himself. Something about he without sin and casting stones might apply here if I payed more attenetion in Sunday School…
by Norfcoast Hawk on Feb 22, 2010 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure if what Ford did was a misdemeanor.
A bit rusty on my Iowa statutes, but the felony threshold for felony theft is around $1500 in most states. Now if he has diverted funds $300 a time, then you have misdemeanors, but if one of them creeps over that threshold then you have a felony. The article just states around $2900 total. So is it out of the realm of possibility that one of those 5 payments might reach the threshold. On top of that there are certain crimes in which the total ammount can be used as a cummulative charge. There again IA statute may be different then the ones I deal with west of the Missouri River.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 22, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
But it's not about guilt or innocence.
Rep. Ford said so himself. It’s about “appropriate and inappropriate.” And if an accusation of assault constitutes “inappropriate” for a college student, wouldn’t ethical concerns about finances qualify much moreso for an elected representative?
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Feb 22, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
We're not comparing the two, dude.
Merely pointing out that Rep. Ford doesn’t stand up to his own level of scrutiny.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Feb 22, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
i'm not trying to troll
I just don’t feel like being accused of what is most likely a misdemeanor means that you are somehow disallowed from commenting about another case that’s in the public eye.
As for the issue of Ford living up to his own standards, he is currently under investigation, essentially at an earlier stage of the process than Clayborn is at. He has recieved a letter.
Unfortunately, there isn’t really a political equivalent to sitting out a game, other than maybe something symbolic like censure. Ford isn’t saying Cla should be kicked off the team, kicked out of school, etc. He said he should have been suspended for one game. If anything, probably the most analogous situation would be for the leader of Ford’s party in the state to not feature Ford on the fundraising circuit or somesuch. If Clayborn doesn’t play in a game it a) doesn’t ultimately mean anything and b) he can be easily replaced. Having a politician leave office in the middle of a term creates much more chaos, screws up committees, can lead to people not being represented at all, etc etc.
Politicians are elected servants of the people...
…and to compare a democratically elected official to a college athlete is a big reach. Did he do something wrong? Yes. Will he be punished? Yes. Does an allegedly corrupt politician need to drag him over the coals in the State Legislature while the newspapers and websites decide guilt and punishment before it’s even finished? Probably not.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 23, 2010 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
This is what we are trying to get at...
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Mathew 7 verses 3-5 NIV
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
Or as those sages in House of Pain once said...
…“it’s time to clean up your own back yard, before you go knockin on your neighbor’s door.”
HOP reference FTW.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 23, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
That'll work too.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." HST
As someone who has been jaded by politics in general
I have to say that the esteemed Representative from Des Moines needs to worry about the educational crisis that this state is currently undergoing along with the huge budget shortfall that will lead to public safety and public works suffering. I like OPS could care less about R or D, or B or W or H. I want my public servents to do what is best for this state and do it without grandstanding. This whole thing looks like a smoke and mirror, look at what the left hand is doing while the right hand hides something.
A.C. will get his day in court and will serve a fair and just punishment under K.F. If the last few years have taught me anything it is that K.F. is not scared to make the tough decisions about star players. I.E. Dominique Douglas, James Cleveland, ECT. One should not throw poo if you are stepping in it yourself.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 22, 2010 10:16 PM CST reply actions
and why this case
Why is the Rep. talking about this case. What, there werent other cases of student athlete arrests around the state that would have been a better case to make an example with?
I’m glad Oops posted this and linked to the story on the Trib I found. I actually have a lot more ammo against the Rep and plan to do a journalistic piece to expose the fraud for what he is worth. Mr. Ford also doesn’t want to ban texting while driving because…wait for it…even though its a safety issue, and his primary concern is the safety of Iowa, he feels cops will use that as a way to racial profile in traffic stops.
“Athletic competition provides a way for young students to improve their status in life. I’m a clear example.” – Rep. Wayne Ford.
I would definately use it.
To profile 17 year old white females who are drifting lane to lane on their way to the mall.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 23, 2010 8:01 AM CST up reply actions
just checked that cyclone board
and saw a bunch of vasectomy ads…
http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/state-rivals/82325-state-representative-clayborn-others-4.html
never going back
Gotta get up to get down
I think it's very responsible of them
to take a stance that they should not procreate.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 23, 2010 2:53 AM CST up reply actions
Another funny thing
While it is only rumor at this point, I am sure some of the iowa writers will confirm it off the record….
Clayborn punched the cabbie as a result of a racial slur. I guarantee Rep. Ford, the founder of ‘Urban Dreams’ and recent honoree at a Black History Month dinner, had no clue he was commenting on a racial sensitive case. Had he known that, his opinion on the subject would have been different, which makes him an even bigger hypocrite. And how tacky and unethical is it to call out a student athlete out by name?
In college, I unwisely got an OWI in Iowa City. By Rep. Ford’s opinion, I should have been booted from school myself. I love the idea of making a stupid mistake only to have my entire future snatched from me by a guy that a little more that 5,000 people elected into office.
I guess my whole point is…this guy is a douche. He needs to be ousted from office. Have him learn a life lesson…don’t mess with an Iowa Hawkeye defensive end.
This is just a classic, very ill-conceived PR grab
…from a PR standpoint, I think (I hope) it is suicide for a politician to challenge publicly the university’s athletic department on matters such as these.
A politician that chooses to publicly criticize such an inconsequential aspect of a university’s operation should, in a truly free society, do so at his/her public relations peril. The local government has not been pressured to deal with Clayborn differently. And by all accounts, they are not. So this is not an issue for a politician.
There is a reason why the ENTIRE world comes to America for its education (as an example, Great Britain with 1/5th the population of the U.S. has 114 universities, we have almost 5,000). For universities to be world class, they need tremendous freedoms, and most obviously freedom to teach and research in ways that might just be inconvenient to external political groups or government authorities, without the institution being targeted for repercussions. Athletics is an extension of the university in every way. How they handle a student-athlete is not separate from the central mission of the university. Universities are sacred places too. The learning process by its very nature is one where mistakes must be tolerated and learned from.
The ancient and original notion of a university was one where it would be separate from everyday life, a place where time essentially stopped, and reflection would be embraced, experimentation was core. That is why universities were walled in, ivy walled if you will, and when students emerged after elaborate ceremonies of completion, they were different and would integrate back into the everyday world—fully expected to change that world.
If we have our politicians dictating the behaviors of the university, trying to squeeze it through public pressure, as Ford is attempting here, then all that accomplishes is to make the state of Iowa, its politicians and the University of Iowa (should it succumb to that pressure) look like a bunch of hillbillies. No confident government is ever anxious about the work of a university. No rational government ever micromanages the work of a university.
I see no reason to attack him personally though. The logic of his behavior is fodder enough.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Wow. That was way too deep for me.
But very insightful. I just try to follow the simple rule of the less government intervention into daily life the better.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 23, 2010 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
It's just the basic notion of education
fear of a smart electorate leads to….
But, to make it ubber simple, leave the fucking university alone unless it is demonstrably out of control. Besides, the State of Iowa has ample representation in the U of I’s affairs. There are more university committees than you can ever imagine with outside, political representation. The books are public. And on and on. Such is the structure of a public university.
Which only adds to the stupidity of this whole thing.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
ubber simple?
That make it less deep for Mr. Ironman? I tease, Stoops, I tease.
by imadirtyoldman on Feb 23, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
I got it now.....
…..the the U of I the Fuck Alone. That was much better. Sometimes speaking Marine is all I ask so I can participte. If you would have said “This Representative’s shit is all fucked up and he needs to unfuck himself” I would’nt have had to ask for the clarification.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 23, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
I meant to say...
….leave the U of I the Fuck alone. I can think faster than I can type.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 23, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Marine translation of article, NSFW
Punk Corporal called out AC for poking some guy, then his dumb ass got clipped for stealing from the coffee mess.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 26, 2010 4:36 AM CST up reply actions
Perhaps this point has been made elsewhere, but..
this is just table pounding by a politician.
There are a lot of factors at play in the “Taxi Incident” that just can’t be done justice in a throwaway PR speech. Isn’t Clayborn allowed to have his say in court? Doesn’t the court system have the right to make rulings as it sees fit without the constant threat of political meddling? What kind of medication is StoopsMyAss on that he can make such lucid arguments at 5:50 in the fucking morning?
I wish my Hawks (white, black, copper, caramel and otherwise) would behave better. They live in a county where law enforcement treats college students in a way that borders on harassment. I notice that was left out of the speech. They (student-athletes) need to know that Big Brother is watching when they go out on the town in Johnson County.
Had Capt. Kirk given AC the bounce before the courts worked this through, and the courts then found AC not guilty, what then? What kind of speeches would we hear? When you invite young black men to play football in a state that is overwhelmingly white, patience has to be the watchword.
Take young men who are rough by nature (because they are football players; I’m talking all Hawks now), give them instant adoration, mix in the alcohol and drugs found on every college campus, add girls who are every bit as horned up as they are, and see what happens.
Follow that formula then count the mis-steps and awful acts by the hundreds of players who have gone through Kirk’s system. I’d say the good captain is doing pretty well; better than most, in fact.
Maybe next time, the Nightmare Beast can avoid controversy by setting up a non-profit organization that looks suspiciously like a money laundering scheme. That seems to be how the game is played at the statehouse.
Stepping off my soapbox now…
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 23, 2010 10:02 AM CST reply actions
Let's just ship Ford's ass to Oregon and he can say all he wants about the criminal acts going on out there.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 23, 2010 10:05 AM CST reply actions
I'm proud of myself
I accepted the challenge, and held myself to a BHGP standard. Whither to now?
"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess
Clayborn screwed up
Punching a guy in the face isn’t the way to solve conflicts no matter what was said to you. Although assaults happen daily in every town all over the country his name bubbles to the surface because he is one of the highest profile players in an increasingly higher profile program. People are going to rip him and the program simply because they can.
The more telling thing to me is that Clayborn hasn’t had any trouble since this incident. Which means one of two things, 1) he realized this isn’t the best way to solve problems or help him make really serious bank on Sundays in 2011 or 2) the U of Iowa is doing a better job of covering it up. I highly doubt #2 is possible – Iowa City is far too small of a town to have him do anything that isn’t noticed. It seems that Representative Ford hasn’t learned that same lesson yet. Although not researched by myself, I understand he has had a track record (if not criminal record) of fringe behavior. If AC would punch someone else or have problems with EtOH the second offense would warrant a multi-game suspension or dismissal from the team, dependent on severity.
Having Rep. Ford comment on moral behavior is truly a plank in his eye along with stepping over a line that some public officials just can’t resist, using the mistakes of athletes to get their name in the paper. But whatever he says doesn’t excuse the behavior of AC. This KID made a mistake and now is dealing with the consequences by learning from it, taking his punishment and moving on. No political commentary intended here; our former president picked up an OWI when he was 30, blew it off as a “youthful indiscretion” and the country as a whole agreed – one offense isn’t damning, a pattern of behavior is. AC hasn’t displayed a pattern and hopefully he won’t. The state legislator should leave AC/U of I alone. Rep. Ford should stop trying to advance his career by lashing his wagon to high profile individuals. Let the IC police do their job, the football program mind its own house, punish AC for this and make sure he does nothing else that would require severe action.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 23, 2010 12:40 PM CST reply actions
Hey, did you have your twins yet?
"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess
yup
Surprised I can type straight – how about you?
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 24, 2010 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
Nice! Congrats, dude!
All things good? Got em home yet?
Nah, still bakin over here. They’re both psyched about the olympics, tho, and seem to really dig the halfpipe moves.
"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess
Home, healthy and basically happy
Yea, from what I saw and what my wife complained about they were trying some double corks in utero.
Sleep now – it will be a fond memory soon.
"Well of course, there's nothing better than being American!!!" - Ricky Americanzi, Jan. 5th, 2010
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 24, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions

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