Mark Becker Trial Live Updates @ KCRG
Opening statements began this morning, with witnesses already taking the stand. Becker is accused of shooting Aplington-Parkersburg head coach Ed Thomas last summer. He's relying on an insanity defense.
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Reading the testimony on the Live Blog really makes me sick
I hope this guy gets what’s coming to him.
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Feb 12, 2010 1:07 PM CST reply actions
Justice will be served.
And it won’t be pretty.
"I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just going to ask them where they’re going and hook up with them later." M.H.
Just so you guys know--
He’s not eligible for the death penalty. So by “fry,” I hope everyone means “lock into a cell forever.”
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Couldn't you extradite him to South Dakota?
And that’s all the humor I have for this topic. The details are too horrific, and Mr. Becker’s going to be found guilty. It’s just a question of where he ends up for the rest of his days.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Further...
If he’s found to be criminally insane, that doesn’t mean he gets to go home and play XBox. No matter what happens, society has almost certainly seen the last of Mark Becker as a free man.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Do we have any lawyers in the house?
I’m confused a bit. Becker is going away — either to prison or a secure mental facility.
But during jury selection his attorney was asking some wacked out questions.
According to the AP: Flander later quizzed potential jurors on the organization of their sock drawers, their opinions on TV host Nancy Grace and where they would like to spend a week.
Huh?
On Thursday, Flander referenced the Magna Carta, and asked potential jurors if they thought trials by water — in which the innocent drowned and the guilty lived — were fair.
I don’t know shoot about lawyerin, it just seems to me that these are not serious questions. Guilty as he may be, he deserves a competent defense. Am I wrong?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 12, 2010 1:23 PM CST reply actions
Wellllll...
The question about Nancy Grace is pretty obvious. Nancy was a former prosecutor and therefore is always looking to come down hard on the alleged perpetrator. Thus if they like or watch the Nancy Grace show it’s logical to assume that they wouldn’t be impartial when looking at Becker.
They question about trial by water was again a question in reference to someone’s feelings in regards to guilt or innocence. Trials by water presents a dichotomy, the innocent drown and the guilty live. There is no middle ground there. So while it’s obvious that Becker is guilty, he is attempting to find if the juror would consider the different levels of guilt. So: how guilty is an insane man? The juror’s obvious response would be: no, that system isn’t fair at all. The guilty should drown and the innocent should live. But again, he wants to establish that middle ground.
Voir Dire is tricky
Judges generally don’t let you flat out ask jurors their opinions on the legal system or the case, so you have to get creative.
The Nancy Grace question is common; jurors who like her or regularly watch her show are generally more prosecution-oriented (I use the same kind of question, asking each juror where they get their news; I like Fox News people, because I like conservative juries).
Sock drawer organization is new to me, but I’m guessing it’s much of the same; people with orderly drawers presumably lead more orderly lives. You want slackers and bums as a criminal defense attorney, especially when your entire case relies on the mental condition of your client.
I can’t give you an answer on the vacation thing. Could just be a way of connecting with the jurors.
The “trials by water” is a test balloon for the insanity defense. Becker is going away, whether guilty or innocent. The jurors’ responses are immaterial. She’s just putting the image in the back of their minds from the start.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 12, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 12, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Holy Hell!
I learned something today! Thanks, ghost of Steve McQueen!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 12, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
They apparently went through almost 100 people.
And, yet, I agree. This jury has to be biased from the start.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 12, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
What should the defense have done?
I have a hard time believing you could find an impartial juror anywhere in Iowa for this case.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I probably would have moved to change venue
You have a small chance of getting an impartial jury if you moved it to, say, Cedar Rapids. You also have a courthouse better equipped for the press coverage. But you’re right; Becker probably wouldn’t get a wholly impartial jury anywhere in the state.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 12, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
I can't fucking believe they didn't change venue
Though (you’ve been doing this for longer than me), do you think the Judge assumed your point (no fair jury anywhere), and thus kept the jury home so at least his peers could hear the case? Or what?
by imadirtyoldman on Feb 14, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
I would almost have to say that it would be hard to find a partial jury in the midwest.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 12, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
What kind of attorneys do we have here?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 12, 2010 1:38 PM CST reply actions
Bored ones, obviously
(I do civil litigation)
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Feb 12, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I'm only in law school
But I clerk/interterm/GET PAID PAPER for a criminal defense firm and will be going into that prestigious area of the law.
Cool.
I’m a journalist. Have any questions about my line of work and I will try to answer them as best as I can.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 12, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
Flander has been asking if Becker's hair was messy
Everyone is saying yes. Unkempt appearance is a telltale sign.
The prosecution has admitted he has a mental disorder, but is denying that the disorder led to the murder. I don’t think it’s the right tactic, because evidence like this can show he was in the throws of schizophrenia at the time.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Thought it was important that she keeps on asking if Becker was mumbling to himself prior to the shooting. As that’s obviously something normal people don’t usually do. I figured she would put a little bit more emphasis on his leaving the scene though, as again, after murdering someone doesn’t usually flee the scene slowly and calmly. Or at least a perfectly sane individual wouldn’t.
















