Lawrence W-J Speculates In Crazy Talk
by MissouriHawk on Feb 11, 2010 11:23 AM CST
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The crazy talk being that the Big Televen is in talks with the University of Texas to bring Bevo to a campus near you. LINK
Frankly, it makes perfect sense. Before the Big 12 was formed, Texas wanted to join the Big Ten. Texas politics essentially shot that in the foot, and UT, TTU, TAMU, and Baylor approached the Big 8. So, the historic WANT by Texas to be in the Big 10 is not a myth.
Obviously, the revenue they bring to the table is on par with a Penn State, OSU, etc. The travel issue is a little dicey, but let's be honest. If the Big 10 has a shot at bringing Texas into the fold, the revenue it generates will outweigh the travel/fatigue issue. This would be fantastic for the conference.
I'm still all about Missouri joining, simply because it's easier to get to a game in Columbia for me than a game in Iowa City.
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The Big 12 was forced to take Baylor at gunpoint. The powers that be in state politics were Baylor grads and wouldn’t let them have UT or A&M without Baylor. UT was forced into coupling with all these schools, very much against the will of the guys who were running things at the school. Texas pols will be the primary block to this happening, IF it ever gets to that stage. Frank the Tank has the best take on this whole shebang.
Can't mention Frank the Tank.
without the links. After reading this, it all made perfect sense. I think Texas is a HUGE win-win. I have heard some TX fans moaning about the fall weather up north, but I’m sure Tressel has a few sweatervests he can loan out.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
The weather thing
is more than a bit stupid. “Cold Weather” season (and I’m talking too cold for anyone not playing for The U), doesn’t really start until mid October. Next season Texas plays at KSU and Nebraska in that time period. Am I supposed to believe that Manhattan, KS and Lincoln, NE are significantly warmer that time of year than Iowa City or Champaign?
The rivalry thing is also overplayed. Oklahoma would obviously stay on the schedule (as they did during UT’s entire SWC existence), but don’t think the Horns wouldn’t consider dropping A&M to and every-few-years type of opponent. It’s been well-documented that UT is to surrounding schools what tOSU is to the rest of their state; they are everybody’s biggest rival while counting none of those schools as their biggest foe.
Still, this whole process of going public this early can’t help but make me think this was an intentional leak by Delany to essentially say to Notre Dame ,“this is your final chance and that door won’t be open next time because we won’t need you anymore.”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 12, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
I Don't Think ND Is Even Being Considered
They had their chance in the late 90’s and said no. Recently, the ND basketball coach came out and said that in 2003 he got a call to prepare himself for life in the Big 10 because they were going to join, possibly withing weeks. He didn’t hear anything and went back to the AD who told him that plans had changed, that wasn’t going to happen anymore.
I think ND approached the Big 10 and was told to get lost, they had their chance. I know that’s how Paterno feels, he has said so.
Anyway, the weather and travel issue for the football team is such a non-issue. It’s 4 games a year. Whoop-Dee-Do. It’s a bigger issue for all the OTHER sports but even then I think it’s pretty manageable. The amount of money at stake will buy a lot of plane tickets. Especially when the Big 10 approaches American or United about being their “exclusive carrier” or something.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
The travel is REALLY overstated
because most major schools charter planes for their “big” programs. Everyone else has to be bussed or fly major carriers. And therein lies the great expense fallacy. Flying to small airports typically is much more expensive than major airports that are exponentially father away. The process of getting a whole team to small towns in Kansas or the Panhandle of Texas is much more expensive than flying into Chicago or Detroit.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 12, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
My vote for big tweleven member?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8THGqrjUDGI
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Feb 11, 2010 2:52 PM CST reply actions
Texas politics are going to stop it from happening again
If they even think about leaving the other Texas schools behind the crazy legislature is going to throw a shit fit and threaten to pull funding, just like they did the last time they were shopping around for a new conference. It’d be great for the conference and makes sense in a lot of ways for Texas, but it will never happen.
Maybe Not
Texas stands to make over $10 Million a year extra in the Big Ten. That is a lot of damn money. Plus, Big Ten has better bowl tie ins.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Isn't $10 million a year to Texas...
like $2 million a year to Iowa. Would Iowa change conferences for that kind of money?
Also, right now, Texas has to compete with OU, and one soup du jour team (TTech a year or two ago, and a rare decent B12 North school) for consideration as the best of their conference in football. Do they really want to jump into the mix with OSU, Michigan, PSU, and a random good team (Iowa, Wisconsin, etc.)
I don’t think this move makes as much sense as some of us believe. And I will only believe that it will happen on the day it is officially announced.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 13, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
"Isn't $10 million a year to Texas... like $2 million a year to Iowa."
Um, no. Maybe to Iowa State, but not Iowa. When Northwestern makes about 150% the television revenue of the Longhorns, there’s absolutely no inferiority card to be played by BXI fans. And that’s even before the BXI shares the revenue that would come from placing the BTN in Texas.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
+1
the projected increase in television revenue for Texas would nearly double what they are currently making. And that’s AFTER a special arrangement that has those teams that play on television the most (read: Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska) walking away with a disproportionate amount of money than the other conference members. Clearly TV revenue is a big deal to UT.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 14, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
I Don't Know
that they look at it that way. $10 million is $10 million. Also, it’s important to remember that that is the low end of the estimate. It could be $20 mil or more. And that’s just TV revenue.
Over 10 years this could be pushing a quarter of a billion dollars difference.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
IF Texas were to consider joining the Big XI
the key question, aside from the politics, is what would happen to Oklahoma and A&M. Texas cares fuck-all for the rest of the Big XII, but would insist on something to keep those two rivalries going.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
They would just
schedule them as non-conference. Which is what they did with OK for the first 70 years or so of the rivalry. That would leave them with 2 free non-conference dates which is what they had for a long, long time. It’s not ideal, and I certainly see the attraction for them being in the same conference as OK, A&M & Tech….. but I don’t see it as being a deal breaker. USC, MSU, & Mich all play ND every year. We have Iowa State, Florida has Florida State, Georgia-Ga Tech. There’s a lot of that kind of stuff.
I did read an interesting post about how TX likes playing so many Texas teams because it lets them dominate in-state recruiting when they kick everbody’s ass, and they don’t want the Big Ten to have a door into Texas, and I think that would be a bigger hurdle. Nothing the Big Ten can do about that though.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
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