DJK Arrested For Drug Possession
by JHook on Dec 7, 2010 8:17 PM CST
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Per Mas Casa:
http://thegazette.com/2010/12/07/johnson-koulianos-arrested-for-drug-possession/
Just when you think a bad season can't get any worse, something like this happens"
From the article:
IOWA CITY — Iowa wide receiver Derrell Johnson-Koulianos is being held in Johnson County Jail and is expected to make an initial appearance in the morning, according to a Johnson County Jail officials.
Johnson-Koulianos was arrested by Iowa City Police and faces multiple counts of possession of controlled substances, keeping a drug house and two counts of unlawful possession of a prescription drugs.
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Un-fucking-believable
You can never really expect these things but… DJK?!? I’m at a loss.
Belay my last.
by steaming_pile_of_awcrap on Dec 7, 2010 8:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm not surprised by it being DJK
I could never decide whether he was just eccentric and not a fit with the culture the coaches wanted or a headcase. Now I’m definitely leaning to a side.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Great just great.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Well, I feel foolish
Kirk knew more than we thought he knew. I’m still a second and even third guesser at heart. But apparently the kid is not as clever as we all (or many of us) thought. This is going to really cost him a great deal…a great deal.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Yeah, what you said
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
You would have thought
well, I would have thought, that DJK was smarter than that. Just sad.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Not the note I'm sure he wanted to go out on.
Everybody makes mistakes, lets hope this embarrassment sets him on a better path in life.
When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel
Based on what it says in the article
I doubt Kirk knew the extent of what was going on or DJK might have faced worse consequences that he did. He probably just thought he had a pot head on his hands.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Yeah, I agree.
If Kirk knew the whole “drug house” thing and buried it we have bigger problems.
by HawkeyeRecon on Dec 7, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Cuase everyone tells their parents
All their team mates dirty secrets
That's what scariest about the whole deal.
Also the fact that other players could go down in this shit hole… fuuuuck.
Not defending, because I have no knowledge of this particular situation, but "drug house" is a stupid and vague charge due to the way the law is written.
He may have had what you think of when you hear/see the term “drug house”… or it could mean he and a friend were smoking some pot when the cops came in… or it could mean any number of things in between, up to and including that DJK was actually LIVING in a house made out of crack rocks, quaaludes and vicoden held together with a hashish mortar.
Point being, it was stupid of DJK to put himself in or even near this situation, but until I hear damning evidence I’m not going to condemn the guy for what may be behavior that I engaged in during college.
…but god DAMN!
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like
it has something to do with living in a house where you know drugs are sold but doing nothing to stop or avoid the criminal activity. So even if he wasn’t selling the shit himself he still knew it was going on. And by not reporting it he was helping maintain the drug dealing in his home.
We should probably ask one of the many lawyers that infest the sbnation boards for a real explanation of what this means, but for now I’m assuming it’s something along those lines.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 7, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Well that's what I get for not reading the link right away.
Nobody wanted to mention the coke up above?
Fucked up.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
He doesnt have the talent of Percy Harvin to overcome this....
I guess Captain Killjoy was just trying to help.
SMA is right…this cost a great deal…..
I’ll take 7-5 and shut up now…
This is like genital warts… You don’t know what or how bad it is below the surface….
Hey, Percy Harvin suffers from migraines!
/mostly not serious
by Midnight Rambler on Dec 7, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Unrelated - but if Harvin signed with the 49ers
Could he get a prescription for pot and would the NFL have to be fine with it?
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 7, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
No. Employers do not have to be fine with it.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
But they usually are pretty cool with it...
…after you give them some Grandaddy Kush Brownies.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Second on this.
How much Ferentz knew, we’ll never know. But he was on to something, I suppose. God damn it. Now I have to admit to being wrong. Fuuuuuuuu—-
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
I wrong on steroids.
Kirk made such a big deal about his mouth, I never suspected the nose.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Can I still by Mizzou at +1?
That sounds like quick money
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Not surprised at all
I had heard about this a couple years ago, but thought he wasn’t doing it anymore. I know of several of his teammates who wouldn’t hang out with him because of his recreational habits.
pfffft
Probably just weed. Is that still illegal in Iowa?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 7, 2010 9:09 PM CST reply actions
Nevermind.
Don’t think they have medical coke yet….
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 7, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
medical coke? is that anything like new coke?
Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Dec 7, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Sort of...
Except people actually want medical coke.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
You used to get medical coke for nasal surgery
opens up the passages. Liquid form, so I’m told
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
depends on your opinion of ADHD drugs...
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
delicious
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 7, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Not sayin, just sayin.
Investigators found more than $3,000 in cash, marijuana, cocaine and prescription drugs in the house, police said.
When you have cocaine and $3,000, it’s usually not because you were tootin’ that blow yourself.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I'd heard rumors about someone on the team being a cocaine user
but it wasn’t DJK..yikes…
"Johnson-Koulianos also allegedly had electronic media showing him in possession of drugs."
If there are pictures of him with cash in his mouth…I give up.
http://hawkcentral.com/2010/12/07/iowa-football-djk-arrested-on-drug-charges/
From your link...
They found marijuana, cocaine, and prescription drugs in DJK’s bedroom, all of which he admitted using, and for which his urine tested positive. Police also say they found electronic media (computer) with photos of DJK in possession of drugs.
Rumor from the hoopyball thread was that the photos also showed other football players doing drugs. Names were mentioned, but it seems appropriate to hold back on that pending evidence of such.
Apparently DJK WAS with The Program
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 7, 2010 9:21 PM CST reply actions
FFFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck me
I thought DJK was one of the good guys? Christ on a crutch.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 9:22 PM CST reply actions
Yeah... So I'm like 95% sure I went to high school
with the other guy that was arrested, doesn’t suprise me at all.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
roommate
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
by White Lightning on Dec 7, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
DJK admitted to the police that he'd been using the drugs they found?
Dude needs to watch some Law & Order and learn about the right to remain silent.
According to the article he admitted to using marijuana.
A small bit of marijuana was allegedly found in his room.
He has a roommate and I’m guessing the $3000 and coke and pills were found in his room.
Even if DJK just gets possession misdemeanor
I think his draft status is toast. I’m pretty sure the NFL guys will take KF’s word that the guy is not ready for prime time.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
What a massively disappointing turn of events.
Remember the footage of him with his parents on senior day?
I see no way for him to get drafted at this point.
If it were just marijuana he may fall a round or so. The cocaine probably pushes him out completely. Mindblowingly bad decision.
by The Mexican't on Dec 7, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
HEY-OOOOHHHHHH!!
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Eh...
Morehouse reports DJK is also accused of selling “large amounts” of marijuana.
Also, marijuana, coke, and prescription drugs were all found in DJK’s room, and he admitted to using all of them.
The selling was the roommate
your second point stands, though
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
HawkeyeRecon...
In another article it said that he admitted to using the cocaine after they found residue in his room, and he also tested positive for that. It might have been a Gazette article that had been updated since it was first posted.
Either way…DJK FAIL.
by LoveItOrLeaveIt on Dec 7, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like he was pretty high when they barged in on him...
it’s sounds like a fucking episode of COPS was going on there.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
He apparently was doing drugs recently
Because his urine tested positive for a rainbow of drugs.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
In the hyper insular world of college football, where guys have to clock in for everything
I would assume that coaches knew this, particularly the strength coach. But he’s an adult with rights…
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
There there's Brian
who probably had a clue or two
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
That'll be an awkward conversation...
But it’s also an awkward place to be at for Brian…rat out your friend to your coach (who is your dad as well?) That’s assuming they ARE friends, and that he knew.
by InebriatedHawk on Dec 7, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Do we mean James Ferentz?
Or is there some Brian I should be thinking of?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:02 AM CST up reply actions
True.
But a place on the Iowa football team is not one of those rights.
I meant that Kirk couldn't Minority Report the whole thing
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Not sure but
I think drug testing at the college level is random. At least it was for the non-revenue sport I was on back in the day. not sure if they can even do targetted testing unless someone fails a random. Either way, I think it’s likely Kirk & Co suspected something like this was up if DJK was showing up to stuff high or coming down, but they may not have been able to prove it. This would explain all the extra rules for DJK over the years, but if you can’t prove something like that you can’t really boot him from the team.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 7, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
No idea what the rules are
but it wouldn’t surprise me if the team can dictate them taking one if they have “cause”, since they’re paying the scholarship. Most jobs can do that.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
showing up high would be cause for a test
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
I have heard...
that non-football/basketball sports may get tested pretty often. This may mean that schools can somehow manipulate who gets tested to decrease the chances of positive tests.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe
But don’t you think he refrained during the season at least? Since this season went south, I could see him firing this bullshit up again.
To be honest
no. At least not on the painkillers.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
It gets worse...
Morehouse story now says the police report accuses DJK of selling “large amounts” of marijuana.
I saw that.
There are only a few things that could make this worse, gentlemen, and a kidnapping cartel is one of them.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Yeah, but "cartel" is such a cool word.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Did you know it means poster in Spanish?
I know?
/Craig Ferguson’d
/jazz hands
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
little boys from Uganda are also not something that we need to see in Morehouse's next update
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Oh, by the by, new line for Iowa football:
“This still isn’t as bad as Cam Newton and his father.”
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Now I'm seeing Wegher as a hero
for keeping his shit out of the locker room.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Count me in the camp who believe that this is just an extension of the entire team being arrogant.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Well
You never know. He could’ve conceived a child there.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
CORRECTION
Apparently it was “Johnson” – DJK’s roommate, who has an unfortunately confusing last name – who is accused of selling large amounts of weed. NOT DJK.
Unfortunately it’s still true that DJK admitted to / tested positive for using weed and cocaine.
"Unfortunately it’s still true that DJK admitted to / tested positive for using...cocaine."
Well, now you know why DJK seemed to be the only Hawkeye who was fired up for the Gopher game.
/rimshot
//Seriously, a dumb move on DJK’s part, even if he wasn’t dealing. Weed is something my libertarian self could let go, but cocaine use is something else, even if he had nothing to do with the dealing allegedly going on in the house.
My opinion doesn’t matter, but the opinion of NFL coaches and GMs sure as hell does.
by Midnight Rambler on Dec 7, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
As was mentioned in the other thread...
He said that the painkillers were “from his friends.” Um….how bad do you think this is gonna get??
by InebriatedHawk on Dec 7, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
That just sounds like a lie.
Now, the “drug house” thing…not a lie. Also, bad.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
This has the potential to be a huge shitstorm
I hope his “friends” were just a throng of jersey-chasers.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 7, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
Jersey-chasers? As in Clayborn this year?
/too soon
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
The team has doctors
who prescribe pain killers as needed. That’s just standard BCS football stuff. I can see players giving each other a few. The real question is, how much.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Here's my fear
It sounds like his roommate was selling, not DJK. However, he’s a guy from Ohio. Lots of kids from Chicago around, and obviously other states represented on the team. I could see this crossing state lines very quickly.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I don't get the geographical implications.
by LoveItOrLeaveIt on Dec 7, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Come on -
O-HI-o?
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's meaning the possibility of interstate drug trafficking.
That, or how people from Illinois and Ohio are drug dealing and using heathens.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Jerks from Illinois always ruin everything.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:09 AM CST up reply actions
I took that to be his roomate
his last name is Johnson. I think Morehouse refered to DJK as Johnson-Koulianos not just Johnson.
I think you're right. According to the Morehouse:
“Johnson-Koulianos faces six charges: four counts of possession of controlled substances, two counts of unlawful possession of prescription drugs and one count of keeping a drug house.”
I hereby nomnate “keeping a drug house” as the worst non-killing criminal charge in the history of Iowa football.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
"keeping" a drug house?
is that like cleaning it up and making sure it doesn’t leak and shit? That’s some serious commitment.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
It's the hot new show
on HGTV
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Dec 7, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Cedric everson and Abe Satterfield
Have a bone to pick with you
by somerandom on Dec 7, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm afraid to ask, but...
…does Iowa Football have someone in its history with a “killing” criminal charge?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Does Mongo count?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's Brady Johnson
It looks like they’re talking about the other guy when they mentioned selling “large amounts” of marijuana. I could be wrong though, there are too many Johnson’s in that article.
I have no words.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
Noted.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Dually?
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Sure, why not?
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
YES!
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
dammit
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Tired.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
I genuinely wasn't sure what was going on there.
I get it now.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
I thought we were talking about 1 ton trucks.
Now I am really confused.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Can I trade that in for a recruiting class of WR that turn out felony free?
Maybe a case of Natty Light? I’m not asking much for it.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing wrong with Natty.
Not much right with it either though, beyond “cheap”.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Riposte?
Is that like when you post something twice?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Riposte?
Is that like when you post something twice?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd
I find Eyeheart extremely funny
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Four Krustys!
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
hahaha this comes from the guy whose FB status at one times was...
“Man I love Wiz Khalifa but all he does and talks about is drugs.”
Fuck it! FREE DJK!!!!! WHOSE MAKIN SHIRTS??
- Davey Dave
Uh, everybody, don't read the comments section of the Gazette story.
It’s getting ugly in there.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
I headed right over there as soon as i read your post
drawn like a moth to the flame
I'm waiting for that guy to reveal the truth behind the Kennedy assassination next.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
It was the guy from Black Ops!
They have pictures to prove it!
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Ah, to harken back to the old days and the "Three message boards" rumor guy.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
No real surprise
the message boards have got to be melting down too
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
There is one logical thing in there
I wouldn’t be surprised either if every single player were drug-tested tomorrow, if they haven’t been recently.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Completely agreed
And it scares the living bajeesus out of me. That, in itself, should raise alarm.
by InebriatedHawk on Dec 7, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
It also wouldn't surprise me if they were tested regularly anyway.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
That may even be worse....
Then we could say either they were not tested ENOUGH…or that the coaching staff knew the entire damn time.
by InebriatedHawk on Dec 7, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
this
They would never drug test the whole team at once. And I mean NEVER. They don’t want to know that much. No team wants to know that much. Plus it kills their deniability.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 7, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
all teams are
randomly drug tested. that’s how the ncaa rolls
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 7, 2010 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
And they know in advance.
Just sayin. (That’s how it works when millions of dollars are on the line.)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
There's that
I’m pretty sure that my coach back in the day looked at the sheet with the names of the random targets for the week and said “Well that guy won’t pass.” Then he pointed at me and said “I know you just pissed in a cup last month, but guess what… You get to go again.”
What can I say? I was boring in college.
And yes, that stuff happens.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 8, 2010 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
well come on people....
Ferentz and KOK havent been fond of DJK for a while… there must have been signs of off the field issues and they were right. I sucks he passed Timmy D now in the Iowa record books…
- Davey Dave
He passed Timmy D because he worked hard and performed on the field.
What sucks is how his off the field activities are going to tarnish his accomplishments.
true... not everyday you have a WR that benches 450... im sure hes clean of roids too...
School records are BS, it you get 4 years of solid playing time you will set records…
- Davey Dave
Iowa football 2010: Death offers no escape.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
It just means we'll appreciate the MNC in 2012 all the more.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
After the end of the world, right?
/2012’d
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
False
We will be going to our second straight MNC and die before it. We can win one in 2012.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 8, 2010 1:16 AM CST up reply actions
I think we can still have a 2013 MNC game
It’ll just have to be in the Himalayas after they sink towards the ocean and become the new tropics. And we’ll have to hitch a ride with that Russian billionaire.
"You think you can take me? Go ahead on. It's your move." -- Thomas Jefferson Geronimo III
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 8, 2010 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
We can still win the Jan 2013 MNC
They just need to install field turf on John Cusack’s boat. Because everything else will be under water.
I don’t think the Himalayas will work though. Big Ten game day weather is famous for being cold. But not that cold.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 8, 2010 1:55 AM CST up reply actions
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"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Wow, sorry to read that
I just thought DJK was a free spirited kid that Ferentz didn’t understand. Square peg/round hole axiom.
Hope DJK figures it out before it’s too late, if it already isn’t.
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"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."
Yeah, that's what we all thought, too.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
If he avoids serious jail time
he could get into the NFL for 2012. It’s funny how they overlook just about anything if you can play at a high level.
My guess is he strikes a deal, does about 6 months and that’s about it.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Assuming little to no jail
he just fell to free agency at best. The draft is over for him.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 7, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Well, let's get that next shoe a droppin'...
I’m pretty sure the next development will be during a KF presser wherein he pulls off a mask Scooby Doo style revealing himself to be Osama Bin Laden and he takes a shit on the American flag in front of everyone.
no but stanzi does like his WEED or thats the rumor anyways.
i have heard that a couple times.
- Davey Dave
Was it on at least three message boards?
Because if not, then it isn’t true.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
And he would have gotten away with it too
if it weren’t for those nosey kids.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Can Ferentz force the entire team to take a drug test?
Is that in his power? I could care less about guys smoking some weed, but if there is widespread coke use we are in some serious shit and Ferentz needs to drop the hammer, bowl be damned.
I was under the impression up till now that random drug tests were a part of ncaa football
I was wrong?
If this thing is multiple players
then how is that possible? I worked at major university in NYC for years and oversaw 1100 students in my college and I knew within a day if someone was doing crazy shit. I knew everything. People talk. And that’s NYC…with all it’s distractions. In Iowa City if your coach doesn’t know when one of 120 guys, who you spend 6 days a week with…including travel, is “keeping a drug house,” then what the fuck does he know? Squat.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
if its more then two or three players
we may have to take a seriously hard look at ferentz. a really hard look.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 7, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
If there are a bunch of coke addicts on the football team, how can you justify NOT questioning Ferentz?
Do you think Ferentz would honestly go through the trouble of holding back DJK from interviews yet let a known drug issue exist on a team of his? C’mon let’s not all lose our senses here.
I agree.
But depending on the number of players who are involved with this, I don’t think Kirk can necessarily wash his hands of this.
People need to settle the fuck down.
And wait for actual news to come out before jumping to wild conclusions.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It's understandable
we’re all disappointed, depressed etc beyond all belief and aren’t exactly sure what to say.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure.
I meant that more in general than as a specific response to you.
Right now the only hard evidence we have is that DJK is in some deep, deep shit. As more gets revealed (or not), we can go from there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, that's a lot of IF.
It’s a big team, but it isn’t like half the team muled coke back after the Orange Bowl. Kids (especially high level high school athletes) do coke these days (it’s like the 80s all over again). I think it’s stupid… but nobody asks ME before they start snorting which limits my effectiveness.
I’d be surprised (honestly) if there weren’t 5-20 (at least occasional) cocaine users on every single BCS football program in the country. It’s out there.
Also, if these stories have been out there for two or three years (as I’ve seen mentioned) and DJK is just now getting busted for it, he’s done a great job of staying low key enough to stay off the ICPD radar (y’know, those guys who love to harass 65 year old ladies for carrying beer and taser Iraq War Veteran students… and who LOVE to arrest student athletes at every turn). So if those RUMORS are true, then people may have known, but I’d guess it isn’t as ugly as you may be envisioning.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If Butch Davis can keep his job
Ferentz would have to be INVOLVED in the whole drug thing.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
After being so incredibly wrong about something..
I admire your deadfast determination to get right back out there and starting throwing stuff around. Lesser people might take a step back.
by DisplacedHawkeye82 on Dec 8, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Let's Not Get Crazy
This news sucks. But so far we have one guy busted, and rumors of two more being photographed possessing or using drugs. Now we’re speculating on wide spread cocaine use, a football player drug ring, and who knows what else.
So before it gets really nuts, I’m outta here. Don’t run a bulldozer through Kinnick or anything.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Dec 7, 2010 10:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I heard there was a satanic cult and ritual sacrifice. It was on a message board somewhere.
by HawkeyeRecon on Dec 7, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Wegher is the ring leader.
He’s actually Satan. I saw this WITH MY OWN EYES.
by SallyMason on Dec 7, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
He's gameplanning for MSU?
Wait. No. That’s Saban.
My bad.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
The "child" in question
is actually Damian, conceived in a ritual designed to bring forth the Anti-Christ. And the Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergers funded the whole thing
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
With the reverse vampires on lookout duty
"You think you can take me? Go ahead on. It's your move." -- Thomas Jefferson Geronimo III
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 7, 2010 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
Wegher's new kid is named Damian!
/not really’d
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions
I liked this.
Not because I myself am breathing into a brown paper bag, but because you’re right overall. While rampant dejection can and will accompany a story like this, it should be tempered.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Who else was photographed with drugs?
Please fill me in on all the filthy rumors, asap.
by LoveItOrLeaveIt on Dec 7, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Haven't heard yet
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2010 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
on game thread
Bryce Carlson said: “Might include A-Rob and McNutt”
Also said that KF supposedly told A-Rob not to follow DJK’s path.
Bad news comes in threes
does the hippy thing count as one?
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 7, 2010 10:09 PM CST reply actions
If that's the trifecta
Fine with me. I just don’t want this current situation getting any worse.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 7, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
Don't leave out the possibility of another trifecta.
As long as it’s divisible by three…
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Jewel Hampton
27 is divisible by three and that has just been bad all around so far.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
i think its pretty clear
the number 3 hates iowa. Wegner, Hampton, DJK, all divisible by 3.
AIRBHG was just a cover! he took a break so the Angry Divisible By Three Hating God could get some intern time in! NOOOOOOOO
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 7, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
That would explain Stanzi's ankle injury last year.
Some combination of ADBTHG and the Wizgerald.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
We're brilliant.
Let’s destroy the number three. Sesame Street better watch the fuck out.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Sash, Davis, Hyde, Hampton
you are all kicked off the team next year for superstition.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
This has Wizgerald’s stench all over it. We’re gonna need to hire Gandalf as our new OC to deal with his shenanigans. On the plus side, Gandalf knows his way around a ground attack. On the down side, he’s addicted to the Halfling’s leaf, and we don’t need any more junkies on this team.
"You think you can take me? Go ahead on. It's your move." -- Thomas Jefferson Geronimo III
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 7, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
Guys
THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS MEANT BY BREAK THE ROCK
sincerely
Iowa Football PR.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:19 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Best.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't realize this at first but,
the 2006 recruiting class had 2 wide receivers and one player recruited as an athlete. They were Dominique Douglass, James Cleveland, and Derrell Johnson-Kulianos.
I think we can chalk this one up as a failure.
For what, allegedly doing drugs and hating hippies?
Give me a break, Stoops.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Uh, you read it backward...he claimed it was an awful class
although I’m not thrilled with his hippie comments.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Ah, okay. Mea culpa.
That class also had Clayborn, Edds, Hunter, Donahue, Klug, Morse, Spievey, Tarp, and Vandervelde. I’d agree that calling it a failure is a bit much.
I think the hippie comments were stupid but also blown way out of proportion (what’s new there).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Peanut Butter has its ups and downs.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
I also believe in purple. Good call
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Once again, as above, I think I'm coming off misconstrued here.
I think we can chalk up the WR portion of this class as a giant ass failure off the field.
Misconstrued? On the interwebs? That never happens...
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Are you kidding?
It happens all the time. Wow. Someone needs to get with it.
/don’t hit me
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Did you just call me a Nazi?
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
If the goose-step fits, Adolf...
/Godwin’s Law’d
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well
He was right about useless hippies like this Derrell chap, wasn’t he?
Stanzi 4ever.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 8, 2010 7:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to go throw up
Take some Xanax to get some sleep, and wake up hoping all of this was a nightmare.
It is a nightmare...trust me.
As if this team any less reason to care about a bowl game.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Any chance Fitzgerald planted it?
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:22 PM CST reply actions
I don't see Fitzy finding a supplier to set this up
the guy is like Richard Simmons without curly hair
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Anything to completely fuck Iowa
They may find a fighting KOK ring in KF’s basement. I mean the guy has to have some uses right?
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
guess we all now know who designed this...
by WhiteMagic on Dec 7, 2010 10:23 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
Wowzers.
That is excellent.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 7, 2010 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
You win the BHGP corner of the interwebs this evening.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And with an apropos username to boot!
Who woulda thought when you joined last March that “WhiteMagic” would be so prescient in regards to the 2010 Hawkeyes?
That, my friends, is the very definition of serendipity
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
It'd be funnier if that logo hadn't actually happened.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 8, 2010 7:45 AM CST up reply actions
What really sucks is that Iowa beat UNI in basketball today
and i cant sit back and enjoy it because one of my favorite players did this. he only needed to be cool for 6 months and he was set
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 7, 2010 10:24 PM CST reply actions
this, THIS
sigh we beat a team that BEAT KANSAS last year…and made a helluva run in the tourney…and it doesn’t seem to register even. oh well. Congrats to the hawks on a good win.
by InebriatedHawk on Dec 7, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Hey
If this was MSU he’d be practicing Thursday.
/sorry if this joke has been said. Didn’t read through all comments.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:29 PM CST reply actions
and playing Friday or Saturday.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
to soon?
….yeah probably too soon
by FloydofRosedale on Dec 7, 2010 10:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Nah
its only too soon if the picture isnt halarious
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 7, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I loved it.
and rec’d it.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
Once the photoshops begin I'm outta here.
Good night, DJK. I wanted you to succeed most of all.
[hears footfalls leaving] … [door slams]
But seriously
This is absolutely heartbreaking. I keep thinking of the photo of him hugging his mom on senior day and how devastated she must be.
by Luke SkyRecker on Dec 7, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I am not afraid to admit
I cried when I saw that.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
First thing I thought when I heard the news
was how awful this must be for his parents.
"Your shit's weak! Shit's weak!"
by rinseandrepeat on Dec 7, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
I totally thought about football first.
Not gonna lie.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
My first thought was "THIS is your breaking news, BTN?"
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 8, 2010 7:46 AM CST up reply actions
Pretty sure he got the habit from hanging with Kutcher
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
Didn't Indiana hire a head coach from Oklahoma once before?
how’d that work out?
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
How will this affect the Fulmer Cup standings?
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 10:40 PM CST reply actions
Not at all.
Off-season doesn’t start until after the bowls.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So any pending stuff dependent on the "social media" involved...
That lands on us is probably going to make the list. Ugh.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Retroactive offenses don't count, either.
Everyone starts fresh on Jan. 11.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Dammit, I just got home from the UNI game in a good mood
to find this. Just when we seemed to have a clean program after the last rash of offenses. I hate learning I’ve been cheering for a kid who thinks he’s above the law-he seemed so smart when he did give interviews, I’m kind of at a loss.
"You think you can take me? Go ahead on. It's your move." -- Thomas Jefferson Geronimo III
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 7, 2010 10:40 PM CST reply actions
I still like him.
He made a mistake and will pay for it.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
I guess.
Pretty big fucking mistake though. I shoplifted when I was like 12; got caught, scared straight. Got into some recreational herbals of my own in high school, but got most of my jackass behavior out of my system before I got to college, when I realized no one would be there to bail my ass out if the law got involved. By the time you’re a legal adult you should realize illegal activities have real consequences.
I guess I should concede that his upbringing was much, much worse than mine for much of his life. To come out of the situation he was in, it was against all odds that he even got out this far and didn’t just end up dead or something. I do hope he learns from it and makes something of himself on or off the field. I still think he can, with his charisma and intelligence; like I said, I’m at a loss that he wasn’t smart enough to see this possibly happening.
"You think you can take me? Go ahead on. It's your move." -- Thomas Jefferson Geronimo III
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 8, 2010 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
with you on a philosophical level, but I can’t help but feeling like Eyeheartfreedumb. There is no logical basis for my feeling this way, but I’m not really all that bothered by DJK doing drugs. A lot of college (and grad school) kids do these same things, and many, many successful adults. This is not to excuse or condone what DJK’s done in any way; but in my mind, at least, there is a world of difference between being a recreational (or even habitual) user, and being a dealer. From what we know so far, it looks like DJK was the former rather than the latter even though he put himself in a bad situation by living with someone who might have been dealing.
None of this is meant to imply that I don’t believe that DJK shouldn’t be punished for his actions. He absolutely should be, he broke the law, and the repercussions will likely be quite severe. He has no one to blame but himself for this. I just have a hard time condemning him for doing something that I imagine a shockingly high percentage of his peers (college kids) also engages in. Again, that said, DJK broke the law and will (and should) have to pay the consequences.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
And if he hadn't been living with a dealer,
he probably wouldn’t be in all the trouble he’s in now. Cops don’t usually do busts on your average user’s house.
by LoveItOrLeaveIt on Dec 8, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
You guys are right.
If you kill a hooker in the forest, and her screams don’t make a sound because her lungs are filled with blood, did it really happen?
/relativism’d
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Who told you about my weekend?
But I’m not sure how relativism comes into it.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
If it's in the forest (and if you're not a total fucking amateur)
her lungs’d be filled with dirt and rotting leaves waaaaaaaay before they could fill up with blood.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 9, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
One results in a dead prostitute, and the other results in an increased heart rate for an individual...
I can clearly see the parallel.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 9, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
I know my heart rate usually picks up a bit
when I’m killing a prostitute. Don’t know if that’s the coke or the adrenaline rush I get from doing it though.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
All joking aside
This really broke my heart. After reading that article about his upbringing in the Gazette’s preview I thought he was going to be the feel good story of Hawkeye football history, My brother said after the Michigan game that this kid should be dead or on the streets but is now instead the greatest receiver in Iowa history. I fell in love with this kid’s heart, determination and all out love for this Hawkeye team. Very disappointing end to a career that may never be duplicated again. Goodbye DJK. I will miss you despite all this.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 10:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Same here.
I thought I was pretty bummed, until I told my wife. A transplant from SEC land, she loves everything Hawks and Ferentz. I’m not 100% sure that she wasn’t close to tears.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 7, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I bet my mom was
I’m pretty sure DJK became her hero and that’s a pretty hard thing to do considering she swore up and down that Dallas Clark was forever her hero. Just a sad day in Iowa football.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 7, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Stick with Dallas.
Everyone has faults. Not everyone does narcotics.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:26 AM CST up reply actions
i couldn't agree more... this is a young man who obviously went off the path and needs more...
guidance. This is a young man who need help and not critics. He has enough issues and doesn’t need sad fans being an extra monkey on his back. I truly wish him the best and i hope he gets the help he needs.
- Davey Dave
Don't get me wrong.
I liked DJK and I truly hope he figures his shit out, but it’s ridiculous to say people shouldn’t criticize someone who behaves like this. If what you mean to say is that fans shouldn’t bitch and moan as if his actions have somehow impacted their lives personally, then I agree with you. Any fan who is delusional and egocentric enough to think they have personally been harmed by this should definitely get smacked up-side the head and sent to the corner. This is about DJK. Not the program (hopefully) and not any of us. But it’s also a damn shame to see someone waste talent and opportunities. So if you’re saying we shouldn’t criticize him for what he’s done then I can’t disagree with you more.
Obviously, he needs help, but you can only help someone who wants to be helped. College athletes have access to all kinds of resources from tutoring to drug counseling. And let’s not forget that a free ride at a good school goes a long way towards bettering your situation. If that’s not getting help then I don’t know what is.
I don’t think DJK’s problem is a lack of help. I think his problem is not taking advantage of that help. And if his situation turns out to be as bad as it sounds then what he needs now is to face the consequences of his actions and get his shit together. Call it tough love or whatever, but anyone who is given the kind of opportunities he has and then pissed all over them deserves our criticism.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 8, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know.
Any fan who is delusional and egocentric enough to think they have personally been harmed by this should definitely get smacked up-side the head and sent to the corner.
While I agree that as adults, none of us were personally harmed, there were a lot of kids who looked up to DJK. Like it or not, he was a role-model. There are going to be some tough conversations between parents and kids, explaining why they’re favorite Hawkeye is all over the news. This might be a bit of hyperbole, but I think to say it’s completely unrealistic would also be false.
Like I somewhat said
DJK embodied what “never give up” means. It was hard not to look up to the guy. He was smooth, fun and when it came down to it one of the best fucking football players I have ever had the privilege of watching. I definitely looked up to him and goddamnit this is not the way I wanted him to go out.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 8, 2010 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
I agree.
I remember as a kid how devastating Chris Street’s death was on me. This is obviously not comparable by any stretch of the imagination but as a kid you grow incredibly attached to certain players and when things happen to them it hurts.
This
is kind of like the whole Big Ben cases. I loved the guy and thought he was a damn good ball player. I was very disappointed to hear about the problems he has had but I still think of him as on of my favorite pro athletes.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 8, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not personally affected by this...
but anyone who rapes people (some former Hawk players), or sells drugs/openly lives with drug-pushers, deserves all criticism they get.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
Oh no doubt
I was just going on the fact that it is soul crushing to hear about something like this. I don’t condone anything people do like this just because I like them.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 8, 2010 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
Forgive my mis-communication.
I wasn’t really disagreeing with you, Sash. My comment was aimed at dtnordgren’s original comment.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
That's alright
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 8, 2010 1:33 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
My point was more about people needing to keep things in perspective. DJK’s personal life is not even really our business. That being said, he is in the public eye so his actions will come under public scrutiny and criticism. And I think it’s totally fair to criticize his actions especially considering he and other athletes are role models for kids. Now we have to watch him go from being a role model to a cautionary tale.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 8, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
Very poor decisions by him
that have cost him a draft spot and likely an NFL future. The real test of his upbringing and where the story goes from here is if he learns and turns it around. Hopefully he redefines himself and becomes better, and doesn’t follow a Domonique Douglass path.
If we were all defined by our worst moments, it would be a shitty life. Mine: DUI 10 years ago. I definitely learned and turned it around. Hopefully DJK does the same
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Hello past self.
Um, make more mistakes with women and less with booze. Ah, who are we kidding? I know Young Me won’t listen to advice from Old Me.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 7, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
It is the song that ne-ver ends...
….it just goes on, and on, and on…
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Okay guys and gals the next time the coach benches someone maybe just maybe we might assume the coach knows what
he is doing. Looking at the article my guess he gets no jail time assuming he did not deal. He is done as a Hawk and that is sad but make bad choices suffer the consequences.
This doesn't follow
you’re making a HUGE assumption that Ferentz knew/had good reason to suspect DJK was doing drugs. There is no indication available as of now that Ferentz had any knowledge of this; DJK’s benchings/dog-housings, etc. could be wholly unrelated to this. We simply do not know. Any attempt, at this moment, to say that this justifies Ferentz’s treatment of DJK is nothing but post-hoc rationalization.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
My friend you misunderstand my post
I don’t think Kirk had any idea DJK was doing drugs.
by nwyms Trebek! on Dec 8, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
pffffffff
Just like you thought your parents didn’t know you drank in high school?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 9, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
"Its become very clear to me that the ICPD has a strong depreciation for NC's." -DJK 06/05/2010
THE ICPD WAS AFTER HIM YOU GUYS!
by SallyMason on Dec 8, 2010 12:01 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
For those criticising Ferentz "if he knew what was going on"
He would be in an incredibly difficult position. You remember the backlash against his decision to bench DJK for the first series against Minnesota for undisclosed reasons, right? I don’t know why he did that any more than you do so I’m not going to insinuate anything other than to suggest that there was a huge backlash.
Furthermore, as several have mentioned, Ferentz is a father-figure for these kids. What did you old-man do the first time he figured out that you were looking at his Playboys? First time he caught you sneaking a Busch Light from the basement fridge? First time Mom “accidentally” washed your stash?
(Hypothetical Scenario) Now, for those of you call for the man’s job if he knew and didn’t kick DJK off the team. What would you do if you were in Ferentz’s position and in the wake of today’s incident you started to dig deeper into your players’ personal habits only to find that a Senior who stands to make millions in the upcoming NFL Draft was participating in similar activities as DJK? Kick him off the team? Suspend him for the bowl game?
Really think about how difficult of a decision that is. In particular, realize how much of a moral dilemma this would have to be for Ferentz. Next time you feel like criticizing a person who’s shoes you haven’t been anywhere near, think.
If he is a "father-type figure" to these "kids"...
then he should not feel any guilt or apprehensive-ness at all to benching them, getting them help, and eventually (in a case of repeated malfeasance) cutting ties with them.
DJK’s behavior sounds more like repeated, chosen, and criminal actions. Ferentz needs to try to get him some help once (maybe it happened earlier in his career). And after that, if DJK keeps on a bad path, cut the cord. If Ferentz can’t do that, then he should not be in a publicly-funded position that requires him to have supervision of 120+ young men.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool 72,000 of us twice, shame on us, and you, and KF.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 8, 2010 1:38 AM CST up reply actions
First of all
They were Penthouses and I was sneaking Jack Daniels from the basement cabinet not some piss-water Busch Lite. Second, the fact that Ferentz has had such issues with DJK is what makes this so alarming to me. Because clearly Ferentz knew something was up. How much he knew is the question. I would like to think Ferentz suspected more than he could prove, because that might explain why his handling of DJK was limited to a few extra rules. But if he knew everything that DJK was up to and did nothing more than keep him fom talking to the press then to me this is unacceptable. Because the correct thing to do in that situation is to remove that behavior from the team (ever heard of being suspended for an “unspecified violation of team rules”?), and I don’t care what their draft stock is. Because the second you start making allowances for your star players to live outside the rules you’re just a slippery slope away from a program where it’s ok for players to turn in pre-written essays and get paid by boosters. It may just be me but I’d rather have a clean program and be god awful then a national champion with cheaters and criminals.
Now, before any one jumps down my throat I want to make it clear that I’m not calling for Ferentz’ head at all. Ferentz is an awesome coach, and I honestly think he runs a clean program to the best of his ability. However I do think some sort of explanation is in order because he clearly knew or suspected something was up.
by HawkeyeInExile on Dec 8, 2010 1:46 AM CST up reply actions
Good Points
I’m just saying it’s not a cut-and-dried situation like many want to believe. In the book I read about John Wooden he reflects on a player on his high school basketball team who he kicked off the team because he caught him smoking a cigarette. IIRC, the kid had no other real issues but the real was made clear to the entire team at the beginning of the year and he followed through. His contemplation on the matter was for the kid personally and how it would alter the course of the rest of his life.
I don’t think the football program should be considered at all in these situations. In some cases it may be that removing the kid from the team would be to take away the most positive influence he has in his life and lead to a path of much greater destruction for him. It’s just that these are incredibly difficult considerations because you’re trying to do the best by all parties involved including the kid, the rest of the team, the university, the fans, etc.
On the other hand
Maybe Ferentz didn’t know – and had no reason to know – about anything about DJK’s transgressions befre the fact. The benching/general treatment could just as well be wholly unrelated to this, we just don’t know and you’re assuming facts not in evidence. Just because subsequent events seem to vindicate Ferentz’s position (and I’m not saying he was wrong or right), that does not “prove” that he was right to act the way he did before this.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Agreed
It’s definitely easy to imagine situations where kicking a kid off the team would be detrimental to the player’s overall well-being, but it’s also easy to slip into a pattern of enabling kids who know that they won’t be punished for infractions because they’re on a team. I think there’s a line that has to be drawn. Where that line falls I couldn’t really tell you. It would make no sense to kick a kid off the team for failing a test just like it would make no sense to ignore the problems of a kid who failed all of his tests. If a player is using drugs and hanging out with drug dealers (or doing anything that ridiculously unacceptable) that player needs to be off the team for at least as long as it takes to correct the behavior. And I don’t mean for just the sake of the football team. If a players got problems that are that severe they need to get help. Ignoring the problems does a disservice to the player as much if not more than the team.
Terrible.
I was having a great day. (My amazing wife went late to work today in order to stand in line and get me a few bottles of The Good Stuff). Now this is a huge black cloud. I still love DJK, but come on! How hard is it to not do anything illegal for 5 years? How can players continue to get in these situations? I’ll never get it. I am legitimately terrified to find out who all else was in DJK’s photo collection doing drugs.
Thank you to Urban Meyer for keeping us out of the national spotlight for this at least.
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