CHAMPIONSHIP WEEKEND NIGHT THREAD: THE DALLAS SCREWJOB
by Patrick Vint on Dec 4, 2010 6:30 PM CST
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Print(Ed. Note: We're talkin' Iowa-Michigan State wrestling in here, too. -- Ross)
All of the pro wrestling fans here know what's coming in Dallas. You can't let one of your stars -- a star you created -- leave for a rival promotion with your championship belt in hand. Ring the damn bell. Nebraska screwed Nebraska.
6:00 -- Washington at Washington St. (Versus)
6:45 -- Florida St. vs. Virginia Tech (ACC Championship, ESPN)
7:00 -- Oklahoma vs. Nebraska (Big XII Championship, ABC)
7:00 -- Connecticut at South Florida (UConn goes to BCS w/ win, ESPN2)
9:30 -- USC at UCLA (FSN)
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All kinds of people getting blasted with Cammy Cam Juice
Mmmmmmm…
Nice work CBS.
"Lighten up Francis."
I would be deeply satisfied to see Nebraska get screwed over tonight.
Go, Stoops, go.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think we need a Deal With It gif to start this thread
Cheering for inconsistent, undisciplined teams [Twins, Wild, Packers, Hawkeyes] since 1989. "False Hope is better than No Hope"
That's the stuff.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Cammy Cam Juice
Deal with it
"Lighten up Francis."
by BroncoHawkeye on Dec 4, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
FSU on the board with an early FG
I’m clearly going to win that bet…chalk it up…who wants a drink? Yesss!
I have 100+ lbs on McD and I'm still sure he would kill me.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Can someone remind me...
…how they determine what weight the meets start at nowadays? It seems like most meets start at 125 but then last night’s didn’t. Di
Did they start letting coaches decide whether to start at 125 or a random weight?
Coaches have to agree to start at a different weight.
If the coaches can’t agree which weight to start at, they do a random draw.
Yep.
For last night, you can see why ISU would not want to start at 125, given Iowa’s heavy advantage at the lighter weights. Which of course is exactly why Brands would be happy to start at 125 every meet. No agreement leads to a draw.
It was a good idea for ISU.
They got a win at 197 and were pretty close to getting another one at HWT. You never know how momentum could snowball for ISU after that… although the fact is there was no way to avoid the straight up maulings they were going to get at 125 and 133.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I agree it was a good move for ISU.
Probably would have been better for them if the draw had come out 149 or 157, though.
4-1 McD after R1
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
125: McDonough wins via FALL
Iowa up 6-0
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
stream on BTN.com is all
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ramos up 7-1 after R1
He was abusing the Sparty kid
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I just google image searched
Antonio Ramos Iowa Basketball. I give you the #4 image result…via BHGP:
Hmm, no image for me...
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ah... love seeing her.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
QUIT FUCKING BUFFERING
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Way too buff
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
157: DSJ wins via DEC, 9-7
Gave up a big move at the end of R1 (reversal + 3pt nearfall), but came back from that nicely.
Iowa won at 133 and 141 and lost at 149. Trying to get results I missed while my interwebs connection was down.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I just bought the monthly pass for December.
I’ll probably buy monthly passes for January and February for the wrestling then, too.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Do we have any "IT'S HAPPENING NOW" updates?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
Let's see...
133: Tony Ramos wins via TECH FALL (17-1) (11-0, Iowa)
141: Mark Ballweg wins via FALL in like 2 min (17-0, Iowa)
149: Osterman MAJ DEC (12-2) Jeret Chiri (17-4, Iowa)
157: DSJ wins via DEC (9-7) over Cheza (who’s ranked) (20-4, Iowa)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, good start everywhere but 149.
I’m sure Chiri’s a good kid, but that is a gaping hole in our line-up right now.
Really like the way DSJ fought back. He got a little sloppy and gave up the 5-pt move, but other than that he was damn sharp. Ramos is an animal out there. If Moore or Clark are better than him… woo. I think Ramos is going to be tough to displace with the way he’s wrestling. Really pleasantly surprised by Ballweg at 141, too.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ballweg?
It seems like I remember a Ballweg looking a little overmatched most of the time over the last couple years. Is this a younger brother perhaps? Do I remember correctly that they are out of the Waverly program?
Yep.
We actually have THREE Ballwegs. The youngest is redshirting, I believe. The oldest is the one you remember. He went at 157 as an injury replacement for someone for a while, IIRC… he struggled a lot. He was wrestling up a bit from his natural weight, but yeah, it was rough to see him out there. This Ballweg (Mark) appears much better.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I have no idea.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Correct on the balding
That is Matt and he’s been iffy. Mark has been a pleasant surprise though.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 4, 2010 8:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Matt Ballweg
Rumor is, he is cutting down to 49. Might improve the weight class some. He should be tougher at a lighter weight.
Hope so.
Nothing against Chiri (I’m sure he’s trying hard and all), but it’s tough to watch him get manhandled out there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Jesus, Oklahoma is playing with a ton of fire in this game.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I can't decide if I want Nebraska to win this game or not
It would be great for the Big Ten to get 3 teams into the BCS (kind of, I know they’re not in the Big Ten yet). But then we have to deal with NE fans coming off a Big XII title. I’m sure Delany would love to see a matchup of defending conference champs at Camp Randall next year. Actually, NE plays all three 2010 Big Ten champs next year.
Little surprised that Kerr is going at 165 again.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Bowl predictions
Seems that growing speculation puts us in the Insight Bowl. What do you all think? If Oklahoma can get its shit together and get back into this game, we could likely get an Insight Bowl matchup w/Nebraska. Do we even want that?
Fuck yeah I do
The only downside is that we’ll be going to a bowl that featured Iowa State and Minnesota last year…what?
How do you think NE would feel?
They’d be ranked in the teens, be 10-3 and playing in a bowl against a 7-5 team that featured two 7-5 teams last year.
Isn't the Insight Bowl more "prestigious" this year or something?
I think they ante’d up to raise its profile. Call me old fashioned, but the “Insight Bowl” has a pretty low ceiling on prestige.
Worst national championship game ever.
EVIL WINS AGAIN.
SOMEWHERE SWITZER IS SMILING.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
Mostly it just makes me sad
that there will be such horrific defense played on both sides in that game.
Yeah, it's going to be excruciating to watch Cam Newton and the Oregon offense.
They’re not fun to watch at all.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
For defensive minded fans
Every big play will probably be sprung by overpursuit or bad tackling and just make it infuriating, not exciting.
What, like every Iowa game from November?
Whatever. They can go jerk off to their videotapes of the 6-4 game for a while if they’re so incensed by Auburn-Oregon.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yes, pretty much
I like defense, I think it’s a good thing and I prefer 12-10 to 50-49 personally. However, I will enjoy watching these two offenses march up and down the field.
I love good defense, too.
Good tackling, solid hits… that’s great.
But Cam Newton and Oregon’s offense are just breathtaking to watch, IMO.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Personally
I don’t enjoy watching either of those offenses.
I don't really like watching these offenses...
more because it is a bunch of jerks (Cheezuk and Chipper) and cheaters (Newton and James and his RangeRover) running it, not so much a problem with offensive football.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2010 1:06 AM CST up reply actions
I don't care about the style of the game, Ross.
Oregon is owned by a bunch of people who make the college feel like a big, fake corporate shindig and their uniforms are so bad they cause me to fail to take them seriously. The uber-exciting Cam Newton’s father has admitted to trying to get a bunch of sleazy guys to pay him and everything around Mr. Newton appears to be under investigation by the FBI.
Considering that this game is also part of the BCS, I find it to be a sterling example of basically everything that is wrong with college football.
"Welcome to the PSU Salvation Army. I've never been associated with a defense so nice about giving touchdowns away." - Coach Fry, modified
by ReadingRambler on Dec 5, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
165: Jake Kerr wins via DEC (3-2)
Iowa up 23-4
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Dan Dennis and Phil Keddy sharing analysis duties on the radio
Ironside down in southern Iowa for the opening of deer hunting season, apparently.
Keddy has the makings of a good color guy.
Good insights, not afraid to be critical when called for. Doesn’t get as excited as Ironside, though.
174: Ethen Lofthouse loses via DEC, 6-5
Iowa up 23-7
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I was just messing around...
and remembering the NFL’s first ever punt-less playoff game. 2003 Kansas City Chiefs vs. Indianapolis Colts. Colts win and Kansas City’s defensive coordinator falls on the sword…any guess who it was?
LAWL
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Believe it or not, I knew that.
Only because I’m a Colts fan from birth and remember that game well: KC kept up with Indy for the first half, but with ANY non-TD-scoring possession they fell further and further behind until they lose.
Of course, I recall Indy losing to NE or Pittsburgh and that was that.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
I remember that game (really fun to watch), but had no idea who the defensive coordinator was.
I think that was a year Indy got tripped up by New England.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ooh, Gambrall and the MSU guy at 184 are getting heated.
Gambrall just drove him into the Iowa coaching seats
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Guess he chose
toughness over pooping his pants.
In the heat of battle my father wove a tapestry of obscenities that as far as we know is still hanging in space over Lake Michigan.
man, why is this not on TV?
i really wanna see that.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
It was pretty entertaining.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If I want to follow Iowa recruiting . . .
Scout or Rivals? Or are both crap and I should look somewhere else?
I prefer Rivals.
Not a ton of difference, though.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
184: Gambrall wins via DEC, 3-1
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Somebody do something with this....
I have your caption: BO NOSE
"You're going to go out there with a dick full of confidence. Then, you're going to go out there and shoot that confidence all over the stadium." -Blue Mountain State
Anyone remember the Boze's Nose commercials for Bozo the Clown on WGN?
Give him some pointy red hair on both sides, he’s already got the mouth and nose for it.
And it matches school colors.
And he already has the wild, drunken look in his eyes.
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
Nightmare fuel 101.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Bozo is the source of happy dreams, not nightmares.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Coke-induced happy dreams, you mean.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
You say that like there's something wrong with that.
(But Bozo is awesome and I’ll brook no disagreement.)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You win.
As long as episodes of Bozo and that awesome bastardized skee ball game exist, he’s still good in my book despite being creepy as shit.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Holy fuck, I just realized BRENT FUCKING METCALF is on color commentary.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
How did he do?
In the heat of battle my father wove a tapestry of obscenities that as far as we know is still hanging in space over Lake Michigan.
Yeah, he was much better than the PBP guy.
He was pretty fun to listen to, actually.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
HOLY SHIT, MARTINEZ
WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Stupid interception thrown into the endzone
A crowd had developed similar to a hail mary and he threw back across his body after escaping two would be tacklers in the backfield.
Terrible, horrible, awful decision to throw that ball where he did.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Iowa wins the dual 29-10
197: Luke Lofthouse wins via DEC
HWT: Blake Rasing loses via DEC (3-2)
Great start to the dual for Iowa. Not such a great second half.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Agreed.
That was kind of a trend all meet long.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So it was, like...
the opposite of last night.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
but MSU could have used a few. Also, new lesson for Hawkeye opponents: don’t punch Grant Gambrall.
He got punched?!
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Closed fist headslap
response: Gambrall planted him 10 ft off the mat in the middle of the Iowa bench,
Yessssss.
Video?
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
I don't have any but I am sure some will be up
I started thinking that Vint and Jacobi should start getting into Iowa wrestling if they are going to WWE-type throw downs like that.
Yeah, that was straight out of pro wrasslin' right there.
It was pretty nuts.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Vince Mcmahon
is the man. Plain and simple. I’ll fight over this.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
That
and the hand to L. Lofthouse’s face at the end of his match. Metcalf said there was quite a bit of animosity between the teams.
Yeah, there was definitely some bad blood.
I vaguely remember an incident of some sort at last year’s dual with MSU, too.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I would think
fucking with the Hawks at CHA is not something a team should find to be a good idea.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
It does seem like a poor idea.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Brands had to calm him down before the match restarted, too.
Yes, TOM BRANDS had to calm someone down.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
1:37 left in 1st half
Plenty of time for another Nebby TO and Sooner score.
by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Dec 4, 2010 8:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Woo, Mark Perry just got namechecked on the UFC broadcast.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
On the twitters, Andy Hamilton says Matt Ballweg is dropping down to 149 for Midlands.
That’s good news.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The hawks
fill that hole and the lineup looks pretty tough. I think they might be a stronger dual meet team than a tournament team right now
I agree that they're probably a better dual meet team right now.
VERY curious to see how they do in Midlands later this month, though. That should give us a much better idea where we stand as a tournament team. I like our ability to score points at 125, 133, 141, 157, and 184. I’m a little concerned about the other weights.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If Rasing can out-boring the competition
than HWT is spoken for as well.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I don't think Rasing is going anywhere.
I just don’t know how many points he can score in a tourney setting.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I really wish the Iowa staff
could bring back a guy like Hand who could actually coach Rasing and the other bigs. Kurt Backes is a Brands guy, but he’s unpaid and it remains to be seen if he can help usher in a more aggressive style in the heavier weight classes.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
We had a plenty aggressive heavyweight in Erekson.
And guys like Keddy, Lofthouse, and Gambrall are fairly aggressive. They just have trouble finishing shots sometimes.
Rasing is definitely not very aggressive, though.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Rasing got aggressive last year with #1 Roshalt from Oky St
it was one of the loudest ovations that we heard in CHA during that meet last year…and it was during a loss. I’ll agree that he doesn’t typically get too aggressive…but it’s there.
The greatest heavyweight loss in Iowa history is this. Seriously…watch it you won’t regret it. If you’re going to be lazy…at least watch Part 2 at about the 4:20 mark…you won’t be disappointed.
Well, he's CAPABLE of being aggressive.
But rarely shows it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The other thing that plays into that is that
in that match Roshalt needed a pin to tie the team score…so he was probably more aggressive than he normally is too. Rasing really started to notch it up at the end when Roshalt was probably a little gassed.
Me too.
If he can consistently wrestle like he did against Rushall last year he could do some good things. It’s getting him to actually do something on the mat that’s the hard part.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
133 is a weird weight
It’s almost like Ramos is going to get you more team points with his wins, because he is a point scorer, but Clark or Moore may beat better competition. They are all good though
Yep.
Ramos has shown the ability to DOMINATE against lesser opposition… I hope he gets a chance against some stiffer competition to see how he can do.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Goddamnit.
Of course I have to work the night of a thread where Buff Bagwell makes an appearance.
The reporter with the gatorade-bottle-turned-penis-euphemism…
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:34 PM CST reply actions
Well I'm late to the party
I decided to watch Bunny basketball get beat instead of The Big 12 championship.
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 4, 2010 9:42 PM CST reply actions
Hey, Martinez: GET RID OF THE BALL, DUMBASS
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That was pretty stupid
I guess I want Nebraska to win but it must be ingrained in me to cheer against them. I keep catching myself cheering against Big Red.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 4, 2010 10:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good night, gentlemen.
True Grit (1969) came from NetFlix. It’s been years since I’ve seen it and it’s calling my name.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 4, 2010 9:55 PM CST reply actions
HOLD ON UCONN
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 4, 2010 10:00 PM CST reply actions
And UCONN wins the Big East. HA!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
jeez, i dont know weither i want to laugh or roll into a ball
an 8-4 team is going to be in a BCS bowl……..ugh.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Someone should revoke
the Big East’s AQ status
by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Dec 4, 2010 10:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's really funny
But I also feel pretty good for those guys. They always show a lot of heart. That kid getting stabbed last year and then winning their next 4 and winning the last 5 games this season. I hope they can pull it off in the BCS
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 4, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
So does TCU roll through that conference next year?
I don’t know what they have coming back but it’ll be interesting for sure.
i dont see why they wouldnt
not that big of a leap between the Big East and Mountain West, but i dont know who they are replacing at the time either.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Most likely.
I’m not sure what they lose from this year’s team, but Patterson seems like a hell of a coach.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think the middle and the bottom of the Big East...
are probably tougher than the middle and the bottom of the Mountain West.
Obviously, the top of the Mountain West (TCU and Utah, and perhaps BYU) have probably been better than the best the Big East has had.
I could see TCU losing a couple next year, though I won’t say who until I looked at what the various teams had/have coming back. However, two losses could still allow the Frogs to win the conference and make the BCS anyway, so…
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2010 1:29 AM CST up reply actions
i forgot about that but yeah
if any team deserves it, its probubly Ucon, congrats to them for sure
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
They're either gonna draw Va Tech or the winner of this game.
So probably not great odds of winning. But definitely a nice story for them to win the league. They weren’t even FBS like 15 years ago, I think.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
it might have been this decade when they came to the FBS
i actually remember a time when they weren’t, and im 20 so it couldn’t have been that long ago. early 2000’s i believe
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 5, 2010 1:07 AM CST up reply actions
Amukamura or whatever?
I think he’s gone after this year.
Unfortunately, it sounds like Crick, their beast at DE/DT, IS coming back.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Nebraska's kicker hit a 53 yarder earlier tonight
that I have no doubt would have been good from 70…this is going to get interesting.
Re: the earlier comment about the upcoming NCG. As a football game…I find this one to be a better watch than what I expect to be a defenseless shootout in the NCG. Of course…that being the NCG gives it a little more gusto.
agreed on this being a better watch
I enjoy seeing a heavy dose of defense, which is why the Hawks killed me this year.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 4, 2010 10:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am waiting for excuses in 3....2.....1
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 4, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
THAT WAS A FACEMASK
BOB STOOPS POISONED THE WATER. CAM NEWTON SHOT MY PUPPY AND DROVE THE SPEED LIMIT IN THE LEFT LANE.
WRONG THREAD? MY BAD.
RAAAWWWRRR!!!
/runs off with pitchfork looking for Oklahoma fans and/or Cam Newton
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
I might fanshot that list I posted earlier.
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 4, 2010 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Please do.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2010 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
I would actually hate that.
Too many Nebraska friends
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 4, 2010 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Better get used to it.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 4, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
The thing is that
a Nebraska/Iowa matchup would have been the saving grace for that game had Nebby not been heading to the Big Ten next year. I still think it would make that a much bigger draw than…say…Missouri.
I'd rather see the Huskers
Than another bullshit spread offense like Missouri’s
by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Dec 4, 2010 11:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just don't know how we can motivate our fans
To travel to a good bowl. We’re all down on the team right now and we’ve been going to Florida every year. Phoenix might get some people but we were down there in September and it didn’t go so well.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 4, 2010 11:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If we didn't know we'd get them next year and every year after
a Nebraska/Iowa matchup might have been the ticket.
It would still be the first Iowa-Nebraska meeting in a decade.
I think there will be some juice to that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Plus there's the Cardinal Mooney connection
for Pelini and DJK.
OK, that’s a stretch.
by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Dec 4, 2010 11:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There are a lot of "can you imagine" scenarios this year...
but what if someone had told you before the season that Iowa would play Nebraska in a bowl game…in Pheonix…in the Insight Bowl.
I never imagined that Iowa and Arizona would both finish 7-5 after that game they had in September.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I don't think there will be as big a contingent of fans as there's been in the past...
But it will probably still be solid. There’s always people that just want to go somewhere warm. There’s always fans that want to head to a bowl. And by the time the bowl rolls around, a month will have passed — I imagine some of the negative feelings for this season will have dissipated.
The downside is that the Insight Bowl date (Tuesday, Dec. 28) isn’t exactly convenient. On the other hand, there are plenty of Iowa ex-pats in Arizona and California that would probably make the trip.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The Insight Bowl...
is actually the only possible Iowa bowl game that I might go to this year. I have a week off between Christmas and New Years, but I have to be back at work by January 3rd.
The Insight Bowl is drivable, and I should have a family friend to stay with in the Phoenix area.
At the beginning of this year, I would have been ticked off about Iowa being in the Insight. Now, and possibly against Nebraska, it could be great for me.
I was also going to say that, from an attention standpoint, it could be a good thing for Iowa to be in the Insight, because there are only two bowls that evening. But, it starts at 9 pm CT, so I’m not sure how many non-Iowans or Nebraskans would stay up to watch. Meanwhile, if Iowa made the Outback or the Gator, they’d probably be overshadowed by more high-profile bowls on Jan. 1.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2010 1:38 AM CST up reply actions
You sound like a teacher.
Isn’t the Insight Bowl the game on the NFL Network?
I think the number of DirecTV subscriptions in Eastern Iowa will skyrocket if that’s true, which means I have to go to a sports bar to watch the game.
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
(Finally), the Insight is on ESPN this year.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Praise Jebus!
I can invite my fellow teaching friends over for a mid-week party.
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
Hope so.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Agreed
I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that playing Nebraska in the bowl would motivate this team (and coaching staff) in a way no other opponent would. And that could be total BS on my part and insulting to the coaching staff and players, but . . . well, we FUCKING LOST TO MINNY. They get no benefit of the doubt right now.
I think a suitably high-profile team could motivate them.
Like, say, if they could have drawn a match-up with Alabama.
Hopefully Nebraska fits the bill.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Recipe for a Va Tech BCS appearance
Lose to Boise…lose to James Madison…steam roll the pathetic ACC. I’m kind of bummed out by this year’s college football landscape.
No one seems to be great…my suspicion is that the two teams who will be playing in the NCG happen to be the best teams from conferences that are worse now than they have been in quite some time. Wiscy vs TCU might be the most anticipated matchup of the BCS bowls and that could turn into a blowout if TCU can’t stop the run.
I think TCU will do pretty well in that game.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
TCU's
run defense came in just ahead of Iowa’s at #5…but let’s be honest they haven’t seen anybody like Wisconsin…not even close.
They haven't, but that doesn't mean that they still aren't very good.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think Wisky v TCU might be closer than many think...
and I think Wisky still might win by 14 or 21.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2010 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
did you just see the Cincy/Pitt highlight with the Bearcat getting arrested?
The only thing that could make that better is if they took off the helmet to reveal a drunken Bob Huggins.
It was in the earlier thread
Here’s a link and the best picture of the season.
http://college-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/26221618
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 4, 2010 11:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
According to SportsCenter
when they initially approached him he shoved two officers to the ground. Between this incident and the Ohio/OSU mascot fued…it might just be the year fighting mascots.
Did you all hear...
that there was a big pre-game brawl amongst fans at the USC-UCLA game at the Rose Bowl tonight? It happened in a parking lot, and involved 50 to 75 people. Two people were stabbed, and one could be in pretty bad shape. Three people were charged with attempted murder.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
Nebraska is the only team
that I think Iowa can beat this year in a bowl. Florida, South Carolina and Missouri all can throw the ball and have speed in places we don’t. Carolina would be a close second but they could also just do a Minnesota and bull rush us into a oblivion. I don’t think it matters about anyone’s defense because our offense is about a 24-27 point max offense no matter what defense. Kirk has convinced them of that (see various second half lay downs for more info…)
Nebraska is really a finesse run team.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Oh, and if Stewart Mandel's Bowl predictions hold
the Big Ten could lose everyone of those games and I would be shocked if we won more than half. Horrible match-ups across the board with three exceptions: Wisky (v. TCU), Ohio State (v. Arkansas), Iowa (v. Nebraska). I would fully expect to win no more than 2 out of 3 of those good match-up games too but more likely go 1 and 3. I think Arkansas and Ohio State can blow each other out…that is a very wild one to predict. I think TCU could take Wisconsin but I would bet Wisconsin handles them pretty easily. And Iowa? Well, we all know what could happen there.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
i dunno
it really depends on the streingth of the SEC, and who has any SEC team beaten outside of the SEC to prove how good they are? Northwestern will probubly lose without there starting QB and Michigan State got a bad draw with Alabama, but even that game is winnable.
i say we could easily win all of these bowls except the northwestern one. i especially dont think Tennessee and Baylor are better than Michigan and Illinois.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 5, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
plus, outside of the championship the SEC teams never play amazing in bowls
you think alabama is gonna be motivated to play michigan state? i have my doubts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 5, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
Not a fan of this bowl matchup
We’re essentially playing a conference game. I’m excited for next year’s NU-IA game, but not this one. We’ve already played in AZ this year as well. It’s always better to play on New Year’s day (regardless of the bowl) and always better to play an SEC team. I can’t imagine that Delaney is happy to see essentially a ‘conference’ bowl game. But we can’t complain. We’ve jumped better teams for years in the pecking order, and, of course, we lost our last game to the worst team in the conference.
Yes.
A game in Phoenix/Tempe does not help as much with recruiting as a trip to Tampa or Orlando or Miami.
As for the New Year’s Day thing, I’m not sure how big a deal that is if it’s one of the Jan 1 bowls that gets somewhat overshadowed. However, the Insight is at 9 pm CT on a Tuesday night, so that doesn’t really put us in the spotlight all that much.
Personally, I do like playing Nebraska better than I’d like playing Florida or South Carolina again.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
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