[DeVier] Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50, while [Terrelle] Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university.
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nah
Gold pants and a black heart tattoo
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 23, 2010 11:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure a lot of you know this
but the gold pants are a key chain type ornament given to Buckeye football players when they beat Michigan.
Lately, the guys on the team have had a few to spare.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Wow
How does everyone feel about this.. 5 games seems to be a massive suspension. The fact that they sold their championship ring rubs me the wrong way though so I am glad to see them get drilled for it but wow… 5 games..
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 23, 2010 11:20 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I have no sympathy for them
None. And I’ll admit it’s because I hate Ohio State and not because of an objective assessment of the situation.
Right, that’s why Ohio State fans have so much ire for this. 2-3 games is fair, while 6 games (what it was originally) is not.
Hey, any press for BHGP is good press, right?
Ann Arbor is a trollop.
That's right
troll
What's your deal?
by PCarroll_u_sm(j)irk on Dec 23, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
From what I read, the penalty by itself would have been five games: the Sugar Bowl, and 30% of next season, four more games. The NCAA cut that penalty by one game because the players were not well enough informed about the rules regarding gifts (which is BS, but they have to accept that argument after the Cam Newton case), so then they only missed four games in the 2011 season. But then the NCAA added a game back on because they didn’t admit to it once they were informed (which is reasonable). However, instead of re-suspending them from the Sugar Bowl, the NCAA suspended them for a fifth game next year against Michigan State, because the NCAA is incompetent. So, take the five game suspension, add the legit extra game added and ignore the garbage one game reduction, and you have six games.
Sorry, I wish I could bring the funny right now. This whole situation makes no sense.
Ann Arbor is a trollop.
Serious question
Are NCAA players allowed to sell their books at the end of the semester?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 23, 2010 11:23 AM CST reply actions
they would have to be
But I’m sure it would fall under the regs for gifts and services. If they were getting reimbursed disproportionately it would be the same as getting a steak dinner at Ruth Chris for five bucks
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 23, 2010 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think his question was based in the fact that their books are provided by their scholarships.
So it’s more like getting Ruth Chris for free as part of a team meal, and then selling the leftovers. Probably not cool.
by The Final Gun on Dec 23, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
What if an NCAA athlete has a laptop that was purchased by their parents
And they decide to sell the laptop and get a fair price. They can do that, right?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 23, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
So not an expert. But yes, absolutely.
by The Final Gun on Dec 23, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
So I guess I don't get it, then
He wasn’t “borrowing” the championship ring from the University, right? It was his property. He sold something that belongs to him.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 23, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure there's a FAQ somewhere out this that will resolve this better than two strangers speculating on the Internet . . .
but it seems as if the difference is that the laptop would have been yours whether or not you qualified for an athletic scholarship, whereas the ring/books are only things you receive by virtue of being a member of the football team receiving benefits.
The reason for the rule, presumably, is to ensure that programs don’t get around the “don’t pay players” rule by routinely passing out salable memorabilia to players with everyone knowing full well that the stuff will be hitting eBay before the night’s over.
by The Final Gun on Dec 23, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah that makes sense
But if you think about it, the athletes are still receiving something of value. A gift, if you will. And this is fine as long as it remains a gift and doesn’t turn into cash.
I totally understand why the rule is there. It makes sense. It’s just one of those things that sounds stupid when you say it outloud.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 23, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
TP: "Happy Christmas cousin Willie, here you go"
WP: “Oh, Terrell, you shouldn’t have. My very own Gold Pants! Yay.”
TP: “Yup, but don’t give me any money for that, cause then I’d be a cheater.”
WP: “But Terrell, didn’t the money you accepted from Uncle Vest already make you a cheater?”
[Writer’s note: I have no proof that any aOSU player accepts money to play there. It’s just a liberty I took, because c’mon, everything about the Horseshoe is crooked.]
[Second note: See what I did there?]
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 24, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
OTOH, if your parents had to pay your tuition, maybe they couldn't afford to buy you a computer.
I know that was my case when I went to the Air Force Academy. We had some, but not enough, money put away for college. When I went to school for “free” my parents used some of that to buy me a computer.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
It's stupid.
But I think the point being made is that TP would never have received the ring if he didn’t play football. So by selling it, he’s using his football talents to make money.
by The Mexican't on Dec 23, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not a lawyer, or a sports memorabilia dealer,
but the players must have been able to sell the items for much more than market value.
(I’m also not a historian, but) I would guess this is similar to those student-athletes who were given higher-waged jobs working at car dealerships or country clubs over the summer back in the day.
by hawkeye_heartattack on Dec 23, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Both players and institutions are going to take any slack given to them and run with it
So when you look at the common sense of these rules you have to assume that they will be taken to extreme lengths. For instance, if you didn’t have this rule in place then there would be no recourse against a university going out and giving all kinds of garb to student-athletes and then having “boosters”/fans paying exorbitant prices for the stuff.
If you didn’t have a rule in place that says if anyone remotely associated with a player demands money in exchange for services regardless of whether or not the athlete knows of the dealings – then the player is ineligible – well shit.
Yes, but the service/opportunity
i.e. re-selling of books, is one that is available to regular students (including those on full-ride academic scholarships) and not available to the players only because of their status as football players.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
If they bought them, yes
But if they got them as part of their scholarship (as most do), they can only return them to the school. Selling back books received on scholarship is what got Alabama in trouble last year.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 23, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Got it
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 23, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Solicit money for a U for recruiting, 0 game suspension
Sell stuff and autographs for tattoos, 5 game suspension
Love the NCAA
The Cam Newton thing isn't over yet.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
by Adam Jacobi on Dec 23, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
of course it isnt
NCAA has shown time after time they dont touch a program on top. They wait for them to slide before they take action. If their top programs were cheating, the legitimacy of their entire product comes into question
by IrishHawkeye7 on Dec 23, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
this
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 23, 2010 11:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Right.
Because USC was in terrible shape before last offseason.
No, actually that’s wrong. They were the most successful program of the previous 5 years, that’s right.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Dec 23, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
NMC is the correct one here
NCAA loves flexing its muscles, they won’t wait to drop the hammer on any program if they have the upper hand
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 24, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
I'd say the Cam Newton thing is over the minute he finishes the National Title Game
Anything that happens after that is equivalent to printing a retraction on page 12 after running a front page headline two weeks earlier.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 23, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
See Bush, Reggie
Nobody will care, but I’d wager that Auburn’s season will exist in the books 5 years from now.
by The Mexican't on Dec 23, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Precisely
Does anybody really give a shit that Reggie was ineligible 5 years ago and has had to give back a trophy?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 23, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
The only people that were blown away by Bush's punishment are fans of Keeping Up With the Kardashians.
by The Mexican't on Dec 23, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Which one?
There seem to be so many of them now :-p
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 24, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
There was one reasonable punitive recourse from that situation
USC is not in a bowl game this year because of that and other misdeeds. It likely cost them at least one major recruit in that kid from Minny who shall remain nameless. I think they’re also sidelined from bowl participation next year as well. It also probably cost them Pete Carroll.
If you could have told me that their only punishment for the violations would be that they have to trade-in Carroll for Kiffin – I would have smiled.
But if Dad had been the courier...
they could have traded said autographs for a cool quarter million in cash and it would have been just fine and dandy.
This is frickin’ insane.
The NCAA
said they will be looking to close that loophole. As distasteful as you may find the Cam Newton situation, he did not technically violate a rule…. based on the evidence available of course.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
The rule says NO ONE can solicit money from a U
Dad goes from “We didnt ask for anything” to “Well we did but there was no cash” to “LOL straight cash homie” in the span of 4 days
by IrishHawkeye7 on Dec 23, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
But there was no evidence
that Cam knew it was happeing.
That doesn’t mean he didn’t know, it means it wasn’t proven.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Nice thing about money
it is infinitely traceable – if you are allowed to dig into the records. Unless they brought him a briefcase of cash and the Newton family is sitting on it or spending it very, very wisely. Prove the money changed hands and you have enough to proceed.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Dec 23, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
So what
that doesn’t prove that Cam knew about it.
And all they have to do is sit on the cash until the NCAA closes the books on this one, and spend away.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I don't think the rule says that the player has to know.
That’s why people are so confused by the ruling
I think the important thing about the Cam Newton situation is that it happend at Miss State
If his dad had admitted to soliciting money from Auburn, or Auburn had known about the situation at MSU, I think the punishment would have been different.
I remember when some Ohio State fan showed up at BSD demanding we show him “respect” or something.
Vastly more memorable than Jon Crispin's UCLA career.
by ReadingRambler on Dec 23, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions
"Him" being Pryor.
Vastly more memorable than Jon Crispin's UCLA career.
by ReadingRambler on Dec 23, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
We all kill, we all steal
we all trade memorbilia for tattoos. What’s the big fucking deal?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Seriously:
He sold a sportsmanship award
Vastly more memorable than Jon Crispin's UCLA career.
by ReadingRambler on Dec 23, 2010 11:34 AM CST reply actions
Thank you
that’s the one that strikes me as the most unreal
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 23, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Which is why he was subsequently awarded
The Big Ten’s Entrepreneur of the Year for 2010.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 23, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Going out on a limb here
I’d say an Ohio State fan, or a sports memorabilia dealer. Somebody who either bought it for purely emotional or purely financial reasons.
die hard OSU fans
i got a $100 each for my Archie Griffin autographed IOWA hats
Lookup "idiot" in the Dictionary. Leaders and Legends from the Lamely is the def
See, I find this disgusting
Its one thing to be fan… but buying something like that from the kid, that just puts you in the douchebag fan category. Its WRONG.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 24, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
I put more blame on the players
But it depends on who initiated the deal. If the players shopped the stuff around, I can’t really blame a fan for buying it. I would also wonder if anybody turned them down and tried to tell them to keep the stuff. So many questions that we’ll never get the answers to.
I was really just wondering who actually wanted a sportsmanship award.
I’d buy someone’s BT or MNC trophy/ring, Heisman, etc, but a sportsmanship award? Of course, in reality, I wouldn’t buy them because A) I don’t have money or tattoos laying around and B) I’d rather not be complicit in getting a college kid in trouble other than myself.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
The ruling can be appealed
so who wants to bet that 5 game suspensions turn into 1 game suspensions. And anybody who thinks the money for the fines is coming out of the player’s pockets is just naive as hell.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I'll bet that we see Pryor change his tune about staying in Columbus for 4 years if the threat of a NFL lookout ends
I don’t think that there’s anything the NCAA can do if they all declare for the draft. Well, at least the ones who are eligible under the NCAA-NFL agreement.
He sold a sportsmanship award!
Vastly more memorable than Jon Crispin's UCLA career.
by ReadingRambler on Dec 23, 2010 11:36 AM CST reply actions
It's like RAAAA-EEE-AAAIINNNNN
on your wedding day
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
beat me to it
Never not a good time for inserting lame 90s lyrics
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 23, 2010 11:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
fine then
like a free ride when you’ve aleady paid
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Still not ironic
Here’s a hint, nothing in the song is an example of irony.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Which in itself is ironic.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 23, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Or/also just stupid.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 23, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Or genius.
She did date Dave Coulier, after all. How could she not be a genius.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 23, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
one more time?
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 23, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Presumably some of these guys aren't (or shouldn't be) in a position to come up with a grand for charity to repay their "improper benefits".
I know I didn’t always have a grand sitting around at college and I came from a very financially blessed background compared to many college football players.
So where does the NCAA expect them to get the money? Honestly?
And when you’ve answered that question, you’ll begin to realize how much of a farce the NCAA is.
I guess my question would be
What tOSU fan actually took the sportsmanship award? I can’t imagine anyone else but a tOSU fan wanting it. I guess the other option would be a Michigan fan with disposable income purchased it as a trophy and the suspension would be icing on the steak.
Another question – why didn’t they just get the money from their summer “jobs?” Seems to be the way to funnel money to athletes with slightly less scrutiny.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Dec 23, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I would pay good money for that sportsmanship award.
You just can’t underestimate the value of that stuff.
For instance, one of my BSD buddies was at the 1994 Penn State Ohio State game. Final score: Penn State – 63, Ohio State – 14. Afterwards, as he left the stadium, some old Ohio State lady threw down her beret (with logo, of course) in disgust. In his words, “Picked that bitch up. Still have it. Priceless.”
Indeed.
Vastly more memorable than Jon Crispin's UCLA career.
by ReadingRambler on Dec 23, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
They're only asking for them to replay how much they made off the items
If the athlete already spent the money, that’s his problem.
Totally understand,
but they’re going to get the money to make repayments by violating more NCAA rules. Almost certainly. Everyone knows this. The NCAA is a farce.
by The Final Gun on Dec 23, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
How is this different than any sort of financial penalty for a criminal matter?
The legal system shouldn’t put financial penalties (or charge an inmate for their jail time) since they might get the money in some illegal manner?
I want to see a Presser with Tressel and the AD
explaining tOSU’s testing and monitoring policies.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 PM CST reply actions
I'm not sure what the coaches and administrators needed to do
"We were not as explicit with our student-athlete education as we should have been in the 2007-08 and 2008-09 academic years regarding the sale of apparel, awards and gifts issued by the athletics department,"
other than say “DON’T SELL THE STUFF WE GIVE YOU (until you leave the program).” Isn’t that common knowledge?
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 23, 2010 12:02 PM CST reply actions
There’s a difference between knowing you shouldn’t do something and actually caring enough to not do it.
tOSU class at its finest
We didn’t teach you common sense rules, so you’re not responsible once you break them.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 23, 2010 1:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Let's be clear: the players knew
OSU feigned ignorance for the players to get time knocked off. It worked: originally it was a 6 game penalty w/ 5 regular season games and the Sugar Bowl, but now they can play in the bowl game. Success!
Ann Arbor is a trollop.
And the fact that they can still play in the Sugar Bowl is what is so fucked up about this
It’s one of the things that just makes the NCAA look foolish. So you delay punishment because, and let’s be honest, suspending them for the bowl game hurts the BCS and the NCAA in lower television ratings. And this allows them to just declare for the draft and avoid the punishment.
All of this is true.
You know that saying about how you can’t get mad at a dog for licking its balls? I just can’t get mad at the NCAA being contradictory and foolish. That’s just what they do. If they’re not going to bother to suspend them for the Sugar Bowl, which hurts Ohio State much more than suspending them for next year’s Michigan State game and makes sure that the NFL jumpers at least miss some time, then why should the OSU athletic department cost itself loads of money by self-flagellating?
Now that this is out there, there’s a decent chance of more internal investigations by OSU and more major violations or probation. At least this means that our program’s dirty laundry will get aired out.
Ann Arbor is a trollop.
Seriously, this is how all big business works
and they call it plausible deniability.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 25, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
Big business, NCAA athletics, the P word
plausible deniability is definitely THE way to get out of shit lately. I actually think that Forde wrote a good piece on this.
PS – I know I just linked an apparent enemy of the pants and tWWL, but this might be a case of a monkey typing the Gettysburg address.
Too bad the couldn't suspend them for next years B1G Championship game . . .
But we’ll still curb-stomp OSU anyway.
Or the Sugar Bowl
Not that the NCAA is going to tarnish a BCS game for anything short of a felony. Caught on video.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Why is it they are allowed to play in the bowl game still?
This seems beyond outrageous.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
Because if they were suspended it would be bad for TV ratings.
That’s tens of millions (at least) of dollars’ worth of commercials that Joe Footballfan might miss seeing, which risks his not considering Chevy or Bud Light or Wrangler or Hefty or Axe or Hanes or whatever the next time he’s out purchasing products.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 23, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
In all likelihood the NCAA is glad this happened
For revenue issues. Look at all the interest they are generating for the Sugar Bowl right now, it’s everywhere you look.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 23, 2010 1:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, that could be too.
But the advertisers want all the stars available to play on gameday. All the extra attention is gravy.
So just shut your face and take a seat, 'cause after all, you're just talking meat.
by Bucketochicken on Dec 23, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, I don't buy any of that shit
And I love football. Is something terribly wrong with me?
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 24, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
No
it might make you abnormal, but in this case that is a good thing. Then again, sheep go to heaven, goats go to hell. Resisting our corporate overlords’ demands to consume makes you a goat.
If the NCAA suspends them for the bowl game,
OSU has an excuse as to why they got rolled in yet another BCS bowl. This way, that excuse will not exist. I would suspend them all for the bowl game regardless, since as was previously mentioned, they could all jump to the NFL and serve no time.
ESPN Coverage
This story was broken last night at the end of Boise St/Utah by Kirk Herbstreit (a la DJK’s story during one of our bball games on BTN) who said that it resulted from a federal bust of a local tattoo shop in Columbus. When they were going through the books they found all kinds of memorabilia that had not been paid for. When asked about it the tattoo shop said that it was given to them in exchange for services (free tattoos for OSU garb). Herbstreit said it involved 8 players and assumed they would be out for the bowl game. I thought Herbstreit’s commentary on the situation was appropriate.
Today, ESPN contacted a close member of Terrell Pryor’s family (or something like that) who commented that Pryor only did it to help out his family who are in dire financial need. Craig James commented that it’s just too bad that it has come to this and he really feels bad for Pryor’s family, etc. It was a joke and only strengthened my opinion that Craig James is a piece of shit.
Now I’m seeing on the bottom line that OSU is planning to appeal these suspensions. I can only assume that they’re appealing the length of the suspensions. If we look at precedent I think AJ Green only got 1 or 2 games for a similar offense. I’m guessing the NCAA is going to say that his offense was only one item whereas these OSU kids seemed to be selling anything and everything.
4 games for AJ Green.
And they should miss the bowl game.
by Off Constantly on Dec 23, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Pryor's family were in dire need of tattoos?
F*cking Obama…
"Life is no way to treat an animal"
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 23, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
The first part was what I thought.
All Pryor got out of it was free or discounted tattoos. Those tattoos fed his family, man. The second part didn’t really occur to me, though.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Damn Corbett, man, keeping T-Peezy and the folks in Jeannette down.
Vastly more memorable than Jon Crispin's UCLA career.
by ReadingRambler on Dec 23, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I try to refrain from saying so but
well played.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 25, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions
Helping out his family that's in dire financial need
Can’t be in that much need if he’s getting tats and declaring he’ll stick around for another year of college instead of getting what he can in the NFL.
It’s a garbage excuse. We’ve had a handful of players leave to go to the NFL, even with lousy draft projections, just to get a paycheck and support a family.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
If he/they were truly trying to help their family out
Then I can give them a little bit of a break. However, I can’t believe that most OSU fans would be happy to hear about more than one player trading some symbolic gifts for tats and other crap.
When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel
My favorite part
was when Pryor tweeted “I paid for all my tats. GoBucks.” Yes you did pay for your tats… with money from the sale of your sportsmanship award.
Re: Herbstreit
I just heard a diatribe of his from Cowherd’s show this morning where he absolutely went off on these guys especially Pryor. He called this “addition by subtraction” and called the players selfish. Herbstreit might even be going a little overboard with his reaction to this thing.
No, I don't think he is
Remember that he bleeds scarlett and grey. He might not have been the best OSU QB, but he was still an Ohio boy, OSU QB, etc. If any of the talking heads have a right to be livid about this it’s him and Chris Spielman. All OSU fans should be livid that these kids sold something with that much import in terms of the program and its achievements (especially the gold pants). If an Iowa player sold a Big Ten Championship ring or something along those lines, I’d take it like a slap in the face. That’s just me.
We were ticked on Wednesday night when he speculated who was going to get suspended for the tattoo stuff before anybody was reporting selling merchandise or specific names. It wasn’t until yesterday afternoon that this came out, and he didn’t say that he had a source. I do think OSU fans would have been annoyed regardless of which announcer said it.
Also, he appeared on Cowherd, which eeeewww. He needs to ritually purify himself now.
Ann Arbor is a trollop.
Well
All of the guys mentioned do have 2-3 of the BT Champ rings and gold pants lying around. Not like any Iowa players have had that level of surplus
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 24, 2010 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
No, he did it to save his struggling church from building code violations
Which might be an even sappier excuse than “my family needs the money”.
Am i the only one
Who thinks selling the sportsmanship award is nothing? Whens the last time that was a series let alone game?
i don't wife em...i one night em
Good Read
Andy Staples Article at SI.com sums up my feeling on this pretty well.
I’ll be the first to admit that paying the players is an almost impossible problem to solve in any kind of fair manner, but who can blame these guys for cashing in when given the chance.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Pryor's last game at QB will be the Sugar Bowl then...
…because this means he is probably leaving early, and he is not an NFL QB.
I could see him having a Randle El or Brad Smith role in the pros, but he is not even close to being a good enough passer to lead an NFL team.
by Reggie Roby's Wrist Watch on Dec 23, 2010 4:35 PM CST reply actions
He might want to hold off for awhile
It would totally suck if he declared, got drafted and then got locked out for a year.
Fuck tOSU
I am delighted at this news regardless of whether or not what they did was “right or wrong”.
I hate the assholes.
How would you like your steak done, Mr Sweater Vest?
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Dec 23, 2010 10:17 PM CST reply actions
My OSU buddy
remember i live among them
told me it was the same thing as Iowa players selling section 8 housing vouchers,.,,,
did that even happen in this decade?
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No it's not
selling section 8 housing vouchers would be much, much worse.
What the OSU players did was not a crime and didn’t hurt anybody.
Selling Section 8 vouchers is most likely a crime and has a direct harmful impact on people who should be receiving them legally but aren’t.
I don’t recall any Iowa players busted for selling vouchers, and a quick google search didn’t turn up such a story. I did find this article which talks about reform to Section 8 guidelines to close a loophole being exploited all over the country, although KF’s son was probably the highest profile example
The use of Section 8 by students, however, isn’t confined to Iowa. Other university cities facing this issue include Lincoln, Neb., Ann Arbor, Mich., Norman, Okla., Parkersburg, W.Va., Laramie, Wyo., Portland, Ore., Tuscaloosa, Ala., Platteville, Wis., State College, Pa. and Blacksburg, Va.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I love how they throw in Platteville.
Damn D-III football players taking advantage of the system every chance they get. Next you’re gonna tell me they used their status as a football player to get laid.
Fuck tOSU
Well, there are some DIII schools that do take advantage of the system.
I only know of one case, because it was my sister in-law’s brother, but whenever somebody with a 2.0 in high school gets a full ride academic scholarship to a good liberal arts school, it makes you wonder. Oh, did I mention he was an all-state, 6’5" forward on a 2 time championship high school basketball team (granted Division 3 high school, but still)
thanks,,
using is not as bad as selling ?
bad sense of holiday humor
but now, armed with the facts
what kills me is selling awards,,, tOSU guys think those gold pants are greater than sliced bread
hope all have a happy and safe holiday
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You have a Merry Christmas as well sir.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 24, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
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