PRESS CONFERENCE OPEN THREAD: BLOODPUNCHED
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 9:45 AM CST
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Press conference starts at 10:00 CST. It's allegedly available only with a subscription at Hawkeyesports.com (and there's no better illustration of the current state of the athletics department than having to pay $10 to watch a press conference called to discuss the potential implosion of the football program), though at Des Moines Channel 8 will carry it live on television and their website, we're expecting many more stations in central and eastern Iowa will follow suit, and info should be available from the usual sources regardless. We're expecting a cursory statement on Hampton and Robinson, followed by the Spanish Inquisition. We'll be disseminating information as we get it. Batten down the hatches. The storm clouds are getting close.
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Okay, after all of that, here's my problem...
…as was noted in the intro, they charged $10 for this show. Ten bucks? For that? Are they actively trying to piss off the fanbase (who may have forked over good money for a no-news presser)?
Okay, so if this wasn’t about the fanbase, then who was it about?
In a state-of-the-union type press event, the point is to reach “the union” with regard to its own affairs… but they made it hard for the union of concerned persons to access the info. If they were trying to reach the recruits and parents, then why the paid access.
Were they trying to limit access to those in the media (and a few others) and were relying on the press to disseminate the information?
I don’t understand. It doesn’t make sense.
Anyone have any idea why they would charge for a presser with no actual news?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 14, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
It was free to watch on news sites also.
I watched it on the KCCI website for free so it wasn’t like you had to pay to watch it. I believe it was on the KCRG website also.
Quick thought:
Remember when the UIPS officers were smelling marijuana in the RV rows before the Eastern Illinois game? Turns out it was coming from the locker room.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
OOOOOH
So “burning desire” wasn’t a feeling before the game. Gotcha.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Welp...
Burning desire is better than burning pee. Just sayin.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 14, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
Which given all DJK supposedly tested positive for
he probably had that too
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
his girlfriend (or at least girl that was in a lot of pics on his FB page...
…including one where she was “waiting for him” in bed is a Megan Fox lookalike. So that wouldn’t surprise me. Also, toe thumbs.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Dec 14, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Probably one of DiBona's 'tutes I eluded to yesterday
That man only uses the toe-thumbiest of toe thumbs.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
So the hawkeyes
have played their bowl game. Good, now I can go to work on Wednesday
by GodDam_Hawkeyes on Dec 14, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
I'll forever be an Iowa Hawkeye...
… despite today’s announcement.
by Lukateake on Dec 14, 2010 9:49 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
yeah..
I have Iowa liscense plates and an Alumni sticker on my car. Had a guy at the gas station this morning ask me if I was going to take them off. As much as this sucks the answer is absolutely not.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
Shit happens. It’s depressing as hell. But at least we aren’t Northwestern
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Why?
There is no reason to stop loving the Hawkeyes because some kids that are under higher scrutiny than the general student population decided to be like most of the student population. It’s too bad these guys don’t see the effect this short sighted fun has on their futures.
Always and forever LOVE THE HAWKS!
Jermelle Lewis is workin' the Minnesota D like a part time job.
grillinhawk must run a drug house
To insinuate that most of the student population is ingesting pot, cocaine and running a drug house just to defend your beloved hawkeyes just proves how ingnorant some Hawk fans can be
Good one
Pretty sure the “running a drug house” offense has been covered plenty – doesn’t mean jack shit, basically. And what, do tell, campus do you reside on?
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
This.
Also, Dude, Chinamen is not the prefered nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
by Settles'7thYearOfEligibility on Dec 14, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Easy rec
coaches and players come and go, true fans are here for life.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
by White Lightning on Dec 14, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fun couple. Anything to get off, I guess.
http://www.kcci.com/news/26047437/detail.html
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I'm just glad they're from Wisconsin.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, for some reason I thought Jebush was from Minneapolis.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Here We Go
Not as in “Hey, Bud Lights for everyone!”
No, more like the Joker in “The Dark Knight” just before all hell starts blowing up.
Although
I would kill for a can of the sticky stuff the receivers use
by GodDam_Hawkeyes on Dec 14, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
Weed is sold in cans now?
--
@scrappled
SlowStates.com - Podcasts now (finally) on iTunes.
by Run Up The Score on Dec 14, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Am I the only one that's just shrugging my shoulders at this point?
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 9:52 AM CST reply actions
No
I think we are all fairly meh about the situation. With how bad some of the rumors have been anything other than “we are discontinuing football” will not seem like th end of the world.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
over under
On the number of questions they actually field and/or answer?
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
2.6
/Price Is Right’d
Belay my last.
by steaming_pile_of_awcrap on Dec 14, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
perhaps
I’m thinking they give the same three answers to about twelve questions
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
"We just have to go one day at a time.
You know, we’re trying to get ready for a bowl game and these kids are playing their hearts out. It’s just not our type of game plan. We’ve tried different stuff in practice but we have to stay with what we know. It’s an testament to our staff that, you know, we have some amazing players on this team… Some great seniors. We’re all disappointed, sure. But there’s still a game to play and next season to get ready for. Seniors. Staff. Heart. Disappointment. Yeah.. I think I got ’em all."
Something like this?
Belay my last.
by steaming_pile_of_awcrap on Dec 14, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ding
+1
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
I think I have to seriously reevaluate my Iowa football obsession if they think they can charge money for this press conference.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Perhaps they should charge the attending media seat-licenses.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
becoming fairly concerned
That we run out of metaphorical pictures and artwork long before any server crashing issues
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
i'm sure
someone who may be quick with the shop, can make something outta nothing with this picture….
by GodDam_Hawkeyes on Dec 14, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Cokered-Up Werewolf
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that a number of drug-related suspensions will make Marcus Coker a starter?
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Absolutely not.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
IRONY
awesome
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
You say that ("a number of drug-related ...") as a statement of fact. Ominous.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Just going with what I've heard
I hope I’m wrong, but there’s too much smoke for me to not believe in the fire.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
I would if I could
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Okay, thanks.
If you’re right I hope the school does something besides hit the reset button.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
according to my buddies A-Rob was down at Kum&Go by their apartment all the time buying a case and a back of black&milds.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
"too much smoke"
I see what you did there
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Is it terrible...
…that I’m kind of hoping for the worst? After this season I just feel like it would be very cathartic to literally flush the whole team. Just me? Okay.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Dec 14, 2010 9:55 AM CST reply actions
dun dun dun
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
i give it 2 minutes
until it crashes
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
I'd just like to say...
it’s not my fault.
NICOTINE VALIUM VICODIN MARIJUANA ECSTASY ALCOHOL C-C-C-C--COCAINE
by DJK's Drug House on Dec 14, 2010 9:57 AM CST reply actions
good
i’m glad you didn’t kill lita’s baby.
by GodDam_Hawkeyes on Dec 14, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
It is for me
make sure you click on the live video box itself? thats what worked for me…
by clay-born to party on Dec 14, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
is everyone else still
“connecting to media”
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 9:59 AM CST reply actions
Thanks. I got it now...
this has to set a record for people logged into an all-access press conf stream
Everyone knows God is a Hawkeye
i got it
nothing is happening
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
by waterboy31321 on Dec 14, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
it looks like windows media player window
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
by waterboy31321 on Dec 14, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
KCRG has audio of Phil Haddy talking about bowl credentials
Absurd in context.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Just heard someone whisper
Something about elephants in the room. Yeah, think there are a few of those.
The radio station I'm listening to
Just said there could be a few changes in the roster….Gawsh ya think?
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:01 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Thank you.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Am I the only one who can hear but can't see?
"Simon Gagne!! We've got a Game 7!"
Follow me..or don't..:@Ben_Jones88
Good here...
On KCRGs website.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 14, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Yep just got it to work
had to smack it
"Simon Gagne!! We've got a Game 7!"
Follow me..or don't..:@Ben_Jones88
Reload it
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
I'm an All-Access subscriber
I can summarize as things happen if that would be helpful.
Please do.
Work Internet slow, not going to try to tangle with KCCI website.
Also, Dude, Chinamen is not the prefered nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
by Settles'7thYearOfEligibility on Dec 14, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Just to lighten the mood a bit
I took my Native American studies test today. One of the questions was “Which of the following was not an Indian involved in WWI.” Answer D was "GI Joe (Note: GI Joe was neither a native american nor was he a real person. The answer is D) And instead of none of the above on a different question he put “these are not the droids you’re looking for”.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:01 AM CST reply actions
Nice.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
He's in his 70s
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
lol
(wave of the hand)
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Here we go
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Oh fuck. Here we go.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:03 AM CST reply actions
Barta talking first
Not exactly the best start.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
how do you mean
grin or GRIN
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
UPDATES
/slow computered
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 10:04 AM CST reply actions
Krik in a tie
Also not exactly the best start
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
"every" student athlete?
They’re all lumped together? Good God…
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 14, 2010 10:04 AM CST reply actions
Wait
all sports?
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 14, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe he skipped class cuz he was tore up
Not that I know what that’s like.
by Hank Thrasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is exactly what I expected.
Crying over spilled milk, ladies and gentlemen.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:06 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Can't find a stream that will load. Link suggestions much appreciated.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
i have tried three websites
think they are just overloaded.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
http://www.kcrg.com/streaming
Working for me.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
The KCRG link above is working fine for me.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
http://www.kcrg.com/streaming
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Adam's OSU 1st quarter benching
was academically related. Nothing else new so far
SUSPENSIONS/TRANSFERS
Hampton gone (as we knew)
Robinson suspended (as we knew), KF implies but does not specifically say it’s academics-related.
Nothing else off the bat, at least. If there’s anyone else, he’s burying the lede.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
HAHAHA.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Barta smokin' a splif?
That explains a lot.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
So....nothing?
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 AM CST reply actions
KCRG link working great
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
for those not on a slow work network.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
when this winds down
Will someone please post a link to a transcript?
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
anything for you jerry
by Quinn Early: Motivational Speaker on Dec 14, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
thabks, just saying
It would be beneficial to all
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
It sounds bad, like
there are more names coming.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
This just in:
Reiff suspended. Not because he failed the drug test but instead elected to shit in the cup.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:08 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
+2
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
This is essentially saying
“conservative douche boosters, we’re still drug testing and not running a cartel.”
Move along everyone.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:08 AM CST reply actions
Hmmmmm....
I might have been right. No more suspensions seem to be in the mix. This is looking (sounding) like a press conference to say, “We are not asleep at the switch people.”
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
someone buy Kirk a new tie, please.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
I would suggest DJK
but his stash was yoinked by the pigs.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Because they were
“Columbian”
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
If anyone else is suspended
they’re sure burying the lede
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions
Umm...
It’s sounding like there’s no new news… DJK arrested, Hampton transferring, Robinson suspended…
You'd think if nobody failed drug tests
you don’t need to bring it up
"Simon Gagne!! We've got a Game 7!"
Follow me..or don't..:@Ben_Jones88
If the internet weren't going apeshit
they wouldn’t need to
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Yea but, you wouldn't want a PR department
just to answer internet chatter
"Simon Gagne!! We've got a Game 7!"
Follow me..or don't..:@Ben_Jones88
Normally they don't
but this past week has gotten a bit out of hand.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
i thought KF didn't care about "us"
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
So this was about Iowa not being a drug infested drug house
or, “no, DJK learned what he learned on his own.”
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
test. test. test.
drug test. psychiatrist. test. drug test. avoid avoid avoid
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
Does this get me CLE credit?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
I hope so.
I could really use it.
"There are no Pan Asian supermarkets down in hell, so you can't buy Golden Boy peanuts." - The Mountain Goats
Maybe Sally told the boys to shut down the impression that Iowa is a drug culture football program
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't be shocked.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
lots of
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
seems like a delayed CYA for the embarrassment of DJK testing + for the cops
Everyone knows God is a Hawkeye
Summary response
Robinson out cause he didn’t go to class (or the equivalent)
Hampton transferring
We DO drug test here, because WE choose to
does mulitple levels of testing mean
multiple pee stops?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Engage the student
Yeah, right Gary. It’s called “damage control”
The Boom is coming
You can just tell with all this stuff about drug testing.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
So, is this it?
Can I go do something else?
"Southern PA - We don't boast about our weather, because we don't want you here." - SarcasmJam
by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:11 AM CST reply actions
A Press conference about how Iowa drug tests
Bull shit more is coming
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
so we're telling the world step by step
how we drug test? Man, this does not look good.
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
Barta describing the testing regime
This isn’t a suspensions conference. This is a damage control conference.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
god I hope so
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
by HAWKEYESBABY on Dec 14, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
To a pedantic degree no less
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Oooops
now admitting that testing mistakes have been made. Athletes can get around test…it is part of testing.
Is this the longest ramp up to suspensions in history?
So far, no.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I used to have one of these buttons...
But then I became a grown up and started thinking for myself. I do appreciate the hard work to prevent me from abusing drugs as a youth. However, I am a pharmacy school dropout, I understand how drugs work, and know that many of these substances are imporperly Schedule I substances.
The more you find out about the world, the more opportunities there are to laugh at it. Bill Nye (yeah, the science guy)
Like KOK
testing positive for Crayola?
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
elmer's
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Sure.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Ah, there it is.
Someone got around the tests.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
so he is going to drop the bomb soon isn't he
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
Here Comes the Boom
About now…
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Dec 14, 2010 10:13 AM CST reply actions
"Staff member involved in inappropriate behavior or cover up"
So KOK is the ring leader!
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:13 AM CST reply actions
FUCK YES
Jump all over Iowa and the points!!!! Mizzou fans just shat themselves!!!
i don't wife em...i one night em
by smokinthereiff on Dec 14, 2010 10:13 AM CST reply actions
It's a fake
penis looking device that holds clean urine for drug testing
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
the Wizzinator is also my cousin.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Jose' Conseco will take the podium next.
The basics of Test Beating
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
CYA
Sounds like theyre covering their asses…the testing is often flawed, and that’s how DJK slipped past us.
by Jeff at the BBC on Dec 14, 2010 10:14 AM CST reply actions
Has any AD anywhere ever conducted a televised drug testing seminar?
He’s either nuts or this is CYA.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Welcome to Iowa
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
This does not happen at USC, Miami, Rutgers, etc.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
I have to say, I am not, and have never been, in the Barta Fan Club.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I think Kirk wanted to do this
to be honest. He wanted to shut it down and get on to bowl prep.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
And good for him
if that’s what it is.
At the end of the day, the way you get rid of rumors is simply drown them with information (even if 99% of it is useless).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
This almost seems directed to parents of recruits
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Bets on whether or not there are more names coming?
He said they would be discussing players statuses… players other than Robinson and Hampton and DJK??
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Dec 14, 2010 10:14 AM CST reply actions
"Protocols" "Proactive"
Barta and Ferentz are definitely staying on message.
by Midnight Rambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:14 AM CST reply actions
well if that many failed drug tests
they probably just swept it under the rug and decided there were flaws in the system to get rid of the positive tests
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
Other players?
We don’t have anymore, and we don’t anticipate anymore.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
by HAWKEYESBABY on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
No more suspensions anticipated
whew
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:15 AM CST reply actions
unrelated:
more transfers comming?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
We don't have any more and don't anticipate any more!
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 14, 2010 10:15 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
just because I can go poop now.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
NO MORE and don't anticipate ANY more
so this is about Parents.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
So Keenan Davis
was the most honest person on FB yesterday?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
what did Keenan Davis say?
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
Teh interwebz lies!!!!1!!!!
Or something to that effect.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 14, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
That everyone on the internet was full of shit
and people shouldn’t belive what they read. Basically, you know, this press conference but 24 hours ahead of time.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Essentially
“Stop believing message board lies!”
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
hes not a fan of social networks
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
Blargh.
No more players names being added. BOOOOORING. See y’all later.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions
KIRK HATES US!
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
There you have it, kids.
No more suspensions and whatever.
And Kirk is calling us and Hawkeye Report out. WE’RE JUST KIDS, KIRK. DON’T HURT US.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions
Sure.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I was asking if he specifically mentioned BHGP
I would be strangely proud.
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
twitter.com/dmbmeg
No, just "the social networks"
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
I thought he said
“the social networks, and those fucking pants bastards!”
by Grixxly on Dec 14, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I just LOLzyed during class. Thanks.
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
twitter.com/dmbmeg
HE NOTICED US!!!!!!!
We’ve arrived, we’re BIG TIME baby!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Wow
A two-day press conference to cover their own asses. Fail.
by Jeff at the BBC on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions
epic fail
Let’s talk about missouri and normy
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Kirk is hard
Does he even know how to turn on a computer?
i don't wife em...i one night em
by smokinthereiff on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions
usually I turn on the computer to get hard but as they say, different strokes.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
TALK ABOUT THE RIVALRY
Teen wolf’d
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
I would think this
is a good time for Move Your Feet.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
So yeah...
Bryce, you’re full of shit.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Some posters
definitely have some things to answer for.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He doesn't have to answer for anything.
Most people knew he was a complete jackass. He guaranteed the Outback, after all. He’s got no insight.
by The Mexican't on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
NO IT WASN'T! STOP BEING MODEST YOU DAMN IOWAN!!!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Let us not forget that Patrick wrote extremely foreshadowing things
referencing “sources.”
Something that was not discussed in this press conference, as I recall, was how many guys had recently failed drug tests. Am I right?
I don’t care if athletes take painkillers or blow weed, while sitting at home with their friends, but I think we have the public picture, not the whole picture. And I don’t think DJK is some rogue crazy guy. Whatever, we move on, and the thin black line is preserved.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
by Bellanca on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
BTW, I don't really think KF minds if some guy squirrels away his Percosets for those mornings when he feels like he got hit by a bus.
It’s way better than dealing with club scene nonsense and other alcohol, or alcohol-and-sex, problems.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
He was right on A-Rob
and he never said anything about suspensions.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he was claiming that at least 11 players would be gone.
by The Mexican't on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Nope
He said A-Rob was gone, and he said some other players failed drug tests but probably WOULDN’T be suspended unless they were repeat offenders.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Did KOK test positive?
Is he suspended for the bowl game?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
If incompetence was a drug
KOK would be suspended from life.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
KOK?
Why are we using this episode to get a few cat scratches at the OC?
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
It's what we do
A sign that things are returning to normal
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Dec 14, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
WOOT!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Well, back to work ya'll
by Quinn Early: Motivational Speaker on Dec 14, 2010 10:17 AM CST reply actions
NM, you're right, back to nachos
by Quinn Early: Motivational Speaker on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
hmm
Not with coffee
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
They just arent telling us about them
because they decided there were flaws in the system so they decided they werent accurate
-Dante Bichette/Troy Tulowitzki
-John Elway/Ryan Clady?
-Dikembe Mutumbo/Nene
-Peter Forsberg/Statsny
I honestly think they are saying we don't have a clue about the accuracy of test results.
A-Rob probably represents the lowest of low-hanging fruit if he was identified and penalized. Barta’s “cottage industry” remark i says to me that they don’t know how players have been beating the tests.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Well, glad that's over with.
Oh, wait, Paki’s still starting?
"Southern PA - We don't boast about our weather, because we don't want you here." - SarcasmJam
by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:17 AM CST reply actions
Couldn't they have put that there was no more expected player movement/suspension in the press release?
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
They needed the $10
And it wasn’t $10 per person, just $10 for the entire webinators. and they needed the cash flow.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Possible Translation
Hampton is gone because he f-ed around with the drug test.
Someone had posted yesterday on Rivals that the big deal was that someone had cheated the drug test and been caught.
by H I McDonnough on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST reply actions
see above
For “monkeys on typewriters”
Someone had to be close to correct
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
haha
one of my friends got charged with cheating a drug test. she drank so much water leading up to the drug test that she almost pissed pure water, and they thought she cheated it and charged her to like a couple days in jail or some shit. didnt go over in court but cheating a drug test isnt good news. haha
This press conference is a thing of beauty....
Barta and Kirk just sold Iowa’s tickets for the insight and made it a sellout! Wake up people!
i don't wife em...i one night em
by smokinthereiff on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST reply actions
They test every week?
So put DJK’s bust in your pipe and smoke it.
They either just lied, or DJK was busted for ephemeral reasons. I’m sorry, users don’t pass 52 tests in one year.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
They just lied is my bet.
"Southern PA - We don't boast about our weather, because we don't want you here." - SarcasmJam
by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
I think you are right
they are saying he was tested
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
They're addressing that now.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Not Every Player
They didn’t say they tested every player every week. They said they tested a number of players at random every week.
"We didn't ramp up a new policy because of the arrest"
So even the basis of the original rumor is wrong. The ten players tested happened during DJK’s arrest.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST reply actions
Something tells me Jewel may have tested positive
Just reading between the lines here as they obviously wouldn’t say, but they mentioned why he was suspended earlier in the year, and then on Sunday they came to a mutual decision wherein he was leaving the program (after drug testing from last week).
that was FUCKING weird
he is clearly not happy to be talking about this AT ALL.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
But there was no humor there, at all
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
Naturally. This shouldn't come as a surprise.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
See Kirks shit eating grin
He said fuck with me now Hampton…..Ha Ha, i love it
i don't wife em...i one night em
by smokinthereiff on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 AM CST reply actions
Ha!
They ask about players refusing to take a drug test and Barta says “we won’t discuss any results” then Kirk immediately answers the question and says a refusal is a positive. Apparently these guys are not on the same page.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
Did someone just make Bloodpunch a fool?
"Southern PA - We don't boast about our weather, because we don't want you here." - SarcasmJam
by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Bloodpunch vs. Ferentz
Clash of the titans!
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
So no more players suspended, and Kirk isn't resigning.
This was a popcorn fart.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 10:20 AM CST reply actions
HOW DID IT TAKE FIVE MINUTES FOR SOMEONE TO ASK ABOUT PLAYERS GETTING AROUND THE DRUG TESTS?
Thanks, Tom (Kakert?)
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
The "getting around" these tests
is their way of saying, “Maybe DJK fooled the testing procedures. But we fucking tested him boys. OUr testing works.”
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
You know, there are actual questions being asked by the reporters.
Remember this press conference, because I can’t remember when there was a football PC with real questioning.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Kirk with the correct answer
these are adults…they need to police some shit themselves.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
exactly
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Was the question about him overseeing the guys actions?
I had to turn off the fucking radio last week when Marty fucking Terrell just could not comprehend that Ferentz was not overseeing everything that 100 college kids are doing every second. Certainly there are things he should be aware of, but there are 100 fucking college kids, there’s no goddamn way he knows everything that’s going on.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Mas Casa: "How do you not know DJK is living with a drug dealer?"
Oof.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:22 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Wow. That was a kick to the balls.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Kirk handled that pretty fucking perfect
2 points for Kirk.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
What was his answer?
"Southern PA - We don't boast about our weather, because we don't want you here." - SarcasmJam
by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Basically, with 85 players
it’s impossible to do background checks on every roommate, girlfriend, friend, etc.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that's logical, but it's not the point.
Players know what is going on with players, and he didn’t need to do a “background check.” That’s a sneer, an evasion.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
but he's saying he can't chase every rumor
and when will be know what is credible and what is not…to be fair.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
I don't understand your point
So he should interrogate players about their teammates? Or since he’s around the team so often he should just be able to “tell” that a player is living with a druggy?
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
What I mean is this:
You’re on a team, you care about the team, you break your back to follow the rules. Some douche lives with a dealer. You think it’s not a team matter?
I am not calling DJK a douche. But I know everything about my staff that affects our mutual objectives. That is the essence of small unit leadership.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
You know everything about everyone who works for you? Their friends, family, all outside activities? Because that’s creepy if it’s true.
I know everything that I believe affects our mutual objectives.
I’m probably older than you. Leadership is exhausting. It’s not a matter of following a rulebook.
My point here is that DJK’s teammates knew who he lived with. I think anyone who doesn’t believe that is either naive, young, or has never spent time in a squad, boat, startup, or rig.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
No, but what then?
Does Kirk say you are off the team if you don’t move? I think that is the issue. Kirk may be fudging about knowing who DJK was consorting with…
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yes. You do. You fire his ass if he threatens the unit. Witness the last 10 days.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
And DJK would likely, today, get on his knees and thank his Lord if that had happened.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
That's true...
but that’s hindsight.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
In hindsight, I think DJK didn't do anything wrong -- in the personal.
But in hindsight, in context, the coaches could have saved this kid from himself, and stanched the damage to the team. I don’t hold subordinates responsible for organizational behavior — that’s the blame game that serves leadership alone.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I think Kirk felt a disconnect with him
he might have done differently with a different player. My conjecture.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
"no one came forward" to me is what he is claiming
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
he passive in his coaching philosophy
so he is not contradictory
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not on board with you
on that one. People are allowed to do things their bosses don’t like. And should be. If it isn’t illegal or against stated codes, then that is as far as you can go.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Then join another organization. You don't hurt your brothers.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Getting drunk at the Christmas party
is different than getting drunk at home on a Saturday.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I distrust people who DON'T get drunk at the christmas party.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
that's funny
in a truism sort of way..although I was drunk at a X-mas party on Saturday and said some stupid stuff that I am regretting. But with age comes peace.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I'm sure she IS good looking in those black stockings.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
it was more embarrassing than that
that would not embarrass me.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
nope
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sure a number (or a lot) of players did know
but the question is whether they told the coach(es) anything. Maybe (and I am completely speculating here) they mostly thought DJK’s habits were confined to the off-season and didn’t feel the need to narc on him to the coaches. Irresponsible? Sure. But let’s keep some reasonable perspective on the amount of what someone “should” know.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Just my opinion HG. You join a small organization, you take care of your brothers.
These are all good young men but they are not mature men and they need more from their leadership (coaches).
We play tackle football, most of the time.
DJK failed on that one
but Kirk is saying, that happens. I can’t stop every crime before it happens. And he probably feels that his attitude about the young an is CLEARLY on the record. Not starting him. Etc.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
"the young man"
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
KF is big on 'irrefutable statements of fact' as a way of deflecting questions. He's brilliant in his obtuseness.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Maybe
but doesn’t your thinking impose a system that ultimately is bound to fail? Someone, sometime will slip up. Is that then a failure of organization to protect one of its brothers, or is the onus on the one? Or, as is most often the case, is it the fault of both? A blind spot of the many exploited by the singular?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Of course it fails. It failed here. The point is to think about why it failed, and decide if anyone is accountable.
In situations like this I don’t believe you punish the child because daddy has a headache. Just my two cents. I don’t think being stupid is a crime, unless you are the boss.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Yes, you have a high standard for the boss
but that is a slippery slope. If the boss makes a mistake then he has no place to go but out. I like the all in this together model. You can still have leadership and accountability but its more honest and believable—corner stones for respect anyway.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
No, you don’t. You can’t, because by definition you don’t know what you don’t know. If you seriously conduct yourself like this, you best believe that there are a more than a few people working for you who are actively trying to hide things from you.
It doesn’t matter what teammates knew. Knowing is not the same as reporting. It’s not difficult to imagine that, given the relationship between DJK and KF, any teammate who did know felt it best not to say anything.
And unless you’re in your mid-50s, you’re not older than I am.
that did seem like a weird ad hominem attack, as it mattered
george w. bush was older than me
/politck’d
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Wasn't trying to impugn you, just disagreeing strongly.
I live the straight haut-bourgeois life now, albeit with a clearance, but there was a time when I worked the offshore rigs and the Georges Bank, and I did not want to be on the drilling floor or in a nor’easter with some dipshit who was going to take off one of my hands because he was high. We knew everything about everyone. (Time in port: nobody’s business but my own, I think Cole Porter said.) That’s where I got my MBA. I apologize if I offended you.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I believe the issue is did DJK's folks know who he was living with?
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
right. How does Mama DJK not know???
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
twitter.com/dmbmeg
You think my parents knew
that I spent about a lot of time in the home of a convicted felon/drug dealer as a teenager? Hell no.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
It's way easier to fool one's distant parent than the men you shower with.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
There seems to be an assumption around here
That DJK was using drugs because he was living with a drug dealer. And that living with said dealer should be public knowlegde on the team. Who are we to say that he didn’t use drugs before/independently of his roommate.
No matter how many of the off-field interactions you check up on, there will always be something that came before them. How do you check on these? A personal history provided by the player? That’ll work, because I’m sure they will admit to all troublesome activities.
by 6 seconds of hell on Dec 14, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
I agree that it is a team matter
and other players should have stopped that shit before it started. I’m just not sure KF can be expected to just “know” all that is going on. Maybe he could have done a better job communicating or something, but I don’t think it’s a cut-and-dry “KF’s fault” sort of thing.
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
You have total responsibility for your unit. Without fail.
This was too obvious to miss.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Again, I don't think the issue is about knowing or not knowing
it is,
Okay, now you know. What do you do? What can you do? The guy is a 5th year senior who has not tested positive for drugs. He kind of earned a little benefit of the doubt at that point i would guess.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Tht's what I'm thinking.
Stanzi or someone should have stepped up. Sandeman? Clayborn? But if it’s Keenan Davis or a younger guy, I’m sorry, I don’t do it. Might be cowardly, but the most I do is make sure an upperclassman knows.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I tried coming up with an answer
But actually, I think it would come down to who he is closest with on the team. I kept trying to think of who the leaders are on this team, who might have an effect on his line of thinking, but I really couldn’t come up with a clear answer (Stanzi? Clayborn? Ballard? Hunter?). The bottom line is, I don’t think any of them is the overriding leader in the way King or Angerer were. Therefore, I think it would have to be whoever he is closest with on the team, which, I have have no idea who that is.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Considering the late season collapse
I think we can argue that there wasn’t an overriding clubhouse leader like King or Angerer
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 14, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Without a doubt
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
That's what she said
You have total responsibility for your unit.
by cbrett42 on Dec 14, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently every player should come in every day to be questioned about their non-football activities.
Please, let's not. I am expressing my philosophy of leadership, not being sarcastic.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Yeah, I think you have a good point
I think Ferentz’s philosophy is being explicitly explained here. He drug tests MORE than is required. He has a special hire to watch players. If things slip by, it is not because he is asleep at the switch or running loose.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
And just because
we THINK the players would tell the coaches if another player was living with a dope dealer, we don’t KNOW that they would. We don’t even know that they would know.
Some dealers are rather discreet about the matter. Others have very violent reactions to being outed, and that tends to keep info under wraps.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Additionally
We know what it’s like to be college kids who think they are invincible. My guess is, while some (hell, maybe all) of the players may have known, they probably assumed he wouldn’t get caught. They think about all the times they have gotten drunk without getting caught, smoked without getting caught (yes, I’m sure it’s more than just DJK), and assume that it will all work out OK.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I understand that
but the word has to get to the coaches somehow
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
But not everything does
no matter how much we would like to think it did, we don’t know.
DJK probably knew it was best that the coaches NOT know and tried to make sure they didn’t find out. We don’t know nearly enough about the social interactions of this team to say any of them should have known.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
No I'm with you
My point was more that in order for the coaches to have any culpability, the word would have to get to them first
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
If KF didn't hear the chatter about DJK's roommate, his hands were over his ears.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
But again
You’re assuming there was chatter. If one of your charges had a similar setup, do you think the others are going to go out of their way to make sure you hear about it? I think part of it is the “first rule of fight club is you do not talk about fight club” mentality. And as I said earlier, it’s entirely possible that a group of 100 college athletes felt pretty invincible and assumed that because he hadn’t been caught yet, that he wouldn’t ever be.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Or, more likely,
in a group of 100 players, only a handful “knew” the truth about DJK’s roommate and felt that was info best kept quiet. Maybe you don’t associate with him because of it, but you don’t narc on him.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Certainly all possible
I was going back to my original point that I remember what it’s like to be a college kid. You feel invincible. It’s why you make moronic decisions on a semi-regular basis. Granted, I didn’t do anything nearly that egregious, but the fact remains. They very well may have thought that, while a bad idea, nothing bad would come of it.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
All this
plus, my point. Not only do you feel invincible, but you don’t feel like it’s your duty to police others. There is a lot you turn a blind eye to, even things that piss you off because the one thing you never do is snitch.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I agree with the premise of your argument
but you also have to define small unit (tee hee). The thing is, there are 100+ kids who, while sharing a lot of time, do not spend every minute together, and do go their separate ways. I, personally, wouldn’t consider a football team a small unit (tee hee).
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
"Small unit": an organization where you know everyone's name.
That includes a football team with 125 guys. I’m sure KF has a chart with pictures and names, to help him, but he is on a first name basis with all 125.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Incentive not to know
You mentioned having responsibility for your unit, but “responsibility for the unit” in the context of football means winning, and if looking the other way means a better chance for the team to win, then … well, it becomes very easy to ignore warning signs. I’m not saying coaches and players necessarily knew things and ignored them, but there is a lot of pressure to win and win now in college football, and the immediate effect of blowing the whistle would be to hurt the team’s chances of winning. Now that everything is out, it obviously would be better for the program if they had monitored things more closely, but everyone might have been betting on the news just never getting out.
by Horace E. Cow on Dec 14, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
yep, he thinks only defining a program by looking at wins and losses
is cretinous. “Anyone can win,” he seems to be saying ironically enough. In other words, go to Florida and winning is like falling off a log. Go to Iowa and win, now you’re doing something.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
But it's a big part of success
He could recruit only players who were pure and virtuous and would never, ever besmirch the program, but instead he recruits football players, and sometimes a few of them are idiots and commit criminal misdeeds. I’m just pointing out that perfect oversight of the team and winning games can conflict.
by Horace E. Cow on Dec 14, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
We don't background check girlfriends or roommates.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, apparently he did a little self-scouting and knew that was coming.
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by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Can you believe this question? I asked it last week.
How does the coaching staff not know that DJK is living with an alleged felon?
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Of course he is. He loves his players and hates the ancillary noise.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
If he loved his players I would think he would DJK still work out with them.
I guess he feels it would be too much of a distraction.
by HawkeyeRecon on Dec 14, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
As opposed to his usual attitude towards the media?
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
So.....
My bleeding ulcers, and anal leakage was for nothing?
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
KF will not forget that he had the temerity to press him here.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Morehouse has been doing this for years
So if Morehouse hasn’t been pistol-whipped yet, I don’t think there will be blood.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
by Adam Jacobi on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Morehouse with awkward effect to say
“how did you NOT know this was happening?”
Re: DJK
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
In the rare occasion a real question is asked
a separate reporter bails Kirk out by tossing a softball before any follow ups can happen
by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 AM CST reply actions
cj planted it
The president was supposed to call on him first
/westwing
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by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can almost understand how Kirk was clueless about DJKs drug use
the guy was a 5th year senior and he gets popped in 11th hour of his career.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
...but that's a stupid question, right?
KF’s supposed to know the guy’s a drug dealer before the cops?
great point...they are not roommates
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
He had priors
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
Affirm. Players know everything that is going on with players. The coaches aren't paying attention.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
yes, in effect he saying he will drug test
and get reviews on attendance but he’s not going beyond that and
this makes Iowa better than most. I think that is what he is saying.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
These two guys are "process guys". They create processes and trust in processes.
They need to get to the next level.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I think you are right
and I think he is like that for liability reasons. Have clearly defined boundaries, both directions.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Spot-on here
If that next level is a place where there isn’t a readily definable boundary, they may open themselves up to more scrutiny. Liability, maybe, not sure on that. Trouble is, it’s still not that big a community. It seems simple enough to monitor, though I don’t know if it truly is.
Part of the off-season should include taking a look to see what more can be done, for which a boundary or protocol could be established.
In the context of competitive sports, "quit" is the most profane of all four-letter words.
this whole presser was an effort to say
WE FUCKING MONITOR people…more than is required, despite huge costs, and do all we can but people can still slip by.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
The Urban Meyer solution:
Assistant coaches are responsible for their charges. That means they know anything about up to 15 players that will affect the team. They know girlfriends, roommates, habits, secrets — if it affects the team. They are accountable. They know cell phone numbers. They have dinner with girlfriends. They walk into apartments.
Really, it’s not so different than the Marines or any successful startup. It’s a proven model. It starts with being knowledgeable about the influences and behavior that affect the unit.
I’m not saying that DJK’s bedroom and private behavior comprise a compelling State interest.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
although his team
had more arrests than Iowa in the last five years, and among the most in college football.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
there just might be a limit to prevention of some things
is Kirk’s alibi. It’s acceptable but does not inspire confidence.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
All Ferentz had to do was call DJK's parents and ask them to ask their son a few tough questions.
While recommending he get a new roommate.
And that’s if he didn’t want to go have a beer with him and tell him to stop screwing up his own charmed life.
I’m sorry, we’re talking about investing an hour in the personal life of one of your guys, so that your organization doesn’t have 10 days like the last 10. It’s not a big deal, it’s practical, it’s what grownups do.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
To be fair, KF may have done all of that and more. He's classy enough not to play the self-justifying sympathy card.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I honestly believe...
that it is possible that the coaching staff did not know DJK was on anything more than his scrips.
I think it is possible that none of the players told the coaches about DJK’s actions.
I’m willing to bet that Ferentz talked to DJK several times about how to behave well to benefit your future, but I bet it was never over a beer. And, if DJK never failed a drug test, I’m willing to bet KF never mentioned drugs (and to avoid them) to DJK.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 14, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Given Florida football's recent recrod
I’m not sure the “Urban Meyer Solution” is all that effective. They’ve had something like 27 players arrested in Urban’s time there.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
That's a player selection problem, not a process problem.
Iowa explicitly goes after the boy scouts. Yes, I consider DJK a boy scout.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
But
if the Urban solution was so effective, then shouldn’t the bad apples have been discovered before they were arrested, giving the coaches a chance to either turn them around or boot them from the team?
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
They were committed to a high-risk personnel strategy. So, no.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
You're trying to have your cake and eat it too on this one
Your argument seems to be: the KF system is flawed becasue the coaches don’t know what’s going on within their unit, leading to problems. The solution is to employ the Urban Meyer model because there the coaches are much more invovled. All the arrests from the Urban Meyer system are wholly unrelated to the system per se.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Urban Meyer system
KNOW that your players are doing drugs and committing crimes, but hope they don’t get caught, because it helps your team win. Have a quarterback who really loves God to distract from the bad things.
So it doesn't bother you
that the UMS results in 27 player arrests. But you can’t figure out how ONE GUY slipped through the Kirk Ferentz System.
You can’t catch them all. It happens. No matter how well a team is managed, you just can’t catch them all. So you setup a reasonable system and tweak it as neccessary to limit the damage. This isn’t a SWAT team or an infantry squad, it’s a college football team. Take 100 Type-A, overly testosterone laden young men, put them in an envioronment where they are treated like demi-gods, and police them as best you can.
There have been a few very high profile failures under KF but overall, only the assault was super bad. Most of it has been fairly petty crime or less.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Yeah but,
in Pokemon, you gotta catch them all!
by clay-born to party on Dec 14, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with everything you say, but you don't mention that DJK was living with a dealer, with priors,
and I don’t believe it is possible to NOT know that.
Anyway, peace out. DJK is the big loser here and he has my sympathy. I don’t know what happened between DJK and KF, so perhaps my querulousness in regard to KF not saving the kid from himself is entirely out of line.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
At least you can admit
when you are wrong.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Also, we don't know if DJKs drug arrest is akin to the NY Jet coach
sticking his knee out on the sidelines, that is to say, an instinctual gaffe. A mistake but not premeditatedly so.
My instinct is that DJK needs some help but maybe not as much as many think. He might be a very casual user who chooses his friends horribly.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
I am a bit surprised
that you are not taking the overland route. DJK is 23 years old. In 1950 he would be on his third kid and second house. Now he needs his coach to tell him who not to live with or he’s on the street.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
The point is he's a pampered superstar athlete-child, not changing diapers. And that's what Iowa wants.
He’d be better off if he had some responsibilities and insight into how failure can crash a life, but that is not DJK.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Fair enough
I can see my own decisions going both ways if I were KF. I can see ripping him a new asshole and letting him sink in his own poor decision making.
That Kirk wasn’t his biggest fan is a big part of how this turned out. Like keeping quite as you see a guy walking in line with the pile of dog poo.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
You try to help
but ultimately, DJK has to want to change. At a certain point you just give up because it’s a waste of time. I think KF tried, DJK didn’t. That simple.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Morehouse had an oblique reference to a office blow-up between DJK and KF, post Minnesota. I don’t for a minute believe Kirk saw this coming, but I believe there was much more trouble between those 2.
I still think KF largely mishandled his treatment of DJK
meaning the stuff leading up to the arrest. It always seemed to me that the two just didn’t click, and neither was willing to make the compromise to get along. My problem with KF in re DJK was that, to me at least, it seemed that Ferentz went out of his way to embarrass/call attention to the fact that DJK needed reprimanding in way that was completely at odds with how he handled almost every other player.
None of that, however, excuses DJK’s actions.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
its hard for me to agree with this
since none of us know any details of the DJK KF relationship.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Unlike most people
I’ll freely admit that my opinion is speculative based on imperfect, limited and incomplete information. I don’t “know” this to be the case in any sense, but I “feel” that it is the explanation. Unlike a lot of people on the internets the past couple of days, I am aware of the distinction between knowledge and belief.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
good to know.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think KF was trying to draw attention to his relationship with DJK.
He stated flatly that DJK will not speak to the media, and everyone kept asking about it when DJK was approaching the records. KF just kept repeating himself.
by The Mexican't on Dec 14, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
It goes back long before this year
Again, just my opinion.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
HoyaGoon questioning KF's judgment?
What a shock.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 14, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
I think you have to be a tad satisfied...
with KF today.
At least I thought he did OK.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 14, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Kirk plays it tight to the vest
That’s just who he is. He’s an impressive dude in many respects, no doubt about it. He not immune from criticism, but now is not the time to go there again. Plenty of time for that after the bowl. 8 )
Agreed. And Kirk not being a DJK fan gives teammates who might have known about DJK’s use a reason not to say anything to the coaching staff. After all, if you knew DJK was using, you were probably a friend of his.
+1
awesome point.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
I thought DJK's class
was one of the last before they tinkered with the recruiting and vetting process, after the CityBoyz fiasco.
In the context of competitive sports, "quit" is the most profane of all four-letter words.
Stupidly, I scheduled a consult for this morning.
What’d I miss? Other than the “no new names?” This board is updating violently.
by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Dec 14, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
They should've just read the thread from yesterday
They probably would’ve just suspended the State of Iowa.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
OMG, We're not going to win 11 games every year?!?!?!
That was not my understanding from reading the interwebz.
I was so ready to drop this too
"Simon Gagne!! We've got a Game 7!"
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by Ben Jones on Dec 14, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
You know, I think Kirk is pushing it just a bit for my liking
He’s a little smug the way he’s answering questions. I mean, we’re having a presser because his program has multiple issues. The media didn’t get DJK arrested, ARob kicked off the team, and Jewel to transfer. This is no time for a high horse.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
But you must admit
This IS him showing emotion.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
no
He’s pissed at blog world and the media for blowing up and pissed at his boss(es) for making him waste bowl prep time by coming on the tee vee to play clean up
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
My point is, the media and damned dirty bloggers didn’t create the arrest, excommunication, and transfer of his players. The media didn’t teach players how to get around their drug testing. He’s acting like he’s above all of this. He’s not. This guy is an administrator and it appears his administrating sucks.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly Agree
He is way too smug and not apologetic at all.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
waaaaaaaaaaank
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
by Adam Jacobi on Dec 14, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Don't want an apology.
I just don’t want to feel like I’m fishing with Curly.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
It is not the media or social media’s fault for why this press conference is happening.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
time will pass
And this will not be a big deal. djk will get a good lawyer, plead down and we alk will move on. The end of this season, the fourth quarter breakdowns and the short handed defensive and special teams coaching are big deals
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Really?
You think Barta usually shows up for announcements like these?
They said outright that this press conference wouldn’t happen if it weren’t for the proliferation of some insane theories, and that they had to address them. So here they are. To deny that is to give more credence to random message board assholes than Barta and Ferentz—not exactly a winning formula.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
by Adam Jacobi on Dec 14, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Ferentz immediately blamed social media. I am sure he just gets his tecnhology confused. Obviously, there was some smoke behind some of this or they would not have admitted that someone likely beat a test. I agree that those message board rumors are insane and I do not know how you stop them from spreading.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
NO
in the absence of any additional information, it would seem that the smoke was just that, smoke. This was a textbook case of people who have limited information taking off in wild tangents based on nothing but pure speculation, fear, and rumor-mongering.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Dec 14, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I dont disagree so maybe them admitting that people likely beat the test was them covering up for DJK? I read an email forward today that felt like it was written by an Iowa State fan.
However, in my personal experience with internet rumors is that quite often, they are around the truth but do not have story straight. Although some of these were just too nuts to repeat with this one.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
fair
But you think there weren’t ever problems before? Or anywhere else for that matter? Twitter and the 24 be news cycle are far and away the bigger enemy here.
The rumor is halfway around the world before the truth has its pants on-Churchill
(i believe)
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Twitter didn't create this
I didn’t see anyone on twitter 2 weeks ago talking about 11 players being suspended. The tail did not way the dog here.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
No
but once ONE player was arrested, there were immediate tales of 10, 20 or more players who were users. How so many players were shitting bricks over this one and that huge numbers of players had failed drug tests. This gets written one place, somewhere with no verification, then gets reposted all over the internet ad infinitum which gives it, to many, the appearance of being valid. Based on the information we have now, and had at the time, there was absolutely no basis for 99% of what we’ve heard/read. But that didn’t stop us from losing our minds and obsessing over it. Is there more that we don’t know? Quite possibly. And that information, if it exists, may confirm or deny or have no bearing on the rumors we’ve heard. But until we know more, we have NO VALID REASON for lending these rumors credence. But the fact that so many did is a fault of the internet/TWITTER/general proliferation of “information”
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Dec 14, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
But the chicken clearly came first here
The arrest came first. Not the rumors. My point was Kirk was a little too quick to act as though he was above all this and that the media created this problem.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Let's talk about trolls for a minute
It really doesn’t matter WHO starts the rumors, but I’m beginning to think that the real purpose of the trolls is to disrupt our bowl preparation, recruiting, program, etc. I don’t think Iowa is specifically targeted in this, but, since I’m donning my tin foil hat here, I’m starting to think with the growth of the Internet that some programs may have put together FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) teams to sow rumors like this.
Its something to think about. I just find it really improbable that there are THAT many monkey shit throwers sitting in their basements messing around on boards… most of us do have lives after all LOL
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 14, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, but it was the egg (rumors) that necessitated the press conference
DJK got popped for drugs, Ferentz released a statement expressing regret and the punishment that DJK would face (suspension from all team activities). In the absence in any additional information, that shoudl have been enough until the next regularly-scheduled press conference. Instead, shit went crazy on the internet without any valid basis. Absence of proof of a particular claim was taken to be proof itself. We (the collective fanbase) demanded answers to questions that only existed in our fevered imaginations, the fact that they were repeated so often does not make them valid. And KF is above this, unless we want our football coach’s primary responsibility to be stamping out non-existent fires that reach some critical mass on Hawkeye Nation
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You wonder if this would have blown up so much if we were 9-3 or 10-2 right now
And in a New Year’s bowl. My guess is there wouldn’t have been as much hysteria.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
There would have been more
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Exactly.
Iowa closing with 4 losses in 5 games helped keep this from going big time. If this is a BCS bowl team then the backlash would have been unreal.
by The Mexican't on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think so.
After that Minnesota turd got dropped the entire fanbase was extremely disappointed and filled with angst. “What the hell happened this year???” Then the DJK craziness dropped like a bomb on an already agitated fanbase who wondered if the season and the DJK results were proof the program was in turmoil.
If we had 10 or 11 wins I don’t think any of this hysteria would have happened.
by HawkeyeRecon on Dec 14, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
If this happens to a 10 or 11 win team
Then everyone starts freaking out because our chance at consecutive BCS bowl wins is blown. At this point, so many fans are frustrated that this is just piling up and probably just shrugging it off.
by The Mexican't on Dec 14, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
If we were in a BCS bowl, the internet would have broken.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
All ceos deal with rumors.
These two guys know that they are both employed for the duration, so it wasn’t CYA.
I guess the press conference was his strategy to save the recruiting season. It sounds like somebody is doing some major negative recruiting.
KF needs to develop a better sense of humor about the internet before there is a college football WikiLeaks site, because you know that is coming.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I'm pretty sure we can guess who this is
I guess the press conference was his strategy to save the recruiting season. It sounds like somebody is doing some major negative recruiting.
Someone who has a Hawkeye tattoo on his ankle, perhaps?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Do we have any recruits from Illinois in this class?
Other than the possibility of Coe (who hasn’t committed anywhere but I don’t think Illinois is even on his list)?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Forgot about him
And checked on Coe, apparently it has come down to us and Illinois. So I can see where Zook would be a suspect. But I still gotta thing the primary is Bielema, given that it’s been his m.o. for a while now, at least in regards to us.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I think defending weed use by a 23-year old flamboyant WR
is about as easy as it gets when talking to parents. Now, if this was a freshmen issue…whole ’nother ball game. Even the most helicopter parent understands that you have very limited control over a 23-year old man.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
that is...defending your program in the face of a 23-year old weed user being arrested
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I have used weed once in the past 25 years, as a result of peer pressure, and only peer pressure. But the ensuing 10 hours were better than most.
I recommend peer pressure in a female’s private rooms!
We have no idea if DJK is a weed user. I know that he can bench my whole person with one hand, and I can’t, so I have trouble with labeling DJK some sort of druggie wastrel criminal.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I agree
but the program on the recruiting trail is probably taking a beating right now when the parents are listening to the pitch. When the kid is listening, he probably can care less.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Barta could complain about Bielema's tactics to Delany
but Delany’s defending endorsing “Legends” and “Leaders”. I think the Big Ten office is more on fire than we are right about now.
Well he did say
that somone had been calling parents with ‘crazy theories’ (If I remember correctly)
Agree 100%.
He’s got to know that if he would throw them a bone for ONCE, maybe the media can help him out a bit here.
by CarrollHawk on Dec 14, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't say multiple
if they didn’t have to deal with the interwebs this might not have happended.
A dude gets arrrested, a suspension, and a injured guys leave. Not the end of the world.
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I agree to an extent
A bit more humility and contrition would be expected. Something to the effect of expressing shock and sadness about DJK and the fact that he was involved in something so deeply and the UI was unaware completely; DJK failed Kirk and Kirk failed DJK.
Personally, I think Kirk is just so pissed at having an all time great Iowa player and 5th year senior get burned so badly at the 11th hour and create such a black eye for the program. He knows this program is as clean or better than most. I think it’s glibness covering anger and disappointment.
Yeah I hoped he would say more about DJK
That DJK’s resume has been been built with lots of achievements over his years with the program and shouldn’t be judged solely on his arrest.
by HawkeyeRecon on Dec 14, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
he did say he failed
He said that DJK was a failure on his part
by GMcNhawkeye on Dec 14, 2010 4:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am at lunch, i have five minutes to surf,, can i get the cliff notes version?
i wont be able to read the whole thread til tonight
can i get a cliff’s notesversion?
If Sarah Palin were any smarter rocks would be in trouble
yes
yes it is
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
NO IT'S NOT!!!!
It’s totally KF’s fault for there NOT being a massive criminal conspiracy that was invented almost whole-cloth by baseless speculation and rumor-mongering on the internet! KF should have planted druges on 11 or so players, just so our reaction would be justified!!!!!
Seriously, a lot of people need to check their “sources” after this.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Or set them on fire
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
then eat the ashes with a spoon
And wash it down with bleach. Back to football!
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Can you test positive
for “Bryce Carlson”?
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
dammit man im not a doctor
But maybe we should start weekly screenings around here.
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
We are putting a ban on "BC BS"
effective immediately.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
there are plenty of individuals
Who were complete idiots about the rumors and drugs debate in general. I’m looking forward to getting back to football. And some haphazardly done ms paint fueled ridicule for our big twelve north bowl opponent
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
I like your attitutude Sailor
and your rum
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Oh no doubt
This is a huge relief.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Generally agree
But there has to be some accountablity when you are JUST FLAT WRONG. And, more importantly, repeatedly post things that are flat wrong. When you speak definitively, there are consequences when it turns out you were full of shit
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
to be fair
he may have been half right. Some or all of the players listed may have tested positive. None of them may be suspended.
Regardless, why does there have to be some sort of accountability and consequences? Because YOU look bad for repeating or believing it? it’s an anonymous poster on a message board. Evaluate the information as you would with any other anonymous source – and / or watch that person’s information and evaluate it over time.
Post some links
to the things he said that were “just flat wrong”. My memory ain’t what it used to be but I don’t recall anything Bryce said being terribly wrong. There was so much shit being posted by so many people that it all gets confused. And frankly, this is the fucking internet, people have been spreading lies and rumors since I showed up in 1989. It’s the way it works.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Dec 14, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with Hoya
I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop on that one
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I'm guessing most of everyone's "source"
was a drunk conversation with the sister of a player’s girlfriend’s sister at Brothers or something.
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
twitter.com/dmbmeg
I was always too drunk to read the sign properly.
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
twitter.com/dmbmeg
And you know
I could really see Ricky joking about the whole coke off a toilet seat thing. A lot of it could easily be people taking meaningless comments way out of context
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Yes.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Ya
it is…
Jermelle Lewis is workin' the Minnesota D like a part time job.
by grillinhawk on Dec 14, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Bryce Carlson, you're full of shit. Asshat.
Now I know STANZI NEVER DID COKE OFF A TOILET SEAT SO F U. Although he does hate hippies, and might snort hippies off a toilet seat.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Dec 14, 2010 10:30 AM CST reply actions
I don't know where the suspension rumors came from
But it wasn’t Bryce.
Since those rumors started, he has:
Been right about A-Rob, and said that other players tested positive but WOULDNT be suspended unless they already had strikes against them.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
No, he didn't
Go to any page from the last 2-3 days and Ctl-F find “Bryce Carlson”
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by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Your move
Jewel failed his 3rd drug test and has been kicked off the team. A-Rob, Ballard, Binns and others have all failed a drug test as well. Kirk will announce what players are suspended for the Bowl Game at the end of the week.
They have a 3 strike policy, so as long as the other guys clean up before the next test, they should be fine.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 12, 2010 11:25 PM CST reply actions
.
Right
That’s exactly what I said he said
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by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Then what are we arguing about?
Those things were rumors and he wrote that confirming they were true? Jewel wasn’t kicked off the team and no more players are suspended?
I don't know
I know that people bristle at those that claim to have inside info – especially on website comments. Obviously there’s a lot of backlash today now that we see that things aren’t imploding. But before anyone gets ostracized here, I just want to make sure that we realize that the person being ostracized has made no false claims about player suspensions (i.e. the heart of the false rumors).
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
This post should win an award
as the definition of splitting hairs.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
What exactly did I say that was not true?
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
You didn't write that you knew that 11 guys were going down?
We play tackle football, most of the time.
No? At least, I don't remember writing 11 guys would be suspended for sure
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
But if you can provide me with a quote I'd own up to it.
However, like I said, I honestly don’t think I ever confirmed 11 guys would be suspended. Guys failed their tests. but, as we all heard from Kirk today, no more suspensions are forthcoming.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
You didn't
I already checked
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by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
but the assertion that there were multiple test failures is completely unverifiable. And this wasn’t just a minor aspect to your assertions.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
In defense of the guy,
another way to review the PC is, “Gary Barta and KF today said, ‘Prove it!’ in regard to internet and other schools’ charges that Iowa’s football program is rife with drug use, because Iowa runs a drug testing program that usually works better than it has recently with the all-time leader in pass receiving.”
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Unverifiable by you all, yes
It’s not like the UIAD is going to come out with that information.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
He (BC) is right
But not as guiltless as he’s making himself out to be. He said a number of players failed drug tests and that suspensions would be announced later this week (Friday). And said that Hampton was gone because of multiple failed tests (could be true, but unknown and unverifiable) and ARob was suspended due to drug test (again, possible, but no way of knowing for sure). In short, BC said nothing that was factually untrue, but was worded in such a way as to (1) leave clear implications and (2) leave him with plenty of “outs” if things turned out differently.
It was a very lawerly series of posts. So well done.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Swedes are not a race.
They’re just power-hungry pseudo-Germans whom one should never, ever marry.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Experience?
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
But really
was it because she was Swedish or because she was a Bikini Model? Those’ll give you trouble too
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 14, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, she was a bikini model, absolutely.
And I have no complaints whatsoever about that.
Really, I’m just offering some Norske-Swede humor, nothing to do with BC.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I think we all assumed that was the joke
I thought it was funny.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I think you took a sexist slant on her
and she’s probably a feminist who hates the word feminist. But I have not met a woman younger than 30 who does, for some reason.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Christ, I'm sexist because I said "Baby"? What a humorless world.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Baby, you ain't kidding!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 14, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
No, you're sexist because you think young
women can’t stand up to your rogue behaviour…English spelling makes me smart by the way.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I don't mind if anyone does something sexist, racist, etc.
because being one and behaving like one are two very different things.
At my X-mas party when I got drunk I said something sexist and racist to a very nice young woman. It was not intended to be either, but in the complex world of human communication it happened.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
So I ammend my statement above by saying
you “said” something sexist…
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
No, actually, I didn't.
It was a term of endearment, utterly rejected to be sure, and this thread is now way too narrow, which also makes my head hurt, and I’m going downtown to see Bella after I take an Excedrin Migraine x3.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Probably not his
/whose/who’s humor
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
typo corrections are so 2008
tell Bella that there are no more suspensionz. Enjoy!
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Bella's all woman. So she thinks boys who are obsessed with punctuation and grammar are compensating.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I think boys who are obsessed with grammar and punctuation are
repressed newspaper editors who are looking for every pseudo manly edge they can manufacture in an immediate digital communication environment. But, then again, I don’t flutter.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I'm compensating for nothing!
/weeps in corner
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
you guys are fucking lame
For the record,
I’m not really a feminist. I am a Meganist. I just prefer not to be spoken to in a condescending manner (which Bellanca seems to specialize in). My experience is when people say “baby” and “honey” it’s a way for people to establish dominance over you (and not in the sexy way).
Also, apparently Bellanca didn’t get the memo that only I can condescend to people.
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
twitter.com/dmbmeg
Also
Irony is the person who claims the world to be humorless, yet makes a huge fuss about some harmless commenter posting a satirical .gif regarding people’s perception of black people in this country.
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
twitter.com/dmbmeg
To clarify
My father’s family is Norwegian.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Six of one, half dozen of the other
The short of it is your ancestors did nothing but PILLAGE AND BURN the peaceful peoples of England, France, Spain, etc. etc.!!!!!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
For which I am pleased
muahahahaha
but my mom’s family is Mexican. What do I do?!
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
After my final this morning
that is my lone goal for the afternoon.
Mad Men and Maker’s Mark
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Also, as a student, I commend you to Evan Williams.
Wins the blind taste tests v. Makers, 1/3 the price.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
You can look it up -- no wait, you don't believe in Google.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
I never said I don't believe in Google
I just wouldn’t enjoy working for an employer that frowns upon my interest in college football
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
The Friday announcement
was originally because the player said Kirk wanted to group academic suspensions (post finals) with any possible conduct suspensions. Obviously the internet rumor-mill pandemonium was cause for speaking to the press a little sooner.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Lay off the guy
He gets his info from some source, and that source could be wrong because everybody is susceptible to rumors. Outside of the coaching staff, and probably not even all of them, I’ll bet NOBODY knew exactly what was really going to happen. That includes the players, who can be one of the worst sources of all at times like this, because they think they are in-the-know on everthing. They are not.
This isn’t some matter of life and death, it’s about a college football team. Why not go after the people who WERE ACTUALLY NAMING NAMES.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Bryce was one of the people NAMING NAMES
we’ll see if he was right about Friday being the next hammer-dropping date.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I clarified the Friday thing in another post.
And I was naming names given to me by a player as people he knew had failed their tests, not as those that would be suspended.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
This part
“people he knew had failed their tests, not as those that would be suspended” was less than clear in your post on the other thread. Whether that ambiguity was intentional or not is matter of opinion. Suffice it to say, it could have been worded better in the original (something we are all guilty of from time to time).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I apologize for any ambiguity
Attempting to deal with the information while “studying” for Criminal Procedure, Negotiations and Evidence was too much trauma for my brain parts.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough
Like I said, we all make mistakes. And I’ve probably held you responsible for more than your share of the posts/specluations yesterday.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I was typing a response
But now Bryce is here – he’ll do a better job of defending his comments than I can.
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by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Just to help everybody out
Here is a link to all of Bryce’s recent posts. While your digging through it remember that there is a difference between being wrong and being a liar.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
He was factually true
as far as we can know as of right now, but rather incomplete and (deliberately?) misleading.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I couldn't be any more clear
without outing my source
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
So he was factually true
but that isn’t good enough for you? Since the Apocolypse was cancelled, let’s just go ahead and line some bastards up against the wall anyway because we don’t like how they phrased things.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
you, again, are failing
You really think he was intentionally misleading? C’mon.
I think he was
but I certainly can see where others would disagree. Hence that whole question-mark after a paranthetical “deliberately”.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I think he was absolutely leading us to believe things were worse
Any other reading of it seems silly to me.
(@hdhawk)
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
But not disingenuous about it
You might have a future as a trial lawyer with the parsing and leading you were quite adept at…
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I will take that back-handed compliment
And turn it into foreshadowing!
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
wows
more living, less parsing – you included, methinks
Never hire a 25 year-old lawyer. Just a hint.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
by Bellanca on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fortunately
the actual practice of law in this country is pretty much set up so that you never do.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Bet he's wishing he signed up as Turd Ferguson or something now.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
No kidding
I don’t post under my name and I just talk about football and bad photoshop.
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by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Also.
Hehe
Turd Ferguson, it’s a funny name.
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by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
I've never felt the need to hide behind a fake name.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Well, if I were your client I would advise you as my attorney not to post under your real name if you don't want every single one catalogued by Google.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Yep, posts about Hawkeye football are going to determine my livelihood!
HOGB 4 life.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Holy Order of the Guilded Beaver?
I'm sick, but I'm pretty...
Honesty, Openness and Good Behavior
Thank you, Professor Wetlaufer!
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'm being serious. Any firm you want to join will be printing out and discussing your internet hobby. To each his own.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
And it will make sense
with the rest of my resume. Already got a job, btw
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Fine. Though I suggest you not use your real name on Match.com, also. But I stand aside.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Julian?
Is that you?
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Don't fuck-up on your summer gig
Remember, it’s basically a three-month interview.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I'm not talking about my summer gig
when I say I already have a job.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
He's DJK's roomie.
/not really’d
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 14, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong
They have a 3 strike policy, so as long as the other guys clean up before the next test, they should be fine.
by Bryce Carlson on Dec 12, 2010 11:25 PM CST reply actions
but, I distictly remember the wizz-quiz guy off camera saying that a second failed test was automatic suspension, not three strikes.
I think Ferentz just gave everyone the finger
I didn’t see it as much as hear it
I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.
by codenameduchess on Dec 14, 2010 10:31 AM CST reply actions
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Dec 14, 2010 10:31 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
Close the thread now.
It’s all over.
"Southern PA - We don't boast about our weather, because we don't want you here." - SarcasmJam
by ReadingRambler on Dec 14, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
You just won the internet.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
I'm all over Iowa +4
i don't wife em...i one night em
by smokinthereiff on Dec 14, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
So I don't get to use this now? Damn.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Dec 14, 2010 10:36 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
its the enlarged eye that makes it
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
A positive of the rumors
now DJK doesn’t seem like such a big deal. We were prepared for so much more.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 AM CST reply actions
I'm picking Iowa for my Pickem
buck the trend baby!
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
There are some PISSED ISU fans!
I’ve been told 3 times in the last 15 minutes that all of this is just a cover up.They’re hiding it all until after the bowl game.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
I was wondering about this
But didn’t want to wander over to that part of the interwebz because I want to keep what sanity I have left.
This is a great chance for little brother to flip out
by 6 seconds of hell on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Yep
and them having a losing record is a cover up to keep Coach Paul Rhoades in Ames.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
There are ALOT of Oregon fans in Ames these days.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a drink around here?-Brian
Oh my God you have no idea.
I posted something on facebook a while back in retaliation to ISU fans pulling little brother and got this long write up in reply to how ISU fans are never disappointed in the Clones and this and that about how no one ever gives up on ISU. 2 weeks later I kid you not his status was “Well ISU I give up. I’m an Oregon fan now.”
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Dec 14, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
You can't disprove a negative
And that’s why, ultimately, conspiracy theories (in any of their forms) are so dangerous: once put out there, they take on a life of their own. And they can never be disproved, any evidence that goes against the belief is merely taken as further evidence for it. there will be plenty of people around here the next few days saying this hasn’t “proven” anything, that more suspensions/dismissals are coming. And they may, in fact, be correct. But if they are, they will be so despite themselves, not because of anything they “know”. Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
They keep pushing
Basically, they’re trying to get them to say that someone did fail a drug test but they can still play in the bowl game because of the university policy.
mmm-kay
"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Patrick Vint
http://www.offtackleempire.com
by Bama Hawkeye on Dec 14, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
yes plz this
So I can get out if the format the last week or so of discuss for a bit then get the hell out while the thread burns down
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Ferentz just trolled the shit out of everyone.
The rumor mill got so ginned up that Vegas had to take the bowl game off the boards, and then Captain Kirk just strolls in and says “No new suspensions. Social networking is dumb; don’t listen to it.”
Epic.
+1
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
What I just saw
KF and Barta saying, if you think we should have known that DJK was a drug user then explain his clean drug tests. The only thing we have come up with is, yeah, some people have learned how to fool the test.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
All told
This was just about preserving the program’s reputation, the whole “family” environment thing. Had to explain DJK, even if they really didn’t directly. Parents and donors needed reassurance. A press conference, even the questions afterwards, help do this if handled correctly. And it closes the matter.
Still, its funny how they all bitch and complain about the message boards and social networks. Yes, they fan the flames, but suspicions were out there, questions were out there, and the folks in the athletic department may have been so out of touch to these that in fact the boards ulitmately did them a service. Not likely to have had a press conference, and yet all the murmurs would continue.
In the context of competitive sports, "quit" is the most profane of all four-letter words.
Kirk wants you to attend the games and cheer like a banshee
and then forget about the team until the next Saturday. A bit naive.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
I was annoyed was his ho-hum attitude about losing 5 games in the same manner. This has been an unfortunate distraction but the on field issues with his coaching staff and lousy 2010 performance still remain. I guess this was not the presser to address them but it would be nice to acknowledge that is aware of them.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
That's Kirk. Like any powerful coach
he acts like, “how could you possibly understand it from the outside. I do this for a living! Go back to twittering you jughead” kind of thing. He just conceals his contempt better than most.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
but don't twitter about me, my players, or my program
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Dec 14, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Well, if you are really paranoid, this is all a setup
To later this week – or after the bowl game – when it turns out the players have a drug/prostitution ring running that makes the Miami teams of years back look like Cub Scouts eating too much sugar candy. You know, drugs, guns, hookers, interfering in the gov’ts of minor 3rd world countries. It could explain the 4th quarter collapses.
Then Kirk can stomp off to his NFL job whining about how “the Iowa fishbow finally drove me off.”
IMHO, he’s paid too well to act like he’s been acting.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 14, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
many assumptions here built on assumptions
I have never once heard Ferentz say that he would walk if a reporter asked him a hard questions.The fact is that most of the sports journalists (oximorons) in eastern Iowa are a) lazy homer hacks or b) stupid and lazy homer hacks. There are a few decent reporters but for the most part, you will get better and more timely information on-line.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
He would never say that because he is too smart to say that.
Really, he is just a fairly good-humored version of the Belichick school of press management: say little if you win, say less if you lose.
The reporters have a terrible conflict in that a lot of their customers go mental if someone says anything remotely critical of their deified coaching staff or club. So they’re punished economically if they report on these public figures as though they are public figures.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Minor third world countries?
Like the United Kingdom? No wonder they couldn’t get a government formed, Stanzi kept demanding Blair back in office.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Clearly
all of this was an elaborate mis-information campaign by Ferentz to distract us from those very questions. Bet no one at the presser today asked why we kept giving up 4th quarter leads. Well played KF, well played indeed.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
But do ANY of the pool reporters have the balls to ask those questions?
Iowa reporters are so afraid to ask tough questions because they don’t want to lose access to the program(s). Its not just football. The Fraud and Lick got a lot of passes on tough questions when the message boards were screaming for the obvious to be addressed. Kirk gets the same pass because people are so afraid that if we piss him off, he walks.
The fact that there’s a feeling that if you piss the head coach off that he walks says – at least to me – that maybe our relationship (collectively) isn’t quite what it should be anyway, and if he were to walk, maybe we don’t want the guy as the head coach anyway.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 14, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I am getting too old. my response above was meant to go here.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
me = hawkeye fan
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yard charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Dec 14, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions
so...
i took rumors from friends on campus, here and other sources… some i thought reliable and ended up with…
-20 players suspended
-39 failed drug tests
-Robinson, Hampton, Bernstine, Ballard, Binns, McNutt, and Davis are rumored to be part of the 20
-Ferentz plans to step down
Not to mention I used the phase… “where there is smoke, there is fire” a lot.
Where do i file paper work for rape charges…. the interwebz owned me and finished on my chin…. but with this out come, maybe i should just be happy and accept it.
- Davey Dave
ps...
i was happy to hear about Bernstine… it would have been nice to see him participate with the rest of the team for once…
- Davey Dave
I'm ready to get on to the real business of BHGP now
invading Rock M Nation with snarky taunts and jabs about our superiority.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Its a tough job we all love.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 14, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
was tying to help before we wasted a week with this
And I couldn’t agree more. Battle stations!
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Dec 14, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
it may be like poking a sloth though...they're not like the Cocks over there
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I don't have a good feeling about this game.
Pinkel is an old-school midwestern football guy running a second-level frenzy offense. That’s about the worst combination, for us.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
The crazy part
is their D is probably their better unit this year.
And yet, I still think we win
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
You said
“their D is probably their better unit.”
by Third Generation Hawk on Dec 14, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
we should lose on paper
but there is something askew with both these teams…we are monumental underachievers and they are overachievers. They have not played well outside of the OU game and that was Stoops being an idiot (and for some reason no one ever kills him for that shit).
I think we have a better than 50/50 chance to win and especially if our D-line gets pressure on Gabbert.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
In this instance we are truly fucked.
With no A-Rob or DJK, the offense just became less offensive or more depending on how you look at it. And we are at four fourth quarter collapses and counting.
I’ll cheer for the Hawks anyway. That’s just how I am.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
But that's why we have them where we want them
How many times, in bowls, have we been the underdog and then hit them in the mouth so hard snot-bubbles came out their nose?
Maybe it’s an Iowa thing, but I always feel more comfortable when we are the underdogs.
We're not just underdogs
If he still has the team, he’s got a hell of an “everybody is out to get us, circle the wagons” argument going on. Who knows, they could get pissed out and come roaring out of the gate
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
And, by the way,
If Ferentz really doesn’t like challenging news conferences, this was another of those occasional reminders why he isn’t in, and may never return to, the NFL.
In the context of competitive sports, "quit" is the most profane of all four-letter words.
Good point
Although Belichick is grumpy too.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Dec 14, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Well, a lot of people were wrong about this, myself included
I think a lot of people’s sources got caught up in the snowball, and I chicken littled everything without getting confirmations.
You're at least the second one to atone and admit
Waiting for some others
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 14, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
I wasn't
for once.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
No, you were spot-on.
You correctly predicted that the press conference was a discussion of the weather.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Ha!
Well, I don’t think anyone would have thought it would be a detailed account of the drug testing techniques. But I’s give myself a B+ and you an F. :-)
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
This whole deal
Is just another reason to never root for ISU.
Definitely not the APHAWKALYPSE that was being rumored
Best letdown ever!
I guess I'm most dissappointed to find out
That people don’t always tell the truth on the internet.
(Walks away, softly weeping.)
by Corncob Justice on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It saddens me also
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I blame the media.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 14, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Heading into next year
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if KF disallowed players from using social media.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 3:00 PM CST reply actions
...and coke.
Don’t forget the blow!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
And when things REALLY get bad, sniffing glue
Looks like I picked the wrong week to try to stop.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I understand what you're saying but that policy just seems odd.
Kinda like telling the players they’re grounded and can’t use the phone.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 14, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying I necessarily support it.
But it might not be a bad idea considering this whole shitstorm. It’s a card I can totally see this AD and program playing.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Dec 14, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
well damn
honestly, given this circumstances, this was not only the best scenerio of news we would here today, but one of the least likley, no other students failed even for pot? well suck me sideways.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 14, 2010 4:30 PM CST reply actions
I am reminded of sitting in a bar in Oklahoma City in the late 80's and hearing this voice that sounded like Barry Switzer
I think I had been way too familar with Augie Busch on this late afternoon and turne and said “hey, aren’t you Barry Switzer”
He stopped, turned to me and said “who the fuck are you?”
I don’t htink captain kirk is there yet,,,,,
If Sarah Palin were any smarter rocks would be in trouble
I like this story.
But when did he pull the gat out of his suitcase and shoot you in the knee?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 14, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
hey did you guys hear...
bloodpunch and KF just killed someone behind the K&G on burlington?! its on all the credible news outlets (my facebook, and this blog…)
fightin for president stanzi's fightin americanzis since his first 13 yard charge - syracuse '07
by metcalfrhymeswithblodbath on Dec 14, 2010 6:08 PM CST reply actions
Not really
When you consider that dead fucker sold them dish washing powder for 60 bucks a gram.
by iowabeakster on Dec 14, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
That was kind of awesome
I’m just not too surprised in how it turns out. I’m glad we still have most of a team left for the bowl, but at the same time a small and very selfish part of me would have liked a mass suspension to use as justification for a disappointing season. Oh well. Better off this way, anyway.
I only had a chance to listen to the press conference on the radio, so I’m kind of happy I didn’t have to SEE the thing. Ferentz was a little smug at times, I thought. Basically saying “I only know about DJK what I read in the paper, if that’s even true.” Maybe not the best time to take a shot at those who are staring at you?
I’m mostly just pleased there were a few commenters above who also immediately thought of the Whizzinator when there was talk about beating drug tests (with all due respect to Onterrio Smith).
by Luke Recker No-Look Pass on Dec 14, 2010 9:19 PM CST reply actions
From what I have heard from non-football UI athletes...
they had to go to a separate facility (off campus, or at least a pain in the butt to get to) and give their urine sample.
I do not remember that person telling me that they watched the person give the sample (she was female, but they probably wouldn’t for males or females, right?) So, it would not seem very difficult for an athlete to cheat the test, with a whizzinator or some other means.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 14, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe this all just been Rambler
finding a way around the BGHP “testing” and pulling off the be all, end all “Top this Rumor” version of an alphabet game!
Explination of suspensions...
Is there any precedent in college football for a coach to state specifically why an athlete is suspended?
It seems there must be clear team rules that all the players can recite by heart and thus clear violations. How many classes can an athlete miss before he is suspended? Why shouldn’t the coach give specific answers when the #1 rusher for a bowl bound is suspended? I know this is college but come on. I’m sick and tired of the highest paid ‘State employee’ not just coming out and being completely honest and clear about everything that transpires. I understand that you don’t want a bunch of negative information that can devalue the company but what’s the problem with at least answering basic inquiries honestly.
For example, what if KF came out and said before the Minn game and now, “Robinson will not be allowed to play because he has attended less than 10% of his classes last month.” I don’t get it. What’s the problem? How does it any way hurt KF to just be bluntly honest about such issues.
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