Iowa 37, Michigan State 6: Now That's More Like It
Well, that's what we all expected to happen, right? An easy, dominant win over... which patsy was on the schedule today? What, Michigan State? The fifth-ranked team in the nation? The team Iowa almost never blows out? Yeah, that one. As commenter BornaHawk noted in the open thread, a year ago "7 got 6;" this year Sparty got only six points. Holy hell. Not only did the win mark Iowa's third straight year with a win over a top-five team (#3 Penn State in 2008, #5 Penn State in 2009, #5 Michigan State this year), it was also their third straight win over teams ranked in the top-five. That's a pretty incredible change of fortune in those games for Ferentz-led Iowa teams, considering they hadn't won any until that PSU win two years ago. Depending on how what happens between now and Nov. 20, they may get another crack at a top five team when Ohio State comes to Kinnick, too.
* That's the defense we expected to see. After giving up 52 points in the last five quarters and getting pushed around by the behemoth Wisconsin offensive line last week, the Iowa defense responded with a vengeance yesterday. They didn't record any sacks until reserve defensive lineman Steve Bigach (!) got a sack late in the fourth quarter, but they did a solid job of pressuring and flustering Kirk Cousins -- which directly led to the poor throws that resulted in three Iowa interceptions and 13 Iowa points. The defense also completely stifled the Spartan ground game (31 yards on 20 carries). Part of that was the circumstances of the game -- once Sparty went down 17-0 after the first quarter and 30-0 at halftime, any pretense of a balanced offense went out the window. But the running game was running into a brick wall dressed in black and gold before the score effectively tore out the rushing portion of the Spartan playbook. A special tip of the hat to the linebackers, who were much improved from a week ago. James Morris got the start at MLB and showed exactly why he's going to be so much fun to watch for the next three years -- in particular, his assist on the tackle of Edwin Baker on Sparty's opening possession helped set the tone for Iowa's defense. And it was very good to see Jeff Tarpinian out there again, breaking up plays and making key tackles -- his experience has been sorely missed.
* Tyler "Motherfucking" Sash strikes again! Play of the year so far for Iowa? Yeah, I'd say so. Maybe it's something about this weekend; a year ago, Sash had the incredible pinball pick-six against Indiana and this year he added the soon-to-be-famous lateral pick-six to his resume. Not too shabby. Meanwhile, there was some consternation about the lack of interceptions by the Iowa defense earlier in the season, but they now have seven picks in their last three games -- seems like they're on the right track there.
* 37 points on what the statistics would suggest was a fairly ho-hum offensive performance. Stanzi only threw for 190 yards and the ground game only chewed up 162 yards -- but a defensive touchdown and good field position (two of Iowa's scoring drives started around the Iowa 40) will do that for you. The offense largely shut things down after Iowa went up 37-0 (aside from the WTF pass attempt by McNutt), but they were vital in establishing the tone of the game early on. Iowa marched 80 yards on 12 plays in the game's opening series to open up a 7-0 lead, then marched 64 yards on 10 plays in the next series to get a field goal and go up 10-0. Those early blows shook Michigan State; the interceptions by Sash and Prater (and the ensuing 13 points) put them down for the count. But almost lost in the shuffle was the fact that Ricky Stanzi had yet another very fine day (11/15, 190 yards, 3/0 TD/INT), A-Rob was again superb (20 carries, 69 yards, 1 TD; 1 catch, 32 yards, 1 TD), and Brad Herman was a surprise star (3 catches, 80 yards). And before we move on from A-Rob, a note: he used and abused all-everything LB Greg Jones yesterday on more than a few plays. Three plays in particular stand out; first, on the opening drive, A-Rob went to his patented spin move to escape Jones in the hole and gain more yards; second, on the next drive, he delivered a crushing block on Jones that freed up Stanzi to make a big run; third, he left Jones flailing at this feet on that 32-yard touchdown catch.
* About the special teams... OK, the missed extra point (again!) was disconcerting, but other than that? Pretty solid. Meyer again nailed a field goal, the kickoff and punt coverage was vastly improved (no kick returns went for longer than 20 yards), and Donahue drilled three punts inside the MSU 20. That's definite progress -- now we just need to see them do that consistently.
* And quibbles. Look, it wasn't all perfect -- the missed extra point, certain starters still playing in the fourth quarter (why A-Rob even saw the field after Iowa went up 37-0 is a total mystery; we wanted nothing but a steady dose of the Coked-Up Werewolf at that point), a couple shaky passes by Stanzi, A-Rob fumbling for the first time all year (though Iowa did recover) -- but c'mon. It was a 31-point win over a top-five opponent and a better response than we could have ever hoped for after last week's heartbreaking loss. Dwelling on those few negatives seems horribly misguided (and pointless) right now.
* There are pretty obviously three tiers in the Big Ten. There's the upper crust, with Iowa, Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. There's the middle class, with Illinois, Penn State, Northwestern, and probably Michigan and Purdue. And there's the dregs, Indiana and Minnesota, who may only be able to get wins against one another (unfortunately, they don't play each other this year). The top four teams are 4-4 against one another -- and 10-0 against everyone else. There's only one game left between those teams (OSU @ Iowa on 11/20), so if that holds to form, we're headed to a three-way tie atop the Big Ten standings (either Wisco-Sparty-Ohio State or Wisco-Sparty-Iowa) -- and that scenario isn't good for Iowa. So the question is: can any of the teams from the lower two tiers rise up and knock off one of the top tier teams? For Iowa's sake, let's hope so; in addition to rooting for Iowa to keep winning, we need to hope that teams like Northwestern, Michigan, and Penn State can do us a solid and knock off the other top tier teams (especially Wisconsin).
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Congrats. Thumped our ass...
I expected a close game. I still felt confident even down 17-0. However, I should have known. Our previous two games clearly showed that our O-Line could not run block or pass protect and our undisciplined penalties cost us. However, even if we showed up and played our best, I don’t think we would have been within 14. You guys were on a mission. Lets see if you can keep that pace up. Congrats again.
Thanks
You guys are going to see this for what it was, a perfect storm. Good thing is that everything bad that could happen in your season was taken care of yesterday. When you regroup and kick the shit out of the rest of your schedule you can play in a BCS bowl – might I suggest the ACC or Big East champs? Makes everything better.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 31, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
That's the hope, anyway
Get our Murphy’s Law quota all out of the way when it only counts as one loss, instead of doing the usual bit where we spread it out just enough to lose five heartbreakers in a row.
It's been hinted at a few other places
but Sparty was in an unenviable position yesterday. That loss to Wisconsin finally shook this Iowa team out of their haze and showed folks why the expectations were so high to begin with; they really are that good. While there’s still a lot of season left to play and Iowa could feasibly lose another two games, I have a feeling that by season’s end the 2010 Iowa team will be looked at in much the same way (or at least a Lite version) as the 2002 USC team; a dominant side that inexplicably found a way to lose two regular season games.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 31, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Code...
…you are very gracious in defeat. I felt confident that we would win Saturday, but no way I expected a score like that. Good luck to MSU the rest of the way. I live in FL and have some friends down here who are MSU grads. You are “good people!”
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Sash and Hyde
POY? Oh yea, that is the signature like AC’s blocked punt last year. Ironically against the #5 ranked team in the nation.
Can’t say enough about Hyde’s awareness to be able to grab that ball from TMFS and to work the entire field for the score. Also the quick transition from defense to offense for the team. They had some impressive down field blocks that sprung him.
Amazing to see the secondary all get a pick or score – Norm’s influence is great with this team, let’s keep him in the press box.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 31, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions
This team with Norm=Steely eyed killers.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 31, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
"Norm"...
+1
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Continuing with the F U theme that Kirk seemed to coach with all day
in his press conference Ferentz said that:
That’s a payback for the hook and lateral last year that nailed us; one of those kind of things.
When you add to that the fact that he was calling timeouts at the end of the 1st Half…the reverse pass late in the game…etc…Kirk seemed to have a chip on his shoulder throughout this game and the only thing that I can think of is that he wasn’t happy about having to play against Cell Block D from the East Lansing Jail.
I'm thinking it was more of a statement to the team
Last week KF relied on the D to hold and solidify the game and they did not. I think he realized that the current offense is a weapon (arguably as potent as the D) and that plays are expected to be made in all aspects of the game. I also think the LB corps is on notice, what with the starting of DiBoner and Morris, also subbing an extra DB for a DL on passing downs to help stop the crossing routes.
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by Hooray for Helmers on Oct 31, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Arguably as potent?
Only held under 30 pts once this year and that was a 24-3 win. Even when the D hasn’t done it’s thing, the offense has.
by Off Constantly on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh please let's not make that a nickname that sticks...
…wait, did he raid Prince’s closet?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 1, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Hard not to vote for the defensive backs
but I went with the offensive line. Sort of an entire body of work thing, rather than just for this game. The offensive line is better than I expected this year, and has come a long way since the Arizona game. Stanzi has had all day to throw during the last couple of games (against some pretty decent defenses).
by cbrett42 on Oct 31, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And Ricky has used his time wisely
Its got to give the big fellas some extra incentive to continue working hard when Ricky is just blowing the pass efficiency numbers out of the water right now.
Great write up Ross!
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by The Bird Cult on Oct 31, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
the O-line is looking great. I knew preseason if they were any good it would show in pass blocking first
but they are getting better each week with run blocking. Next year with Coker, Jewel? and A-Rob and perhaps another recruit, we might be hat KF has wet dreams about…smach you’re mouth and if you go 8 in the box, McNutt/Davis, array of TEs.
I think the O-line has insured the offense will be very good for the next couple of years, and of course, the end of this year.
As for Ferentz not lifting starters….he has been pretty shaky in-game the past two weeks. I hope he settles down. I have noticced that KF is a master preparation artist, but if he sees things he did not imagine or (God forbid) preapre for, he really is shaky with in-game decisions.
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by StoopsMyAss on Oct 31, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Crap. Sorry
http://hawkcentral.com/2010/10/30/kirk-ferentz-they-played-a-complete-game/
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by The Bird Cult on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they've been doing a nice job with the run blocking, too.
My second-favorite play of the day (after the pick-lateral-6) was when A-Rob ran for about 6 yards, then the O-line pushed the pile another 5 yards to get a first down.
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Flailing at his feet
A visual is perhaps in order here.

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Yes, I considered going with that play (from a different angle) at the top, too.
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Way too many great moments in this game to choose from
A problem that I think we all could get used to.
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by The Bird Cult on Oct 31, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
It was really a total team ass-kicking of Sparty.
Even the kick-off coverage was impressive. And it was nice to have a few bounces go our way, too, thinking of both fumbles—A Rob and Sandeman’s. Colin was especially lucky since his was early in the game and could’ve swung momentum big time.
I thought at the time there was something off about the hold on the missed PAT, or the timing was off for some reason, and I’m not sure that was Meyer’s fault. That would make missed PAT’s in consecutive games plus a botched snap on a FG. Better get that cleaned-up, boys!
But again, I’m not sure Meyer is to blame. I think he’s going to be pretty steady, and pretty good, pretty soon.
Also, on Marvin’s pass, he had MILES of green in front of him. He shoulda’ tucked it and run.
My theory is that McNutt’s pass was an attempt to get DJK the receptions record on a big play that went for a TD. I really expected (after he didn’t have a catch through three quarters) a short pass to him (maybe even a WR screen) so he could get the record in front of the home crowd. I think they went for the big play option instead, and when it didn’t work, they went back to just running out the clock.
Ferentz said in the post game they were really trying to score a TD, as MSU was stacking
against the run.
Yeah, I’m sure DJK getting the record on a trick play was in the back of their minds, but Ferentz doesn’t strike me as a coach – ala Spurrier – that will insert plays into a game to rub it in on a regular basis.
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by The Bird Cult on Oct 31, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Me either.
But I like this new found mean streak in Ferentz. I am really glad we didn’t get up 17 points and coast.
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by Pain in the Sash on Oct 31, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
DJK GOT LAZY
Sorry, but I think DJK could have laid out for that one. It also gave tOSU something else to think about in the coming weeks. They will be facing a much more dangerous team this year. I ha 3 three Spartys here on the left coast digging at me BEFORE the game but were quickly shut up! GO HAWKS!!!
I was there... it was on my part of the field...
…it was uncatchable. I wish McNutt would have planted and then thrown. It woulda been complete.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 2, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Great game
The stadium atmosphere was one of the best I’ve seen…
I saw a picture of norm; looks like they amputated all the way up to his knee and his other leg is in a boot…now I’m wondering if maybe this is his last year….
Someone ease my pain and fears.
by bornofclay on Oct 31, 2010 10:47 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
My sense is that Norm will be the DC next year
but clearly how he goes about his job will change. I think he will become the tactician and draw up game plans but may not as much “coaching”.
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by StoopsMyAss on Oct 31, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering about that...
Evil genius in the booth on Saturday, and assist with the game plan, and not so much during the week.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
A-Rob didn't have the numbers
But I think he was definitely the most important player on the field.
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His block on Stanzi's run
set the tone. Jones usually does the trucking, but not on that play.
KF was right, a complete game.
And Sash is a true playmaker, wow
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by BentNotBroken on Oct 31, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yeah. For ARob to stick his head in there and NOT get trucked by Greg Jones = impressive to me. A football player. And, he catches out of the backfield. Mancrush.
I'm often incorrect
But wasn’t that block THE hit that preceded a Marcus Hyde late hit on Stanzi??
Real football teams don’t take kindly to cheap shots on their QB.
A-Rob is the man.
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by BentNotBroken on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The good news about a left-out Iowa in a tie-breaker scenario
is that it vastly improves our chances at Smelley Cock Watch redux…or Have A Cigarcia, or whatever.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
I didn't mind play South Carolina
two years ago…but I really don’t want to have to watch this team beat up on a lesser opponent in a mostly meaningless bowl game…especially after that performance yesterday. I agree with your comment above that this is the team that we thought we would see and from here on out…we should be seeing it regularly.
I want to see this team put up against the ultimate test on a big stage because this team can handle it. I will be hoping against hope for an Iowa v Alabama Sugar Bowl.
While I'm personally hoping for an Iowa v. Nebraska Fiesta Bowl
if Iowa were to match up with South Carolina it would be a much different creature than the one the Hawks abused a few years ago; they’re actually good this year.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 31, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Marcus Lattimore is terrifying.
I’d like to avoid S.Carolina, and agree that the Neb-Iowa Fiesta is the best non-Rose bowl scenario.
by The Mexican't on Oct 31, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Lattimore is good, but if the linebackers get healthy and the d-line plays like yesterday, I'm not too terrified.
Alshon Jeffery, on the other hand, would be a damn terrifying match-up for our corners.
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I had forgotten about the few times I've seen them play
and the beastliness that he has displayed. I think they’ve got a pair of pretty good wide receivers…I’m still not worried about it. Considering that we could take our performance from yesterday…and build on it yikes for the rest of the world.
We've seen what Sakerlina has to offer.
Wisconsin has a powerful running back and a stable of decent pass catchers in Toon, Gilreath and Kendricks. While we had the benefit of Keyshawn Martin’s injury on Saturday, Dell, Cunningham, Linthecum and Gantt aren’t too shabby either. And by the time we get to bowl season we’ll have played tOSU’s stable of wideouts.
I’m not saying that any of them are as good as Jeffery, but I don’t know that big, strong, fast WRs are going to be completely foreign to us regardless of who we play.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Nov 1, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
we'll see how we do against big, strong, fast WRs this weekend
It seems like Indiana’s WRs are all 6’3" or taller and are the strength of their team with Chappell being relatively efficient.
by PackerHawk on Nov 1, 2010 12:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
that comment just gave me a James Hardy flashback
I hope the outcome is better this time.
Since 1975, Iowa 23 - everyone else combined 12
Iowa-Neb in the Fiesta is probably impossible.
As Bama pointed out over at OTE, the Fiesta gets the last at-large pick this year and if Iowa is eligible to be picked, I can’t imagine they’re still sitting there as an option for the Fiesta when they would be able to pick.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I typed up a hypothetical scenario in which Nebraska wins the BigXII and Iowa is chosen as the third at-large.
But realized it’s not going to happen. If we get the chaos necessary to limit the replacement selections to one, an at-large Iowa would likely go to New Orleans to play SEC Champ South Carolina (Yeah, I went there.) or back to Miami to play ACC Champ VA Tech. The Fiesta gets stuck with BigEast Champ v BigXII Champ Nebraska.
In summation, the chaos scenario I came up with requires the following:
- Auburn beats Alabama to win the SECW but loses to South Carolina in the SECCG.
- Oregon continues to run over everyone and Arizona gets the Rose Bowl bid as the Pac-10 number 2.
- TCU jumps Boise in the polls and finishes as the BCS #2
- Iowa wins out, Wisconsin does not lose and Sparty represents the BigTen in the Rose
- Nebraska defeats OU in the BigXII title game
- Iowa chosen as the first at-large over Wisconsin & Oklahoma for no good reason (shameless homerism / S.Carolina re-match storyline?)
- VA Tech and Pitt win the shit shows that are the ACC and Big East
If all goes to plan (and it will), the bowls shake out as follows:
mNC – Oregon v TCU
Rose – Arizona v Sparty
Orange – VA Tech v OU
Sugar – South Carolina v Iowa
Fiesta – Nebraska v Pitt
If any of this is unpossible, then I blame my Mexican ancestors for limiting my CFB/BCS selection process knowledge.
by The Mexican't on Oct 31, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
For reference, per BamaHawkeye
Bowl selection process (and the choices per my ridiculous hypothetical) is
Replacement for #1 (Arizona)
Replacement for #2 (n/a)
Sugar: SEC Champ + (Iowa)
Orange: ACC Champ + (Oklahoma)
Fiesta: BigXII Champ + ( SCRAPS Big East Champ)
by The Mexican't on Oct 31, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That seems technically possible.
Just really unlikely.
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So I moved this giant, stupid wall of text to a FanPost.
Because, really, that’s where it belongs and also to make it easier for me to hunt it down to make edits.
by The Mexican't on Oct 31, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude,
way over my head, or my interest level.
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Doesn't the Rose have to pick a non-AQ if they lose a Pac 10 or Big 10 team to the MNC?
We talked a lot about Iowa not going to the Rose back when OSU was in position for the MNC. I can’t imagine that rule only applies to the Big Ten and not the Pac 10. So if Utah, TCU, or Boise are still on the board and qualify, the Rose HAS to take them.
by PackerHawk on Nov 1, 2010 12:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, but not if said non-AQ is in the title game.
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I believe so.
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Dufresne in Monday LA Sports writes...
“This is also the first season the Rose Bowl must take the highest-rated non-automatic-qualifying team if it loses an anchor to the BCS title game. The Rose would lose Oregon if the Ducks win out. THAT MEANS (emphasis mine) there’s a decent chance TCU, Utah or Boise State will play in Pasadena.”
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I don't want to be the guy
who overreacts after one victory and starts belittling everyone else…well actually I’m alright with it so fuck it.
South Carolina slipped one in on Alabama…plain and simple. They are…like most of college football this year…a marginal team fighting for a spot in the top 25 during a normal season. There are barely a handful of teams that I would consider suitable opponents for Iowa if we play like we did yesterday which is the way most of us thought we would play all year if our OL played well…which they are.
I consider the 3 best teams in college football…in some order (not necessarily this one) to be:
1.) Iowa
2.) Alabama
3.) Ohio St
I’m still not sold on Ohio St because they haven’t done anything overly impressive this year but I’m willing to give them a pass based on the results of last year (which is essentially the same team as this year) and the fact that they’re fucking Ohio St…so they get a bit of a pass in my book.
I had a break down of all the other teams half way typed up…but I didn’t want to get too long-winded…and I realized that I really don’t know much about Auburn and South Carolina…and the only thing I know about Oregon is that most of the Pac 10 plays defense about like Michigan and I did watch the Rose Bowl last year which told me a lot.
I'm not sure I can get on-board with your top-3.
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by Kyle McCann't on Oct 31, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw Oregon play USC last night. Maybe they belong on the short list.
…But I’d sure like to see them against someone Big and Physical…
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When you run an offense that fast and precise
I’m not sure physicality will help a whole lot. Plus, they’re not as finesse as everyone seems to think; their wideouts get down the field and lay some serious blocks. Plus, I don’t consider Stanford or even USC to be particularly “soft”. Oregon is excellent.
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by Kyle McCann't on Oct 31, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Would you expect a different result
if Oregon and OSU met up again in the Rose Bowl this year? If so, is there any particular reason?
These are essentially the same teams from last year…and Oregon was doing this same thing last year. People wanted so hard to forget that Boise dismantled Oregon early on last year and beaten by Stanford and just put them in the NCG because OMG they score 40 points every game…but as it was they went to the Rose Bowl to run circles around OSU.
tOSU might win
but if you expect it to be in the same blowout fashion then I think you’re not taking a few things into consideration. First off, Pryor had the game of his career in that Rose Bowl. While he’s played well in spurts this season he has done nothing to indicate that the ‘10 Rose Bowl is the level of performance we should expect from him. Second, Chip Kelly is now in his second full season as head coach. No Legarrette Blount or Jeramiah Masoli distractions, no first-year growing pains. Oregon is better at QB, better at RB and now has a team with a full season of experience running a fairly complex system under their belts. They are a superior team to last year’s version.
And I still haven’t seen anything from Wisconsin that leads me to believe they are a top-5 team.
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by Kyle McCann't on Oct 31, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's pretty clear why Pryor went off like that against Oregon
to me anyway. And the extent to which you believe Oregon is for real this year is the extent to which you believe in Stanford and USC. I choose to consider them both very mediocre. Stanford gave up 388 rushing yards to a team that they go up 21-3 on. The day that happens to Iowa, Wiscy, MSU, OSU, PSU…etc…I’ll reconsider my argument.
Oregon's offense
Is not complex. They have only a few different pass plays and all of the running plays are zone/option read out of basically the same formations. The difference is they play with such a fast tempo that teams can’t adjust. OSU kept it simple on D last year and it worked and Oregon couldn’t just beat them with their speed like they did everyone else.
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by The Bird Cult on Nov 1, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Oregon is a different beast this year
Their defense is slightly better than last years, but their offense is on a different level. James is in the top 5 fastest players in the country, and the pace they play at is significant factor. It wears you out quickly, unless you’ve been practicing that way for an extended period of time. I remember plenty of times this season where Clayborn (and probably others, he just sticks out in my mind) has been sucking wind in no-huddle situations. That is how they play the whole game. On the one hand, I want to see how our defense would fare against their O, but I’m not so sure anymore.
Oregons and Stanford r overrated
I’m sorry, does anyone in the Pac-10 play defense? Contain your gaps and make them earn every td w/10-12 play drives. Oregon kills people w/ they’re tempo and quick 3 n outs by the offense of the opposing team. I think any team in the top tier of the Big Ten (minus mich st) wears them down with physical line play on both the offensive and defensive lines. And Stanford will lose again if not twice
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by smokinthereiff on Oct 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Smokin,
Pac 10 sucks this year. The SEC is weak, although Auburn has to be considered a top level team. Fuck Boise State! They are 7-0 in their sissy conference, while Auburn is 9-0 in the SEC, and ranked behind Boise.
That leaves the Big 10 and the (gag) Big 12 as the two premium leagues this year.
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Look at what MSU did against Notre Dame
Won in OT
Now look at what Stanford did: Won by 20+
Arizona State lost by 1 pt. @Wisconsin
Arizona beat Iowa
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by Not Marv Cook on Nov 1, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but we spotted them 21 pts early
and then weren’t quite able to dig out of that hole.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Nov 1, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
That's fair
but the argument is that the Pac-10 can’t play D.
We got 27 that game (although 7 from Binns).
That’s in line with what the O has gotten us in the Big Ten.
Does the entire Big Ten fail at defense?
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Nov 1, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Transitive Property does not apply in CFB
By that line of logic…Iowa is better than Michigan State who is better than Wisconsin who is better than Iowa.
Every statistic I looked at favored the Big 10 as far as comparing defenses…including comparing non-conference points allowed per game…and non-conference points allowed per game to (what I would consider) quality non-conference opponents (BCS schools and ND, BSU, TCU, etc.). Much of those statistics are unusable because it’s not very good data.
Interesting stat:
Oregon punted 11 times against Arizona State…a game in which Oregon scored 42 points. By comparison here are the total number of drives Iowa has had in each game including end of half and end of game drives (12, 14, 13, 13, 10, 13, 11, 12).
Another interesting stat:
Number of teams allowing <21 PPG*
Big Ten 7/11 – 63.6%
Pac 10 2/10 – 20%
*I chose that number partially because it favors the Big Ten the most (Stanford is #3 in the Pac 10 with 21.3 and the Big Ten has 4 teams between 20.0 and 20.3) and partially because…well yeah I chose it because it favors the Big Ten the most.
A Pac-10 fan could say they're playing better offenses.
Whether that’s true or not is debatable (Oregon beats anything we’ve got here, but Michigan has a pretty damn explosive offense between footgunnings and MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, and OSU don’t exactly have shitty offenses either).
If we played
Week-in, week-out like we did yesterday… apso-fucking-lutely. However, since I can’t get AZ or WI performance out of my mind, not so much.
If we played, we played shitty...
Against AZ. Going in to the WI game, I thought we were gonnaget a butt kickin’ – based on how they abused tOSU! After the WI game, I thought we should have won (G damn that fake punt)! I feel really good about what we will do the rest of the year. I was hoping for a top 5 team, but with our two losses, it won’t happen.
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Slipped one in?
Holy shit, South Carolina impregnated Alabama? Wal-Mart stock just shot up, NASCAR is about to begin a renaissance, and ESPN just got more reasons to talk about SEC SPEEEEEEEEED.
(Sorry. Too easy.)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 1, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
The "Pac-10 cant play defense" meme
is as tired as the “Big 10 is slow” meme.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Nov 1, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Eh. Maybe.
I haven’t watched a lot of Pac-10 football this year, but I distinctly remember watching the whole Oregon/Oregon State game last year and the tackling was horrible. A bunch of arm tackles, poor form, poor gap discipline. After seeing that and knowing what tOSU’s defense was capable of, I felt pretty confident that the Buckeyes would win that Rose Bowl matchup.
Maybe things have improved in the Pac-10 this year. Like I said, I haven’t seen enough of their games to know for sure. I thought Arizona was generally pretty stout, though, and I think if Oregon can get past Arizona then I think that erases a lot of doubts about their ability to play against good defenses.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Nov 1, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
The quibbles
or should I say the nice thing about them, is that they were minor enough as to not affect us, but obvious enough that KF will have plenty of talking points this week. No complacency.
The defensive backfield did a great job, especially considering that they were in pass first mode most of the day.
OT: congrats to Baylor and Penn State. A couple of great wins for them.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 31, 2010 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
Just stinks that UGA couldn't complete the comeback
as seeing Florida, Michigan, Texas and USC lose on the same day would have been a great episode of “I Hate The Aughts!”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 31, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Kyle,
I live in FL, and hate the Gators. They suck. Unfortunately, with teeth like that they can make it really painful.
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Hi guys, I'm back...
The Wisconsin loss was so devastating for me that I took a VOW OF SILENCE never to speak of Iowa Football again (or until they started winning). Yesterday’s game was one of the happiest Hawkeye moments of my life. The Pick-Lateral-Six was a THING OF BEAUTY. To paraphrase our Fearless National Leader, THIS IS THE TEAM WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR.
I believe, sincerely believe, they are going to stick around. HOW ‘BOUT THEM FUCKEN’ HAWKEYES!?
"There will be lots of awards and decorations in it for you."--Major T.J. "King" Kong (Slim Pickens), "Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
Sorry Bro,
I didn’t know you were gone!
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Oh yeah Coked-Up Werewolf? Help me out...
"There will be lots of awards and decorations in it for you."--Major T.J. "King" Kong (Slim Pickens), "Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
It's a Conan thing.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Oooohhh, that explains it. The only time I ever watched Conan was when he had Slipknot on.
"There will be lots of awards and decorations in it for you."--Major T.J. "King" Kong (Slim Pickens), "Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
too many good options from the list
I ended up going for A-Rob. Everything changes when you score on that first drive, and then that block on Stanzi’s scramble led to the second score. The amazing after-contact running he does kept drives alive. The O-line, Stanzi and the defense all deserve a piece of it, but putting MSU ina hole early probably forced some of the bad throws, and the guy probably most responsible for that lead (I know, its close) was Robinson.
Now, lets see how we handle a big win.
In Norm we trust.
So it was A Rob that threw that block that sprung Stanzi?
Couldn’t get a number off the tube and VO’s didn’t say. It wasn’t a just-stand-in-the-way block, it was a true bruiser.
I’m all for A Rob, I just WORRY ABOUT HIS HEALTH.
"There will be lots of awards and decorations in it for you."--Major T.J. "King" Kong (Slim Pickens), "Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
I went with ARob
I think mostly because I continue to be amazed by him. He was simply average last year. And while his size, speed, and explosiveness are still nothing special, he has shown much better vision, and he reminds me a lot of Betts with how hard he runs. He simply doesn’t quit on a play. He deserves all accolades that come his way this post-season (assuming he doesn’t get shut out). Stanzi has been great this year; better than we could have imagined. But I don’t think it’s possible without ARob playing the way he has.
One more thing...
FYI, BTW and FWIW usually the only thing printed about the Hawks in the Sunday LA Times Sports Section is a one para blurb about their win or loss. This morning, Hawks featured in a box on front page, directing you to two stories about Hawks inside.
First story was general news about the game with such quotes as (emphasis mine)… “Iowa EMPHATICALLY knocked Michigan State off the pile of unbeaten teams”…“Iowa handed MSU first loss STOMPING them…”,“Iowa opened with an IMPRESSIVE DRIVE.”…“The ROUT…”. etc.
Second story by Chris Dufresne, LA Times Columnist on all things BCS. He referred to MSU as getting “EAR HOLED” by Iowa (gee, I thought we were the “corn” state), And quoted Coach Dantonio as saying “I did not see this coming” (!). Added Dufresne, “Others did.”
I know, I know, quoting Dufresne and LA Times is frowned upon around BHGP’s parts but, hey, there’s nothing wrong with a little National Respect.
"There will be lots of awards and decorations in it for you."--Major T.J. "King" Kong (Slim Pickens), "Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
Nice to get props from the LA Times
That’s a tough crowd. Other national headlines were using the word stomp too.
Quit worrying about which bowl game folks… Let’s focus on going to Bloomington and getting the W next week, OK? :-p
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 31, 2010 2:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not me!
But the LA Times in general hates Big 10 football and hates us.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 31, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was Zulu.
“Firing” off e-mails. Reading about it was like LA Resistance on the Western Front (Hawkeye style).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 1, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Other - James Morris deserve an "atta boy"
for anchoring the best defensive effort of the year in his first start as a Hawkeye. On Saturday we saw a probable future all american in the dawn of his career. MLB will be in good hands for the next 3 years.
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Klug,
He has been fantastic… What was he rated out of HS? Two stars? Great to see him come in and contribute. GO HAWKS, and go to all the Iowa kids we recruit into the program.
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I believe he was 3
but I’m not sure, I really don’t pay attention to that stuff. But since he’s from Solon I always paid attention to what he was doing. He was a flat-out stud in HS, both at LB & RB. I heard some stories from coaches that he was the most competitive kid they had ever seen (in a good way).
I read his "props"
He was a totally complete player at Solon! Great athlete! Are you from the Solon area, and did you ever see him play in HS?
I pay attention to the “stars.” That’s what seperates us from the tOSU’s and the Alabama’s in big time college FB.
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I'm from West Liberty
so they were in our conference (although I’m 9 years older than him). I still like to keep tabs on teams from the area when they do well. My brother and I went to the state title game when Morris was a soph. He put his team on his back even then. It was pretty clear at that point he was a stud (although high school studs in Iowa often end up at Wartburg, Central, and the like – no offense to the D3ers!!).
3 Stars...
…but that was because he committed to Iowa as a Sophomore in HS so the ratings services had no reasons to look at him.
Prolly shoulda been a 4 Star.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 1, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
He was a high 3* guy.
He wasn’t really a diamond in the rough guy — people knew he would be good. The only question mark on him was that he played against 2A competition in Iowa, but he also did very well in camps against other recruits. He probably would have generated more interest in recruiting if it hadn’t been a dead certainty he was going to Iowa (his dad’s the head equipment manager).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I recall hearing somewhere
that he had letters from virtually every major program in the country but made it clear that he was a Hawkeye from the beginning. I think you are correct…had he opened it up and had the list of offers that he likely would have garnered he’s at least a 4 star prospect.
Yeah.
He more or less committed as a sophomore, I think, and as soon as it was apparent he was going to be a legit D-I prospect, it just as evident he was going to Iowa. I think he was every bit the prospect that some of the more decorated Iowa guys in recent years — Bernstine, Davis, Wegher, etc. — but because of the way he handled his recruiting, he didn’t garner as much attention.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
My day wasn't complete until a group of MSU tailgaters was thanking us for keeping it within 50
I told them to be glad they weren’t playing Tressel, Rodriguez, or Bielema in that situation. Then added “or Dantonio” under my breath.
I forgot to set the DVR
before heading to Kinnick. Does anyone know if ESPN will be replaying the game sometime this week?
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Looks like there's a 2hr version on ESPNU from 1-3am CST tonight.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
thanks
"Have you ever had the Hot Pocket Hot Pocket? It’s Hot Pocket inside a Hot Pocket. Tastes just like a Hot Pocket."
Voted for the CBs and safeties
My heart wants to vote for A-Rob, to whom I would vote for “Hawkeye of the year”. His individual effort level has made up for the loss of Hampton and Wegher. His yardage after contact (spin and keep pushing) is a joy to watch.
My brain wants to vote for Stanzi and the O-line… they are both executing and overachieving, and making the offensive into something that is exceeding expectations and a lot of fun to watch.
But THIS game, I vote for the CB’s and safeties. They gave up the short passes underneath and just waited for their opportunities. The CB’s and safeties knew what to do and just plain “did it”. I don’t get a chance to “see” to many games (stupid work). But it seems like they ran a 3 man line more than I expected. They did a number of things defensively that surprised me (including run defense). And it all worked perfectly. They couldn’t go deep without it landing in Hawkeye hands. Cousins has been effective all year, and just looked like a lost puppy.
Tyler mother fucking Sash and Hyde… play of the year, so far.
They definitely ran more 3-4 yesterday than they have all year, I think.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So far?
i dont see how a lateral after an interception that results in a touchdown gets passed by anything. Stanzi would have to throw a pass to himself then run into the endzone carrying both the football and the American flag, then help a pregnant woman give birth as his endzone celebration for something like that to be passed. that play was rediculious.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 31, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a lot of football left to play...
“Stanzi would have to throw a pass to himself then run into the endzone carrying both the football and the American flag, then help a pregnant woman give birth as his endzone celebration”
that this isn’t just probable, but highly likely…
USA USA USA
by iowabeakster on Nov 1, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
New Polls are out...
Iowa hovering at 14/15 in the live polls, #18 in the BCS poll.
"There will be lots of awards and decorations in it for you."--Major T.J. "King" Kong (Slim Pickens), "Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
iowa is at 16 in the BCS according to ESPN
Iowa? I could have sworn this was heaven. Field of Dreams, 1989
Forget the BCS, which is bullshit anyway. Let's concentrate on good mojo for Ws
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by The Bird Cult on Oct 31, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Iowa wins out, and the BCS ranking will take care of themselves. Granted, we are hoping for a (in my mind, likely) Wisconsin loss, but Iowa can’t afford to worry about what the Badgers do.
DID I MISS IT? LAST THOUGHT
Did D’antonio ever concede that they had their asses handed to them by the hawks or was it more of the snow ball bullshit that he hallucinated?
Although I voted for the OL... It must be said...

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
I took the O-Line
because this supposed “weakness” has surpassed my expectations this season. They don’t excel at opening gaps for A-Rob, but they’re not exactly getting pushed around, either. And if Stanzi seems like a new QB this year it’s because in addition to having gained some judgement he has largely had plenty of time in the pocket; Saturday was a prime example of this.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
DING!!! DING!!! DING!!! We have a winner.
The o-line played like pro’s. I think the o-line set the tone for the game on that opening drive and the d-line followed the lead. I see good things in the Hawks future with the continued improvement on the o-line. The o-line is the bedrock on which an outstanding offense is built.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Nov 1, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Other - Norm in the booth & Captain America Herky
Their presence was played out by the entire team. Great performance all the way around.
Since 1975, Iowa 23 - everyone else combined 12
Favorite quote so far from the The Only Colors game thread...
“Reality sucks… MSU finally looking like MSU”
Not exactly a SPARTY NO! But it’s damn close.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 1, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions
I have a feeling that we are going to win out
and that this will end up being a very painful “what if” season when it’s all said and done.
by HawkeyeInColumbus on Nov 1, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions
Mike Daniels
How is big Mike D not getting more votes here?? Agreed that this was one of the toughest MVP votes so far this year, but every time I watch this guy, he impresses me more and more. He’s like a copy of Adrian Clayborn except he’s not double/triple teamed every play. This guys got NFL written all over him.
I was in Denver this weekend
The headline for the story in the Sunday Denver Post was “Stanzi, Hawkeyes destroy Spartans” I just sat and gazed at that for a while…..so sweet.

























