The Takeaway: Wisconsin
Sure, Iowa just lost to Wisconsin, 31-30. But how much do we really know? What was so important about losing to Wisconsin? What does it all mean, Basil? The Takeaway has the answer.
The season's not over. It's not easy to say or believe after watching Iowa drop a game at home, but as one FanPost reminds us, Iowa's path to the Rose Bowl is still relatively simple--if not necessarily likely. If Iowa wins out and Wisconsin drops one more game (probably either @Michigan or their home finale against jNWU, who is absolutely earning the j these days), Iowa still goes to Pasadena.
Of course, that's dependent on Iowa beating Michigan State, Northwestern, and Ohio State (if Iowa can't beat Indiana or Minnesota, after all, this discussion is pretty far detached from reality at the very outset), but hey, that's great. If Iowa wins out--and that's hardly a stretch--they'll certainly have earned their way to a Top 10 ranking and a major bowl game. At worst, 10-2 from here puts Iowa in the Capital One. So yes, there's a lot to play for, and a lot of merit in still watching this team perform.
Iowa's depth at linebacker isn't at a high level yet. Of the key plays of the Iowa-Wisconsin game (one that had no shortage of them), one of the more unsung but important moments was when Jeremiha Hunter injured his knee on the sidelines early in the second half. Hunter was in and out after that, but clearly ineffective, and neither Shane DiBona nor Lance Tillison were nearly as good in relief.
Further, at middle linebacker, Jeff Tarpinian and Troy Johnson were both limited again this week, which meant that in the fourth quarter, Iowa had to call on James Morris once again. Morris was fine, mind you; he didn't blow anything as near as we could tell, and he's probably penciled into the starting MLB spot for the next three seasons. But think about it: at crunch time, Iowa was trotting out DiBona (redshirt freshman), Morris (true freshman), and Tyler Nielsen (first-year starter) against arguably the best offense in the Big Ten. That's not meant to be an excuse, but just the reality of the situation: Iowa was bringing first-year-on-the-field guys against Wisconsin's offense during the fourth quarter. We shouldn't be that surprised that WIsconsin scored 31 points.
This is not to make excuses or to delegitimize the Badgers' win, of course; Wisconsin was every bit as wracked by injury as was Iowa, and their list of casualties read as a who's who of the Badger offense; at tailback, James White left early after a leg injury, and John Clay was limited with wrist problems during the third quarter. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin's vaunted tight end, hurt himself early in the game and played sparingly. Top wideout Nick Toon was non-existent for the Badgers. And all that's just the skill positions on offense. All of which is to say, Iowa's two-deep on defense is still awfully top-heavy, to the severe detriment of the team.
Adam Robinson continues his quiet awesomeness. When it comes to picking an offensive MVP, the honor for Iowa still probably goes to Ricky Stanzi; the President is now up to second in the nation in passing efficiency after a 25-37, 257, 3-0 performance against Wisconsin. More than that, though, he's clearly the vocal and emotional leader of the Iowa offense, and that's been evident ever since last season.
And yet, just like last week, it would be borderline criminal not to acknowledge the production of Adam Robinson, who continues to soar past expectations (including ours) and prove himself as a legitimate Big Ten running back. A-Rob's backups are two true freshmen--both of whom are coming off injury--and yet in the four games after Jewel Hampton's knee betrayed him, Robinson has averaged 26 carries per game at more than five yards a pop; all in all, A-Rob is fourth in the Big ten in rushing, and 18th nationwide. Again, with no more real help for the rest of the season.
But for all the improbabilities of Robinson's run at tailback, there's nothing that can explain it quite like just watching him play; Robinson's unorthodox stride is reminiscent of Brian Calhoun or even Tavian Banks, while his ability to avoid the brunt of big hits is more like late-career Jerome Bettis. As a formula, it shouldn't work. But it does, and wonderfully so, and it sure would be nice to see Robinson feted by the usual media services at the end of the season.
But yes, the special teams are a problem. When it comes to missed field goals, returns, and all other aspects of special teams that directly affect the final score, Iowa has played in two games this season wherein one team gave away more points than were necessary to turn the game. Iowa lost both. Aganst Arizona, Iowa gave up a kickoff return for a touchdown and allowed a blocked punt inside the 10. Against Wisconsin, the Badgers blocked an extra point and watched a field goal get aborted by a bad snap.
So now where does Iowa go? I don't know. I really don't know. It'd sure be nice if their retaliatory statement was to send off the rest of the conference with losses, though.
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has jelled very nicely this year. There were times when Stanzi had all day to throw and they have been consistently good at forming a pocket to throw from.
by Off Constantly on Oct 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions
Plus
I was really surprised how well Gettis played in relief of MacMillan on Saturday. Last season (in very limited appearances) and even this season, Gettis looked like a clear step down from MacMillan (who has bee surprisingly very good). This may be in large part to lingering effects from the injury Gettis suffered in camp, but he looked like a different player out there Saturday. Which certainly bodes well for next year as Vandevelde is the only starter graduating. It would be great to basically plug in one of Gettis/MacMillan in his spot and have a line, all of whom have significant playing experience.
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What frustrates me most is that on offense, we have been clicking
ARob racked up another great performance, and Stanzi’s stats are through the roof. Again. If we were undefeated right now, he’d probably be on the Heisman watch list. I’m still a bit concerned that on occasion, the coaches shut the offense down, which wouldn’t be a problem if our bend-but-don’t-break defense could hold. However…
…Clayborn et al, while still dominant, just aren’t able to get to the QB often enough to disrupt the pass, IMO. Which sucks because our LB and secondary seems to be a bit overwhelmed at times.
And then there’s the extra special fuck ups of our extra special special teams. Yeesh.
Coming in to the season, my concern was the place kicking portion of special teams. Surprisingly, Meyer has stepped up beautifully in that role, having only missed one FG of all that he’s actually attempted. But two blocked XPs, big returns on kick-offs, a blocked punt, fake punts given up.
Oh
And the OL, which was the biggest of our concerns coming in to the season, has done much better than I would have expected. You can argue that the Arizona loss was probably due to the inability to protect Stanzi, but still. It was the 3rd game of the season and it was baptism by fire for those guys.
Those problems aren't independent factors
Tarp/Johnson and Nielsen being not as good in coverage as Angerer and Edds factors into the Dline not getting as much pressure just as much as the other way around. Receivers coming across the middle are getting open quicker on us this year than last, thus the pass rush doesn’t have as much time to apply the pressure. The Dline has been as dominant as we thought it would be, but the problems and their causes go both ways.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Can't we put to rest the notion this D-line is dominant?
They’re just not.
by Internet Legend on Oct 26, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
I have to agree with you.
Obviously their good. But certainly not the invincible line many people (including myself) thought they would be at the beginning of the year. It’s pretty clear that against a good to excellent O-line- such as we’ve seen the past two weeks- they’re not going to annihilate guys.
I disagree.
What we saw Saturday was the most dominate O-line vs the most dominate D-line. And for the most part the D-line did as well if not better than any other D-line that’s faced Wisky’s O-line – certainly since they started to jell just before the OSU game.
You have to remember that the front four have been having to pick up the work load for most of the front 7. This is where we really, really miss Angerer and Edds.
What we were expecting to see was an absolutely dominate front SEVEN but in the form of just the front four. This is why so many of us are disapointed. Yeah, our expectations were out of whack. But as for how the front FOUR have been doing they are absolutely dominate for what the front FOUR are supposed to do – and then some.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Oct 26, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree mostly with your disagree
The Dline couldn’t penetrate on short yardage situations, but held the backs in check for most of the game. I would say stalemate with Wisky Oline, who executed consistently the whole game. They’re good.
It's painful to see an Iowa offense like this being undone by special teams blunders and a few defensive failings.
Stanzi’s having a tremendous season and on pace to have one of the best seasons an Iowa QB’s had in the last 30 years. A-Rob is having the best non-Shonn season by an Iowa RB since at least Albert Young in 2005 — and maybe beyond that, given the circumstances (at least Young had Sims and kinda sorta Greene to spell him). DJK is having a great year and on pace to have one of the best ever for an Iowa WR.
And yet there Iowa sits at 5-2, its Big Ten championship and Rose Bowl dreams hanging by a thread and needing to beat a top-5 team this weekend. All because of two painful losses where the special teams made gaffe after gaffe. Ugh.
Also:
But for all the improbabilities of Robinson’s run at tailback, there’s nothing that can explain it quite like just watching him play; Robinson’s unorthodox stride is reminiscent of Brian Calhoun or even Tavian Banks, while his ability to avoid the brunt of big hits is more like late-career Jerome Bettis. As a formula, it shouldn’t work. But it does, and wonderfully so, and it sure would be nice to see Robinson feted by the usual media services at the end of the season.
Yes, this times a million. I freely admit that I thought by this point in the season Jewel would be the man at RB and that A-Rob would be dutifully spelling him for 5-10 carries a game, but that’s about it. But he’s been amazingly impressive, all things considered, and even if AIRBHG hadn’t wreaked his havoc upon Jewel yet again, I can’t fathom that A-Rob wouldn’t still be a vital part of this offense. He’s developed into a pretty reliable pass-catcher and it’s a blast to watch him run. He’s not a burner in the open field (obviously), but he does such a great job of following his blocks and hitting holes and making guys miss and dragging guys after the initial contact… so great.
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I think he seems to be continuing to improve.
His timing hitting the holes seems much better.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 26, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
His vision is unparalleled
Even with the benefit of replay I rarely have seen him miss a hole or go the wrong direction on a run. It’s incredible.
by Internet Legend on Oct 26, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa offense better than Iowa defense?!
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I don't believe the botched FG is an issue
because they went three and out and we used that field position to get a touchdown right away. If we get a FG there they maybe gash our kickoff team and go score. Instead, they were very conservative there. So, in terms of special teams i am only focused on the missed X-point and the kickoff coverage. Oh, and that so-called punt return unit. Yeah, those guys. I was watching several teams on punt returns, I did not see one that chose not to rush from the middle at least one guy. I will forever remained baffled by that scheme.
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Good point
I kept saying it during the game…if we can stop them at or near the 20…I like our defense’s chances. When we stopped them at something like the 15 yard line…I was ecstatic. Then the penalty…oh the penalty…it hurt for so many reasons…it pushed us back 5 yards which makes a big difference for a freshman kicker who is still struggling with the balance between kicking it high and kicking it far…it made our special teams unit go back and line up again and run right back down the field…and it was just plain deflating…the first of many deflating plays to come.
While the botched FG might have lead to the TD
you can’t play the if X happens then Y doesn’t happen. You can do that on TONS of plays throughout the game. None of know how the next few series would have played out had we made that field goal. I don’t think you can look at it in anyway other than a missed opportunity.
This + a gajillion
A football game is a very complex equation, and people try to reduce it way too much.
We’re just as good at 5-2 as we would be at 7-0 or 3-4. Even if we finish the season with 4 or more losses, this team is more talented than last year’s team, and very fun to watch.
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It's hard to know for sure
But given that the botched FG came with just over 3 minutes left in the half (Reisner’s TD came with 16 seconds left), it’s a pretty safe assumption to make that, if the FG was made, the rest of the half would have gone something like this: Kickoff, Wisconsin drive, possible FG at end or punt pinning Iowa somewhere from the 5 to 20 yard line with under a minute to play. Even assuming best-case scenario (Wisconsin doesn’t score, Iowa gets the ball back), Iowa has a much longer field to go just to get in FG range, which, if it were made, would still have Iowa down one point (2 FGs vs TD and PAT) from where they ended up at the end of the half.
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Re: Punt Coverage
What frustrates me the most about our punt coverage is that I don’t understand what we’re trying to do out there. We’re clearly not attacking the punter. As someone mentioned (Ross, maybe?) we were, at best, in a two-on-four matchup on the fake punt and everyone else had their backs to the kicker.
If the goal is to set up a return I can understand that except that our return game is kind of a disaster too. The NCAA stats show that we’re in the top 30 in return yardage, but that considers the PAKIBOMB as a 42 yard punt return for a TD. When you eliminate that we’re averaging nine yards a return, which would tie us for 49th in D-I.
What’s really amazing is that the last time that Iowa returned a punt for a TD (not counting the PAKIBOMB) was the Brodell return against ISU in 2008.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Oct 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
At that point in the game ...
when you roll out your punt recovery guys, it’s just best to assume some trickeration is afoot. Hell, unless you have the second coming of Devin Hester back there, safety first may be the best choice.
It still makes me sick to my stomach.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 26, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
The thing is that “safety” to our coaching staff is defined as avoiding the roughing the kicker penaly and setting up for the best possible return. The more that I think about it the more that I realize that I’m viewing this all through the best possible lens — the one with perfect hindsight.
Still, we don’t put any pressure on the punter because we don’t want to risk a personal foul but we also don’t return very well either (note: my categorization of our return game as a “disaster” was hyperbole. Mediocre may be more appropriate). In a situation like that it’s confusing how we only really send two guys. They’re deep in their own end. IIRC, the punter was standing around the 20. If Sandeman fair catches the ball we’re taking over probably no worse than our own 20.
One other thing that occurred to me: this punt formation where teams spread the lines out wide and have three protectors like 5-7 yards deep seems to really confuse our coaching staff. Michigan did the same thing and we seemed really confused about how to attack that sort of formation. I don’t know, that’s just an amateur observation, though.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Oct 26, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me, or does anyone else remember past Iowa teams punishing opponents who ran this punt formation? The only specific example I can think of is against Michigan in ‘03(maybe not ’03, whichever year Ochoa caught the game winner), they lined up like that twice, we blocked one and forced a shank on the other kick. By game’s end they went back to a more traditional punt formation.
Granted I could be entirely mistaken, ‘03 was my freshman year at Iowa and I was still hangover-proof (read: shithammered for every game)…. But I remember a time where I saw opponents set up to punt like that and getting excited thinking we had a 50/50 shot at a block… (maybe it’s more a personnel issue than anything, i also recall having guys named greenway and considine on the punt block unit in those days.)
Too many words in this post. A simple “sigh” probably expresses my feelings just as well.
Run punts
Michigan ran the run punt in ‘03 to mixed results…would’ve loved to see a run punt (is that a term?) from Wisky.
It was a very similar formation.
And they used that on their punt as well as their fake.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 27, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
It was a similar formation.
But what differentiates Michigan in aught-three from Wisconsin last Saturday (and for that matter, Michigan the Saturday prior) is what the punter does. In the rugby style the three personal protectors move with the punter, who takes the snap and runs towards the line before uncorking the kick.
The strategy is based less on hang time and distance in the air (traditional punting) and more on kicking a line drive that the opponent is scared to field and letting the ball roll after it hits the turf.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Oct 27, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
For Wisconsin to beat Iowa
Iowa had to shoot itself in the foot while sliding on a banana peel underneath a step ladder and we did just that. If this team can play just normally with normal mistakes we win out easily.
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This wasn't the shitstorm that Arizona was
we made plenty of mistakes…but I would say there were no more mistakes made in this game than many if not most teams get when playing against a top-tier opponent that Wisconsin clearly is. It was more than we’re used to…but it just goes to show that most of Iowa’s big wins and great seasons have been predicated on mostly mistake-free football and have needed to be.
Wisconsin showed the blueprint on how to beat Iowa
Just line up in a special teams play, and run it. It doesn’t matter the down, we will fall for it. They are gonna punt from our 4 yard line on first and goal? Great, we can get the ball ba… oh shit, they faked! This bodes very poor next week when MSU comes to town, seeing as they have already won games on a fake punt AND a fake field goal.
We've given up two punt fakes this year...
and one of them (EIU) was in a situation you would never expect.
While I’ll say, our kickoff coverage has been near-disastrous, I can’t say the same for our punt coverage.
That being said, we should absolutely be ready at all times for MSU’s patented fake FG.
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by WaterlooChazz on Oct 26, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
If I am reading the big ten website correctly,
then we have allowed 15 punt returns all year, for a total of 59 yards. Allowing 4 yards per punt return ain’t that bad.
Meanwhile, we’ve allowed 33 kickoff returns for a total of 767 yards. That’s just over 23 yards per return.
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by WaterlooChazz on Oct 26, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
For the nth time, averages mean squat if you lose a game because of one or two outliers.
No averages! Averages are average (i.e., often meaningless).
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C'mon, Bellanca...
I’m no Michigan troll. I’m not doctoring up quarterback stats to prove something here. I’m just pointing out that our PUNT coverage really isn’t as bad as people want to make it out to be. Surely, even you can agree to that.
And sorry, I’ll stop calling you Shirley.
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by WaterlooChazz on Oct 26, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a serious point, and I'm not personalizing anything here.
It’s the old “you can drown in six inches of water” observation from any statistical analysis class. Averages mean nothing unless the objective function of the activity is to achieve an attractive average. Punt coverage success (including of many factors) is causal to game success; punt coverage average return is not causal, and weakly correlative.
It’s no different than if Stanzi’s high average YPA were accompanied by one pick six per game. One could say, “But he has high average yards per attempt, it’s not that bad.” Only it’s very bad, because the objective function of the game is to not let the other team score, not achieve high YPA while helping the other team score.
If Iowa wins out, that punt coverage fiasco may well cost Iowa a BCS bowl. If Iowa doesn’t win out, it will cost them something else. The voters and bowls are not going to say, “Well, we need to throw out the Wisconsin and Arizona results, because, you know, those special teams meltdowns are accompanied by decent full season performance averages.”
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The issue is not PUNT COVERAGE
this was our PUNT RETURN team. We did not keep them honest. Again, I have not seen a team choose not to rush at least one player up the middle on a punt RETURN.
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by StoopsMyAss on Oct 27, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
It was 4:48 a.m., Stoops, I misspoke, if'n you're talking to me. Of course it was Punt Return.
We turned our backs on a man holding the ball. This is not a championship football thing to do.
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talking in general
it’s funny how all caps really do conjure up a yell.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Actually...
I now realize that I brought punt coverage into the discussion when clearly we were talking earlier about punt returns, as Stoops said. So I AM retarded.
And while I certainly understand your point, Bellanca, that averages can hide bad outliers, I also feel like you can not dismiss averages. Then again, I have never really used stats for anything except sports discussions, so perhaps I would feel different if I ever used stats for something that mattered.
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by WaterlooChazz on Oct 27, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I have six patents in decision science. You could look it up, except I’ll never ever use my real name here.
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Wait. It isn't Bill Anca?
Shit. I just lost a bet.
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Schoolteacher. i win the bet.
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by therealCatnuts on Oct 27, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He also coaches baseball in the summer.
Belay my last.
by steaming_pile_of_awcrap on Oct 29, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I think if there's anything that Kirk does really well
it’s that he recognizes holes in his program and fixes them. See bowl preparation. We get burned pretty bad in a few bowl games (i.e. Orange Bowl 2002), Kirk recognizes it as a problem of preparation, takes steps to fix the problem and effectively does so. Moral of the story, I think Kirk is well aware of special teams flaws and will make sure to fix them over the coming week. The situation this week is much different than last in that Iowa knows to expect some trickery from MSU while they weren’t expecting it from Wisky. Expect special teams to be prepared.
This is in-season, so there are greater challenges
and being down one very important assistant seems to be more problematic than KF is willing to concede.
I am concerned that Dantonio is going to pull out all the stops this weekend, and frankly he should. He is sitting on the threshold of a potentially hostoric season for them. Taking risks only makes sense. Losing to Iowa by 28 or 2 points will make little difference in the grand scheme of things, they can afford to lose this game if their only goal is the Rose Bowl, but they have a real shot at the MNC game here.
I am sure MD expects Iowa to be very focused, fired up and ready and the prospect of Iowa losing back-to-back home games might have seemed ludicrous a few weeks ago, it no longer is hard to fathom. That is what Dantonio is facing, a cornered animal. Expect to see a whole host of things from MSU no one has seen from them thus far. I am sure he doesn’t think his team can just trot on the field and outplay us straight up.
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by StoopsMyAss on Oct 27, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
www.google.com — hostoric — Israel falsely rewrites the Hostoric Identity of the Occupied Palestinian Territory
I agree
I’m sure we won’t get burned on a fake fg or punt…but I expect trickery a la hook and ladder…flea flicker…HB pass…I fully expect some sort of trickery.
Expect formations they have never shown, plays they created this week, blitzes at odd times and in odd ways
I mean real wrath of God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes.The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
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Thanks for the heads up Dr. Venkman.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 27, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Dantonio definitely has that Old Testament Glare.
We, on the other hand, are very New Testament. What does this mean?
Well, I think it means Norm makes a transcendental reappearance, and we play pretty well. By faith alone, I assert this.
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I hate losing
A big part of my week is BHGP and it is just not nearly as much fun when I have to read about the loss. I second all that has been said about A-Rob though. In the Kirk Ferentz dictionary the definition of football player would have a picture of hiim. He just gets the job done.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Oct 26, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
ARob
I couldn’t agree more about all the ARob talk. I just love this kid. I hope he doesn’t get overlooked for all the credit he deserves, in terms of end-of-the year honors and general hype. I hate to say it, but I still even find myself underestimating him, saying things like, “Yeah, it would be nice to get Coker some touches, but ARob’s a better pass blocker and he doesn’t fumble.” And then I slap myself and say, “Shut up, you moron, he’s just a great fucking football player, all the way around.” And you’re right, he’s the picture of a Ferentz football player. Overlooked, hard worker, team-oriented.
by banks, quarterback draw on Oct 26, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
We are 3 games into the Big Ten...
and I have been saying the same thing to myself, about how it might be a good idea to get Coker more touches. How long can A-Rob survive if we run him 25+ times per game in the Big Ten?
On the other hand, his injury last year was an ankle, which is pretty common for skill players. And every time I see him being interviewed, the dude looks like he has added more and more muscle since last year. Maybe he can take it for another few games.
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by WaterlooChazz on Oct 26, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be willing to bet
That Ferentz is hoping that ARob can have one more game taking all the touches (unless we give it to Morse again!) against a “top” opponent before trying to work Coker in versus “lesser” opponents like Indiana and jNW.
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Wisconsin is very, very good.
They deserve all the credit for the win. They beat us the way we’ve beaten many teams over the years: smart, solid play with brutally tough lines. Hats off to them. To come into our place, one week after beating tOSU, and play through that crowd to the final second? Great performance.
That game was a coin toss between two evenly matched teams. Their game against MSU was similar, it came down to a possession. We can stand in and beat MSU next week. We have a reasonable chance against tOSU if we can get some LB’s healthy. We have the makings of a very successful season if we continue to play at this level. The loss is a gut punch, but it’s not a season ender.
FWIW, this reminds me of last year’s MSU / UI game. Last play, game could have gone either way, geeked up stadium, two tough teams. Those things balance out over time: we’re going to lose some, too. Saturday was our day to lose.
Let’s have some “SPARTY, YESSSS!!!!!” moments this Saturday. It’ll go a long ways to erasing this feeling.
I agree with this in principle Indy, but...
…it just feels like Iowa left a few more chances out there than did Wisconsin. Be it the botched snap, the fake punt (which will bother me to the end of time, that’s just inexcusable to give up a fake punt there when Wisconsin’s best chance to win was likely faking and everyone knew it), the non-spike, on it goes. No, it wasn’t a gift the way Arizona was, but, it still feels like Iowa gave away the game to an extent. That’s what stings the most. And I say this taking nothing away from Wisconsin, but, dammit, Iowa HAD that game.
Otherwise put, if you had told me before the game that (1) A-Rob would outrush Clay, (2) Stanzi would again throw no picks, (3) Iowa would win the turnover battle, and (4) Iowa would put up 30, I would have bet just about anything Iowa would win, maybe even fairly comfortably.
Saturday can’t come fast enough. I have to get this taste out of my mouth.
by DonnyDonovan on Oct 26, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Good Recap
Not one mention of the coaching/clock blunders? Ferentz is in some serious denial if he does not realize that his team screwed up at the end of the game.
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
And it doesn't matter even a little bit...
If the ST don’t let an XP get blocked and have the kicker pull a Lucy due to a bad snap.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 26, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we're all missing something in this post
Look at the name credited for the above photo…
Damn them…OMHR strikes again…I should have known…never let your guard down when it comes to OMHR.
"Robinson's unorthodox stride is reminiscent of Brian Calhoun or even Tavian Banks,"
I disagree with this. Banks was always an outside the tackles runner, he didn’t do well inside. He reminds me a lot more of Lew Montgomery.
Are you saying that Robinson and Banks are different types of runners or that they have different strides?
Because it sounds like you’re making a completely different point than the one you quoted.
by The Mexican't on Oct 26, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this linkable of Banks and ARob is ... extremely funny.
ARob: the new Tom Matte.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Another note
Ferentz and his staff never gets too “up” for a win and never too “down” for a loss. We should do the same. (Easier said than done)
Agreed.
Level-headedness is one of the best features about BHGP, especially its head honchos. I can find panic elsewhere, it’s good to have real perspective and rationality (and dick jokes and bad MS Paint and…)
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Oct 26, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I will have none of that
We lost. The season is over! I demand panic and overreaction!
I demand…oh…Hawkeye chips turn your poop green? * wanders off distracted *
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 26, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You new around these parts?
Level-headedness and rationality from the honchos are both post-July 2008. Don’t get too carried away with the hyperbole.
As for A-Rob, praise away.
looking for someone smarter than KOK...
by not so fast, my friend on Oct 26, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
A Rob doesnt run...
he just kinda…floats..or something. Kinda a weird to watch, like his body from the hips up are in slow motion and his lower half is in high gear, like a scooby doo cartoon.
"He was the one that didn't give us a touchdown, ... He didn't officiate for us again." ...Hayden Fry
by chuck longs mom on Oct 26, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions
Arob's running style
Allows him the movement to get around the line of scrimmage effectively with the blocking schemes. But the short steps don’t translate to many big-gainers. He just doesn’t have the breakaway speed at this time. I think I can live with a steady 5 yard gainer with 15-25 yardage sprinkled in there. Very impressed with how he has performed this year.
And I feel a bit better about the end of the game after watching today’s ferentz interview highlights on KCRG newscast. He made reference that better coaching might have made a difference at the end of the game. The fact that they seemed to not know how much time was left on the clock (as he also referenced on newscast) is rather odd. Maybe I just feel better due to some admittance by him of guilt for what led to the wickedest bender I have had in a long time. That was just hard to watch but thank you eagles lodge for the $2 tall boys and one nasty long island.
by blackgoldandcubbieblue on Oct 26, 2010 6:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
a couple contrary comments
1) i’m more forgiving of the punt return unit. We didn’t get fooled at Eastern Ilinois, Nielsen (don’t know which one) could have made it a no gain play but got run over, barely slowing him down. Last Saturday, our interior guys did wait before running down field but as soon as Nortman made a couple punt-like strides, they took off. Good idea, if the defenders don’t buy your fake, you still have time to boot it.
2) from my end zone seats, it looked like Stanzi ignored plenty of chances to throw to an open DJK or McNutt in favor of a safe dump-off to Robinson or Reisner. His accuracy these last two games has left something to be desired, plus some passes are avoided because he prefers to loft it versus firing a bullet.
3) i do agree with the crowd about the pleasant surprise of the OL and Adam R, and the unpleasant surprise of Ferentz’s clock management.
We're gonna need a montage. Ooh, it takes a montage.
by The Mario Pace Experience on Oct 26, 2010 9:23 PM CDT reply actions

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