Wisconsin 31, Iowa 30: The Venting Thread
by RossWB on Oct 23, 2010 6:18 PM CDT
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PrintYeah, that sucked.
There's plenty of time for the post mortem tomorrow. Here's the place for all your hysterical overreactions and FIRE _______ posts. Get it out of your system now.
(Ed. Note: This can also serve as your open thread for discussing the evening games.)
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What hurts is that this offense is very good
and yet we have not found a way to leverage it fully in these big games. Frustrating. Well, I have to calm down and reassess what thi team’s ceiling is from here.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Incomplete Team
We have a Division I contender with fucking Division III special teams……..Sorry about demeaning D III.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory -- Lt. Col Bill Kilgore
FIRE KIRK FERENTZ! FIRE WHOEVER IOWA'S BASKETBALL COACH IS! FIRE STALIN! FIRE OBAMA! FIRE HITLER! FIRE ROSS! FIRE STOOPSMYASS! FIRE BIELEMA! FIRE MEYER! FIRE STANZI!
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
Wouldn't hurt my feelings if the special team's coach was fired.
Or at least stripped of special teams responsibilities
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Oct 23, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
At least one of the special teams coaches
Is the co-interim defensive coordinator.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
Fuck Wisconsin #34
Fuck him streight to hell
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
I wasn't going to post in here.
But I can get behind this.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 23, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
quality post
how Clayborn didnt tear him apart is beyond me
by IrishHawkeye7 on Oct 23, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think anyone saw it, including Clayborn
which is why he wasnt murdered in the middle of that field later in the game. the lucky, lucky bastard.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
They were getting into it a little.
If AC didn’t see it, somebody told him.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 23, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, never saw any of that.
Im a terrable person, so personally i would have been going for that motherfuckers legs all day if i was on that field. he could have ruined Clayborn’s entire career. im this close to finding his name and just shitting all over his facebook but i dont want to waste braincells finding such a talentless fucks name and memorizing it.
im a little pissed
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Clayborn knew it was him
he got in his face on several occasions. the refs either didnt see them going at it or didnt care
by IrishHawkeye7 on Oct 23, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Chop blocked Clayborn.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
fucker
I just hateeeeeeeeeeeeeeee everything about Wisconsin… except for the city of Milwaukee
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
Millen basically admitted that because he was a jerk when he played ball he would have punched the guy in the face.
Justified!
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
This may be the first (and dear God, let it be the only)...
time I agree with Matt Millen.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 23, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't a Chop Block
it was a cut block. Big difference. Chop block involves another player blocking high while another goes low, which is illegal. Ewing only cut his legs… which is perfectly legal and happens ALL THE TIME.
You’re just hosed because some tiny white kid from Richland Center, Wisconsin took out your all-world DE.
Minus the fact that he "cut blocked" him from behind
I think that is the biggest reason anybody would be upset.
Welcome to Ohiowa, the great potato state!
Had it not attacked the back of Clayborn's knee, no one has an issue with the play.
It was dirty and Clayborn’s lucky that his season wasn’t ruined.
by The Mexican't on Oct 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
The league is looking into the play...
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 24, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, thanks for coming over here to bless us with your pearls of wisdom.
I don’t know what us dumb Iowa fans would do without you Badger fans to clear things up for us.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
?
this person signed up for SB nation just to post that……………… TOOL
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
Call it a banana block, it was illegal as fuck
I can’t wait until the horseshoe falls out of Bielema’s ass, hopefully in a BCS game so everybody can see what a fraud team you have.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 24, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm super pissed, but I don't feel gyped. It was a great game.
Poor coaching in the final seconds is nothing new. I still love our team and coaches. Mich St is going to get cactus reamed.
Damnit this team was so promising
And it still is, but we are fast losing our chance to play a suitable opponent in a bowl game.
Kirk has to be willing to take calculated risks
and expect others will do so. This isn’t chess. Two fake punts at home for first downs identical too. Can’t understand it. If they made a play there then I would be fine, but we were no where to be seen. We were outschemed.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 23, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Outschemed?
Ummm, special teams. That’s it. A blocked XP and a terrible fucking snap and/or hold on a chip shot FG, in addition to some more shoddy kick coverage. That was the difference.
Did you notice the fake punt that Iowa was ill-prepared for?
That’s what he’s talking about, if I read that right.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
People need to forget about the missed FG, because we used that field position to get the TD. That is an irrelevant play.
the missed XP was huge. We all know it would be. knowing it was there, KF needed to be more aggressive on the drive that we ended up with a FG.
Dantonio is fkaing his way to the Big Ten lead. And BB is faking his way to second place. And Sweater vest and KF are looking old suddenly. It is perception but it’s there.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Year of the Douchebagt, apparently.
I don’t think that success that derives from that approach is sustainable, long-term.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think KF has really become more conservative in the past two years
last year his field position approach worked beautifully, but our special teams were better. this year, they’re not very good. He needs to come to grips with that and “feel” his way around those deficiencies. In other words, he needs to find a way to offset that bad play.
But, we’ve lost two heartbreakers. By no means are we a team that should be outside the Top 20 but we will be. We need to take a more calculated agressive approach next week, because you know Dantonio is going to.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I pretty much agree.
He’s playing like we have a lockdown defense and great special teams; that simply isn’t true, especially with injuries beating up our LB corps. We have incredibly inconsistent special teams and a defense that struggles at times to make big stops against talented offenses.
On the other hand, the offensive line has been a very pleasant surprise this year, especially pass blocking. A-Rob has taken another step forward, Stanzi is playing much better, and we have great wideouts and tight ends. For the first time since 2002 (or 2005, probably) the strength of this team is probably the offense — we need to play to that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Agree about the offense being the strength
and I think that goes back to Stoops’ assertion elsewhere that Ferentz needs to develop the mentality of stepping on on opponent’s neck when they’re down. He still plays like this is last year’s team where the defense was the rock and we could, and needed to, eek out a few narrow wins.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I am getting the sinking feeling...
that Stanzi may be our best QB since Long or maybe even Duncan, and we are going to have no Big Ten titles to show for it.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 24, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Matt Rogers won a BT Title.
QB isn’t everything.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Why not?
If you see something that makes you think the opponent is vulnerable to a particular trick play (MSU had seen that the guy they burned on the fake punt consistently peeled off early on NW’s “punt safe” package), what’s wrong with exploiting that? And if the opponent is ready for the fake, they won’t be as effective when you run the “normal” plays.
Fucking Bush League
Many years ago I coached 3rd and 4th graders in youth football. Every kid on the team even the one who stood around picking his nose knew that you leave at least one person from the return team to make sure the fucking punter actually punts the fucking ball…..What the fuck!
I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory -- Lt. Col Bill Kilgore
fuck me
In the ass with a big rubber dick
Yee-Haw! I ride again!
by Cornshoe Hammaker on Oct 23, 2010 6:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
cause that would hurt less
Yee-Haw! I ride again!
by Cornshoe Hammaker on Oct 23, 2010 6:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
or just hit me on the fucking head over and over with a fucking sledge hammer.
It’s times like this that I wish I wasn’t a Haweye fan. Life would be a lot easier if I had another hobby like fucking kniting or sewing. Anything but Hawkeye football!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
well i can understand fucking...
but knitting or sewing?
JoePa – coaching PSU 140 Characters at a time
No thanks.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 23, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I can live with the Hawks losing when they get outplayed.
When they get outcoached, make mistakes, and are clearly the better team, etc… well then I start to have problems… And start drinking.
by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Oct 23, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
You must have watched a different game than I did.
I saw two mostly evenly matched teams, except on ST, where Wisconsin had the advantage.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 23, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
True
Special teams mistakes were a huge issue. Huge.
This huge.
by Ginormous Douchebag on Oct 23, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
On the bright side
Maybe we get to play Florida in a bowl. ive wanted revenge for a long damn time.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
Florida probably won't make a bowl game.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
damn
it just gets worse and worse
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Screw that
I want revenge too but lowering the boom on a floundering team brings me no joy. More importantly it brings no accolades to our Hawks. Big wins against big teams is the formula for recognition. Whoops, we haven’t done that this year.
Soooo, who do we tar and feather?
My vote goes to O’Keefe. You got the first down, spike the goddamn fucking football. How hard is that to call???? Instead Stanzi gets into a fucking shotgun and you have to burn the last timeout. What the fucking fuck?
Also, special teams and LB is weak.
Ken O'Keefe isn't the head coach.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I get it.
Kirk really does do nothing but stand around and chew gum.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh Yeh
At least he can stand and chew gum at the same time unlike your beloved Joe Pa.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory -- Lt. Col Bill Kilgore
KOK had a great game. Are you nuts.
Kirk called timeout in the first half to call a run to run down the clock before the TD. He is very defensive in his play calling. KOK had a red zone masterpiece today.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Are you calling Cruz a dipshit,
or talking to our very own Dipshit? Just curious.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 23, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
timeouts, spikes etc
Are the OC’s game time responsibility…
by GMcNhawkeye on Oct 23, 2010 9:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Brock
I was halfway joking about OKeefe, but if you think the time management at the end of the game was acceptable and that not spiking the ball after the first down was the way to go, then you don’t know fucking dick about football.
Piss off.
Oh and if it spiking it is KF's call
then why was Stanzi motioning to spike, then got into the shotgun formation before a TO was called? He sure as hell wasn’t looking at KF.
Because O"keefe dialed up another play instead of spiking it dipshit.
Jesus....
the point is a fucking five year old knows to spike the ball in that circumstance. I’m surprised Stanzi didn’t just do it.
Just to get this straight
KOK is NOT allowed to call a spike in that instance?
Ferentz does not call the plays.
I would rather my OC
is preparing a play, just in case. Generally, the HC is in charge of time-management issues. But again, believe what you want, it’s of little consequence to me.
Way to keep it civil, Cruz.
I couldn’t watch the game, but I listened to it on the radio. From what I heard from Dolphin and Podolak, KOK was telling Stanzi to spike it, but Stanzi lined up in the shotgun, thinking the call would be another pass.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
That's supposedly not what KF said in the postgame presser...
…I thought he said that the TO was his decision.
The TO had to be called because Stanzi didn't line up under center to snap the ball.
The coaches may have burned the TO, but the responsibility falls squarely on Stanzi’s shoulders. As a senior, he absolutely HAS to know to spike the ball after the sneak and cannot make that shovel pass to end the game. He lost his head at the end.
by The Mexican't on Oct 23, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agreed.
As cliche and trite it is to blame the quarterback for the losing drive, in this case, it’s more or less true. No matter what KOK or KF should have told Stanzi leading into the final drive, he probably should have known that the appropriate thing to do at that point was spike the ball, stop the clock, and preserve a timeout.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
by hkobb7 on Oct 23, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
My problem from the beginning was that cruz seemed to be pinning everything on KOK. And while I don’t have a problem criticizing him (there are plenty of times he’s deserved it), I can’t stand it when people seem to use it as the go-to after every loss.
Especially when this is one of the best KOK games in recent memory
I couldn’t help but think at the beginning of every drive, “Oh, he’s going to go back to evil KOK now” but he really didn’t. Maybe he was saving up all season for this game, trying to hide some schemes. Probably not, but maybe. Nah.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
It looked like it was taking the refs forever to spot the ball.
And by the time they did, the timeout call came in.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think the ball did get lost in the shuffle of the OL trying to get into position.
But Ricky was standing in the shotgun and looking to the sidelines. There’s no reason to do that. Wait for the ref to blow the whistle, take the snap and throw the ball into the dirt.
That said, he still had an opportunity to save face for the staff and himself by simply throwing the ball away at the end. Absolutely zero reason to shovel the ball to Robinson 3 yards from the LOS. 6 seconds melted off the clock after Robinson was tackled. That ball gets thrown away and they may have a shot downfield or can, at least, let Meyer kick from deep.
by The Mexican't on Oct 23, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, I'm not sure what Stanzi can do if the coaches are yelling from the sideline.
He absolutely lost his head on that final play, though. That and taking that horrible sack are all on him.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah.
I can understand the frustration about the TO, but that mistake didn’t end the game. It was incredibly boneheaded and will take a huge beating in every review of the game, but there was still a chance, albeit slimmer, after that mistake.
by The Mexican't on Oct 23, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree about the sack.
I thought he was pretty close to being able to get rid of the ball.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
JJ Watt made all of one play all day
and that was that sack. And Stanzi was was thisclose to getting away from the pressure on it. A shoelace tackle, but incredibly inopportune timing
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Yeah but stanzi
had no pressure until he prematurely left the pocket and ran into Watt. Stanzi was feeling pressure that wasn’t there on that particular play. If I remember correctly, that is.
He also blocked the extra point.
So two very big plays there for Mr. Watt.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He was, sure.
But he also held onto the ball for what seemed like forever on that play. Live to fight another day — 10 yards was more important there. In a strange way, though, the offensive line’s excellence on the day bit us on that play — Stanzi likely thought he could wait and wait and try to make a play because the OL had been so dominant that he HAD been able to do that all day.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
good point
Yes – that’s a good point
by GMcNhawkeye on Oct 23, 2010 9:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
spot delay doesn't matter
Clock wasn’t running
by Michael S Sandmire on Oct 24, 2010 5:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Not my point.
The delay seemed to lead to more confusion between the players and the coaches. If the ball is set immediately, it seems more likely that Stanzi just spikes it since that is definitely what it looked like he – and the rest of the team – were preparing to do.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Cluster Fuck
The last minute of the this game brought back memories I haven’t had since Bob Cummings left Iowa City in shame………
I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory -- Lt. Col Bill Kilgore
And the players left four points off the board
Not blaming anyone, but if KOK’s game plan is executed in the manner we have come to expect from this team, he simply won this game for us.
Still wish he could have worked out a way to get us more than 3 points off that INT. That was the point I knew this would come down to the last minute.
Still wish he could have worked out a way to get us more than 3 points off that INT. That was the point I knew this would come down to the last minute.
that is vintage ferentz…he asumed the defense would win it and that FG forces them to go distance. no killer instinct, defensive instinct.
Ferentz waits for teams to kill themselves. sometimes, it doesn’t work that way.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 23, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As far as I’m concerned, Iowa has two out of three needed components but that missing one is really, really missing.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
but you must admit that
special teams aside, they could have easily won this game with better management. punt safe and spike call gives you a much better chance
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I'm not denying that.
Kirk and company totally blew it.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Like stoops said...
Kirk tries to let the D win it. That’s never going to happen late in the game with Prater and Hyde at the corners.
by iowabeakster on Oct 23, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
We got beat in the trenches though...
Hyde was only exposed once and Prater is an All-Big Ten CB.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I'll take your word for it...I'm can't watch games... only listen on Radio...
So, I don’t see a lot of what’s happening. It sure sounds like everyone can pass on us… easily.
by iowabeakster on Oct 23, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It seemed like there was a lot of passing on Wisconsin's first couple drives
After that, Clay and Ball just raped Iowa’s defensive line and linebackers to death running it up the middle, or, quite frankly, wherever the hell they wanted to run it.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
they didn't even break 200 yards in passing though.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
What Stoops said.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Hyde makes enough good plays to avoid deserving requests for his head
At least that’s my opinion. He had several great seals on outside runs today. He also had that great stuff on the kickoff that was negated by the offsides call (which ESPN says was on Mossbrucker…). Honestly, he sort of reminds me of Prater last year. And I think Prater is much better this year. Sure, if we had Spievey instead of Hyde we might be undeafeated right now. But you can’t get too mad at a guy for not being a shut down corner.
Stoops is right
Their O line had their way with our D Line…
I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory -- Lt. Col Bill Kilgore
I thought the key play on that series was second down.
Stanzi almost immediately checked down to A-Rob, who got tackled and put us in third and long. Did he even look to see if anyone was open downfield? I don’t mind running on first down (although I would have preferred a PA pass), since we ran well on the previous series. But that second down decision by Stanzi felt a little odd.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
yeah...he has been so focused on not throwing INTs
but, I have to say that this was a game that had to be taken. Wisconsin was playing like a team who would take no prisoners.
That QB sneak no spike sequence will haunt me. And make me wonder about Kirk for a while. Nothing major, but Iowa doesn’t have this kind of talent often. Gotta have a attitude on these games that you are going to win, rather than hope they lose.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 23, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too much faith in the defense.
Too reminiscent of Illinois in 2008.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This x100
The one thing I was 100% impressed with today was Ken O’Keefe’s playcalling. The variety of the calls was incredible. Ken, please don’t change.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
Yeah, what a dumb ass.
Put 30 on the other team, who can expect to win like that?
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 23, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Get rid of someone...anyone.
At lease KF can tell us he understands we have a serious problem and things are going to change!
by Black&Gold Blood on Oct 23, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Fire Bielema.
We would have never lost if Bielema was fired at the beginning of the game.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
We still control our own destiny for the Rose Bowl...
Still, this defense is not dominant. Two decidedly unfluky last minute game winning 70plus yard drives in our two losses… Without a dominant D, you can’t over come special teams disasters…
Big up to the Offense today, especially the O line and Stanzi for not turning the ball over…
True, but I'm blaming the special teams.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, Special teams is the real culprit
I’m just saying our Defense is NOT the terror monster dominant unit that they are made out to be…. Just good.
True true
I hate to say it, but I’m afraid our DL is overrated. They made very few “splash” plays today. Yes, Wisky’s OL is very, very good, but you have to expect more than what we got out of them.
I think the real problem, especially today, has been consistency
the Dline would make a pretty good play, or even two in a row, then immediately give it up on the next one.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Not ready to call our Dline overated
I think it is more of missing Edds and Angerer. We have good LB but there is a drop off from last year and I think we are seeing it.
by MSPHawkeye on Oct 23, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We still control our own destiny for the Rose Bowl…
Technically wrong. If MSU only loses to Iowa, and Iowa wins out, there’s a three way tie between 7-1 MSU, Iowa and Wisconsin. Iowa gets knocked out of tiebreaking because of their worse overall W-L, then MSU takes head to head over the Badgers.
You need us and UW to lose at least twice.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
No
we need Wisky to lose twice. If we beat you guys and win out, overall record doesn’t matter, head-to-head does.
correct
head-to-head is #1, BCS standing is #2.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
We need Wiscy to lose once more. They lost once to MSU. We have only one conference loss as well...
of course we need to win out, which after today, I’d give us a 15% chance of doing.
Special teams has been a HUGE let down this year, to put it lightly.
Both of our losses have had direct tie backs to points that were left off the field or given up due to miscues on special teams.
That said, questionable coaching calls also hurt.
All in all, it’s one thing to lose by 7-14 points. It’s a whole different monster to blow leads to lose close games.
Same with the LBers
Don’t think I fully appreciated just how good Angerer and Edds were in pass coverage. Arizona, Michigan, and now Wisconsin have all passed all over these linebackers.
Nielson reminds me of Humpal, just brutal in pass coverage.
by burglinturds on Oct 23, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
the early reports of Nielsen being the next Edds seem to have been a bit premature. Let’s not forget, however, that we played most of the second half without our top tackler and three-year starter as a LB Hunter
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Iowa is 0-2 this season against good teams.
It’s time to start figuring out how a senior-laden, hyped team could be so average when it comes to actually playing the game.
Not Average...
Last year we won the close games… the breaks went our way… this year they have broke a different way…
These really aren't "breaks", so to speak.
Today’s game was close, but it was mental errors and lack of execution that made Iowa lose, not luck.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
i don't even want to vent.
I want to break stuff.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Not worth it.
Think of all the people that are less fortunate than we Iowa fans today. Its just a game.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
It’s not like we’re settling a war with this game. It’s not like lives are on the line with this game. I’m just glad to bleed black and gold and support our Hawkeyes in times of feast and famine.
Hawkeye sports are a great way to spend a little bit of time and escape from reality and enjoy a fantastic (sometimes not so much) show of athleticism and maybe we have gotten spoiled from all the great seasons we have had recently, and I think we need to remember that the college athletics landscape is similar to the sand dunes in the desert, always moving, always changing.
I am still happy that I am a Hawkeye! The sun will set tonight, and rise tomorrow and the next game will come and we will continue. The coaching staff will learn from this and they will deal. Who knows, maybe this is the needle that pricks the conservative nature of the staff and provokes just a little bit more risk taking.
Who knows?
All I know is that I’m still happy to be a Hawk!
GO IOWA AWESOME!
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Oct 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
We were settling a war.
The Cold War. The Commies won. I say fuck ‘em, let’s go nuclear. Call up the National Guard, Governor Culver!
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
This man righ here...
I like your moxy son. +1 for having a set!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Is it your stuff? If yes, then don't do it.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the reasoning Rambler...
Always there in a time of need.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Shit happens.
So, I’m guessing we drop < 20 in the rankings.
You can’t pin this loss on Stanzi, he had a great game.
The other mistakes would have been overcome-able IF we had a healthy linebacking corps. So much of our scheme relies on healthy linebackers and we are woefully thin there at the moment.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
Nope.
I think we’ll finish 7-5. We can beat two more teams and sneak into a minor bowl, but I don’t see us beating MSU, tOSU and we’ll take a loss on the road to either jNWU or Indiana. We can’t play defense against passing teams – just like Michigan.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
thats overreacting
despite our mistakes we played them hard and damn near won the game. i honestly dont see iowa losing more than two more games, and probubly only one more game. hell there is a chance we could run the table.
we lost because of coaching, and i dont see coaching making these mistakes again this year.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
What makes you think...
…that a coaching staff this old has the ability to fix such mistakes? If you haven’t figured such basic stuff out yet, you’re never going to do it.
Because i have faith in my 12 year coaching staff
what makes you think that they would just ignore the painfully obvious mistakes and decide "nah, were good as we are, no need to improve.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, your horse is dead. Get a new one.
You’ve left this same comment 50 times. Get over yourself. Also, we beat Michigan so your bile needs to go back into your stomach.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Oct 24, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the "shit happens" thing is actually correct.
It was one fucking hell of a game. We ended up on the W side of it. That’s it. I hope the team wants to embarrass Mich St next week. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what we see.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 23, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The one thing i didnt like was our punt return team
When did we stop trying to block the fucking punts? if we had tried to block the punt we would have had a better chance of stopping that 4th down shit. thats what lost us the fucking game, that one play.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
We probably didn't want to get a roughing the punter call
but still. We were playing for the return when completely unneeded.
It wasnt just that one play though
the only reason that play was set up was because all game we put three guys up and sent everyone back. not even a LB to watch the guy. we set ourselves up for that play the whole game.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree about our current punt block/coverage
How easy is it to scheme against that punt coverage? I mean holy goddamn shit that wasn’t very tricky. the guy picked up 20 yards at least before he even saw anyone coming at him. You can’t make shit that easy. How do you watch film on Iowa and not come up with that fake punt? Goddammit to hell. How did our coaches not see that coming? Here, lets send two guys on the outside and everyone else turn and run before he punts the fucking ball. We will go ahead and leave a grand canyon of open field for the punter to have a cup of fucking coffee and chase after our coverage team down the field with the ball. I’m beside myself right now. Seriously. I hate football. I am never watching another game. I hope everybody single team loses every single game the rest of the year. Fuck this.
by encopresis on Oct 23, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Jebus can no longer speak about this
But he says, “For every comment you leave tonight, you need to come back tomorrow and read the thread to pay for your sins.”
"Don't talk about me like I'm not here!" Shelby
Cyclone fans are having a field day right now
Calling it their best weekend ever. Fuck.
What was the final score of this year's Cy-Hawk or whatever game?
I can’t recall.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
They beat the worse texas team they have ever faced
so they are the last team i want to hear about
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
35-7
But unfortunately, they beat Texas today and we lost a totally winnable game.
So they’re having great fun, as they revel in Iowa’s failures.
Yes, I know but at least there won't be trolls here.
They’re not that pathetic. Are they?
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I have gotten 2 texts from my ISU fan buddy
And before the game was over he said “now all that has to happen is if Iowa loses, and this will be the best day ever”
Hawkeye Envy is a common disease of ’lil brother fans
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Oct 23, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Why are you even talking to ISU fans?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If this is their best weekend ever it ain't saying much.
Texas is a schizoid team, so is ISU this year.
What pisses me off more than just losing to Wisconsin is losing in Kinnick. This win will put Bucky solidly in the top 10, and then you bet your ass they’ll get raped in the BCS bowl they go to and embarrass the entire conference.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt Wisconsin wins out the rest of the way.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
And if they do, we allowed it...
…thus earning a share of the blame for any shame that might be brought to the conference if The Bird Cult’s theory plays out.
Who do they have left to play?
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
A bunch of crap.
IU, NW, at UM, and I think Illinois.
I bet they give RichRod his 6th win.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand why we didn't just pass pass pass on Wisconsin
Because the only thing that was stopping the passing game was us.
Illinois could could give them trouble. Another schizoid team…
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I had absolutely no problem with Iowa's offensive game plan.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad this seems to be the prevailing opinion
the offense was awesome today. The OL played their best game of the season (considering the competition), Stanzi, despite missing a few easy passes played very well, ARob ran hard. Putting up 34 points (yes, I realize it was only 30) does not point to offense as the problem.
Field goal and the extra point
Made all the difference. That, and letting Clay, Ball, and co. run all over Iowa, and the LBs not really being able to handle much pass coverage. The offense played a good game, final drive aside. Stanzi completed something like 25 passes and Robinson ran for well over 100 yards. Most other days, we would be ecstatic over those numbers against a top 15 team. Of course, most other days, special teams and defense show up to play a top 15 team.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
Let Stanzi do the place kicking
I bet he could at least get the ball over the center’s ass…..
I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like victory -- Lt. Col Bill Kilgore
Their defense isn't that impressive at all.
Michigan could definitely give them some issues. Granted, Michigan’s ability to stop anyone is a problem…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Not Illinois
They dodge both Wisconsin and Iowa. It’s either Purdue or PSU, and I think it’s Purdue.
Fuck Purdue.
Congrads on the comeback today.
by The Final Gun on Oct 24, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
I’d like to have one of these not take years off my life, but somehow I get the feeling next week will be another nail-biter.
Wisconsin has a long history of fail in the Big House, including a 3-9 Michigan team in 08
So yeah, I agree. And as far as NW goes, it totally depends which jNW team shows up. Also, Indiana may get Wisconsin in a shootout. Ben Chappel is a very good QB, and may very well shred the Wisconsin secondary just as well as Stanzi and Cousins did.
Right now, anyone with 2 Big Ten losses or less is a far, far cry from out of it. We’re almost halfway through the B10 schedule, and the only teams that control their own destiny for a share of the title are MSU, Iowa, and…get this…Purdue.
MSU must still play Iowa at Iowa, and go to Penn State, a place where MSU has not only never won, but really only been within striking distance twice (2006, 1996).
Right now, if I’m any of the teams with 2 losses or less in the Big Ten (MSU, OSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois), I have the mindset of “we win out, we’re probably getting at least a share.”
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
We no longer truly "control" our fate
In that if we win out, we get the automatic BCS-bowl (read: Rose) bid. Only MSU truly controls their fate, they win out, it’s theirs. Even if they drop one, as long as it’s not to Iowa, then they’re still in good position. Iowa, OSU and Wisconsin are all in a group of teams that, if they win out, will probably share the title, but will not get the Rose Bowl without someone else’s help.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Right
Only MSU controls their own BCS destiny, but Iowa and Purdue also control their own destiny as far as a share of the league title.
But frankly, everyone except Indiana, Northwestern, and Minnesota are still very much in the mix, even if they’re not “in control” mathematically speaking.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
Holy Shit
I thought I was the only one with an asshole of a friend like that.
He told me the same thing.
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Oct 23, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Good call.
I was coherent enough that the Mrs. understood I wanted Big Macs.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya like that special sauce, do ya?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Oct 23, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't get fries or anything else with them.
Figure it evens out like that.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 23, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Got off work to watch second half
But back at work now, so can’t even fucking drink this one away. Special teams…
by Settles'7thYearOfEligibility on Oct 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
I've been cooking a badass chili all day. Now I'm going to eat it.
I’m disappointed. I’m pissed off. Its not like all of a sudden we suck. We were a qunt hair off. 10 wins is still in our future. You think Stanzi or Clayborn are going to give up? I don’t.
STOP LOOKING AT THINGS WITH BLACK AND GOLD GLASSES
THIS TEAM SUCKS. 6-6, PIZZA PIZZA BOWL HERE WE COME.
THE COACHES ARE OLD AND SUCK. IF THEY JUST PLAYED MADDEN, WE’D WIN GODDAMMIT. FUCKING COACHES.
IF YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY, YOU’RE AN IDIOT.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm getting my tickets to Detroit now.
I hope I have enough left over to buy a copy of Madden for Ferentz.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I bet he wouldn't know how to put it in the machine.
Or call timeout.
He'd probably put it in upside down
And get it all scratched by the motor-thingy and the laser light-thingy. What’s that circle called again? A cyst? Oh, a disk? My bad. This darn technology.
Oh, and I’ve never been to Detroit. Or Pasadena. But I’ve heard Detroit is lovely in late December.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
I assume since you put a lot of hours putting together great Iowa content you are being sarcastic.
This loss hurts, but less than the Arizona loss. No reason for any Iowa fan to jump off the deep end.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 23, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Sarcasm? Never heard of it.
I’m burning all my Iowa gear and heading over to Bucky’s Fifth Quarter to see if they need an editor.
Bielema’s the future, man. See all you losers later.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Oct 23, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is an upside to all of this
If we do go into the tank, we might as well start playing all of our inexperienced players to get ready for next year… but I don’t think we’re going in the tank,yet. If MSU beats the piss out of us I’d say so, but they had a tough game today too even though they won.
The Big 10 championship race is STILL going to be determined in Iowa City, its just that bucking walking out with a win, its a lot easier for them.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
Agree, sort of.
I’m a all or bust kind of guy and am absolutely still pissed. However I’d like us to smash MSU in the mouth and fOSU in the twins, but as for the other games I’d like to see our next year’s starters get some snaps at full speed. I could care less since our chances for the BIG10 title are next to nil. And even if we did share the title we aren’t going to the Rose Bowl. So fuck it, let’s start preparing for next season. At the begining of the season I saw a 11-1 or 10-2 team, now I give a fuck if we are 7-5…
On a side note: This is why I get so frustrated with Iowa. This is the best team, talent wise, that I can ever remember and we find ways to fuck it up whereas teams like fucking OSU usually don’t. Watching the game yesterday I just did not see any hunger on the defense, or the rest of the team for that matter. That is our house and I didn’t see any, I’m going to rip your fucking throat out for bringing that shit to our house!!! And I had a horrible feeling when we missed that PAT; just new that was going to come back and bite us… FUCK!!!!
Agree on the above
One more loss, and the meaningful part of the season is pretty much over…if you’re not in a BCS bowl, the rest are pretty much the same. At that point, the goal has to be to get kids meaningful reps (inculding Van) in early-game situations.
What I hate is that this game was TOTALLY winnable
It was in our hands, we had a chance to win this by 14 points…but we just couldn’t pull it together.
And we STILL have three big games left against MSU, jNW and tOSU. Hopefully it gets our team up and ready to go and not to go in the opposite direction…
This is the reason I'm worried about a 2008 repeat
Arguing that Iowa is way better than they get credit for using close games as evidence is so demoralizing. Iowa is starting to prove they have a ceiling at about 9 wins. Sure, they may do better from time to time but they will also do worse, even when they have NFL talent at 3 positions on the D-line, 2 positions in the WR core and a senior QB with experience out the ass.
And that makes us different somehow?
Not that many college programs consistently win 10 games a year before the bowl game.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
It makes us no different
That’s my problem! I don’t honestly expect to be any better than a 9 win team year in and year out. It’s just that I hope I live another 40 years and if Kirk isn’t the guy to take us on a mNC run then I’m worried about my future suffering?
Hell, I’m happy caring this much about a loss. Don’t get me wrong, all hail the Captain. I just wanted a different season soooo badly.
Agreed
I’ve never felt so confident about a national title shot as I did coming into this season. And we have the offense and, I still feel, thought it’s not as good as originally thought, the defense for it. But not the special teams.
And it kills me that the chance has been squandered. And squandered’s the word here, for both losses.
by Settles'7thYearOfEligibility on Oct 23, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I honestly think KF thought the defense would stop that last drive by going for the FG
Wisconsin had all the breaks go their way the last drive… but our past history has been that our defense has been able to stop the other teams at the end of the game. Oh well. I also think we should’ve gone for the TD in that situation.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
Iowa stopped them.
That’s what annoys me about this lousy game.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Special teams needs some serious work
Hopefully this time KF fixes it, because its apparent he didnt fix it last time.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Well we've proven since last MSU's game that we totally don't look for trick plays
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
How did the MSU game prove that?
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Oct 23, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Flea flicker anyone?
Anyone?
/crickets chirp
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Oct 23, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't remember the flea flicker
Just the hook and ladder.
And there is really no practical way to defend (or look for) the hook and ladder.
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Oct 23, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes there is.
Iowa’s hook and ladder attempt at Arizona for the loss. Literally.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
Let me rephrase
There is no practical way to practice or predict prior to the play a hook and ladder.
Either your safety is in position to make the tackle after the pitch, or he isn’t.
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Oct 23, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I was being facetious.
There’s a certain amount of luck involved in that play whenever it’s called.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
We should ALWAYS go for the TD when we have the opportunity
I hate the whole “let’s just play for the defensive stop!”
And the first time that KF does that, it fails, and a FG would've won the game
we will blame him for not taking the for sure points.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that we should have gone for it on 4th or anything
But that we came out after the interception with conservative play calls.
Michigan State, TIME TO DIE MOTHERFUCKERS!
by Anthony Dierickx on Oct 23, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't have any good thoughts on what went wrong
But this just feels like a punch to the gut. The ups (great running, the clutch pick) just set you up for the crushing downs.
OMG chile contest at work on Monday and I think I just won!
I’m going to watch some shitty 80’s Arnold movie, eat some chili and shit this loss out tomorrow. We’re going to beat a no loss team next week and knock them out of winning the Big 10. HNNNGGG!
I'm thinking Patton on Blu-Ray.
Amazing what they did to a 40 year old movie.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 23, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck...
With tomorrow’s deuce! But keep in mind we have to beat MSU AND OSU to knock MSU out of the Big 10 title. If they are tied with OSU and Wisky with 1 loss, I believe MSU gets the nod.
FUCKING IDIOTS
FUCKING BLOWN 3rd and 1 inside the 10. No points on an eventual 3rd 11 botched FG.
Fucking offside kickoff instead of 15yd line, 5o yard line
Fucking 4th Down fake punt. What the fuck!
Fucking timeout when we have 10sec to throw anywhere on the field and win the danm game.
Iowa was the better but dumber team.
Fuck Wisconsin.
by Squawkeye on Oct 23, 2010 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
We will be a 7 point dog against MSU on our own field.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
Just means more money for me.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
nope
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
10 point then.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
No way.
Sparty escaped Evanston with a win that looked greater than it was. Iowa may be a home dog, but it won’t be more than 3.5 points.
by The Mexican't on Oct 23, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That is the part of the loss I'm hating most
Ugh, having to read her triumphalism for the next few weeks will make me sick
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Or just don't read it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I hate to do this but, penalties?
We were fucked on some of them. I do hate to blame a game on refs, but some of those calls (or absence of) were pretty iffy.
by Anthony Dierickx on Oct 23, 2010 6:53 PM CDT reply actions
Such as?
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with Rambler
there aren’t any calls that stick out to me as being egregious (or even bad, really). There was a missed block in the back here or there, but IIRC, neither really ended up hurting us.
We simply got beat by the better team
And Wisconsin was better than us today.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Better on the field, i dont know
but better coached? absolutly
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
no, we were evenly matched
but we wre outcoached. It happens. We’ve been doing it to teams for the last two years, but I think our approach has been figured out. Teams are taking selective risk and it is working. With Arizona they did it on defense and Wisky did it with special teams. Credit to them…both.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I agree with you
It may be time for us to mix it up a bit. You can’t keep with the same approach and expect it to keep working…
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
We were not out coached...
for the first 59 minutes, 48 seconds… The last 12 seconds? That is another story… Coach knows he fucked up…
Hawks....yup, I like 'em
Are you kidding? It came down to special teams, period...
I wouldn’t say Wiscy is a better team or better coached…we were very evenly matched. There are 3 phases to football and they kicked our ass in the kicking game.
by Black&Gold Blood on Oct 23, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
we got outcoached
on the punt fake. That is easy to prevent.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I swear I saw Clayborn get tackled by his facemask on that 1 yd TD run.
And there was the obvious KNEE DESTROYER!!! chop block by #34 (who should be reamed by BB if he has any soul left). But I tend to give the refs one or two missed calls a game. It’s not like JJ Watt ripped off A-Rob’s helmet and bit his neck (vampire!) in front of a ref who happened to be “looking the other way.”
1 game suspension
I really think that that type of play is no better than a shot to the head and the Big Ten should suspend that player for 1 game. A chop to the back of the knee is about the most chicken shit type of play in football
I'm sure I've already read worse today.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
he will write about risk and reward
bank on it…
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
No, that will be Keeler
Keeler will load up his column from the OSU game last year, change some words around, and hit send.
It will be interesting to see how the coaching staff spins the loss
We had the sucker won, all we had to do was keep Wisconsin out of the end zone.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
I think having Norm not coaching has definitely had an effect as the year has gone on.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
Ferentz is going to look of into the distance and there will be an uncomfortable pause. Then maybe a whistle.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 23, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
How so?
Would you say the defensive schemes have been different? Or just the lack of his motivational skills and the overall steadiness of a guy who’s been coaching forever? Honest question, just want thoughts. How do you best quantify how much he means to the team/defense?
by Settles'7thYearOfEligibility on Oct 23, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Our halftime adjustments haven't been very good on defense
Towards the end of the first half today, it looked like Iowa’s defensive, and especially the line, was starting to take over. Then Wisconsin came out and made some changes at half and we didn’t seem to do likewise
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I can get behind that
I definitely thought our DL was starting to do work and we wouldn’t give up many points in the 2nd half. Then for some reason, we couldn’t stop them.
True enough.
Not having two of our top three linebackers out there also hurt. Johnson is solid, but mistake-prone at times. I think Morris will be very good, but he’s also a true frosh.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Oct 23, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Definitely.
This DL hasn’t been the unstoppable terrormonster that we thought it would be, but it has done enough to allow the LBs to make plays. Problem is, the LBs aren’t always there. This defense really misses Angerer.
by The Mexican't on Oct 23, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Our defensive line is still good, but they're not four Suhs out there.
If you double-team them, chip them (or just blatantly chop block them), you can slow them down. That puts a lot of pressure on the linebackers and secondary and they can’t make up the difference this year. We might need to actually think about blitzing linebackers more than once a millennium.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This is starting to sound better and better.
The LBs appear to be rather weak in pass coverage (not always, but today they looked sort of average), so I don’t know that a ton would be sacrificed if one or two was sent on occasion.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
I think we blitzed a few times -- Tarp? -- against Arizona.
It was one of the only ways we could effectively get pressure in that game.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Have we blitzed
since the Miami (Oh) game in 2002?
Also, Dude, Chinamen is not the prefered nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
by Settles'7thYearOfEligibility on Oct 23, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
We haven't blitzed since Jess Settles was in school.
/easy’d
But, in reality, yes, we have blitzed since then. It’s a myth that we “never” blitz — we just very rarely blitz.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I figured there have been a few called over the years
Probably seven.
I just thought putting that Miami (Oh) game and 2002 over all in my (and anybody else’s) head for a moment would ease the pain a little.
The defense truly has been disappointing in spots this year. I just kept waiting for that big play, a sack, a pick, anything on that last drive…
Also, Dude, Chinamen is not the prefered nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
by Settles'7thYearOfEligibility on Oct 23, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Thing is
In the absence of Parker, blitzes seem to be dialed up a little more often…like maybe five times per game. It seems like coverage suffers somewhat, but not a ton, and I think that’s why Norm doesn’t call them much.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
I agree the injuries hurt
but I also think our DL has been getting beaten far more than the best DL in the nation should be. Which is why I’m starting to rethink that moniker. Don’t get me wrong, they’ve dominated the bad teams as they should, but in these big games, they haven’t seemed to play as well.
I think that's tough to say since we don't ever blitz.
We had 4 lineman under 285 pounds who were very rarely getting manhandled by 5 lineman that average 320. It’s not like they are going to get sacks on every other play. I think they did exactly what the nation’s best d-line should do all night long. Can you point out any clear mistakes?
Remember that last year Edds and Angerer were capable of shutting down a lot of the short pass routes thus giving the D-line the extra second they needed to get a sack.
Also: Wisky had 142 yards rushing. That’s 100 less than they average, 25 less than vs MSU, and 15 less than vs tOSU.
I don't know the drive stats
but how many rushing yards did they have on the last drive? We got no push, and didn’t get off blocks. While I understand that in our system, their job is largely to occupy blockers, you have to expect them to make a few plays in that situation, and they didn’t do it. I realize they aren’t very big, but we’ve also known that from the beginning, so it can’t really be used as an excuse. And just to be clear, I’m not saying they’re garbage or they aren’t playing their asses off. I’m simply saying maybe they aren’t as good as we thought.
But that means we adjusted before halftime
And Wisky adjusted after it. Meaning we needed to readjust to their adjust. Followed by a readjust to our readjust. And then they would re-readjust to our re-readjust.
Jokes aside, the 3rd quarter is really the only quarter Wisky won. So, that may speak to your point.
It will be interesting to see if the team continues to fight or folds after this game
If they fold, this loss was a program defining moment like beating PSU in 2008.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
Absolute OU game
Hard to lose such a great fucking game, lots of big plays. OUCH.
Not being prepared for fake punt in situation where possession could win game or would set up tough chance for Wisky offense to pull game out…..and calling the last timeout with 12 seconds left when spike allowed full panoply of options to set up fieldgoal,
OUTCOACHED.
Feels kind of like justice for LSU. One of handful of great moments in Hawkeye football history, painted in glory and glee in all our memeries, was set up by pathetic clock management. Caught up with us today.
OK, Having said that, I’m keepin perspective. KOK called a great game, we are so fortunate to have a tremendous coach and human being like captain Kirk, and it is great to be a Hawkeye.
So what i got out of that game
Offense is good, and our line was damn good
Defense may be overrated, especially the secondary, but is still good
our special teams is a fucking mess and has lost us two games this year
Coaches need to grow some fucking balls
thats what i got out of this game.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 7:02 PM CDT reply actions
And how KF responds to this game will prove to me weither he is actually a great coach.
and not just an above average one
by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 23, 2010 7:04 PM CDT reply actions
Glad we'll finally settle that issue.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Only way to settle that is by sending him down to Florida...
…and seeing if he can win at a school where 4 star recruits fall out of the sky.
Screw this.
I’m going to go annoy people at BSD again.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
Fugi still thinks he can convince me to turn my back on Iowa.
Hillarious.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way
The “Hawkeye” cigar by Victor Sinclair is incredible. Life changing.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
by ckmneon on Oct 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is your late night games open thread, too.
I’m not keeping two threads open.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Sanity.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
What's that?
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
Something in short supply around here today.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So...we are 7-4
in our last 11 games. Of those four losses, we were favored in the three. Of those seven wins we were under dogs in one.
hmmmm…
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Were we dogs to Georgia Tech?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
the best spread I saw at game time was +5
but if you were in vegas it was +6.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Iowa +4 was the final spread
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, in a bar in Ottumwa.
in Vegas the night of the game it was +6. My buddy called me from the Bellagio and asked if I wanted action. I took it.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
It is worth pointing out that in those four losses
we had the lead or were tied in the fourth quarter in all but one.
We were +6 in the GTech game.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I sure as hell hope we are the dog next week
I’m betting the line will be even or we will be 1.5-3 pt underdogs at home. And we should be.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably more like 3
I’d say the perception is that MSU and Iowa are fairly even, and I’ll give three points for homefield advantage (which, after today, means something if it’s Iowa’s home field; Podolak thinks that was the loudest he’s ever heard Kinnick, right before Greenwood’s pick). People (not you, but some) seem to forget that spreads aren’t designed to predict who wins, they’re designed to make the most money off of suckers who bet on a certain team. More than anything, spreads are based on perception of a team’s quality, accurate or not.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
Completely off topic
but anybody watching the fights tonight? I just realized it’s a hell of a night, with OU-Mizzou (which could turn out to be decent), Tenn-Bama (Tenn is looking frisky early), Miami-UNC, game 6, and UFC 121.
Special teams giveth and special teams taketh.
As Mizzou just found out.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I just figured out why we lost!
Because I couldn’t get the damn game in HD!
DC
Got the ACC gem of a game featuring Georgia Tech vs Clemson and for some reason ESPN had an HD blackout for all the other 3:30 games they. I’m guessing it is to piss of Big Ten fans and get them mad at the Big Ten network.
I am betting that Fran Mac
will be a very aggressive coach. And I wonder what effect it will have on Kirk. If any.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Color me intrigued
/looks fwd to reading an SMA post about this this winter
The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan
We lost because
we got our Norm faces taken away :/
That and I pin this one on special teams. A missed XP, bad block coverage where Gilroy (?) ran to almost the 50, bad snap for a field goal, and missing the fake punt (although I’m not too mad about that one since it was 4/4). BUT anyway, yeah Stanzi should have spiked the ball (maybe get a 5th down?) and saved the clock and time outs. I dunno, I’m just hurt and disappointed. And my stupid niece from Iowa State is getting on my case about how State won and we lost. that AND the stupid Wisconsin marching band was there making fun of our marching band….
I’m just a sad panda right now.
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
What was up with Kastens? He just seemed like a “I hate everything” person tonight
-HMB fossil
-Was standing right behind you guys
sorry my reply to this is below
in a separate post :/
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
Speaking of special teams
Gilreaths return out to the 50 came after an Iowa offside on the previous kick when the Hawks tackled him at the 20. Bielema made Iowa kick again, and he got it out to midfield.
The penalty itself was only 5 yards, but in reality it was a 30 yarder.
No.... this is the iowa sad panda....
that being said…. cmon now.. you guys are better than this….
JoePa – coaching PSU 140 Characters at a time
SPECIAL FUCKING TEAMS
let extra point get blocked-strike 1
bad snap/hold on field goal attempt-strike 2
offsides on kickoff-strike 3
fell for fake punt-strike 4
And still only lost by a point.
by TEXaco on Oct 23, 2010 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
We could've won by at least 10...
…so there’s that.
"Your shit's weak! Shit's weak!"
by rinseandrepeat on Oct 23, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I dunno
but the trombones have had bandanas and flags since the beginning of the year, and this is the first time things like this have been enforced. that and they said that they were taking our Norm faces because “they already got on TV so they’re done”. I mean, c’mon, we’re adults you can tell us what you really think (“we want uniformity”)….
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
I just skimmed through, but
at the time I thought the sideline called timeout because when the ball was moved forward the formation would be wrong and we wouldn’t get enough guys on the line, like we did in the Cap One Bowl. If that was the decision, but the line did finally get set, it’s just the call that can’t be called back from the sideline, and not necessarily a bad one. Frankly, poorly handled by the refs and Stanzi. But as far back as they were, that’s why I didn’t understand the sneak call. We needed another rollout pass there, in my opinion. Then, if we had to call timeout, we would at least be further downfield. It could fail, but I think we would have given ourselves a better chance to succeed.
End of the day, special teams have ruined this game, the Arizona game, and while not the entire season, the one great season which was within this team’s grasp.
In Norm we trust.
What the hell are we going to do next week against MSU or against OSU?
They way we have played against good teams this year, our special teams could cost us both games.
I’m also worried about Indy and NU….I think the sky is falling right now.
by Black&Gold Blood on Oct 23, 2010 8:34 PM CDT reply actions
Yep
because losing by one point, to a good team, is certainly reason to assume the sky is falling.
Does Iowa have some issues? Yes, especially on special teams as has haunted us all season. But we’re not exactly in meltdown mode because we dropped a game (admittedly one we should have won)
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Ok
chicken little.
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Oct 23, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't read all the comments
so excuse me if I repeat other. FUCK IOWA STATE AND THEIR COCK SUCKING FAN BASE. you beat a mediocre Texas team Yes, beating Texas is still impressive. But it is about fucking time you beat them. If you want something to brag about, beat Texas when they’re worth two shits. And yes, Iowa lost. To a great team that beat the poop out of #1 Ohio State. We got beat by 1 point. Rewind to this time last week. Where were those arrogant assholes? Nursing a 52-0 ass raping to Oklahoma. My sincere apologies to CyHawk. I appreciate him as a commenter here and think he is a good contributor here. Jesus. Yes, I’m upset about the loss. But we don’t make it a point to rub it in when you get beat by 52 points. I would like to see you keep it within 3 TD’s against Wisconsin, Ohio State and even Northwestern for that matter. I’m normally not this hot headed but it’s a venting thread. So I’m gonna fucking vent.
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Oct 23, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
They're meeting the plane at the airport tonight.
For beating a team that won’t be in the top 25 next week. How very Iowa State of them.
But the Jacks won on Hobo Days!
So there’s that.
by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Oct 23, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
they’ve been playing really well lately. But because of that all I got to see was the Wisky TD and the ensuing shit show drive.
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Oct 23, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
don't worry i know what you mean
my niece put a facebook status along those lines and i wrote saying “you didn’t see me last week saying that we won in the big house while you got raped up your assholes” i kind of want to smack her
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
An interesting family dynamic you have going on there
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
ha
Off Tackle Empire
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Graham Filler on Oct 24, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, i don’t like it either. I was watching the Iowa game in the 4th quarter, and i was pissed when we had to use that last damn time out. I always root for and watch Iowa games (- isu game, of course) and follow them almost as closely as i do the Cyclones. Damn if this put a bit of a damper on the ISU – Texas game…Hopefully a mad-as-hell Hawkeye team can go give Sparty the ass-kicking of a lifetime on Saturday. Go Hawks…and ’Clones!
Seems fair.
She was on the verge of tears, for fuck’s sake.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That's alright. I honestly figure we will go bowling.
It just might be Deeee troit.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 23, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
so was clayborn in post-game interview
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sourcemgnews#p/u/11/h1xvtBReODw
…and i loved his wrecked emotion. seems appropriate and i fully anticipate him ripping off a few Spartan limbs next week. the gee golly happy-go-lucky attitude displayed in the other player interviews, especially Sandeman and Vandervelde, pissed me off. not fair on my part, i know. still brooding. go hawks, etc.
I knew I would end up seeing her again
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't it the same girl from the jNW game last year?
I’m almost positive that weeping girl from today was face-in-hands girl from last season.
by The Mexican't on Oct 24, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I honestly
about put my foot through her face on TV
THE MOON WALK WAS A HOAX. YOUR POPCORN IS SHIT. JOLLY TIME FOREVER. FUCK PURDUE-RossWB
by Pain in the Sash on Oct 23, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I am a bit disappointed in KF response to questions about the time out
he kind of downplayed it as not a major reason for the loss. I think he is saying it never should have come to the final drive. And that is a nice sentifiment, if he in fact feels that way. But my goodness, this is football. You have to play to the bitter end with everything you’ve got. We have a kicker who could just hit a long one.
I remain unsettled by the fact that Iowa was not prepared after a QB sneak with an immediate spike. Otherwise, if your plan in the huddle on 4th down is to sneak it, call a time out, and hope for an out pattern 10 yards down field where you WR goes out of bounds, then that is not a reality I am familiar with…that is a worst case scenario that we designed for ourselves.
The call there is to either, be daring and go down field on 4th down OR call the spike after converting the QB sneak. Then you have 9 seconds or maybe more and you have the whole field to work with and a timeout.
But in my heart, I know the fake punt cost us our best shot to win the game. Not even having one guy stay at home in the middle for that is beyond the pale. After Eastern Illinois did it to us also. I mean, Ferentz called a punt safe against Penn State last year with how much time left? This game is very close to over if we have our shit together there.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 23, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
Stop them there and the game is over. And anyway, we had them pinned relatively deep. Why would we not rush more than two guys anyway? At worst a booming punt puts us back to what, the 35? 30? Rush that fucker!
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand why 9 guys are sprinting the other direction
are we really trying to put on a return there? We had not returned anything all night of any consequence? Whatever.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Right, exactly.
Why have a return call on at all? Fair catch it or let it go. But get after the punter!
Ugh. Whatever indeed.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely
Heck, at that point in the game forget the returner and just let it roll dead.
by Brock Sampson on Oct 23, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
saw Bret B's postgame
We made that call once I saw them send out the punt return unit.
Yeah, we placed our RETURN team on the field with less than 7 minutes left in a game where they have one time out and have not stopped our offense once in the last three series.
Really disappointing.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
And then gave up a long run on a fake punt
which was basically the same play Eastern Illinois ran. Fool me once……
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 23, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I nearly murdered my cat today
It was 10% because Iowa lost and 90% because I found out he had been shitting on an unused couch in the basement.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It's the PRINCIPLE that's at stake
That cat has to learn that only HFMR can shit on the unused couch. Gotta set boundaries.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He had PLANS for that couch!!!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2010 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Fuckin' A, man.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Regarding the spike vs TO at the end
At first I thought it was a big screwup, but really I don’t think it mattered that much. They needed more than ten yards to get into FG range anyway, with one play to get it. If you get it that stops the clock on the first down, you run up and spike it, and get the FG team out. If you don’t get ten yards on that play then you are only left with a hopeless hail mary at best anyway. So, I wouldn’t say it cost them that much although it certainly looked strange at the time.
disagree
you cannot get a team set after a 10 yard play for a spike…no timeout also ment Wisconsin only played the edges. They hoped Iowa went over the middle.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I think there were 12 seconds at the snap
So a 6-7 second play assuming the receiver goes down immediately, leaves 3-4 seconds to line up and spike it. It would have been right on the edge but maybe possible. I’m just reaching to make some sense of it because otherwise I don’t know what they were doing.
by Brock Sampson on Oct 23, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately it doesn't look like our coaching staff knew what they were doing.
If you sneak it for the first, you clock it. Or run the fake clock/throw. If you aren;t going to do that, you throw. And if you have no TOs with 10 seconds left, you throw a hail mary or something deep to the sidelines. ARob shouldn’t have even been there. If he is in the pattern, it should be on a wheel route, near the sidelines.
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 23, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Robinson should have been in there.
What’s wrong with having him as a last resort if need be? He’s a pretty good receiver out of the backfield.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry I meant there
in space and time. He shoudl have been near the sidelines, or slanting towards the sidelines
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 23, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Not inside the hashes
I would have loved him as an option wheeling to the sideline then heading up
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 23, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That's two losses in which the defense failed to make a stop in the 4th quarter.
So… “not having Norm Parker” is clearly the poll-worrisome winner from here on out, yeah?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
we stopped them
then let them convert a fake punt.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
And then failed to stop them again.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
How many stops do they need for it to count?
It was a problem though. They converted what, two fourth downs (plus puntfakegate) and several thirds on that last drive? I’m very surprised they got through all those.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
KFs response about the spike/TO is embarrassing
and wrong.
From Rittenberg
“We took the timeout,” Ferentz said. “We talked about it ahead of time. Could have clocked it. Cost you a couple, three seconds there. You could flip a coin on that one. Again, I don’t think it’s exactly the turning point.”
It didn’t cost us a couple seconds. It cost us the chance to throw to the middle of the field. DJK or McNutt on one of those slants, or Reisner down the seam. It was terrible clock management.
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 23, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions
yep, when you're paid like one of the Top 10 college football coaches
you’re expected to coach well for 12 weekends a year. I am not going to kill Ferentz forever on this. He has weaknesses as a coach, and they are well discussed. His conservative nature is largely his best attribute. But there are times, like today, where he needs to have a better feel for the game. Two spots show he did not, one) not being more agressive on the final scoring drive and two) being oblivious to a punt fake.
We still had another fourth down that we could have stopped them on. So I know he is focused on that. And it is fair to do so. We have a renowned defense and one would expect them to stop a 4th and 5 late in the game. But if Ferentz is going to rely on us out executing everyone, week in and week out, then we wil have moments like this.
Iowa is 7-4 in their last 11 now. With arguably the most talent they have ever had in the Ferentz era.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Stoops, buddy.
I really, really hate selective stats like that one.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
which one?
their record in the past 11 games? That a pretty large sample…like a year’s worth.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I prefer this one.
Iowa is 9-2 in their last 11 games where Stanzi played the entire game.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
So I guess my point is that two of those losses are a bit unfair because going from Stanzi to frosh Vandy was, well, it wasn't that good.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
we've won one game in that span in which we were the underdog
and lost 3 in which we were favored. That is worth looking at.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Well, I'm not going to look at anything right now since my eyes are doing this weird spinny thing when I try to type.
I think I should go to bed.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Pfft! Ha! Right. Bed.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
Losing to
Northwestern can be excused. This game? Maybe not. Arizona? That was a clusterfuck in which the coach spent the whole week lamenting that he even needed to play it.
I am on record as saying we need to cop a better attitude if we want to swim with the sharks of college football. We don’t stockpile talent, so our margin for error is small.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
We can still salvage a great year
an 11 win season is still out there. I’m hoping for the best.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
You know Bellanca is gonna say the swagger was a foolish mistake.
I know you can take him though.
See you on the week days, man.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Bellanca can tout
humilty all day long. I iike humility. But I’m not in it to be on the warm fuzzy side of the morality play. I am in it to win and go to the Rose Bowl. Last I checked, we pay our coach more than any other the conference…to what? Teach us life lessons? People need to grow up. This is a man’s business.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 23, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
Stoops is still alive.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
You can’t make that much money and then pretend like you’re equal to a $30K/yr kindergarten teacher when you screw up.
In order to win 11 games....
we have to play PERFECT football. Based on Zona and Wiscy, I’m not sure if that is possible.
by Black&Gold Blood on Oct 23, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, the salary issue.
It’s been a while since that chestnut got brought up.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I really think this loss is on the coaches.
That’s sad to me.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Maybe Ferentz should worry less about DJKs twitter
and more about fixing the special teams.
We let them convert a fake punt that was essentially the same play Eastern Illinois ran against us. Bielema obviously watched the tape. How was that not fixed?
Jesus, what the hell is Dantoni and MSU going to do to our special teams.
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 23, 2010 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
I don't think he had to watch tape.
The punt fake was an in-game adjustment. Iowa’s coverage team left an obvious weakness and Bielema caught on. Props to him for making the call.
by The Mexican't on Oct 24, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Or you could be me at BSD.
“Hahaha suck it, Rambler! I told you Iowa was lucky last year!”
I guess I deserve it.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably.
Some answers I don’t even know.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
and, for the record, we were lucky last year
we are ostensibly better this year, by as much as 1 1/2 times better. But we are killing our own talent. Playing 9 true freshmen on our special teams makes me think I don’t understand what is going on around here….
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Rambler
I just want to let you know I see Stoops comment, which coincidentally supports my point at BSD. And I would also like to add “neener neener neener”.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Stoops is often wrong.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
This seems kinda stalk-y that you followed him here
What other blogs do you stake out watching for him?
by Brock Sampson on Oct 23, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Cut it out.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I lurk here
And on rare occasions, post! And upon seeing the results of your game, wanted to stop by to see the fallout. Good-natured schadenfreude, you know?
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Our talent pool has no middle.
We have very good starters at most every position. We have some promising young talent from a few recent recruiting classes (guys like K Davis, J Morris, Fiedorowicz, etc.). In-between is a lot of question marks and, it seems, middling talent. A lot of project guys that may/may not develop — but probably not until they’re JR/SR types.
We’re getting hurt all over the field by deficiencies in recruiting from a few years ago, to varying degrees. It’s why we have no upperclassmen at RB and why we have to rely on A-Rob for everything (or entrust a true freshman who missed a ton of practice with carries). It’s why we have to rush out a true freshman at LB. It’s why we have no depth at safety. Why an unproven guy like Hyde is starting at CB. And so on. And it’s really killing us on special teams — those RB/S/LB/TE types have always been the backbone of our special teams units — coverage, returns, etc. — and we have a real lack of talent there. We have starters (many of whom are injured, if you’re looking at RB or LB) and we have freshmen… and damn little in-between. That’s a goddamn problem.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Oct 24, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with Morehouse
our special teams problems is a one of philosophy. We play too many true freshmen there. The extra point failure is a matter of discipline. But while KF blames those failures for our losses, we were tied or leading in the 4th quarter despite them and still lost.
Missouri showed last night that a) you can depend on freshmen and b) you have to stay within your agressiveness until the game is in hand. Too often KF hope other teams fail. Over the course of 20 games his philosophy, he’s going to be right. Over the course of a special season with the most talent he has ever had and a senior QB loaded with skill talent, it is risky.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
post fail
Missouri showed last night that a) you cannot depend on freshmen
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I wonder what Tim Brewster is doing tonight.
by Pubes in Pink Urinals on Oct 23, 2010 9:49 PM CDT reply actions
wishing he could run his new super-duper
trick play against our special teams to finally score a TD against Iowa
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 23, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Minnesota's super-duper trick play against Penn State was called "pass interference penalties"
Hard to stop.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Putting together his resume to be the next Oakland Raiders HC
Really, would you be that surprised if it happened?
by Brock Sampson on Oct 23, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So... I just got rear ended by a drunk driver on Bowery Street
She fled the scene… I chased… giving play by play to the police.
She’s arrested, and I just got back from the police station.
But, the worst part of my day is STILL the fake punt.
by iowabeakster on Oct 23, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
HAHAH thats too good...
But bad for the Hawks!
by Black&Gold Blood on Oct 23, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
was she hot
I would have let her walk for “extras”. Oh and that fake punt sucked too.
No, gone blame it dang varmits!
by Gabby Johnson on Oct 23, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Did she have big tits?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I said 'big tits'
not ‘pulsating cock vein’
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
just playin' yo
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I would never joke about that
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
was she hot...
Funny (or horribly mean) you should ask…
While chasing her around downtown, the police dispatcher asked me for a description of the driver.
I said, “Male, white, fat…”
I constantly said things like, “Now HE just turned east onto Washington Street.”
After she stepped out to stumble through the sobriety test (and that was after I had her blocked into a parking spot, where she opened the door to pour out her PBR), I still thought it was a man.
It wasn’t until I got to the police station and the officer said, “Actually, it’s a woman… I had to do a double take when she gave me her license.”
by iowabeakster on Oct 24, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
cops give you grief about playing vigilante hero?
by The Final Gun on Oct 24, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
no, they thanked me...
She was REALLY tanked. I had no idea what the back of my car looked like until it was alll over… I just wanted whoever hit me to pay for damage.
by iowabeakster on Oct 24, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
hope that works out for you . . .
hope she’s insured.
by The Final Gun on Oct 24, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Good work, beakster.
If there is ever a next time, try to chase him/her into crashing into the Red jeep that Cedar Rapids uses to take photos of speeders. That would make me happy.
/I’mJusKidding, if what I just typed is somehow illegal to type.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 24, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
This is weird
But I just had a weird vision of Herky being chased and Tased on Cops. That was really sort of awesome. It’s like an acid flashback, only better.
"Yeah, and that’s bullshit, cause Boise plays Kirkwood every other weekend".
Smokin' Herb Grigsby's Mom (+1, I say)
moving on from big boobs
at least the Rickster didn’t throw an INT or get sacked….
I’ve been trying to think of the good things that happened today…
and I’m pretty sure I’m sitting across the way from Shaun Prater but way too embarrassed to go say something like “it was a good game”
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
pic?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, yeah, maybe.
But really, 6 of one at this point. But yeah, you might be right. Either way he rolled right into a TFL.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He lost 11 yards.
Whether or not it technically goes down as a sack, it was a terrible play. And at a horribly inopportune moment in the game.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
drown it
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I made lasagna
I wish you all could be here to experience it
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
I have a headache ~ still
I don’t exactly know what to feel right now, aside from the unsettling feeling that we were unprepared for certain situations. Iowa needs to have crisp end-game scenarios. It needs to be solid in special teams. The Hawks were lacking ~ in spots ~ tonight.
I do believe Norm is missed more than we realize.
I do believe that Bielema is a tool.
I do believe I want to do felony-bad things to #34, and the refs who didn’t know a chop block from a hole in the ground.
I’m going to bed.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 23, 2010 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate Brett Bielema
I kind of want to do felony-band things to him too. So, whenever you want to go do that, let me know…
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
Did he punch a hooker in the throat?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
stupid hookers
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Today I changed my BBM name to Emmett Fitz-Hume
My friend questioned it and I although I felt like I shouldn’t have to, I explained that it was Chevy Chase’s character in Spies Like Us. He then admitted that he has never seen it.
My question now is: Do I stop being friends with him?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
Tell him you were going to install the Disney Channel for free for him, but now...
Forget it.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You just watch your mouuuuuuuuth mister
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Forgive me, but what is "BBM"?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 23, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Black Berry Messenger
(I Googled it!)
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
same
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
We could open a window; you could shout it towards Moscow.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Soulfinger...
By the Barkays!
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
That's it
I’m watching it
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Wish I owned it.
But the DVD version is ass-awful. No wide screen version, shitty features, etc. Sucks.
Col. Rhombus is not amused.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Why don't you gentlemen have a Pepsi?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
All the things you say that it lacks is true
But this isn’t really the sort of movie that needs wide screen and extras, is it?
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
It is a good movie...
and you wouldn’t think it would need special features.
But, I own a $5 copy from Wal-Mart, and have watched it maybe twice.
Every comedy from now on should be forced to include a two-hour blooper reel, because how awesome would that make Chevy Chase movies?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 23, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
You can go ahead and keep the stool samples
by iowabeakster on Oct 24, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
You guys ...
are a bunch of dickfors.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 24, 2010 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions
So...
is it official that our defense ain’t as great as we all thought/hoped it was? 29 points per game in the last two weeks. At least tonight was against a team with a giant offensive line and multiple running backs, I’m sure we won’t see that again.* Also, am I the only one who thinks Jacody Coleman would be very helpful right about now? And the worst thing is, my uncle (a Wisconsin grad) was with me at the game today, and took us all out to dinner at Carlos O’Kelly’s afterward. So I can’t even convince myself that the Badgers are all a bunch of douches (while their coach certainly is).
==Deep breath==
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
Watched the game today with a former player
I won’t say who because I don’t know if he would have a problem with his statements being repeated. As Wisconsin was running it down our throats at one point, he said that when something like this happened, Norm would make little tweaks in the defensive setup to slow the offense down. He said he didn’t see that happening today.
In reading the comments from Clayborn at the Gazette, particularly “something’s missing”, I can’t help but think about what, or more importantly who, has been missing.
In Norm we trust.
by Mr. Grizz on Oct 23, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The bigger issue with Norm missing
is that we are down a coach. It is beginning to show. Someone, or several coaches, are doing double duty. Special teams is apparently suffering as well because of it. But, yeah, the defense looks very vanilla this year. I don’t mind the execution mindset, but these are 18-23 year olds and occasionally you need to call a special play to make them feel like they don’t have to be so perfect.
Bottom line, Wisky took advantage of opportunities. They say a punt return team in, exploited it. Benefitted from poor clock management. We never really got them to the breaking point, always had them in it.
We move on. But I have to say, I better see a wrinkle or two next week. At least one. If KF, with the season hanging in the balance, goes out and tries to just our execute vanilla against MSU, I’m going to be apoplectic.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 23, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't always agree with Stoops...
but when I do, I prefer special teams.
When I saw how spread out we were on that punt, I tried to convince myself that we were in trouble. But then, I thought to myself “Does Bielema really want to look like a huge idiot if they don’t get all four yards?” And then, they ran by most of our dudes.
My swagger was never very high this year, but at some point, in the dark recesses of my mind, I let myself believe we could win them all. Then, we lost to AZ. This week, I let myself believe that Iowa could take some path to a Big Ten title and BCS bowl.
Now, I’m starting to wonder IF we CAN beat MSU, OSU, or (gulp) jNW.
Our linebackers look like absolute sh!t (albeit, very young sh!t). Our kicking game looks suspect at best (although Donahue had two great punts). McNutt can’t decide whether he is an all-big-ten WR, or if he is a taller version of Herb Grigsby. ISU can beat Texas, but we can’t hold a giant, plodding Big Ten team under 30 points.
Somebody give me some answers. Help me find a happy place. Find a happy place!
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 23, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Comparing McNutt to Grigsby? Really?
ISU can beat Texas, but we can’t hold a giant, plodding Big Ten team under 30 points.
Aside from the fact that they were both college football games and they were within six hours of one another, what exactly do they have to do with one another?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Was this not the venting thread?
I’m not being completely logical or serious right now.
But, you have to admit, McNutt is dropping too many. He ain’t Grigsby, but I’m starting to get a bit concerned.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 24, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Did McNutt drop a single pass today?
Venting thread or not, that complaint holds no water today.
by The Mexican't on Oct 24, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I seem to recall one or two drops early
But my memory isn’t perfect on it, just that I remember being pissed off at something McNutt did early in the game. And he definitely came on later in the game.
I mentioned this last week that, after being incredibly sure-handed last season, McNutt’s been prone to some bad drops this season. Not a ton, but the ones I can remember seem to be at the most inopportune time (or are a disaster like the Arizona pick-six). It’s not like he’s Grigsby or Brodell’s cloven-hoves, but McNutt appears, to me at least, not as reliable this year as he was last.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You're probably thinking of the penalty he was at fault for in the first half that moved Iowa back before the botched FG attempt.
He was definitely at fault for the illegal motion penalty there; he was not at fault for the false start right before that — that was Reiff’s doing, if the box score at Hawkeye Sports is to be believed anyway.
On the whole, this season, he hasn’t been as glue-handed as he was last year, but I don’t think he was at fault for that today. He caught seven passes (more than anyone else) and had a really clutch catch on 3rd and 21 late in the game, right before Spikegate.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Oh absolutely
And I freely admit that my thoughts on McNutt are completely subjective and one of “perception” trumping reality.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He also
didn’t hang onto a catch in the end zone in either the 1st or 2nd quarters.
BTW, does the IH Red Zone thing annoy anyone else?
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
I make fun of the Case/IH thing with the guy that sits behind me.
But I can’t get too obnoxious about it, because I usually hitch a ride to the games with some relatives who have utilized Case equipment on their farm for a long time.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 24, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh.
One, comparing McNutt to Grigsby even at McNutt’s most drop-happy point this year is pretty egregious. At no point this season has McNutt ever been close to that bad.
Two, there were a ton of things to complain about today, but McNutt’s drops really wasn’t one of them, so it seems odd to single that out.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You can't.
Posts here are like herpes – here forever.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 23, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
and they seem to flare up at the worst times
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 23, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
you mean we can't just scape them off
and tell our one night stand that it’s ok because it’s not flaring up?
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
Been mustering up the strength to post all night long. It is so hard to reconcile how terrible I feel right now. . .
with the fact that we are two BASIC football plays away from being undefeated and the consensus #1 or #2 team in the nation.
Not: “if we’d only put together a 80-yard drive” but rather “if we’d only stopped two 80 yard drives”.
Not “if we could have had a special teams touchdown, we’d be right in it” but "if we could have stopped a special teams touchdown, Arizona wouldn’t have been in it.
Not “if we can just block a couple field goals” but rather “if we could only make a FUCKING EXTRA POINT”.
People here will be exploring this game from every angle for the next few days, and then the next few years . . . I’ll be taking part. But a big thing to take away tonight is that the difference between greatness and fodder for Iowa State jokes is extremely fucking thin. We are good enough this year that we could be comfortably undefeated with some basic execution and game management.
Finally though, you are your record.
O God, they just showed Adrian Clayborn crying on television. Fuck it. I can’t go on anymore.
by The Final Gun on Oct 23, 2010 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
One more thing:
Ferentz was Les Miles before Les Miles was cool. I love our coach and our coaching staff, and I trust them to get us way more wins than we deserve with the talent we put out there, but a part of his philosophy that he may want to reconsider is Ferentz’ laissez faire end-of-game clock management. I think his philosophy is something like: “good football teams don’t need fancy-pants two-minute drills” good football teams are kneeling the ball when there are two minutes left." As much as I appreciate that philosophy, it bites us in the ass occasionally. It almost did in the Outback Bowl (where Les Miles learned everything about clock management he knows. It did tonight.
But as I was walking and drinking in the rain just now (I am soooo fucking emo), I was thinking about the game, I don’t know which one, over the last couple years that we would have lost without Kirk Ferentz’ stalwart conservatism. A game that we won by running up the gut, kicking a field goal, trusting our defense to make a stop, that would have otherwise ended in a disastrous pick-six or fumble or whatever.
Today we swallowed the bitter pill that prevented us from losing that game (or several of them). Of course, basic things like sniffing out a fake punt occasionally don’t require rethinking our entire conservative play-calling philosophy . .
I hate to say it...
but Bielema knows Kirk almost better than Kirk knows himself. And, of course, Bielema got lucky. And, the last two minutes were an abortion of a fluky clusterf*** of a nightmare of a sh!tstorm.
But you are right. The best teams thrive on (and occasionally have to manufacture) that late-game chaos. I would argue that niether our defense nor our offense did so tonight.
I was watching the end of the Oklahoma-Mizzou game. I was struck at how similar Pinkel and Ferentz are. Both very even-keeled. Both recruit adequate/good players who often play over their heads. Both have won a couple of conference/division titles that were overshadowed by a more nationally-renowned team.
My question: what happens to Iowa in the new Big Ten (next year and beyond). Do we sink back to the pack? Do we win our division and get overshadowed by OSU? Do we just keep on keepin’ on? Do we have Norm Parker’s vital organs surgically implanted into Coach Kaz’s body, like the movie Smokin’ Aces? Do we allow Michael Meyers to go full-on Michael Myers and start knifing random Big Ten opponents? Do we calm down after tonight, get back to work on Monday, and win some more ballgames?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 23, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you exclamation point an i in shitstorm? password thing?
by The Final Gun on Oct 23, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I just type it like that...
because I’m writing this on a work-provided computer. If anybody ever looks back at my internet doings, I can claim I am not swearing on the intranets.
Lame, I know. But I am what I yam.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 23, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Regarding going forward . . . the blueprint for beating us is still pretty fucking intimidating . . .
Be great. Execute. Avoid stupid turnovers. Get lucky on special teams. And then, only then, you’ll be in a position to take advantage of Iowa weaknesses.
The awesome thing moving forward? Ferentz will see the pattern (hell, we all do) and adjust. He did with bowl prep. I hope.
by The Final Gun on Oct 23, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wrote it earlier and I'll write it again;
I couldn’t find my lucky black and gold Hamburg Inn No.2 shirt this morning and it cost us the game. I’ll be swallowing an entire bottle of sleeping pills with a Jim Beam chaser now. It’s been nice knowing all of you.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Normally, I'd say "relax, don't do it" Kyle...
but you did cost us a big game today, so…
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 23, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
If you can fucking find the fucking fucker.
Wasted 30 motherfucking minutes looking for it this morning.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 23, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
awesome . . . I'm gonna be at your place on 11/13.
Assuming widow-McCann’t will still be throwing the party in your absence?
by The Final Gun on Oct 23, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're coming
the night after the party? Weird.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
We shall discuss it no more lest feelings be hurt.
Use that RSVP function.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
so what you're saying is . . .
I don’t get the shirt?
Anyway . . . I’m out. Look at the bright side. I could have severe dementia in just 25-30 years and have forgotten this season ever happened. I’m joking, of course. This is a good team.
by The Final Gun on Oct 24, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
YOU'RE HAVING A PARTY?!??!?!?!?
I’m pissed.
by The Mexican't on Oct 24, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Apparently our D is severely overrrated
They must have been reading the press clippings all offseason cuz they kinda sucked today. Norm will rip them a new asshole this week before MSU. BTW, if anyone can get me outta wisko, I would appreciate it. Honestly, badga fans are the WORST, KILL ME
by InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on Oct 24, 2010 1:49 AM CDT reply actions
Fuck Bielema
and the smug fucking grin….bastard knew he stole the game and if only he were next to me so I could break his fucking jaw and then douse him in gasoline while shitting in my hand, sticking a candle in it, and then throwing it right in his fucking face.
About the sound level...
I’ve been to 50+ games in the last 10 years at Kinnick and I thought the sound level was incredible right before Greenwood’s pick. Usually you hear an uptick in the noise when an interception or some sort of favorable Iowa play happens, but it was so loud all ready, I don’t think the fans knew how to get any louder.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, I also don’t think I’ve heard a Kinnick crowd get as quite as they did when the ref announced the decision of the review of the Wisc TD/fumble at the end of the game. The silence only lasted a second or two, but it was still really spooky seeing 70,000+ people and not hearing anything.
Today hurts
Excruciating. What a punch in the dick. I thought about pulling a junior seau and driving off a cliff.
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