This Week with Bo Schembechler, or, Flag Football is for Girls.
Wow, that was close. Our hidebound devotion to such ridiculous conventions as "tackling", "blocking", "running to daylight", "backside contain", "keeping the QB in one piece", and the like, almost cost us.
Forthwith, a transcript of This Week with Bo Schembechler, with guests Rich Rodriguez, Bill Parcells, Kirk Ferentz, and Matt Roth.
BS: Welcome, and it's Sunday morning with This Week with me, Bo Schembechler. I may be dead, but the game I love lives yet, and thank goodness.
BP, KF, MR: Hey, Coach.
RR: Who the fuck are you?
BS: Pipe down, Rodriguez, children are eating breakfast and trying to determine their football future.
RR: I am the fucking future. Fuck this, fuck that, fuck you, fuck fuck fuck I say clearly on national TV while my team melts down. If you don't understand that you are a loser, a HATER, and a Lloyd Carr sympathizer, I don't know what to say. Get on with it, then.
BS: Stand by for this message from our sponsor, Ford Trucks, because Ford Trucks work, deliver, and don't break in half at crucial moments, unlike a certain foul-mouthed glorified offensive coordinator who is wrecking the greatest college football program in American history. Rodriguez, this is a gag ball. I'm strapping it on your face.
All: /whoa.
*****
BS: So, I'm Bo Schembechler, you are not, and this is my show. I offer the following quote from my illustrious past, when I walked amongst the living:
"When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft; on the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing."
BS: Coach Ferentz: your comments?
KF: It's a funny deal. I was getting coffee the other day, listening to Mike and Mike, and I thought, What kind of deal is this? It's a tough game. With luck we won't get blown out. We're Iowa, we're not built for flash, you know, we're kinda walking along the highway picking up aluminum cans for the recycling value, hoping it doesn't rain too hard. Rain. You get wet when it rains. Are people still writing this down, or can I stop talking now?
BS: Where did you learn to talk like that?
KF: I taught English, you know. But I missed the class on mixed metaphors. And I have been married for three decades. If anyone is listening, I'm blanding. Can I talk about the weather now?
BS: Pink locker rooms and deviousness. Matt Roth, anything new with you? Aside from tattoos.
MR: Coach Ferentz is a man's coach, Bo. He would never F-bomb his own team on national TV. The other guy's a loser.
KF: Hah, I never thought of that. But if I did, Matt would either kill me or my QB, and it's a fine Indian summer, and I hope we survive practice Monday, we're so bad, I can't feature holding up against Kuchel and those guys on the scout team, they bring it every week and we're lucky if we ...
BS: This is journalism we are practicing Ferentz, so shut up. And good game. Haven't seen tackling like that around here in ...
MR: Three years? And ..
BS: You too, Hawkeye-man, ix-nay alk-tay. Bill Parcells. Appreciate the normal hue to that hair, again. What happened yesterday?
BP: Iowa committed tackle football. They blocked, they tackled, they had some guy named Kluge or Deluge or something grab a Michigan player and pick him up, shake him a few times, squeeze him, until he dropped the football and he could throw him onto the ground. Their quarterback had a "quiet" game, only his pass efficiency rating was 198+. The other team's guys ran around in circles and kicked the ball out of bounds a few times, when they weren't committing personal fouls on the offense line. It was pretty strange, to me. I thought it was supposed to be a football game between the Greatest College Football Program in the History of the Solar System, and some plodding slugs from the countryside. Not coed flag football.
MR: You forgot ...
BP: Shut up. I fired you and you work in Cleveland now. You are so-o-o-o lucky the 3-4 came back, and there is a collective bargaining agreement.
MR: You forgot that we broke Mr. Dilithium Crystal, or whatever he is. Last year we broke Baby Jesus. Flag football is unpleasant if you play a tackle football team. Can you imagine what is going to happen when those guys play Wisconsin and OSU to end the year? When both of those obsolete archaic diseased indicators of programs past are going to be playing for the polls and a better January game? When Michigan's puny little running quarterbacks are so beat up they need three shots of Xylocaine just to tie their shoes or take a piss? It's pathetic.
BS: Matt Roth, you are benched. You are on this show to be funny, not wordy. Note: I once said, "I am going to treat you all the same. Like dogs."
BP: He's a self-interested asshole but he has a point. Rodriguez is running a high school offense, and his defense and special teams DO NOT EXIST. They don't tackle, they don't kick the ball straight, they don't know the rules when a field goal is blocked, they do not, in short, have a tackle football team. You are your record, and he is 4-15 in the Big Ten. Danny Hope, at some Rensselaer of the MIdwest, or something, is 6-4 with a third string freshman QB winning games with the mid-line option on two days practice. As I understand it, Bo, it's all your fault because you hired Lloyd. And Lloyd's a moron because he played people like Tom Brady. Nobody can win football games with guys like Brady. I believe that is the story line. Better to have track men running QB iso's against people who outweigh them by 100 pounds. If my notes are correct, Daniels benches more with one arm than their quarterbacks weigh. This is a stupid offense.
BS: Thanks, Parcells, maybe you should go dye your hair again. "A Michigan Man will coach Michigan" I once said. Coach Ferentz? See that guy over there with the gag ball stuck on his face? Is he a Michigan Man? Your thoughts. The real ones, not the ones you give Bob Brooks.
KF: Excellent coach, gosh, what, I'm scratching my head trying to decide what to do against them. I remember the first time I coached a game in Ann Arbor. I was just hoping that they would let us get back on our bus, after we lost, which I knew we would, instead of making us walk to Iowa City. Michigan, wow. There isn't a more storied program than that. I just wish I had a chance to coach the waterboys in Ann Arbor, some day ...
BS: Look, buddy, the game's over, you won, can you say something useful here?
KF: Mary Sue is a good president, I remember once we were having coffee at Prairie Lights ...
BS: Forget it. Rodriguez, take that goddamned obscene thing out of your face. It's time for TWWBS 20 Questions. You are on the hot seat, a familiar one, I gather. Are you losing your temper again, or is it a motivational technique that you have had success with somewhere else?
RR: It's not my fault, there was nothing in inventory when I took over, these guys are "ridiculous" because they can't run my offense after three years, so what if I have a negative net worth net of pending lawsuit settlements, how could anyone put a decent team on the field in a state like Michigan or Ohio, the NCAA thing is a traffic ticket? I meant, Michigan. Only. We don't have a lot of football players in Michigan. It's a wasteland for football talent, unlike Indiana or Iowa.
BS: This is my show. Twenty questions. One, why does your team look like a bunch of girls, tackling? Tackling: important? Your view.
RR: Defense? Are you kidding? Injuries, Lloyd, recruiting, three years not enough. Not my fault. Everyone knows that.
BS: Two. Iowa here is running some 5'8", 190 lb guy they recruited in order to get Bernstein, he was a fourth string strong safety 18 months ago, and he had 200 yards total offense and actually converted a third and fourteen. What's so hard about tackling that guy?
RR: Hello? Defense again? Not my fault.
BS: Three. For the second time in two years Iowa knocked your QB out of the game. System? Trend? Habit? Or sheer ignorance?
RR: Got three of them, whatever, more where they came from, not my fault.
BS: Four. True or false. A blocked field goal is a live ball? Or just walk off the field hoping you don't get F-bombed by the coach on national TV?
RR: Special teams. Boring. Delegated that. Ask the other guy. Not my fault. Are you a hater?
BS: Five. Stanzi was, like, perfect in this game, no turnovers, 198 efficiency rating, one hand over his heart during the national anthem. Query: you are playing some accident prone version of Wes Welker at quarterback, and he throws a ball about as well as your backup center. Why?
RR: If he did what I told him to do, we'd score 60 every time. Kids. Get more of them with lots of stars. Not my fault.
BS: Six --
BP: Haven't we had enough of this bullshit? One team played football, the other team played hide-and-seek. Newsflash, football? Dominate and impose your will? I can't get over that Klugey guy, picking up some shrimp and shaking him until he dropped the prize. Really, it was kind of funny.
RR: Fuck you too Parcells, you are obsolete.
MR: That's really funny.
KF: Wow. Anyway, I was talking to the girl who sells me coffee at 6 a.m., saying, I just hope Wisconsin doesn't bring their *entire* team, because, you know, wow, our middle linebacker has started two games for us in five years and only had 13 tackles, a breakup and a game-ending pick. So there's that deal. That's a deal. That's some deal. Some days I don't know how I'll make it until lunch. It's always something, and I'm just trying to stay afloat here.
BS: Yeah, you and your pink locker rooms.
RR: Can I fucking go fucking now?
BS: I sure wish you would. But very pleased to see you can't control yourself on national TV again. Impressive.
MR: It's okay with me if he stays. Lot easier to beat them if he stays. Funny, really.
BS: Roth, my show, you shut up. Last warning.
KF: Then, when I was checking in with my secretary, she reads all my so-called "email", whatever that is, and gives me these little pink pieces of paper with little squares that she checks: "Urgent" or "For Your Attention" or "He wrote an email but you don't care". Good system. Just trying to keep my head above water. Paddling as fast as I can. Me: slow, small, brain-limited. Trying to remember how to say, "SAVE ME!" That sort of thing, and then ...
BS: Ferentz, stop rubbing it in.
BP: Is there any way you are available to join me in Buffalo?
RR: He'll fucking get his --"
BS: Rodriguez, you embarrass me. Now, for our weekly feature: what does the other side say? For this week's feature we turn to mgoblog.com, which reminds us, it's not how many points are on the board, it's the number of yards between the 20's, and if you don't believe that, you are a "pathological Michigan and Rodriguez hater --"
RR: Fucking straight, that.
BS: /glower.
***
"I like Rodriguez. We need to give him 4-5 more years, please."
Anyone who disagrees is a HATER. Rodriguez is 4-15 AL (after Lloyd, who, obviously, was a total loser) against the Big Ten, which doesn't matter because it is someone else's fault. I mean, contrast this with Danny Hope. Hope has the benefit of inheriting a richly talented program with a legendary local talent pool and he has had the good fortune of losing his top 2 quarterbacks, top running back, and top receiver. Of course he is doing better than we are; he's got more to work with. Of course Hope is only 6-4 v. the Big Ten, with a win over Ohio State. Hope doesn't even have the sense to blame the past for his present. Thank goodness Hope is not coaching Michigan or we would be two steps from oblivion.
Reasons to be cheerful:
Coach Rodriguez has created a new betting convention: The QB Fracture, or, In Which Quarter Will the QB Leave Because of Injury Because the Game is Tackle Football, Not Flag Football? Everybody knows that running QBs aren't hurt as often as old-school (Lloyd-ball) QBs, and it's just a statistical anomaly that in two games against an archaic Iowa program, coached by a clown who represents the past, the QB has been knocked out of the game. I'm sure it will go much better against Wisconsin and OSU. Those guys are a bunch of pussies and we'll run circles around them with our 175-lb smurf QBs, especially if the weather is bad and a couple of our O-Linemen are hurt.
He's created enormous fascination with statistical excess, as his teams run wild before a) hitting the red zone; b) throwing the ball to the wrong team (in the numbers, incidentally); c) playing an FBS school not named "Indiana". Everyone knows that it's yards between the 20's, not scoring points, that matter.
His teams run a gazillion plays (42% more than Iowa) and it's fun because it's the number of plays, not points on the board, that matter: you just never know when the next strange screw-up will turn the ball over because a good offense doesn't have to worry about efficiency, protecting the ball, in-game adjustments, idiotic penalties, etc. Managing turnovers: that's Lloyd-ball, that's neanderthal football (we'll have fun with Wisconsin and OSU, fellas, when our QBs are scotch-taped together and both of those teams are playing tackle football for polls and bowls, and the wind, rain and snow are blowing, because this system is the future and they are the past!).
His teams are proudly unconcerned with offensive efficiency: despite being the clear, dominant team on offense between the 20's, they pass for 65% of the opponents YPA, and that just shows you: his teams can pass a lot to no effect! It's so exciting! And Iowa's loser QB system. Why, Stanzi couldn't even ride the pine at Michigan. We didn't even recruit him, thank you lord. Heck he entered the game third in NCAA pass efficiency -- and raised his score to 180+. What a joke: he only threw for 248, zero picks, and a 198+ efficiency rating. Who cares if you don't have 400 yards? Winning is so boring!
Special teams don't matter at all, to him, and so what! that we look like a winless high school team trying to kick off, cover a blocked field goal (hey, why coach special teams, we don't coach defense do we?), or cover the kickoffs that do manage to stay in-bounds. Who grows up hoping to play special teams for the winningest team in college football history? Nobody! It's irrelevant! We need more such special teams innovation in the Big Ten.
Defense is an especially interesting subject in respect of Coach Rodriguez, because he's shown that such old-school, hidebound concepts as backside contain, tackling with one's legs and *both* arms, while staying square and maintaining leverage, are irrelevant. Everybody knows that it's the number of stars on a recruit's ass that determines future game success, and that's why Iowa's third-string unrecruited MIKE had 13 tackles, one pass breakup and one pick to end the game. (He just got lucky, and it isn't that he is coached to play assignment football against a wildly erratic team that's fast fast fast in timed 40's in gym shorts -- and that's why, in five years and a grand total of two starts, he has one B10 DPOTW, and maybe another one now.) That's why a team with one RB, who was a fourth-string strong safety 18 months ago,and a 5'9" rookie making his first start at fullback because the starter was hurt and the second string guy (who was a walk-on) quit, ran on third and 14 -- and got 15.
Last, he ensures that no TV network will ever mic the sideline, because children and women and more children watch these games, and it's not cool to broadcast in high definition a Michigan Man who is out of control screaming F*** at his own players on national TV. Thank goodness we have a guy like Coach Rodriguez who would never embarrass himself on national TV, and is upholding the fine football traditions of our Harvard of the Mitten State, our Mt. Olympus of 14 percent unemployment, the playground of Yost and Bo and the winningest best all-time greatest football program ever.
Nix on 4-5 years. We need to give this guy a job for life. If we don't, we are "pathological Michigan and Rodriguez haters." Facts, records, the actual way the game is played and public behavior are irrelevant. Anyone who says they are relevant is a "HATER." And even if we don't, could we please hire another failed Big East defensive coordinator? Defense is so Lloyd, so Bo, so beside the point. It's not like the best tackling club in the world, in the 1980's was Michigan, which often as not beat the shit out of Iowa and Iowa's winningest coach. It's only a matter of time before other Big Ten schools start playing flag football, too, and the conference coaching ranks are populated with Big East refugees who neither tackle, nor kick, nor cover passes, in year three of the most difficult rebuilding job in human history, nor score the most in these silly exercises called "games". Anyone who says otherwise is a "HATER."
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Looks like mgoblog really pissed him off...
With the pre-emptive banhammer.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Oct 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions
The last line is the best
There is no reason for Michigan to have had to rebuild.
Rich Rodriguez brought this all on himself.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
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I must’ve been hittig the Chex Mix when Rodriguez was cursing – what happened?
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
It was right before the half. I can’t remember precisely, but it was after they called a time out, then tried to high school Iowa offsides with a fake of a fake punt. They cut to a shot of RR on the sideline and he was letting it fly to Robinson like you wouldn’t believe. Coaching him up with a ton of fuck fuck fuck. I’d be so proud.
Oh yes
I forgot about that play.
Michigan lines up like they are going to punt. Iowa sits in 4-3.
Michigan moves up to go for it. Iowa’s linebackers “adjust” by taking one step forward each.
One coach playing checkers, one playing chess.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Oct 17, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I LOL'd at that sequence of events.
by the way, I’m pretty sure that KF and staff are playing three-dimensional chess, not just regular chess.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Oct 17, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
And the best part is...
(as TXHawkeye noted), Michigan took a timeout right before that, and that cute-sy bullcrap is the best they could come up with. Then, they had to take another timeout (their last one).
It was 4th down and 4 to go, and they were on Iowa’s 45 yard line, with 43 seconds left in the half. Unless you have a great offensive play that will get you 5 or more yards, you punt that damn ball. But Michigan needed two timeouts and 3 formations to figure that out.
Then, their punter bailed DickRod out by making a nice kick which was downed on the 1-yard line. Can you imagine the media-reaming Rodriguez might have got if that punt had backfired, or if he had gone for it and the play backfired? It might have lead to more Iowa points.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 17, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite part...
was, if you look, Clayborn completely relaxed and kneeling when they trying to draw the D-line off sides.
The only play call more stupid than that
is Texas lining up for a field goal, then pooch punting. How did that turn out for ya Mack Brown? Stupidest play call I can ever remember.
They won
that’s how it turned out
by 2BlocksFromKinnick on Oct 18, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
So true. I’d be embarrassed to have him as a coach when he is so clearly classless.
Also, Rec’d
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
Not only was RR shouting f-bombs just before the half...
but for the rest of the game, about every other time they had a camera on him, you could lip-read his swearing.
Once in awhile (maybe once or twice per year), you can lip-read Ferentz swearing at a ref when there has been a truly horrendous call. But you also see him encouraging his players about 5 times per game, just like when he was patting Johnson on the helmet after his 4th quarter pick.
We really are pretty lucky to have Ferentz. If anyone at Michigan knew what they were doing, they would have scraped together about $8 million per year in December of 2007 and brought in Ferentz. With Michigan’s recruiting capabilities, I’m not sure a Ferentz-led Michigan would have let OSU dominate the Big Ten over the last 2.5 years.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 17, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen Ferentz pull out a "bullshit" or two
when arguing with refs. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him drop the f-bomb though
Brunettes not fighter jets
Very true
And it is always directed at the refs – never his players
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Oct 17, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
The jaded types in AA
should consider this a must-read. The Big Ten deserves better than DickRod’s idiocy and narcissism.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Oct 17, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions
"Recommended."
I.e., thumbs-up, I liked this, good job!, good on ya, way to go champ!, etc, etc.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 17, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
It's what bounces your posts to the top
nearly everytime. In other words, you’re well thought of around here.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Oct 17, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Bellanca was playing Ferentz again.
I’m pretty sure Bellanca knows what “rec’d” means.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 17, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec = Jolly good show, old boy!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 19, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Fantastic, sir.
That was well worth the read!
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
I am glad I finished my Diet Coke...
before I read this, otherwise, it would have been all over the computer screen.
You are the man, Bellanca.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
Oh hell no.
KF: Mary Sue is a good president
Come on! She threw away cbrett42’s corn plant!
Damn you Mary Sue Coleman!
Hilarious
One of the best fan posts I’ve ever read. The KF is SO spot on.
Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!
Phenomenal
My moment of RichRod Zen came when he tried to decline a false start penalty. Dude’s a fucking clown.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 17, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions
That was amazing
For all my doubts about the guy’s system in the Big Ten, and the general baggage he brings and carries, a lot of what you see and hear is still often second-hand. That really brought it home.
In Norm we trust.
I looked at my girlfriend and said "What the fuck is he thinking?"
And she responded, “Only a moron would try to decline an automatic 5 yard penalty.”
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 18, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I might have to steal your girlfriend
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Oct 18, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and Bellanca
I laughed my ass off when I clicked the link and saw that you have -3 MGoPoints.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 17, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
People forget
In spite of the App St. loss, Michigan finished in the top 10 two straight years before the arrival of RichRod, and in the year prior to those two (2005) went into the Ohio State game with a mathematical shot at a Big Ten Championship (it would’ve required a win against OSU and a Michigan State win over a great Penn State team, but still, a mathematical shot).
Take a look at Lloyd Carr’s record against the three teams Michigan fans care most about (Notre Dame, MSU, OSU). I don’t know what it is and I’m not going to look it up, but I do know he was well over .500 against ND, dominated MSU, and was .500ish against OSU. RichRod is 2-6, with both of those wins coming against meh-at-best Notre Dame teams who were winning in the last two minutes of the games.
The contrast with Danny Hope is absolutely priceless.
This is RichRod’s fault.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
Yeah.
While Carr doesn’t exactly light the room on fire, I always thought he was a solid-to-good coach. Some people like to rag on his lone national title because it is his only one, or because it took some slightly sketchy clock officials in that Rose Bowl against Wash St. But, it is still one more national title than a lot of teams have, so props to him.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 17, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It was also one more than Bo
Lloyd isn’t remembered as fondly as he should be at Michigan only because of the App St loss and the way he struggled so much against OSU at the end of his career. That’s it..
In all of his 13 years at Michigan, he never was worse than 5-3 in Big Ten play, and won the league 5 times. I don’t know how many times in Big Ten history a team has gone over .500 in league play for 13 straight years, but I will say this: Woody never did, Paterno never did, Fry never did, Jim Tressel is still 8 years away (OSU went 4-4 in 2004), and Kirk Ferentz is still 11 years away. If that doesn’t show you just how consistently very good Michigan was under Carr, it should.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
Carr against MSU: 10-3
Against ND: 5-4
Against OSU: 6-7
Against PSU: 9-2
Against Wisco: 7-2
Against Iowa: 6-2
Bowl game record: 6-7 (I guess it’s asking too much of any OSU or UM coach to have a winning bowl record though)
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, they are usually playing in good bowls.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Oh, that would be a great excuse for them.
For many, many years, the mighty Wolverines and Buckeyes battled it out for supremacy and the right to play in the Rose Bowl. Then they lost in the Rose Bowl to an “underrated” Pac Ten team. During the ten year war, the record of the Big Ten in the Rose Bowl was 1-9.
Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden laugh at this. Bear Bryant would be laughing at this if he wasn’t dead.
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
Few Big Ten teams can claim to consistently win the Rose or other big-time bowls.
See OSU’s record in the national title games, or Iowa’s record in BCS bowls, and those are just the trends that jump to my mind.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 18, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Careful, he might pretend he knows.
by txhawkeye on Oct 19, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The thing with Lloyd Carr
He was a great recruiter, motivator, and big-picture game-planner.
But you could count on him to blow one game/year with poor in-game decisions or adjustments.
2003 against Iowa sticks out the most in my mind, for obvious reasons.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Oct 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
True enough.
On the other hand, the floor for his teams was pretty much 8-4 (aside from a 7-5 year in 2005); Michigan fans might do cartwheels if they got to 8-4 this year…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Somehow, I have trouble envisioning a Lloyd Carr or Bo team trying to tackle without using their arms, breaking down and squaring to the back, and driving the subject onto his butt.
Also, I never saw a Lloyd Carr team start walking off the field before the whistle blew. I never saw Lloyd Carr say F*** 500 times on national TV.
/head shake/
Must stop talking about Michigan.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
True
I forgot to mention talent developer (although a lot of that is likely on the assistants)
Lots of first round draft picks out of there.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Oct 19, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Spartan Here
Joined your blog just so I could say “bravo” on this post. Perfectly captures the beauty that has been the Rich Rod era. Having lived through our own John L Smith era of pass-wacky, undisciplined, no-tackle football (of course, John L was never hit with major NCAA violations), I can almost feel bad for Michigan fans. You know, if they weren’t such arrogant pricks.
Looking forward to the game in Iowa City in 2 weeks and keep up the good work.
I can’t, and won’t, feel sorry for them. Picking up an annual game with another team that plays similarly to MSU and Iowa, in Nebraska, is richly deserved. My fervent hope is they go 2-6 in conference this year.
2 seems optimistic right now
There’s no Northwestern or Minnesota. Penn State, as terrible as they were against Illinois, is a road game against a team that has beaten them senseless the last two years. Illinois will beat them; the Illinois defense matches up far better with the Michigan offense than vice versa. Illinois may not throw a pass all game long and probably won’t have to. Purdue is 2-0, and it’s a road game against a team Michigan lost to last year. The last two are Wisconsin and Ohio State, who are clearly better.
So there might be a random win in there somewhere, but right now, I wouldn’t pick Michigan against any individual team on their remaining schedule and feel good about it.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
Also, 1) Purdue seems to be improving despite massive injuries, and 2) Danny Hope is a decent coach
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
From what I’ve read on the Michigan sites to get a sense on what they thought of Iowa, the sentiment seems strong for Ws over PSU, Illini and OMHR, with little in the way of optimism on Wis and tOSU. We’ll see. My feeling is Purdue has a coaching advantage (Rambler beat me to it), the Zooker needs to continue to keep his mouth shut and let his assistants do their jobs, and I really, really hope Penn State rights the ship. I won’t think about MI after today, but want their season to go up in a big ball of suck.
As hard as this is to say
My gut feeling is that Michigan will beat Wisco. Majorly.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 18, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Maybe we watched different Wisconsin v Ohio State games. Because I don’t see that Wisco team losing to Michigan.
by HawkeyeInExile on Oct 18, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Concur.
If Wisconsin can run over Ohio State….
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Barring some wacky plague of injuries,
I don’t see Wisky winning by less than 10 points, even at the Big House.
I think Purdue will win, but it is a bit of a toss up. I’m actually less-confident in Illinois.
If PSU is as close to the edge as I think they are, and with a bye week to prepare, Michigan could win that (although PSU appears tougher, especially on D).
OSU should beat Michigan by at least 20 points.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 18, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not convinced that Illinois or Purdue beats them.
Purdue is 2-0, yes, but one of those wins came against the unquestioned worst team in the league and the other was against a jNW team prone to self-destruction (and with some glaring flaws). Kudos to them for scratching out wins in spite of the massive injury problems they’ve had, but I’m still not sure they’re that good right now. Illinois has a very solid defense, but the offense is prone to disappearing acts (not surprising, with a RS frosh at QB and a new system).
If our game against Michigan taught us anything, it’s that you need to be able to put up points to beat them — you can slow that offense down, but it’s difficult to completely keep under wraps. Sparty held them to 17 points, true, but that was with the aid of two interceptions in the end zone — you can’t expect that to happen every week. Can Illinois score 30+ on the road at the Big House? I’m not convinced of that.
I have no idea what to make of Penn State right now, but if their defense doesn’t get healed up and/or their offense doesn’t find a panacea, they’re going to have a whole mess of trouble beating Michigan, home field night game or not. The Penn State team that got wrecked (at home!) against Illinois would get wrecked by Michigan, unless Denard and Tate have utterly wretched games.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
There's a difference, though.
Rich Rod is an idiot asshole. John L was just fucking crazy.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Oct 18, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I always thought John L was just a very interesting guy, or at the very least crazy in a fun way.
He was just too emotional and it showed in his team.
Who's Danny Hope?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
never mind
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Wow Bellanca, your mgofeud is scary awesome.
Great as always.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 19, 2010 1:42 AM CDT reply actions

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