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Wha Happened? Week Six Around The Big Ten

This was an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.  Because the NCAA is stupid. (Photo by Leon Halip/Getty Images)

Wha Happened? is the weekly round-up of the rest of the games that were in the Big Ten -- you know, the ones that were going on while you were shotgunning that beer, or watching Iowa, or sleeping off that early-morning tailgating.  Who won?  Who lost?  Who made us quiver with fear?  Who made us laugh hysterically?  In short... Wha Happened?  Now with new-and-improved performance ranking system!

WIN
#17 MICHIGAN STATE 34, #18 MICHIGAN 17 (coverage)
Sparty picked up the only win by a Big Ten team over a ranked opponent yesterday and so they take "Win" honors for the second week in a row.  Indeed, it was Sparty's second-straight win over a ranked team, which gives them more wins over ranked opponents than anyone else in the league.  After being pegged as one of the trendiest dark horse challengers in the preseason, Michigan State's doing everything they can to live up to that billing and at this point you'd have to consider them one of the legitimate contenders to win the league -- especially since they skip out on Ohio State this year.  They essentially validated everything we'd been saying about them so far with their performance yesterday.  We said they had a balanced offense; they passed for 287 yards and ran for 249 yards.  We said they had a solid defense; they held Michigan to season lows in total offense (377 yards) and points (17).  We said they had good special teams; they didn't do anything exceptional, but Aaron Bates maintained a good average on his punts (45 ypk) and expertly flipped field position, while Dan Conroy converted all of his extra point and field goal attempts.  Sparty's looking very solid right now.

Meanwhile, we finally saw what happens when Michigan plays someone they can't just overpower in terms of raw talent (or at least just the presence of one Denard Robinson) and the answer was what we suspected: they struggle.  Denard was held to "just" 301 yards of total offense, but that's significant when he's such a massive part of the offense.  He got virtually no help from the running game (76 yards on 13 carries) and his receivers weren't sharp.  Throw in a trio of interceptions and a handful of other bad passes and it's hard not to conclude that at least some of the progress we saw from Robinson earlier in the season was the effect of playing frankly hideous pass defenses; against a  tough, physical defense that wasn't completely overwhelmed by Michigan's speed, they struggled mightily.  The Michigan defense was surprisingly stout in the early going (holding Sparty to zero points in the first quarter), but they quickly sprung some leaks (17 points in the second quarter) and seemed to get worn down as the second half progressed.  They are what we thought they were: pretty goddamn bad.

Star-divide

PLACE
ILLINOIS 33, PENN STATE 13
(coverage)
Halfway through the season, it might be time to re-evaluate some preseason beliefs, namely that Illinois was headed for yet another terrible season and that Penn State would simply reload and have yet another solid 8-10 win season.  Two weeks into the Big Ten slate, one of those teams might be headed to eight wins -- but it's probably not Penn State.  One of their problems is new (or at least an exacerbation of an older problem): their previously solid defense is devolving at an alarming rate, thanks mainly to a host of injuries.  I'll just let BSD lay out the grisly details

To recap just how bad the injuries are, the Penn State defense had to play the entire game without Jack Crawford, Mike Mauti, Gerald Hodges, and Bani Gbadyu due to injury. Sean Stanley and Derrick Thomas sat our their second straight game with suspensions. Additionally, Penn State lost Nick Sukay, Eric Latimore, Pete Massaro, and Andrew Dailey during the course of the game, with Sukay and Latimore going down in the first quarter and not returning. That, is a lot to overcome. By the end of the game I was scrambling to find a roster to figure out who these numbers were I hadn't seen all year.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.  There aren't many teams that have the depth to survive losses like that and as we found out yesterday -- Penn State isn't one of 'em.  But Penn State's other problems have been season-long issues, namely their atrocious red zone offense and their woeful offensive line.  Before Nathan Scheelhaase and Mikel LeShoure took over in the second half and pounded the game away behind Scheelhaase's 15/19 passing (151 yards, 1/0 TD/INT) and their combined 180 yards on the ground, it was a close game -- and Penn State had golden opportunities to blow the game open thanks to Illinois' problematic punt returns (two lost fumbles). Gifted great field position, Penn State's offense went nowhere and they again settled for field goals.  Meanwhile, the offensive line continued to suck, failing to open up any holes on the ground (65 yards on 26 carries) and not doing much to protect Bob Bolden, either.  They are awful; they're like the 2007 Iowa offensive line -- but worse (at least in terms of run blocking).

Meanwhile, we'd be pretty remiss if we didn't doff our caps to the Fightin' Zookers who followed up a moral victory against Ohio State with an actual victory this week.  Toss in their salty showing against Mizzou in the season opener and it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the Illini... don't suck.  I know, I know, it's hard to believe -- there's no J Leman out there and Zook is, indeed, still the man under the headset -- but, hey, results are results.  They're 3-2, their defense looks exponentially tougher than the tissue-soft outfits they rolled out the past few years, and the offense looks remarkably competent when they can establish a good ground game with LeShoure.  All of a sudden, a bowl game doesn't seem like such a far-fetched notion.  Then again, it's still Illinois and Zook's still there, so we'll be keeping a wary eye on them, waiting for the other shoe to drop.

SHOW
#2 OHIO STATE 38, INDIANA 10
(coverage)
What's more stunning: that Terrelle Pryor logged just three rushing attempts for -19 yards or that he went 24/30 for 334 yards and 3 touchdowns (with no interceptions)?  Wacky.  The evolution of Pryor-the-passer continues, although the fact that it happens against the dreadful Indiana defense should keep people from getting too out of hand.  If you wanted to quibble, you could knock Ohio State for going to sleep at halftime (they had a 35-0 lead and tacked on just a field goal in the second half), for getting penalized nine times for 105 yards, and for a fairly ho-hum day running the ball (130 yards and two scores on 32 carries), but hey: they choked the life out of Indiana's offense (210 yards, 3 interceptions) and they had the game well in hand after that 35-0 first half.  Their second half was barely different from Iowa's second half against Penn State a week ago; they may not do much for style points, but they get the job done.

#20 WISCONSIN 41, MINNESOTA 23 (coverage)
Yeah, yeah, Wisco manhandled the Gophers, dropped Tim Brewster to 0-10 in rivalry games, and kept Paul Bunyan's Axe for the seventh straight year.  They bounced back nicely after last week's disappointment against Michigan State and actually looked like the part of the Big Ten contender that they're meant to be, aside from a sluggish second quarter when they let the Gophers pull within five points.  Scott Tolzien was back to being quietly efficient (17/23, 223 yards, 1/0 TD/INT), while John Clay (21 carries, 111 yards, 3 TD) and Jason White (19 carries, 118 yards, 2 TD) were an unstoppable tag team on the ground.  That was all well and good.

No, the standout part of the game was unquestionably Conversiongate, or Bielema's decision to go for two after they scored late in the fourth quarter to push their lead to 41-16.  Bielema said that's just what the coaching card said to do; Brewster, uh, disagreed and after forcefully shaking Bielema's hand in the post-game handshake, had a few choice words for Bielema in his post-game presser.  Was it a dick move?  OF FUCKING COURSE IT WAS.  When you're up 25 with six minutes to go, it's hard to fathom a sound strategic reason for going for two.  Does that make it any less funny?  OF FUCKING COURSE NOT.  

just NORTHWESTERN 17, PURDUE 20 (coverage)
Filed under things which are not good ideas: playing a ton of close games when you have a shitty kicker.  Having danced far too close to the edge in many games this season (Vanderbilt, Minnesota, even Central Michigan to an extent), the "Cardiac Cats" finally flatlined against OUR MOST HATED RIVAL last night, thanks in part to a pair of missed kicks by Stefan Demos, best known for blowing kicks in the Outback Bowl last season.  Our friends at Sippin' on Purple are blaming penalties, an offensive gameplan that saw them run the ball 42 times (despite gaining just 84 yards) even though Persa again threw for 300+, penalties, and a defense that couldn't stop the run (OMHR gained 232 yards and two scores on 42 carries; especially impressive since Rob Henry was just 6/18 for 47 yards and an interception through the air).  The penalties don't seem that bad on the surface (8 for 60 yards), so I'll just trust that they came at some truly inopportune moments.  But ultimately maybe they were just due to lose a close game, especially since they haven't been winning all these close games with the benefit of a murderous defense (a la Iowa 2009 or Ohio State 2002).  And as far as OUR MOST HATED RIVAL goes... it's PURDUE HATE WEEK; do you think we're going to offer them too many kind words this week?  Hell no.  (But good job winning on the road even without your best offensive players.)

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This Penn State offensive line is incredibly frustrating.

Bellanca was right; they were never very physical to start with. But while they couldn’t run the ball very well, they still weren’t terrible. Pass blocking was one of the few things you could argue the team did exceptionally well. Then Eliades got injured at tackle, and it’s been downhill ever since. Of course, that still means the talent level isn’t that great. A new line staff is pretty much the only thing I’m excited for when it comes to the end of the Paterno era.

The defense didn’t look good and the coaching was bad (Just ask our radio guy, Jack Ham, who was apparently furious with the sitting back in cover 3), but I think injuries caused a lot of the problems yesterday. They looked worn out by the middle of the second quarter.

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 10, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and Illinois

Where did that come from? Why are they now a tough football team and why didn’t they hire those coordinators years ago? Combine Zook’s recruiting with guys who can actually coach and they might be in business.

Looking at their schedule, they’d have to totally explode to miss 6-6, and 8-4 isn’t out of the question.

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 10, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not only is 8-4 not out of the question, but Illinois may have a shot at 9 wins this year.

The only likely loss I could find was next week at Sparty. If they play like they did yesterday, they may finish the regular season on a 6-win streak.

by The Mexican't on Oct 10, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leadership is everything.

Zook is a dope, but the two coordinators know that if Illinois wins 8 or 9, they are head coaches.

What mystifies me is why and how Zook could recruit them. What did he promise them? Why would you take a job as co-pilot on a plane already in descent with two engines out. It’s impressive. Illinois is impressive. The Big Ten has not three, but five clubs in the top tier.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Oct 10, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paul Petrino was just looking for a place to call plays, I think. When your brother is one of those “offensive genius” head coaches, it’s hard to get the credit you may deserve as an OC.

by HawkeyedFrog on Oct 10, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it was the AD who recruited them.

Which, if true, wouldn’t make any more sense to me because many Illinois fans think he’s a monkey too.

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 10, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zook may have offered them more money than they were getting at their other jobs.

And Petrino was overshadowed by his brother Bobby at Arkansas; taking the OC job at Illinois was an opportunity to prove himself away from Bobby. Koenning was listed as Co-DC at Kansas State last year; maybe he wanted a chance to mold the defense on his own.

Illinois is off to a good start, but I think we still need to see them string together a few wins to conclusively prove that they’re an upper echelon team. We also need to see just how bad Penn State is in their current form.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 10, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Petrino and Koenning obviously have confidence in their own abilities. It’s not as though Ron Zook’s recruiting prowess is unknown around the country. Here are two guys who saw an opportunity to exploit talent and get their names out in arguably the highest-profile conference in the country. Do not be surprised if Petrino is gone after this season and Koenning is not far behind; there will be a slew of head-coaching vacancies around the country after this season.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Oct 10, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC, Sagarin has PSU at 66 and Minnesota at 135.

It may be arbitary, but I feel that if Penn State can’t win by at least ten or at least look relatively competent, blood is probably in the water. I know I can’t call Minnesota underrated if we struggle with them. I just can’t do that.

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 10, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota has been good for what ails a lot of teams this year.

If they can’t help PSU sort out some of its issue, it probably is time to hit the panic button in Happy Valley.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 10, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, Zook gave Ohio State some trouble too

They lost, but still. Maybe there is more there than I thought.

by Bridgeloan on Oct 10, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This isn't specifically to your post, but I'll tack my thoughts on here...

…the Fightin Zookers are benefitting from that old helper known as “nothinglefttolose.” Against OSU they looked pretty good because they were calling the strangest gameplan imaginable. OSU’s D-Co wasn’t able to gameplan or call plays appropriately because Illinois was playing like my friend plays NCAA 10 against me when I’m up by 40 points (chucking the ball around, running at the strangest times, FG fakes, everything but the kitchen sink, just to see if something works).
Zook knows he has to go balls to the wall this year if he wants to keep his job. The most dangerous and unpredictable type of dog is one with his back against the wall.
Zook isn’t trying to build a program, he’s trying to hang on year by year and game by game.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 11, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else see Indiana's TD late in the game?

The QB wanted to fake the hand off and run, but the RB grabbed the ball and ran into the endzone. The QB was trying to strip the ball from him the entire way. It was one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen.

by fugeeu on Oct 10, 2010 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

how about MN's blown PAT?

The holder fucking dropped the ball!! How symbolic of their season was that one play?!?

by imadirtyoldman on Oct 10, 2010 6:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've always wondered what ...

MSU would look like with proficient coaching.

Now I know. I’m impressed.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Oct 10, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm impressed with MSU

but I’m still not completely sold on Sparty.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 10, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Used to be you could just wait for Sparty to implode

I think those days are done.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Oct 10, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not expecting an implosion

but I see them dropping 2 games: Iowa and one other team to be named later (and that one will be close). They’ve been playing with a lot of emotion the past 2-3 weeks, a letdown seems likely in the near future. But this isn’t a team that’s going to go into a tailspin like the MSU teams of old (and not so old)

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 10, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

We’re thin up the middle: rb and mlb. We need ironman performance and luck to carry this through.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Oct 10, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we had to play MSU yesterday or even this week, I would be more concerned about the LB issue.

But Johnson and Tarp were expected to be healthy after the bye and if not then, certainly by the time of the MSU game.

RB will continue to be an issue, there’s no way around that.

I still think MSU’s secondary can be exploited; ND shredded them. Michigan was ill-equipped to do that.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 10, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, I'll bite

Notre Dame shredded us because of quantity, not quality. They had 369 passing yards, but it took them 55 attempts to get there. That’s 6.7 YPA — good, but not great. They only got a million yards because they threw on 70% of their offensive snaps, not because they kept on gashing MSU with big play after big play. Also, ND has flaws, obviously, but that’s a damned good passing offense. It’s not like Iowa doesn’t has bad receivers, but I don’t see anyone on your roster who scares me like Michael Floyd and Kyle Rudolph did. Except McNutt. Screw that guy.

The major problem for the MSU pass defense this season has been lack of a pass rush, not the secondary. Obviously, I’m not counting on the Iowa o-line being nearly as awful as they were against Arizona (I haven’t seen one of your games since then), but I do think we can do better than we did against ND, which has a decent, veteran o-line. Also, I think that the last two games—particularly Wisconsin—demonstrate that the MSU secondary has improved quite a bit since ND.

This isn’t to say that MSU doesn’t have vulnerabilities against the pass; they do. But if anyone is expecting the shittastic MSU pass defense of last season, you’re gonna be disappointed.

by LVS on Oct 11, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right, it is improved.

But it still seems like a weakness in the MSU defense, at least compared to the run defense. Iowa’s receivers may not have the lofty draft rankings of Floyd or Rudolph, but DJK, McNutt, and Reisner have proven to be pretty productive. And while the Iowa OL may lack experience, they’ve actually pass blocked quite well this year outside of the end of the Arizona game.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 11, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot the emerging Keenan Davis

There’s your draft stock. BTW, he needs a nickname. “KD” is off limits because it’s both boring and already taken by possibly the best basketball player alive

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 11, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I didn't.

I like Davis a lot, but from what we’ve seen he’s not playing much so long as McNutt and DJK remain healthy.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 11, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is too bad

From a pure, raw talent standpoint, Davis may be the best WR we have.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 11, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

But we’re probably going to have to wait until 2011 to see how good he can be.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 11, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

And don’t get me wrong, I’m not bad-mouthing DJK or McNutt, I love those guys and what they do. There just aren’t enough balls (hehehe) to go around.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 11, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's going to be another hard-fought

knockdown fight, much like last year. By the time the game rolls around, however, the fact that you haven’t had a bye yet may play a bigger factor than people are considering. As has been noted here and elsewhwere, the bye came along just in time for Iowa what with the injuries we’ve had (MLB and RB) that allows the MLBs to get healthy and for us to take the week rushing Coker and the Cambus up to speed on blitz pick-ups and blocking in general, which will allow them to get on the field a bit more to give Robinson a break. Certianly not claiming that this has fixed our problems, just that it’s made them a bit less glaring.

MSU, however, will not get that rest before you play us. And given that I, and I would think many fans of both sides, expect this to be a pretty brutal, hard-hitting affair, that could be a big issue in the game.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 11, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

Our bye isn’t until the week between the sixth and seventh games.

by LVS on Oct 11, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nit picking

Highlights show that OSU was up 31-0 in the first half and scored a TD in the 3rd to get to 38.

by The Mexican't on Oct 10, 2010 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

So is Minnesota at a theoretical 6-0

or did they drop the game this week and are sitting at a theoretical 5-1?

by Hank Thrasher on Oct 10, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn, they're theoretically good.

They should be in the theoretical top ten, don’t you think?

I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker

by hkobb7 on Oct 10, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

But Brewster would disagree with me.

by Hank Thrasher on Oct 10, 2010 5:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

But his disagreement would be purely hypothetical, of course.

1-5 surely isn’t enough to be in the top ten. No, Timmy, shut up, I’m trying to help your case. Jesus, fucking moron…./slams trunk lid on car down. Nitwit.

I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker

by hkobb7 on Oct 10, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I read that correctly

8 Big Ten teams will make bowl appearances with Iowa not being one of those 8 teams. Wow. Either they know something we don’t, or whoever wrote that is a complete fucking moron.

by Hank Thrasher on Oct 10, 2010 4:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, they are fucking morons

I just enjoy the punishment of reading it and then writing angry letters.

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by mikjones24 on Oct 10, 2010 4:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's the latter

I use to read that site fairly regularly (basically I had a lot of time on my hands and just wanted to read as much CFB stuff as I could). Once I actually started paying attention to the fact that they are all dolts over there, I haven’t been back since. That site is atrocious.

by Brock8144 on Oct 10, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pete Fiutak wrote me back

I was a complete dick in my letter but here was his response:

Our total gaffe … New Year’s Day. BTW, we just project, but we can’t make Iowa better for you.
 
Fiu
CFN

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by mikjones24 on Oct 10, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wanna find out where he lives with me? Let's firebomb his house.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 Kidding, kidding.

I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker

by hkobb7 on Oct 10, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why kid?

I’m all for it. I’m for kidnapping him and making him attend journalism school. AT IOWA NO LESS.

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by mikjones24 on Oct 10, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

LET'S DO IT!!!

THIS IS IOWA!!!!

I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker

by hkobb7 on Oct 10, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm they have Iowa playing Auburn in the Outback bowl

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by SpoWAHawk on Oct 11, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then it's been updated since the original.

Probably has something to do with the email that was sent by mikejones.

by The Mexican't on Oct 11, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

RAWR RAWR RAWR

UR SITE IS TERRIBLE RAWR RAWR RAWR.

Yeah, it’s been fixed since then.

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by mikjones24 on Oct 11, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Pitt is good enough to play in TWO games!

by imadirtyoldman on Oct 10, 2010 6:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do not doubt the powers of the Wannstache!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 10, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW, last week they had Iowa in the Orange Bowl.

I hate to guess along with the people who write there, but methinks they dropped Iowa from the BCS game and in their infinite wisdom, forgot to add them to the rest of the bowl game.

Or they thought we looked atrocious during the bye week and will go 1-6 down the stretch.

Hawkeye fan, born and bred. And when I die, a Hawkeye dead.

by bpriebe on Oct 10, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somehow they have tOSU winning the Big Ten

but not making the BCS championship game. I guess they figure MSU beats us and we beat tOSU? No way Nebraska jumps them if tOSU stays undefeated, I wouldn’t think.

Bah, why am I wasting time on this?

by Brock Sampson on Oct 12, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fun stat

Mark Dantonio and Rich Rodriguez have won the same number of Big Ten games in Ann Arbor

Es gibt keine Freude wie Schadenfreude

by Seer on Oct 10, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I liked this

ttp://www.michiganlastwon.com/

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Oct 10, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that ALL sports...

…or just football and apparently basketball (just mens?)?

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 11, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are other sports?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 11, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Football and men's basketball

They swept us in the hockey conference playoffs last year.

by SpartanDan on Oct 11, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So how many more weeks are we giving it

until the Blue fans are freaking out over DickRod again?

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.

by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Oct 10, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the bandwagon guys (I believe MSU fans call them "Walverines") are probably done already.

Although I’m sure many of the people from certain Michigan blogs will be at least be content to bask in their smugness after they beat Penn State.

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 10, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

When do you guys play them?

If your D can get semi-healthy by then, you might have enough to slow down Nard-dog, and I think even your offense can move it on them (I would hope, anyway).

by Brock8144 on Oct 11, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oct. 30th

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's worse than I thought.

We’ll probably be down one starting safety, two or maybe even three defensive ends, including guys with decent experience, probably one linebacker, and if there are any more injuries we’ll have no depth at all.

It was so bad, Mike wouldn’t even grade the defense.

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's absurd. 10 out of 11 defensive starters out?

At least Iowa’s Angry ____ Hating God is position-specific. Running back is an old standby and he’s added a colleague that hates middle linebackers this year. Angry Penn State Defender Hating God just seems like an indiscriminate asshole.

Best of luck getting getting some guys healed up and ready for Minnesota. No one should have to suffer the indignity of losing to the Gophers this year.

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by RossWB on Oct 11, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jack Crawford – starter, Pete Massaro – starter, Nick Sukay – starter, Mike Mauti – starter, Bani Gbadyu – starter, Eric Lattimore – starter (sorta). Granted, we had been moving guys around during games, but jeez. There’s a good chance that only two or three of those guys will be back.

"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's just brutal

Sorry buddy.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 11, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ech.

I don’t think any team could recover from losing that many projected starters. Are you guys considering having players play on both sides of the ball? Stop Sign and Banana Peel could be Ironmen!

Seriously… I hope you guys figure something out.

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Oct 11, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, one little victory (the true impressiveness of which has yet to be determined), and someone gets too big for his britches.

So I just got an email from my father-in-law, with the subject line “fyi, for no reason.”

Here’s all it said in the body of it:

Illinois is (38-29-2) against Iowa

Average score: Illinois 19.6 – Iowa 14.9

Per decade
                  W L T PFPG PAPG
  2000’s 2 5 0 14.4 22.4
  1990’s 4 6 0 27.0 24.9
  1980’s 5 3 0 19.6 17.3
  1970’s 4 4 0 22.6 10.3
  1960’s 1 2 0 11.3 32.0
  1950’s 3 0 0 31.3 11.0
  1940’s 8 2 0 20.2 9.5
  1930’s 0 1 1 0.0 9.5
  1920’s 5 3 1 13.1 6.2
  1910’s 2 0 0 14.0 3.5
  1900’s 4 2 0 28.3 6.2
  1890’s 0 1 0 0.0 58.0

(and then it lists the score of each game going back to fucking 1899, which I have omitted here because it’s way too long, and it’s totally meaningless/pointless).

Ugh. I hope Illinois just barely squeaks by to qualify for the Hardee’s Bowl or whatever the fuck just to stoke the flames of hope of the Illini faithful, only to have both Petrino and Koenning then get the fuck out to take HC jobs leaving the Zooker to twist in the wind, causing the Illini to revert to form.

by Bucketochicken on Oct 10, 2010 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

It's a shame we don't play Illinois until 2013.

And, amusingly, his stats only point out how bad things have gotten for Illinois in the past 30-40 years. Iowa leads the overall series in the last 40 years (18-15) and it’s even more lopsided in the last 20 years (11-6).

Great job kicking our tails in the ’40s, though.

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by RossWB on Oct 10, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah... that was my "huh?" moment too.

I think he was playing the Minnesota Card (i.e. what you do when you have nothing left to stand on except an all-time series record based largely on performances from before Walt Disney died) in an attempt to suggest that THE ILLINI ARE BACK BUTKIS GRANGE (inappropriate Indian war whoop) GEORGE WILLIAMS MENDENHALL or something. I dunno. Whatever. I think he’s had a burr under his saddle since I went off about Zook a year or so ago and was saying how awful a coach he is and that Illinois fans all got suckered when they hired him and that they absolutely have to fire him if they ever want a return to glory (such as it was). Plus he hates Iowa, so it probably stung even more coming from the Hawkeye that married his Illini daughter mmwwwahahahahahahahahahaha.

He’s a good guy, just passionate about his team.

by Bucketochicken on Oct 10, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He must have been insufferable in 2007.

Except, you know, when the worst Iowa team since 2000 actually beat the Fightin’ Juiceboxes.

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by RossWB on Oct 10, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, he was actually fairly well-tempered about it then, all things considered. Iowa beating them probably helped.

I think he (and a lot of other Illini fans) thought that season would automatically translate to their inevitable and long-overdue and rightful Return To Glory in the subsequent seasons. Which, because Zook is a terrible coach who does nothing to develop his players, never happened. And likely never will.

by Bucketochicken on Oct 10, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Illini can't be "back"

Because there were never there.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 11, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I'm reading these stat lines right...

Did we beat them in 1899 with a score of 58 to nothing? Thats kind of awesome if so.

by Argulor on Oct 10, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe they had a winning record against us in the '80s

I mean, they were semi-decent then, but not that good.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 11, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Was it a dick move?"

No love for Brew, but that was bullshit. Even more embarrassing when Bielema pulls out the “dog ate my homework” excuse.

by salparadise23 on Oct 11, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't exactly know how I'd react if a program pulled that on Iowa

But Bielema doesn’t deserve the criticism he’s taking for two two-point conversion. Tim Brewster put on quite the show for the cameras and media during the handshake and press conference. I suppose part of that was to deflect on how bad his team is this year and how woeful his overall tenure has been at Minnesota.

I’m tired of unwritten rules being placed in sports. If you don’t like them going for two, stop them when they go for it. Granted that football isn’t nearly as anal about unwritten rules like baseball is, but there’s nothing explicitly stated that you have to abide by some code, especially in a rivalry/trophy game, when or when not to go for two.

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by Twin Cities Hawk on Oct 11, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously Brewster is going to stick up for his team.

And Bielema has every right to attempt the 2-point conversion, but the criticism isn’t with the try, it’s that he’s feeding everyone a load of shit by saying “It’s what the card says.”

There’s no way a probability card recommends going for 2 when up by 25 in the 4th quarter. Had Bielema simply come out and said something along the lines of “Because I couldn’t go for three”, then he’d be fine. He’d still be a dickhead, but at least he’d be owning it.

by The Mexican't on Oct 11, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

"It’s what the card says."

Yes, that’s exactly what bothered me about it.

by salparadise23 on Oct 11, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, that was the only problem I had with it.

What card? Don’t be a pussy, Bret. Just say “because I wanted to metaphorically mist-fart in Brew’s big dumb face, and I figured the ‘Fuck You 2pt Conversion’ would be a fun way to do that.”
But yeah, otherwise I really have no problem with it. Don’t like it? Fuck you, play better and coach better.

Now, would I be pissed if it were my team on the receiving end of that? Of course. But even then, it’s a “fuck you, play better” situation.

by Bucketochicken on Oct 11, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could have said he wanted to practice it for future situations.

Or to get it on tape to give future opponents something to think about.

Those explanations would still be bullshit, but at least they’d be more plausible bullshit than “the card said so.”

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 11, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, gotcha

Makes sense, I guess.

"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."

by Twin Cities Hawk on Oct 11, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody know how many points Wisky has scored on The Brew?

Cause maybe BB was going for his 100th point (or something) against Brew, and he realised that this was his last shot at scoring before Brew becomes an assistant’s assistant (coffee boy) for some NFL team.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 11, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Way more than 100.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 11, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell, maybe BB just hates Brewster that much.

I know we all do. Well, actually, we love him, but our professions aren’t being disgraced by him either. Wow, that was awful sentence structure, but I’m not going to go back and fix it.

I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker

by hkobb7 on Oct 11, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

“…but our professions aren’t being disgraced by him either he isn’t disgracing our professions, either.”

I couldn’t keep looking at it.

I'm gonna give her my "D" face. Deeeee, deeee, deeee!
---Norm Parker

by hkobb7 on Oct 11, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, we call him whatever we want

but BB et al have to admit he is a colleague. That hurts.

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by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

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