Recruiting snobs list bigten worst conf. in this years class

by schawkeye on Jan 31, 2010 4:14 PM CST Comment 18 comments

Is it any wondering why I continue reading this trash... 4 out of 6 rated b10 the worst with regards to this years recruiting class... Really? I understand we have jNWU and whiners in Champlain but the worst conference? The one redeeming quality (not that we needed reassured) was they they reaffirmed clown U. will always be the losers they are.... They listed Gene C. as having assembled a great staff. Something impossible at clown U. And that Auburn has assembled best recruiting class as 2nd year coach.... http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1045779

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They're not saying it's the worst conference

They’re saying it had the worst recruiting of any of the major conferences. Which isn’t really unfair. Penn State’s class is great. Michigan’s is very good. OSU’s is good but disappointing for them (they really let a lot of the top talent in Ohio get away this year, which never happens). Iowa has a great class by their standards, but just pretty good by national standards (and, in their defense, it is sort of artificially limited because it’s a very small class). Everyone else is pretty underwhelming. That doesn’t mean the conference as a whole is terrible, it means that they, as a whole, had one bad year in recruiting. It also doesn’t mean they can’t do a great job developing that talent they get, it just means they’re not bringing in what appears to be great classes right now.

by NorseHawk on Jan 31, 2010 4:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Understand what it means but....

The big east had better? The ACC had better.? Heck top to bottom I am not certain the b12 was that much better.

I will give the almighty SEC top to bottom and perhaps pac10 but the big east give me a break..

by schawkeye on Jan 31, 2010 6:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Big East is probably a little worse I guess

Big 12 is way better (if only for Texas and OU) as is the ACC.

I dunno, I guess I don’t see why one small part of an article being critical of the Big Ten in the most minor way is worth getting bent out of shape over.

by NorseHawk on Jan 31, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There's no reason to get angry about what recruiting people say.

Mainly, because recruiting people are fundamentally flawed in the way they “evaluate” this stuff.

But also, our top teams went 4-0 in bowl games, so I enjoy taunting other conferences because we kicked their ass with slow white guys.

Penn State basketball

by ReadingRambler on Jan 31, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

We kicked their ass largely due to the efforts of a gigantic, fast black dude sooooo...

by NorseHawk on Jan 31, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Counterpoint: He plays for a Big Ten team so he can't be THAT fast, can he?

Penn State basketball

by ReadingRambler on Jan 31, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno, ask your punt team

by NorseHawk on Jan 31, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

I can't.

They’re all busy getting blocked and giving up huge returns.

Penn State basketball

by ReadingRambler on Jan 31, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OH SNAP

walked right into that one, RR. :)

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Feb 1, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Four Random Recruiting Thoughts

How many guys go from unknown to getting hyped just because Notre Dame or Florida is interested in them.?

I read somewhere that about half of any incoming class never makes it to the end of their eligibility. They quit, get kicked off the team, get injured and don’t return, and a few go pro early.

As much as I think the rankings are half guesswork anyway, when you see a list of the top 100 recruits on SI, and 19 of them have Florida after their name…. wow. You’d have to be a complete fuck up to fail with that list. How is the Zooker these days?

Those Tennessee Hostesses were friggin hot.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Jan 31, 2010 10:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Guys do tend to get a boost when they have offers from big time programs like that

However, almost no one being recruited by either of those schools really qualifies as an unknown. Generally they’re going to have a bunch of other really good offers.

by NorseHawk on Jan 31, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Many supposed 3 star guys get the nudge to 4 stars because UND or UF are courting them.

multiply that by 20 recruits and a school jumps from 45th place to 5th place real fast. Just once I would like to see Rivals go back 4 years later and see how their ranking translated to on-field production; however that doesn’t help them sell memberships to the premium boards.

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by Kluginator on Feb 3, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's 1/3 that don't make it to the end of their eligibility

I seem to recall reading that one of the first things Ferentz & co. tell new players on their first day is this number. “Look to your left, and your right… one of you three is not going to finish your career here.”

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Feb 1, 2010 8:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

One look at the NFL tells you that H.S. accolades

only go so far. The Pro Bowl is filled with players from D-IAA and D-II even. It is filled with players from outside BCS conferences. It is filled with guys who three star players out of H.S.

Where the rankings really cannot project are those positions that require lots of technical ability and those positions that require lots of size. So, positions like K, P, OL, DL, CB, and even TE are very hard to project and of course QB.

Certainly Ohio State and Penn State has put together good recruiting with good coaching. But outside of OSU I would have to say that no one else has leveraged a great recruiting advantage in the conference with any consistency.

"Gravity cannot be held responsible for Tiger's fall." -- Albert Einstein

by StoopsMyAss on Feb 1, 2010 6:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

OSU biggest advantage

is they are by far the biggest team, with a winning tradition, in a state with a lot of people. If you’re a great player growing up in Ohio, odds are you want to be a Buckeye. Offhand I can’t think of another team with that can say that. Maybe Tennessee. Maybe. And Cincy has been irrelevant for most of it’s existance. That may change but I doubt it.

Florida, Texas, Cal, Georgia, Alabama Michigan all have more than one big time program.

Iowa produces 10 – 12 BCS players a year. Even if they all went to IC, we would still need to go looking for 10 to 20 more every year. Thank god Hayden knew people in Texas.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Feb 1, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs