Mirror, Mirror on the Wall?
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 22, 2010 4:49 PM CST
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PrintIf you are a fan of 1960s B-level sci-fi movies then you might have seen this one---although, even within the movie B world it is a painfully bad film.
The plot goes something like this: a new planet is discovered in the Earth's orbit but on the exact opposite side of the sun. Naturally, two astronauts are sent to investigate the "other" Earth. The plot thickens when the astronauts awaken from their weeks long induced sleep required to survive the long voyage, and crash-land back on . . . Earth.
Or did they?
The pay off sucks unfortunately despite the astronauts indeed landing on another planet, one that is identical to Earth in every way but one---everything on this version of Earth is done backward or in reverse or some such shit. In the end the film misfires at its attempt to be, I guess, Star Trek meets The Twilight Zone. The film was released initially under two titles but eventually the more hyperliteral title won out, Journey to the Far Side of the Sun.
Living here in New York this season has been a bit like living through a pigskin version of this kitschy film. Watching the New York Jets season parallel to the Hawkeyes season has been weirdly, and B-levelly, a lesson in doppelgangers (which, by the way, was the other title for the film).
Okay, doppelganger might be stretching it. I mean, are the Hawkeyes and Jets truly mirror reflections of each other? Not really, no. At least not in the German literature sense of the term. But, in the Journey to the Far Side of the Sun sense of the term, maybe. Is Shonn Greene the "reverse" of Brandon Wegher? Two new guy running backs who come on late in key post-season games to give their team a remarkable lift. Is Mark Sanchez the reverse Ricky Stanzi? Both riddled with interceptions and awkward fumbles during the season that repeatedly placed their steller defense in dangerous situations?
Comparing the teams player-for-player or even unit-to-unit might be an exercise in tedium, but what about their respective fan bases? Both have fans who are annually guardedly optimistic but easily prone to bouts of pessimism. Both fan bases often lament the lack of a national respect.
Bottom line...are the Jets the closest pro version of the Hawkeyes there is?
Okay, prediction time. I see this Colts v. Jets game very much along the lines of the Orange Bowl. The Hawkeyes Jets are facing a team that appears to have an unstoppable offense, that relies on quick, light offensive linemen. A team that also has quick, light defensive linemen. Meanwhile, the Hawkeyes Jets rely on excellent defense and a power running game that is intended to wear down their opponent. The Jets, much like the Hawkeyes did, want the game to go four quarters, and if it it does their confidence grows enormously while the wear and tear of their running attack usually shows in the poor play of the opposing team. Rex Ryan has brainwashed this team to believe they are the '85 Bears but with better corner play. Their QB has become, finally, an obeying muse of their very capable but quirkily conservative offensive coordinator, Ken O'Keefe Brian Schottenheimer.
Jets win 19 - 17. Revis shuts down Wayne. No rushing attack for Colts. Jets eschew outside edge blitzes for up-the-middle bull rushes that throw off Peyton Manning. Mark Sanchez completes a long pass to Edwards early that leads to a Shonn Greene touchdown run and inexplicably puts the Colts in a catch-up frame of mind whereby they curiously forget about the run, only to wish later that they had not passed the ball 49 times. Rex Ryan cries in a post game interview.
Saints win 34 - 17. Superdome turns into the Pamplona Bull Run with 13 seconds still left in the game.
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If Indy is GT
will their three best players all declare for the CFL immediately after the game?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
I don't know
I’m not sure that Indy fans refer to Caldwell as “Coach Jim Caldwell” or “CJC”, nor is constantly called a genius. Plus, he was an Iowa player (and coach I believe, GA)
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Sir!
Are you implying that Zombie Nightmare , starring Adam West, is a “bad movie”!?! Explain yourself!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 22, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
One of my favorites.
“I could have worked with Nicholson!”
by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
You're scaring me, bro
the more people who expect us to win, the more I know we can’t. That’s what being a Jets fan does to you: you expect failure when morale is high, and success only when it can’t get any worse. We suck.
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Well in that case
Wayne Chrebet is expected to start on Sunday…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 22, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Well just jump on the bandwagon
Go Colts!!!
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
You're back?
PSUdevon to the _iowa_hawkeye: “…there’s no doubting who the better team is. Why do people doubt Penn State so much? Outside of at Iowa at Ohio State and at USC, we simply blew out every other team we played. Iowa next year isn’t much better than Michigan State last year. When we blow you out, and we will, I hope you’re man enough to eat your words.”
-PSUdevon “Plow Horses – The Case Against Penn State”
http://www.rivalryesq.com/2009/6/8/902506/plow-horses-the-case-against-penn
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 23, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I'm okay with Mr. Devon
he got religion in the Hawks.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 23, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not
Not until he lives up to his own words and is “man enough to eat his words.” I’ve tried to contacted him through his own blog and he blew me off. I haven’t seen him around for some time untill now. So I’m giving him his chance.
Before the season last year we had an extended conversation on how Penn State was going to be in the NC picture in 09, and how PSU was going to “blow out” Iowa in a revenge match. And he couldn’t be more sanctimoneous about it all.
Then, when that never happened, he all of a sudden disapeared. Time for him to live up to what he expected ME to do and start chewing on those words.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 23, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Tried that already - he ignored them
So I brought it back to where it started: on the SB blogs.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 23, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Take it from me. Don't go there, PSU fans are a protected species on BHGP.
"I was late for some things as a kid, but I was never late for Iowa public television broadcasts of Iowa wrestling." Tom Brands
Look, asshole, that's not the case.
Your rants were both unprovoked and unnecessary. You joined BHGP two weeks ago and have been nothing but a smart ass since you arrived. If you want to act like an idiot from HawkeyeReport, then, please, go to HawkeyeReport. Quit acting like a kid who’s had his lollipop taken away, and grow the fuck up.
by The Mexican't on Jan 23, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
For what it's worth...
I read his comment as being tongue-in-cheek and I thought it was funny.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Jan 23, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
(this one about the protected species, I mean; not the original one--that one sucked dog dick)
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Jan 23, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
This is a Hawkeye blog...
…it doesn’t appear that anyone here owes you anything.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 23, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously, cut it out.
Nobody cares that someone made a homeriffic prediction that was wrong. Get that? NOBODY CARES. Take it somewhere else. We make the rules here, not you.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Jan 23, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA SHOULD BE BURNED TO THE GROUND!!
VENGEANCE!!!
BLLLEEEAAARRGRGRGRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MORE ZAZZ! I DEMAND MORE ZAZZ!
by Bucketochicken on Jan 24, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Will it be harder or easier to beat PSU on a field of ashes, though?
Or maybe just no difference?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Remember....the Colts are planning to rest Painter in this game.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
A fact that, by itself
Swings the Vegas line 50 points.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I could be Kiper or McShay because I don't know shit either
Looking forward to Jets, Colts & Vikings only because of the Hawk angle.
Kudos to Shonn Greene, the star RB of this year’s rookie class.
I was reading a Broncos blog the other day (I think it was the main Denver Post beat wri ter douchebag) basically he lamented the mediocre stats that Knowshon Moreno put up this year and compared it to the breakthrough that Shonn Greene has had. Greene posted 500 plus yards in the half season he actually saw the field compared to Noshon getting a season’s worth of carries.
In postseason play, Greene is the best rookie RB since Watergate, if only he did the Icky Shuffle maybe he would get noticed. Instead the MSM is focused on the heady play of a mediorce rookie QB with a USC pedigree.
Add the stupidness of Mark Ingram winning this years Heisman with lesser stats than those posted by Greene the year before and you have a complete sham. Hoping Greene can at least for brief window in time put up some monster post season numbers.
If you don't count President's Day, Spring Break, Easter, the 4th of July, its only like 2 months to the start of College Football Season. ... Jerry Seinfeld
by Reggie Roby's Wrist Watch on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM CST reply actions
Here in NY
Shonn Greene is about to become “the” biggest selling jersey number. Fans absolutely love him. Way more than Sanchez, who they just want to play well. They see him as a west coaster and they see Greene as a local.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
that's not quite true
We love our Greene, but most people see him as secondary to Thomas Jones, even with the playoff outburst. He doesn’t get anywhere near the love as Sanchez, at least not from casual Jets fans. The diehards kinda hate Sanchez, at least now.
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by Devon Edwards on Jan 22, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
secondary?
While Jones may not be dead yet it is commonly believed among many that his days are numbered. Greene’s post season play has just shortened TJ’s funeral parade.
"I was late for some things as a kid, but I was never late for Iowa public television broadcasts of Iowa wrestling." Tom Brands
On WFAN Shonn Greene is spoken of as
the greatest draft steal of the 20th and 21st century. In fact, all week they questioned any Jet coach, player or exec as to why Greene did NOT get the ball on the 4th down play in SD game. They seemed outraged that Jones was even considered. “If he didn’t make that you guys would have hell to pay” was one comment today. Welcome to NY talk radio.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 22, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
what?
Mike Francesa hasn’t said a single good word about the Jets all month, it’s actually sickening. I haven’t heard that one, yet.
NittanyWhiteOut.com. Arguably the second best Penn State blog I know of.
by Devon Edwards on Jan 22, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
He waxed poetic all day about Greene as the best running back
in the draft, a potential superstar running back. Yeah, he has been real tough on Rex though. And any guy who talks too much, like Scott. He love Revis too.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
ESPN Radio's Mike Greenberg and Jason Smith
both huge J-E-T-S fans, haven’t shut up about Greene for a month. C’mon, his name is “Greene” and he plays for the Jets. Plus, he’s not colorblind, isn’t 3 years past his prime or an injury-riddled-marginally-talented-but-tries-really-hard-white-guy (see: Wayne Chrebet), so what’s not to love?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 23, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
he does love Revis
but I’ve listened from time to time and heard him say the most outrageous things—the Jets defense is average, they had ZERO chance to beat Indy if Manning stayed in—he’s just doing it to piss of Jets fans, but do you think the #1 show in Indy is trashing the Colts?
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by Devon Edwards on Jan 23, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
It's true he's been a prick for some reason about the Jets
he claims it is because they loudmouth. Well, the Jets have been ludmouthing forever.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
Yeah, BUT, BUT...
Knowshown jumped over a guy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Yur-46blE
That makes him, like, GREAT! Right?
It is well known
that you can post that anywhere because last year ESPN showed us time and again that it was the single greatest moment in the history of mankind. Hell, re-post it after this comment.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 23, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Huh. Apparently I was exiled from the sports world when that happened.
I just saw that highlight for the first time today. Cool, but still… I’d rather keep my legs on the ground and steamroll over that dude… a la Shonn Greene. Yes?
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 23, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Wait
you’d rather a running back emulate Jim Brown instead of Mikhail Baryshnikov?!? What kind of a man are you…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 23, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
I had to google Mikhail Baryshnikov.
That should answer your question.
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 23, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
SMA - What is...
…NY talk radio saying about Greene. If you just google the news rags, and listen to the national media there is barely a blurb about Greene. The Jets run is attributable to…
a) Rex Ryan’s magic
b) Jets stellar defense (Shut down corner guy)
c) luck of Colts sitting down in week 15
I watched both playoff games, if Greene doesn’t pop either one of those runs, maybe they don’t beat the Bengals, and they definately don’t beat he Chargers.
Can’t wait to buy my kid a Jets 23, to go with his Colts 21 and Vikings 52
If you don't count President's Day, Spring Break, Easter, the 4th of July, its only like 2 months to the start of College Football Season. ... Jerry Seinfeld
by Reggie Roby's Wrist Watch on Jan 22, 2010 8:14 PM CST reply actions
Bad Feeling...
That my Packers 74 will be obsolete.
by KenOKeefeIfuckinghateyou on Jan 22, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Dolphins 4 Baby
Reggie Roby – Best Hawkeye ever, may you RIP.
If you don't count President's Day, Spring Break, Easter, the 4th of July, its only like 2 months to the start of College Football Season. ... Jerry Seinfeld
by Reggie Roby's Wrist Watch on Jan 22, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Wow.
Screen Name WINNAH!!
MORE ZAZZ! I DEMAND MORE ZAZZ!
by Bucketochicken on Jan 23, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
Greene is a forgotten man, but he’s my next jersey, after maybe Harris or Leonhard.
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by Devon Edwards on Jan 22, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone in NYC is like "Shonn Greene...Holy Shit!"
when the talk to me, knowing I’m Johnny Hawkeye, and I’m like “Yeah, man. I told you.” Guys are saying “If Greene goes over 100, Jets are gonna win.” Where have I heard that before?
by RodgersHasAHose on Jan 22, 2010 8:30 PM CST reply actions
I remember watching him almost singlehandedly destroy Wisconsin.
Everyone who doubted him should be directed to the game. I know Wisconsin wasn’t very good, but…still.
by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
His draft position was entirely based on his 40 time and
that he did poorly in receiving drills. There are only about 7 teams that he would be effective like this in. Jets, Ravens, Pitt, you get the picture. In NY he only needs to run the damn ball, and we all know he can run the damn ball.
As for his place in NY landscape, he has already been anointed the starter at RB next year by the talking heads on radio. NY is nothing if not quick to catch a fad. Although, he’s no fad.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 22, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
My guess is pro bowl next year
If he stays healthy and runs the way we all know he can pro bowl easily.
"I believe I have the total package of speed, strength, and explosion," Adrian F@#kin Clayborn
by DportROTCHawki on Jan 22, 2010 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
Unlikely
Odds are the Jets bring Jones back next year, and Washington should be healthy. Combine that with the fact that you’d hope Sanchez doesn’t suck and you run the ball even less, well, Greene will probably get 15 touches a game, which will be fine, and he’ll get 4.5, 5 yards a carry, but that’s not enough for the Pro Bowl, not in a conference with MJD, and Chris Johnson, to name a few, and not when he’ll just be part of a 3-headed monster on his own team.
He’ll probably be like a smaller Brandon Jacobs—who, in 2008, rushed 16 times a game for 1000 yards and a ton of TDs, 5 YPC, and wasn’t a pro bowler.
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by Devon Edwards on Jan 23, 2010 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
And that's weird
because everything I hear from the national media is saying TJ’s on the wrong side of 30 and that his greatest fault is waiting too long to bloom as an NFL back. Granted, this is coming from the talking heads at ESPN Radio, but they’re pretty NYC-centric.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 23, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure about that
the general feeling from NY is that he’ll get re-upped, that even though he’s aging, there’s still plenty of tread left on those tires. I’d be shocked if TJ is not a Jet in 2010.
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by Devon Edwards on Jan 23, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
If I recall he even caught a couple short passes against SD, it looks like he has been working on the receiving skills.
"I was late for some things as a kid, but I was never late for Iowa public television broadcasts of Iowa wrestling." Tom Brands
I love shonne greene and if they werent playing the colts but come on here
quoting a stampedebluer..
Peyton Has Already Spent More Time in the Dark Room than Rex Ryan does in the buffet line at Golden Corral.
peyton manning in on a mission as are the colts. everybody thinks this is going to be a close jets win that doesnt respect the colts
I just think this game could be the very opposite but I dont want to be cocky or jinx them.
peyton manning will be the mvp of this game too! rex ryan may be savvy and good but the colts are not going to look past this team like the chargers. the colts have something to prove after giving them the game to get in. i have a feeling wayne upstarts revis and the OTHER HAWKEYE dallas clark has a huge huge day!!!!!!!!
Certainly they should win and Vegas believes they are going to win
but I can assure you that whoever Revis covers will be totally irrelevant. There has not be a cornerback like him since Darrell Greene, and I think revis is better than him. Peyton will not make the same mistake Rivers made and test him. It is just suicide. At this point Revis is so good he baits QBs to throw his way. So, for the Colts to win they are going to have to go to Clark A LOT and run the ball. If the Jets take away the run and Wayne…you are left with Clark and two in experienced receivers who have to have the games of their lives.
I only see the Colts winning if they can get some 5 yard runs on first and second down…say 90 yard rushing or so. If not, they they must win this game with defense. As good as Peyton is, he cannot win this game by himself. He needs the Colt defense to get short field, get Sanchez to make dumb mistakes…and that is very conceivable.
I think the game goes as Sanchez and the Jet running game goes. I think the Jet defense shuts down the Colts to the tune of 20 points max. But we will see. (Just look at this box score to see how good the Jet D is on the road against a high flying passing attack..in fact, this is how the Colts have to play this game. Notice the defensive TD.)
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 23, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
I think your points about Revis would be true if
Manning threw downfield. But they don’t and they’ll stay underneath him. PM is averaging 7 ypa.
I think the keys to this game are two: 1) can the Jets get pressure on Manning (for a top defense, the Jets don’t sack); if not, Manning dinks them to death. Indy can’t run and won’t. 2) Does Sanchez revert to his season mean (i.e., screw up 3 times)?
I just never understood why Greene fell so far. I hope he can stay healthy long enough to get a second contract. I read the stuff about his supposed speed deficiency, but I recall very clearly that after he concussed the free safeties last year, he outran the corners. Kinda like he did against SD last week. Maybe he scored 9 on the Wonderlic. I just never got it. All you had to do was watch the game film: he was faster than the DBs.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Colts are 24th against the rush
so if they play to thier average they could be seeing very little of the ball. That is a big “if” and Sanchez is unreliable. But, if he plays within himself…
As for Revis, he shuts down long and short passing. He’s a freak. The stats of receivers he covers are abysmal. He even shuts down slant passes. He freaks out QBs, they think he is everywhere. Colts have to win without Wayne. IMO.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
the Jets don't get many sacks
but they get tons of pressure. I’ve seen more rushed throws and throw-aways and ill-advised passes against the Jets this year than I’ve ever seen in my life—it’s because when we blitz, we tell you, it’s not a defensive end or rush LB sneaking around the edge, but even when we tell you, our cover corners are so good, you can’t throw quickly into it, like most teams try and do.
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by Devon Edwards on Jan 23, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
There's only one way the Jets win...
…and I’ve been a Colts fan for longer than most of you have been alive, in case you want my bone fides on this:
1. Get great pressure rushing only four.
2. Force Peyton to throw into coverage by dropping seven, and someone “Ty Law’s” him all day.
That’s it. That’s the only way. Peyton completes about 70% of his passes against the blitz, some of which go for TD’s, so to my mind that’s a losing strategy. The Colts can run just enough to make you respect that, and make play-action work. The Colts defense is better than you think (#3 in scoring defense, IIRC), and their DE’s will give Sanchez fits, and O-linemen untimely holding penalties.
Every team like the Jets has their implosion game at some point, and I think this is theirs. I think the Colts win this one big, perhaps even breaking 40 points. I just don’t know that a rookie QB can lead the Jets to a win over a team like Indy, and I think Peyton is poised to have “one of those games” where everything he throws goes for a TD.
Unless the Jets D can get real pass-rushing pressure with only 3-4 rushers—if so, all bets are off.
"If you want to become a man--come to Iowa"--All American IOWA LB PAT ANGERER, whose best friend is a dog.
So the Jets, who have given up 75 points total in the last 8 games
are going to give up 40 today? Okay, I’m due back on the planet earth now.
I can easily see the Jets losing. But not because of Peyton running up and down the field. It will happen because the Colt defense stops the Jet running game in the first half, and the Colts find a way to get up by 14 points to put the game in Sanchez’s hands. And even then, I doubt the Jets will throw it much. I can almost guarantee you that Sanchez will not throw more than 25 times. I do think, however, they will throw deep more. I also think the Colts would be playing right into the Jets hands if Peyton came out winging it on every play. That is a recipe for disaster. They need to be balanced.
As for the Jets rushing attack…the big expectation here in Jet land is that unlike in nearly all previous games the Jets have played, they are going to blitz up the middle and the D-line is going to spin out to contain Manning who can’t run worth a shit. That way they close the viewing lanes and Peytan cannot step up as usual. It will either be brilliant or they will get swing passed to death.
Don’t kid yourself into believing that this is going to be a blowout. That sounds like Yellow Jacket talk.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 23, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, and the line is Indy -4.5
The Jets have lost by 5 points or fewer in every game this year, except the New Orleans game and the NE game. In the Saints game they dominated but Sanchez threw a 99 yard interception for a touchdown, a full-on 14 point swing (they lost by 14) and Sanchez fumbled to set up another Saint score. In the New England loss they had 5 turnovers, ALL by Sanchez and lost by 17.
If the Jets have one or fewer turnovers the Colts might be in trouble.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 23, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed, the Jets have everything except
a QB you can trust.
As a casual Jet observer I couldn’t figure out how they lost so many games, given they possess the #1 rush O and #1 defense. I guess, Sanchez’ play?
Mr. Boh Knows ...
"a casual Jet observer"
AKA a plane-spotter. Ugh, I’m so sorry.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 23, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sanchez at one point this year was nothing short
of a disaster. He was averaging almost four turnovers a game, by himself. He was Ricky Stanzi in the Indiana game, without the back to back 70+ yard touchdowns. Over and over again.
I personally think the Colts are going to focus on knocking his fucking block off the whole game. He is weak minded too. He is too emotional at this stage and can be taken out of his rather mediocre game very easily. If the Colts play soft tomorrow though, they are risking a loss. They need to be ready for a street fight.
Rex has not fared well against Peyton, but he never had anyone like Revis.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
Additionally, the wrong Hawkeye
may be getting all the attention for this game. The Jets, even in victory, haven’t done the greatest job against opposing tight ends this season (Gates, Gonzales, Clark in limited action). Dallas Clark will either have a field day or the Jets will expend so much energy and attention on him that Manning will find holes in their defense.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 23, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Still
I can’t help but see similarities in this Jets team and the ‘05 Steelers…other than that the Jets’ QB didn’t have his last college loss come at the hands of the Iowa Hawkeyes.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 23, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I see Greene having a good game, but
The Colts will win the game. Wayne only played half a game and had 33 yards. The Colts started to click when they pulled the starters. 7 of the Jets 10 points before Peyton left were from a kick return. you cannot rely on a kick return to score points. The Colts D is underrated. I think Sanchez cannot make a mistake (and that will be hard if Freeney and Mathis get a few hits in). The Colts D is considered one of if not the fastest defense in the league (which allows for gang tackles – which we all know that it takes at least three mortals to tackle Shonn Greene). If Colts get up early, it could be a blow out.
But what I think it comes down to is Peyton Manning. He is like an offensive Norm Parker. He got to see the Jets going all out for a half (and the Colts wre pretty vanilla). He now knows what they want to do and he will find a weakness and exploit it).
I’m guessing Colts 27-10 (Greene gets about 120 yards and a TD)
I made sure that this post was not like it was written by someone from GT
Pie graphs and “stats” proving that they were gonna beat our ass. Seems like Jets fans are using them a lot this week. As a Bears fan, I have seen the Colts just go out and win everytime they have tried this year. Peyton Manning is like a combination of Stanzi, clayborn, Angerer and Sash. He is gonna make a play and it will win the game (for Iowa, you never knew who was gonna do it, you know its Peyton for the Colts).
Unless if the Jets go the route of jNU and hurt Peyton. Even still, I am rooting for the winner of this game in the Super Bowl.
Good luck to all former Hawks!
The Jets just don't get blown out.
They may lose by 10 but I cannot imagine them losing by more than 10 points. The Colts should win, I just don’t know that they will win. And the Jets are a whole different animal than they were going into that regular season game. They were a mess psychologically then, they are so right now.
It’s up to Sanchez to hit his passes when they are there. He needs to eat it and not panick. He is prone to do that. But if he stays within himself and the game plan certainly will be vanilla with some more Wildcat tomorrow, the Jets will be there waiting for that pick, fumble, miracle, that they seem to be getting.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
Every year, it seems there's a Cinderella team in college or the NFL.....
…..who captures the imagination. Every year, there’s a dominant team that does the same.
And every year, that Cinderella eventually gets woodshedded by the dominant team at some point. Now, maybe iI’m wrong and the Jets D will stifle and frustrate Peyton and such—if so, the Colts may very well lose this game. I’m not saying that not’s possible, because it IS.
On the other hand, I have this feeling that this is going to be one of those Cinderella vs Godzilla games where everything goes wrong for the Lady and Godzilla destroys Tokyo. Don’t know why I have this feeling, but i do. I’ve seen the Colts do this to good teams multiple times over the years—meaning being up 28-7 at half—and somehow I see that happening today.
Maybe i’m way off and the Jets D will be big trouble for the Colts, and Sanchez will be “on” and Shon will run crazy. I wouldn’t even mind that as much as you might think—I really LIKE this Jets team! But I think the Colts are for real this year and are going to put up some points today.
If not, I will come back and admit that I am an idiot on such things.
"If you want to become a man--come to Iowa" All American IOWA LB PAT ANGERER, whose best friend is a dog.
by The Director on Jan 24, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
I hear ya
I am just going off the trends. The Colts, since week 8 of the season have won by 4, 3, 1*, 2*, 8*, 10, 12, 4, L*, L, 17*.
The (*) means the opponent finished with a winning record, (L) means the Colts lost the game.
I don’t think this Colts team has done a lot of domination. They have also done poorly against the rush (remeber that Miami game on Monday night when the Dolphins ran for like 700 yards and controlled the ball for 47 minutes, but lost). My sense of this game is that the Jets are in the best minset possible and I can’t get a read on the Colts. Will their banged up secondary allow Sanchez to complete important passes? Will their front seven overwhelm the Jets O-line?
I think this is a fascinating game becuase you have the best QB in the league (IMO) having to prove himself against the best defense, one that is exceptionally good at stopping….everything. Good luck.
FYI…I don’t have a dog in this fight. I live in NYC, but I am a Rams fan. Yuck.
"Last year we just self-destructed ... We had possessions [this game]. We just couldn’t get anything going." Paul Johnson on Georgia Tech's loss to Iowa in the Orange Bowl.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 24, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
I remember that movie
God I’m old. Nice piece dude.
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by Leftcoast Hawk on Jan 23, 2010 11:47 PM CST reply actions
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